House of the Dragon | S1 EP4: Inside the Episode (HBO)
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- čas přidán 10. 09. 2022
- Ryan Condal, director Clare Kilner, Emily Carey (Alicent Hightower) and more hone in on the motivation behind Daemon’s advances towards Rhaenyra, approaching intimate scenes, and the fractures in Rhaenyra and Alicent's friendship.
Daemon was unbanished for a whole half episode before being banished again lmao
lmao my man daemon is so mess up
Lol
Poor guy can't catch a break lmao
Baneeeeesh 😂
He so extra ngl but that's why GRRM love this character 🤣🤣 #Daemonforlife
Daemon was unprepared for Rhaenyra's reaction. He didn't expect her to want him too and that freaked him out. His, "I will take Rhaenyra for wife" speech to Viserys was sincere. He really does want to do things right, but all Viserys sees is Daemon's ambition. And that kid was Mysaria's spy, not Otto's. Mysaria's pissed that Daemon's trading her in.
You had got it right
And about the spy kid it's in the books?
Daemon was such an idiot this episode, like did he actually think that would work ?
I agree.
I’m sorry but i just can’t root for a love story between an uncle and niece lol. I know it’s common in universe and in their line, but it’s just bleh lmao. Actually think she has better chemistry with her knight.
"Young women want sex as much as young men" thank you, you've done a brilliant job conveing that message. a message so important. this was one of the most astonishing displays of young female sexuality ever. everything in this episode was directed brilliantly, but that part stood out. as a male, this was so refreshing to see, not because of naked bodies but because it is a complete new perspective, and because we can see a real learning curve compared to most of GoTs sex scenes.
Its about incest and groping in a whore house. That's a horrible representation of sexuality.
Couldn't agree more
Totally agree. I think because* there was a female director on this, which I've noticed makes a wonderful difference for these types of scenes. It's not that men can't portray female sexuality, I just think female directors tend to do an AMAZING job of it.
Writers are doing a master job with Alicent Hightower. They took an “evil queen” from the books and keep adding layers and layers. Very interesting character to watch
What are you talking about? She's not evil at all, she just has her own agenda like almost all the other characters, I on the contrary don't like the way the showrunners made her an unwilling victim.
@@benji285 I feel like older Alicent is going to have the hard edge which she only cares about her children (because that's all she has)
I think if Alicent finds out about Rhaynera and Christon, she will stop backing Rhaenyra as heir. It would be an interesting take if she backed her son because she could no longer see Rhaynera as honest or chaste and therefore an unfit queen, especially as she swore on her dead mother she was a virgin.
Christon will go to Alicent because he felt manipulated by Rhaynera, and also thinks she's not fit to take the role of queen.
Rather than just being a bitch, it's because she fears what else Rhaynera could lie about. But with some corruption from her father as well, giving her a bit of a scheming edge.
Yes! At first episodes she seems passive, but we can see her unhappiness and therefore anger growing. Also she's quite smart and can get along with different people so she's going to hit hard
@@benji285 personally yes I do not think alicent Hightower was “evil queen” but literally %99 of the fandom sees her that way so I’m glad show putting extra work to show Alicent just doing what she have to do from the beginning.
Sapochnik's interpretation that Daemon's impotence is due to guilt makes more sense to me than the idea that it was due to a loss of control. Because ultimately he was still pretty in control, and he was getting what he ostensibly wanted. I think the guilt angle is also more interesting in terms of portraying his character as being very morally questionable but not 100% bad.
I think she meant losing control in a sense of letting daemons hunger for power take over his (family) love for Rhaenyra
She was off base. I fear the direction this show will take in future seasons without Sapochnik
Agreed.
Seriously. I was so confused, people actually thought he acted like that out of “loss of control” 💀
was he unable tho"? i thought it meant he just wanted to play with her feels and bailed???
I left this episode with a changed perception of both Rhaenyra & Alicent. There is no purely good or purely bad, each character has flaws & strengths & I think this episode highlights them all brilliantly. The young women portraying them are fantastic!
alicent 100% bad
@Our Watch Never Ends yes, cuz the book is the perspective of an outsider, who wouldn't normally know any inside details about the royal family, he only reports events as seen by the public.
I would think 8 seasons of Thrones have taught you that already that this is precisely the point of the show besides political schemes.
@@SRKanaticTube in the books she doesn’t have a personality that’s how history writes woman put in her position just watch the same thing to happen to cersei,daenerys etc
so far, Alicent's been shown as just the dutiful daughter and kinda sympathetic...but, Rhaenyra's just shown to be this young girl eager to grow up and explore more of life's pleasures...something that's denied to Alicent.
The fact that the interactions between rhynera and daemon were filmed in such a “female gaze” way is so amazing and really appreciated
I love how Daemon's character is a constant class between his love for his family and his own ambitions. We've seen plenty of times throughout these episodes how he loves and cares for the family, but he will still act on his ambitions, ambitions which hurt his family. He rejoices at the death of Viserys' son, Baelon, because it ensures that he'd remain the heir, yet we saw him sincerely empathize with Viserys and Rhaenyra at the funeral after the deaths of Aemma and Baelon. He tries to "sully" Rhaenyra by sleeping with her (which puts her in an extremely bad position within this society) so that he can marry her and get closer to the throne; yet during the bridge scene in episode two, we saw that he isn't even willing to fight/kill her for the throne because he cares for her. Perhaps for Daemon, to some extent, ambition is the death of love.
Or love the death of ambition, is what i think we keep seeing for Daemon ultimately. He's always foiled by love for his family in the end, not the other way around, because deep down he doesn't really want the throne, he wants Viserys' approval and he cares for Rhaenyra
"She comes home and Criston Cole seems to be the nearest person available" LMFAO
😵💫😂
such an interesting exploration on this episode, seeing the contrast of sexuality for rhaenerya and Alicent was both haunting and fascinating, the image of a decaying body lusting over you is nightmarish, but seeing the princess get her desire fulfilled made me happy for her, daemon still very layered and I love it
And how a woman's pleasure is seen as unimportant and even politically destabilizing--I agree, such an interesting story.
@@kayladugger7042 yeah this is really sad and disappointing perpetuation of the patriachy which is clearly basic and crass and heartless.
@@kayladugger7042 and the friendship of the girls broken
It was interesting to discover after episode 4 that real reason Uncle Daemon renegged on screwing Rhanyera. Most don't even realize the ONLY reason Daemon changed his mind on taking Rhanyera's *Virtue* is because her arousal for him made it impossible for him to get an erection because he doesn't believe that sex is something a woman should truly enjoy or atleast that's what one of the show's writers said behind the scenes
And yet Rhaenyra did it in such a way that she actually made Cole break his oaths and honor. He didn't want to do it but felt forced to because of the power imbalance. So even though she was getting her desire fulfilled, she also was the perpetrator of abuse on Cole.
i noticed that the sex scenes were different from usual , they didn’t look like they came out from a porno, but were more sensual and less graphic. now i understand the reason. having a female director really makes a difference
She did good work up until her interpretations of Daemon lost the erection because he could not control her. BS.
@@errrzarrr she's obviously playing the "woman is victim that the man wants to control." She forgot to note that Rhaenyra used her power to control Cole to bed her.
Interesting idea but i think we have seen men direct gentle sex scenes before. It depends on what the objective is
I loved the scene between Alicent and Rhaenyra seemingly reconciling. It was genuine and you can feel they have missed each other's friendship.
i love that scene. esp leading to next episode, make me more interested to see how betrayed alicent will feel when she knows Rhaenyra got her father fired as hand.
@@raemontargaryen3005 even though rhaynera told the truth about Otto and the king actually listened to her instead of daemon she was right and visery’s could see it to the long game Otto was playing. Granted it only pushes Otto to do stupid things like setting of the war but still.
@@Mcherri Rhaenyra got Otto fired by viserys also pushes the believe that Alicent is only a “chess piece” for Otto. which i dont think Alicent will take it lightly since they were bonding over how difficult being in the position is. the drama just got a little more spicier. 🔥🔥🔥
It's unfortunate that the rekindle of their friendship won't last.
@@raemontargaryen3005 I wouldn't necessarily say Rhaenyra is wrong for that because Alicent was in fact a chess piece orchestrated by her father in his desire for more power.
Rhaenyra being the reason why Otto was removed as Hand though? It will definitely ruin the friendship they were slowly trying to rebuild because although Alicent doesn't have the best relationship with her father, he's the only family she has and like Alicent said to Rhaenyra she has very few friends left and without her father she'll feel even more alone and isolated than she was before.
now i understand why i feel so excited watching scenes between rhaenyra with daemon and criston. it was a female gaze. thats why i feel excited rather than disgusted or as if im watching porn. i also really liked how the show potrays the sex life differences between alicent and rhaenyra, this is very well made. and i love the way each actors have enough time on screen for us to really see all the emotions and changes in their voices, facial expressions etc.
Oh lucky you. You go girl.
Same I was thinking "don't get horny don't get horny.. Ahh shit" the whole time 🤣
Wtf it was incest between a niece and her uncle. 🤣😂 And Daemon's supposed to be like 20 years older than her.
@@jodomo4279 Daemon is like around a decade older than her.
@@jodomo4279 So what? It was the same for Daenerys / Jon Snow. Let the conventions go for the show. As long as it's between consenting adults, people are allowed to enjoy it. Consent is a tricky thing though, especially when it comes to power imbalance. Rhaenyra has power over Cole and Viserys over Alicent. Can they say no? Alicent sure didn't seem to have any kind of agency. In contrast Daemon / Rhaenyra seems to be the most balanced even though it didn't happen. Daemon did manipulate Rhaenyra by making it public but he bailed and she isn't exactly that naive or submissive as clearly shown. They are quite suited for each other.
No wonder the acting is so good. They're all defending their own characters
Rhaenara’s actor is like “Why am I fucking my uncle, tho?”
@@Garl_Vinland Insane that the uncle-niece relationship is one of the least incestuous Targaryen relationships
Thought so from the first 1-2 episodes, but now I’m sold. The casting of this series has been impeccable. Top to bottom. The world building of this period in Westeros through only 4 episodes is impressive. Even the characters with little screen time or dialogue make an impression- Ser Harwin Breakbones, the Lannister twins, the other representatives of houses that’ve made brief appearances- all top notch.
VERY well said. I couldn't agree more. There's SO MUCH breadth to this series. Its even better than I thought it would be.
Yeah, the acting conveys a lot of things very subtlely. That especially goes for Harwin and Larys.
I don't buy Matt Smith as a warrior prince, sorry. Not one bit.
you left out the mvp, willem blackwood lol
Well, GRRMartin is involved with he casting, so. In GoT, he was involved in casting for 3 seasons, that's why the original cast were impeccable
Milly and Emily will soon be out of the show but they'll rule the world after it. Great GREAT performers
You should check out "upright" written by and starring Tim Minchin. Milly's first starring role a bittersweet drama that really shows her range.
@@MrRenbeer I've seen it a few months ago. She's great there too. Can't wait for season 2 to come out!
Such a well written episode! Also, Emily Carey is making Alicent Hightower more than just a pawn in the Game of Thrones now! Alicent Hightower is going to emerge well, Rhaenyra Targaryen will make herself more than just a trophy to win, and I know Emily and Milly will conquer their roles next week💚➕🖤👑
what website do u stream on
@@sportspicks5060 HBO Max
And it will be Emily and Millys last episode as well
@@brandonmunro1332 I know. It’s bittersweet but I know Milly and Emily will give us a great send off
@@brendonsmith3080 i think it was a mistake getting new actresses
Milly's commentary is gold here 😂
even hbo cannot control her narrative. #queen
She is so real!!
See, I was actually wondering why I found the brothel scene so enticing and honestly hot?? But it makes perfect sense now knowing a woman directed it. Like it really felt like Daemon awakened something in Rhaenyra in that moment and honestly I could not help but be pulled into it, despite you know... The incest of it all.
agree, that scene spoke to me more as a women than any normal sex scene in movies and shows, even undressing the knight was hot, even tho it was layer upon layer of armor, her playfulness was refreshing too.
@@LolixBelle I thought undressing Criston was EXTRA hot because it was so many layers of armor tbh! Kind of the medieval version of the appeal of suits and uniforms
@@pridemoth_ oh my god yeah I thought that was amazing, and the slowness of it all
@@pridemoth_ they had plenty of time to stop, but I guess he wanted it as much too, it was a great scene
@@LolixBelle Sounds like good way to lose everything he had if not his head along with them.
The way that they build the character of rhanerya is brillant and represent so many teenagers real life who can't stand that life about politics and duty. The sex scenes from the female director was really good. And the fact they talk about control. It’s well done !
The part where Rheanyra was taking of Christen Cole's armour was really sensual, honestly the sexiest part of the whole episode
I’m really glad it was a female director because you can really tell how she wanted to portray a genuinely romantic sex scene in contrast to GOT who had mostly male directors and it was mostly lust, boobs and sadly a lot of violence and brutality.
So I’m glad they changed the pace.
@@raniaminhas3406 To me the scenes were really great, but I dont think that GOT sex scenes were bad, tere r some scenes which r pretty romantic like the ones w Jon and Ygritte were Jon is basically, same as Thaenyra here discovering its sexuality...
And ab GOTs violence and brutality... Well thats just how the world works, specially in ASOIAF universe
@@lilypond5158 it was rapey and uncomfortable to me. Daemon and Rhaenyra got me hot and bothered, but she unleashed her dragon on a helpless dude and it shriveled me lol. I felt bad for him, she's clearly attractive and an object of his desire, but she also gave him everything he has with a simple sentence and can take it away just as quickly. He gave in, but besmirched the honor of the cloak he held in such high regard all of his life. His "post-nut clarity" shows his regret towards caving into her seduction.
@@raniaminhas3406 first time in the series I truly felt the sensuality in those scenes. Beautifully directed
"Over the centuries, House Targaryen has produced both great men and monsters. Prince Daemon was both. In his day there was not a man so admired, so beloved, and so reviled in all Westeros. He was made of light and darkness in equal parts. To some he was a hero, to others the blackest of villains."
there is a duality to Daemon Targaryen and you can see that in his relationships with his brother and Rhaenyra... he clearly loves them and wants their attention but he is also destructive in how he hurts Viserys and tries to corrupt Rhaenyra
I really wanted to see Matt Smith in this interview ,listening his perspective of Daemon's actions and conflict.
About his impotence? Lol
Me, too. I guess they try to hide Daemons deeper emotions and thoughts to keep him mysterious. It works😅
@@yohanespaskal9352 now u and him have something in common, dunno why u lol
@@sillylittlesheepjax6009 hmmm about that, you should asked your mom when I visited her yesterday
@@yohanespaskal9352 well why not? Because the last thing I thought watching the episode was that he was literally impotent. Like more just about he still had guilt and he wasn't sure of wanting to do that to Rhaenyra anymore and that is why he rejected her when she tried to kiss him,but not that the guilt was that "physical". Also his plan,what was really his plan?like he really thought Viserys would see him a his only option to marry Rhaneyra when he is already married?? How he was sure that Viserys would not disherit Rhaenyra after the scandal and chosing Aegon or something.
This episode showed different kinds of "action" than the previous one but it's equally as captivating. Very well written. 👏
and insanely well directed
I would say equally boring
@@computerjantje different ppl like different things, we like good dialogue and character and world building but I guess you like fire and stuff
I’m gonna miss Milly and Emily when they do the big time jump to the older versions of Rhaenyra and Alicent. They have both been amazing!
Only one more episode left with her 😔
@@kira-zk6op wait whaaaat?!?!
Thanks..?? this is kinda spoiler-ish damn...
@@draakjuh nah was well known in advance
@@JulesD92 Just because many people knew the spoiler doesn't make it less of a spoiler
Loved the performance by Emily Carey on this episode. She was really good. Allicent without her father's influence could become a good queen.
i don't know what's the point of her confronting just like that? and rhany kinda lied as well. not cool.
@@lyrilljackson I believe she confronted her as a friend. Noble Ladies in that society are not expected to loose their virginity before marriage. Consequences of it is severe. She was disappointed at her friend's foolishness. She is also a mother now, so she showed a bit of motherly concern too. Which made Rhaenyra lie, like all children lie to their mother.
But I think she mostly cared about how it might make an effect on the realm and her own childrens. Specially if Viserys dies and Daemon gets the power through Rhaenyra. That thought scared her a lot.
@@rafayetrahmanratul1059 but why? so if daemon doesn't do this stunt rhae wil still be queen? so if he did fuck her it doesn't mean he will be king. not sure how you reason this out
Lol are you sure?
@@rafayetrahmanratul1059 I feel like these are one of the few times in the show where it probably would've been better if they kept the age Alicent was in the books because her scolding Rhaenyra would like more motherly if Alicent looked older.
I'm so glad the writers take this course instead following straightforwardly to the novella. Alicent is a much layered character here, and we would easily sympathized with her. the one most resembles it's novella's counterpart must be Daemon, he's as chaotic and yet still a likeable character
Most of the characters were barely characters at all in F&B, except for Daemon and Rhaenyra, so yeah, the writers and actors are to be commended.
@@lordmelvin9310 yeah exactly it was all written from the maesters' pov so it didn't explain the characters on a personal level.
I’m loving how they’re fleshing out the story especially this being the episode where Rhaenyra is given the ultimatum by her father.
Emily and Milly both owned this episode, Rhys owned the few seconds when his character was dismissed. I also love how it shows the dark side of Daemon and Rhaenyra’s “relationship” from a non “how romantic” view and show it as weird.
The fact thay i could immediately feel that the scene was written/directed by a woman was amazing, perfectly portrayed ✨✨🙌
Same! I knew something was different & now I know why. Very interesting isn’t it?
@@missmac564 Its the small desitions that make the difference ✨ kudos to the director of the scenes 🙌🔥
The female gaze! I knew it as well immediately!
EXACTLY 🤸♀️ The female gaze was really there. Even in GOT the sexy scenes were just for the morbo, but in this episode the director made an excellent job with the vibes, feelings of Rhaenyra and Alicent
Same I honestly thought 'wow finally the directors are making it sensual instead of graphic". The fact it was a female director now makes more sense.
The commentary for this episode is amazing and I loved how everything was shot, the care they put into it. I'm so glad the director for this one was a woman!
I think Daemon taught Rhaenyra a lot in this episode. He taught her how to find out what the people believe when they think royalty is not around. He taught how to get away from the Ivory Towers that can be very much a prison as it is a home. And most importantly, he taught her how to get it in 🤪🤪🤪. Viserys finally woke up with Otto. And that guy will still be a problem.
I honestly thought 'wow finally the directors are making it sensual instead of graphic". The fact it was a female director now makes more sense.
This episode focused on person relationships, It was well put together
I love the balance between good sides and evil sides of each character ,none of them is perfect nor purely evil ,and alicent becoming more reall and not just the evil queen is my fav change so far
Now I know why the love scenes were so dignified. A woman directed it. So good. Kilner killed it🔥
4:05 “he knows his hand being corrupted” while showing his actual hand slowly rot. love these methapors and analogy.
To see a spark of friendship again between Rhaenyra and Alicent makes me so happy
Lol, you're not ready at all for what's gonna happen. 😂
A bit more dramatic way for Otto to get the boot as Hand than in the book; in the book he just won't shut up about having Aegon becoming heir to the throne until Viserys finally fires him and replaces him with Lyonel Strong, saying, "This Hand will not hector me."
That's hilarious
Will Strong become the King’s Hand on the show as well?
It's a great change and really adds depth to all of the characters. Viserys is much more dynamic than he was in F&B.
@@MADGUNSMONSTER to me he seems to be a good choice, based on previous episodes. Maybe he is more careful with his games, maybe he is somewhat less ambitious than Otto, not sure
I doubt most casual viewers are gonna care, but revealing that Strong becomes the next Hand is a mild spoiler. Let's be cool to those who haven't read F&B.
The insight we get from these videos from the directors and show runners is awesome! I love this show so much, IT ACTUALLY HURTS! This show is amazing and literally single handedly saved the Thrones FANDOM!
Hahahaha I like how they worded it.
“wel criston cole was there so yeah she was like better than nothing”
😂😂😂😂
The lack of romantically between Criston and Rhaenrya shocks me as in the novels it was described so differently. Like she actually did feel for him. And here they made it seem like she was so turned on by her uncle that she just needed to get it out of her system after he left her wanting
Well I think she did quite like him, and certainly was enamored by him. And considering she is a teenager and just got introduced to the concept of sex as pleasure it was sort of just a perfect timing of having Cole there
Cant take the book for truth as its told by a maester and a court jester. Neither one is right or wrong
@@mrgermanvono35 I mean. I read the books but it was described as romantic. However, now I can kind of guess where the fall out between cole and Rhaenrya will begin.
Hahahaha but again they could have made more romantic not right after Daemon left her there. Because it doesn’t seem like she actually chose cole. It looked exactly like they said. He was the second opinion available.
I’m a bit disappointed course of the scene they kind of missed the opportunity In episode 3 to give us more heart left between the two.
I’m actually excited to see what happens next. The wedding previews look so messy.
@@UmbreonDarkness69 yep but If they have no a very good chemistry between them , the twist with Ser Criston Cole make actually no sense at all.
The hate of Criston for her and for Deamon after this is not the hate of a simple friend with benefits.
Romantically between Criston? Do you mean when her stepmom making gossip about 12 yo girl "Ser Criston protect princess from everyone, who protect her from Ser Criston" lmao
I loved everything about tonight's episode. This show just gets better and better.
This show keeps getting better and better with each episode. I always enjoy the insights of inside the episode. Bah bye Otto.🐉🐉
Agreed🔥🔥🔥
he gone for goud?
@@brysonfreeman7226 thanks 🙏
He’ll be back fool
nah, he's the OG littlefinger
It is fantastic to see such passionate and talented individuals are running the show. Makes me very excited for upcoming episodes.
Loved the scene where he takes the role of the Hand from Hightower. GoT and HoT D are usually death and gore, but sometimes you work for a whole lifetime and it ends with a whisper, not a bang.
The character development in this show is remarkably good and it feels so real portrayed by these fabulous actors.
Incredibly well written and superbly acted episode. Loved it
This show is so good.
I really enjoyed episode 4! 👍 Congratulations to the whole team for delivering it. Basically actors were amazing in their roles and every scene had me engaged. 🖤❤
Viserys was the MVP of this episode. I never really cared or even disliked him in the book. He was just one of those characters that were just there. But the portrayal in the show is beyond phenomenal. This episode truly showed what it means to be a king and a father. This was some Jaehaerys type action.
Best episode of the season so far definitely. It was also really good directed
I thought Daemon genuinely felt guilty in that moment with Rhaenyra and he just couldn't go through with it.
I think he felt both guilty and freaked out by how into it Rheanyra was lol
@@lilypond5158 This. Rhaenyra has both the Targ incest gene and an attraction to Daemon as well, which he wasn’t expecting. Her receptiveness to both him and sex freaked Daemon out, because he was intending to use it as a kind of power move to compromise Rhaenyra, he did not expect her to want it.
The episode keep getting deeper and more complex as they go on. So much better than i expected over all with house of the dragon.
IMO this episode was 10/10. Very very good
This episode was nuts, but oh so gooooooooooood!
Great episode. Lot of character development.
"It's not my daughter that you lust for, it's my throne" ✨reminder✨
I thought he misunderstood Daemon pretty sure he wasn’t power hungry when he was with Rhaenyra
I'm conflicted about this. I haven't read the books so I'm not too sure but many said they liked each other quite a lot. This seemed different to that account
@@lorey6252 I felt during that scene Daemon intended to have sex with her and take her virtue, only to realise Rhaenyra was receptive and desired him in return and this then made it, so Daemon couldn’t bring himself to take her virtue in response, so out of guilt he bails, offering the next day to marry her. I assume that’s why he doesn’t even try to deny sleeping with Rhaenyra, saying what does it matter. And I think he did so because he wants her for a wife.
@@temptationofmemories do you think so? I'd hope that's the case but I can't really see through the cold character building. He didn't seem caring at all this episode but was in the first 3, they've definitely left it open for interpretation. The intimate scene was meant to be intense because it is abuse but then leaving her there, just conflicting actions for someone that cares
@@lorey6252 Truthfully, I’m not sure. That’s what it seemed like to me from his expression and then the offer the next day, but I could be wrong of course. Perhaps he thought if he compromised Rhaenyra that she’d have to be wed to him?
I loved this episode so much, esp how the director being so careful and thoughtful with the sex scene was amazing to watch. Outstanding performances from all the actors as well, esp the nuances between the characters, also fantastic script. Just wonderful storytelling and artistry on all levels.
Best episode BY FAR, so dense and tons of character conversation
Totally agree. I wasn’t a fan of the show so far tbh but really enjoyed this episode’s writing.
Probably the best Episode to date. Loved every minute of it !
Love every episode so far keep up the good work best series on tv.
Best episode of the season so far, I think. Good on the writers and director for that!
Best episode yet
Fantastic, brilliant episode. You guys are doing god's work with this season! Please keep it up!!
I think both losing control and guilt drove Daemon to stop...the way he looks a Rhaenyra when she tries to kiss him, it's in complete shock hahaha
Every time Daemon and Viserys are on the screen together, it’s special..
I liked seeing the dynamics between Rhaenyra & Criston. It's one of the things I've been looking forward to since the beginning. Now that it has begun I can't wait to see what exactly happened between these two.
Rhaenyra abusing her power like that was definitely pretty chilling to see.
The Blackwood boy at the beginning of the episode must be Benjicot's father, if not Benjicot himself aged for the show. By showing him facing an older man they wanted to demonstrate that despite his age he is brave and skilled in arms. Also, in the books there is a mention of a duel between a Blackwood and a Bracken for Rhaenyra's hand. The attention to detail is astonishing.
The show is wonderful, we wish Sunday was the next day! 👏👏
BEST EPISODE SO FAR!!!!
What!?? Omg cant belive how Many people loved this one. Ir Is clear that sex sells.
@@LuiggiVampa That’s a really immature way to go about it. This episode had phenomenal dialogue, fantastic acting and overall great character development. This episode was a pivotal moment for the episodes to come.
To suggest that the sex in the show is what makes the episode so popular is just immature and shows a real lack of understanding of great story telling.
@@Calactic people Is saying this was the best episode so far. This Is the dance of dragons not the dance under the sheets. We have 10 episodes till 2024. This was a waste of show Time for the ones that want to sere the Targaryen civil war. Sorry uf i dont consider every thing as a Marvel of art.
@@LuiggiVampa I’m not sure if you’ve read the books or not but, The Targaryen civil war has already started (although not peaked). What I mean by that is the internal conflict brewing. This episode was a great build up leading up to the peak of the civil war. The dance of dragons doesn’t specifically refer to the actual dragons, but the Targaryens themselves (blood of the dragon and all that). If all you want to see is dragons vs dragons then you aren’t going to be satisfied with the show for a short while yet.
@@LuiggiVampa dale hermano, también te ví en el video de EvilSmile, déjalo ya
This explains so much why the sex scenes felt so unique and well directed.
Such a good episode. Im so proud of Condal and Sapochnik.
This is my Favorite Show Right now Period
This show is so good! Love it!
So we are actually given 2 different views on what happened with Daemon @2:11 - Miguel and Clare provide these 2 angles that make up the interpretation of Daemon's character. These perspectives are important because it develops the character's depth which I believe Daemon is suppose to have. Daemon loves his family above anything else, and yet feels scorned so he creates these machinations. Daemon, however capable he is, seems to be his own worst 'road block' as his emotions that he didn't count on get in the way. Clare mentioned the power shift, and realizing he has nothing - this seems like 2 different specific outcomes from the scene. Miguel sheds some light on this further where he mentions Daemon's emotions get in the way - he was their to may be steal Rhaenyra, tarnish her name effectively getting back at Viserys, or that she was actually into it much more than he thought which stoked his emotions further because she is truly the one person he wants (this could be the power shift Clare is mentioning but there is more depth than simple power dynamic here. Not that he needs to be in control, but that his plans have disintegrated because they are now both in the throws of passion, "equaling the playing field", and the purpose he started with isn't something he wants anymore - you could say Rhaenyra brings him out of his dark place with his brother), but realized too late that what he was doing was wrong, and the damage is now done with the rumors. Its another gray area when he asks for Rhaenyra's hand as this was may be his intention all along, but now the motive has changed; he truly wanted her. I think bottom line is Daemon is upset with his brother, and attempts to get back at him putting Rhaenyra in the cross fire (immature nature on Daemon's part, but hey, realistic character flaw). When Daemon realizes that he's actually hurting someone he loves (Rhaenyra) he beats himself up for it - this could also be a form of self hatred that we see where he never denies the allegations brought up to him throughout the series as he thinks people have already made up their mind about him so why should he try. That and he's royalty who thinks it shouldn't matter - yet he seems to care about the lower born people. Complicated dude.
What a great great episode !!! I never think that i could enjoy a show more thé GOT but here we are…
GOT was inbelivable. House of the dragon is perfection to me…
One of the best episodes so far...
i love the fact that just when you think you're completely rooting for daemon from his victory over crabfeeder, they hit you with this episode of showing him essentially corrupting rhaenyra, in a brothel no less. she consented sure, but if you needed more proof that daemon is still an unapologetic ass, here is the cherry on top. super strong episode. everyone involved is so very well written and very well acted.
What does this say about Rhaenyra lol?. How easily persuaded she is by her emotions?.
@@thespy6707
it's not her emotions. they've always kind of been like kindred spirits. both chaotic targaryens. you're not meant to look at these characters like they're pure good or pure evil. any normal person would be grossed out obviously, but they're targs and they just had that special thing between them. the chemistry is real and despite daemon being a jackhole, he does seem genuinely fond of her. and rhaenyra is probably the only person who actually gets him.
@@maggyfrog But it was indeed her emotions leading her lol. I’m sorry but this is all incredibly boring. I really do not care about rhaenyra’s stuff.. so far atleast. But 4 episodes in, it’s kinda repetitive.. atleast on her and her fathers stances. She does something dumb, he gets mad and they kinda but not really argue about it. Deamon himself was banned, unbanned and rebanished all in like 2 episodes lol.
I like the show but the only one hooking me is deamon. I know GOT was different but I think it’s biggest favor was having multiple perspectives that felt a decent division. I found one kinda boring, I was luckily around many others. Here it’s just 3 and they’re incredibly connected and May aswell be one. One is boring, the other is okay and deamon is carrying lol.
Not to sound like I’m trashing the show, just would prefer alittle pick up.
@@thespy6707
meh, either you get that these are setup episodes or you don't. all in all, it'd be terrible if every episode is trying to "subvert your expectations" the way d&d ended GoT.
@@maggyfrog Game of thrones had set up too. Basically all s1 was but idk.. a murder mystery with already multiple followed perspectives other than Ned was what was smart.
In this case it’s just a smaller focus with smaller characters. In my case, I only find one of the three really engaging.
Excellent episode 👏 👌
Best episode so far? No CGI/action spetical, just good drama. I'm glad to see they're mixing it up like that.
Daemon's plan backfired.. Rhaenyra becomes grey character, meanwhile Alicent is the real victim of her father ambition
Oh the same old,
Men are bad and women are
Victims? Lmaooo.
@@salaahkhayr2398 what does that have to do with men? If Alicent mother was alive & decided to push her into such a marriage for own ambition Alicent would’ve still be a victim of her parents
@@bimblaq Seems like a pretty good deal for a woman in the GOT universe. She’s the Queen (arguably the second most powerful person if you know how influence your husband).
@@bimblaq well that’s the point. It’s an script. And it’s scripted this way. Most of the bad guys are men.
@@salaahkhayr2398 that is debatable😅 weren’t Cersei & Daenerys seen as “bad” by some people
That Criston Cole 😍😍😍🔥🔥🔥 Awesome episode though. I love these slow burns.
House of the Dragon is delivering and surpassing any and all expectations I had - this episode in particular was a real standout for me. I absolutely love that HotD is giving me something totally new and exciting with all the feels I had watching this episode, that I had not yet felt when watching a episode from the GoT universe so far. It really felt like being in a teenage dream, seeing new experiences through Rhaenrya's eyes. I loved the contrast in the scenes between between Rhaenyra and Daemon, and Rhaenyra and Ser Criston.
The scene between Rhaenyra and Ser Criston was full of wonder and passion and I absolutely applaud the director for realising that sex scenes are often seen through a male lens - this one was one of the most beautiful I have watched, not just on GoT but EVER. The pacing was perfect, the emotion, the joy.... GoT has a lot of sex, but this was the most pure experience I had seen between two characters who only wanted each other in that moment.
I have read the books, I know how it ends up - this moment was a wonderful surprise, in contrast to the accounts of the unreliable narrators in Fire and Blood - can we just stay here now, freeze this moment? I am scared of what is to come 🥲
Watched the episode 3 times! Great Show so far
Such a fantastic show well done
I disliked every character except Daemon until episode 4. This episode made Alicent much more redeemable, made Rhaenyra an official player in the “game of thrones,” made Viserys finally not be utterly incompetent and infuriating, and Daemon actually not being a terrible human being for once but also still being terrible. Masterfully done. Up to this point I really missed Cersei or Sansa, to put Alicent in her place 😂
Alicent looks like a victim in a golden cage this episode. At the same time - she seems to have an ambition to be a queen (maybe instilled into her by Otto, maybe/partially her own), but she definitely isn`t happy about the result
Alicent will play when her children (Aegon) will be threatened
Haha!😂 I agree with every word. Though I already liked Rhaenyra.
Alicent... redeemable? Lol, what? She hasn't done a single cruel or evil thing this whole show. For what does she need redemption?
@@lordmelvin9310 I think in Alicent's case, fixing her relationship as much as possible with Rhaenyra is her way of redemption. Coz even though she's not cruel or evil and even though she had no control over whatever happened in the last few years, she IS disappointed in losing her best friend.
So they basically admitted that criston cole was “carrying a torch for her “ aka was attracted to her for some time now. Im predicting that he will b in his feelings when she ends up not choosing him
He can't marry anyways since hes in the kingsguard but something does happen later on that I wont say
@@UmbreonDarkness69 oh ik everything lmao but its okay u dont have to share your thoughts;)
@@paolamarquez02 so you've read the book "Fire & Blood?
@@UmbreonDarkness69 🌝ye
I was predicting how the show will potray the characters cuz its never gonna be 100% consistent
@@paolamarquez02 well remember the book isnt entirely accurate as grrm wrote with the telling of a maester and a court jester
Keeps getting better.
Awesome episode god I love this show
That's not how Matt and Milly acted this intimate scene...they played in with tenderness and love.
She was chasing around Daemon and was lusting after his attention in the whole episode including the previous ones.
Daemon was tender and loving and seemd to stop because of his feelings for her...didn't want to disrespect her this way, didn't wany to use her for his lust..facing with it made him frustrated I think...lost control bc real feelings got involved.
There was a previous, romantic built up that leaded there...Rhaenyra is interested in Daemon in every sense of the word, seems like first love-blindness...and Daemon, this conflicted, troubled guy has a soft spot on her as well..the whole thing is consensual and it's quite rare in this twisted world the writer has created.
I totally agree, he was so gentle with her, her excitement when she meets him, the hand in hand when they walk in the city, It didn't feel like abuse at all, I don't know what they are talking about
This, perfectly said, the frustration is from having genuine feelings for Rhaenyra
Yes the abusive uncle groping her is "gentle". The same uncle who would go around murdering accused criminals and ripping their limbs off. Let me guess, next she's gonna think she can fix him and change him?
How does it keep getting better episode after episode
It’s simple. Dumb & Dumber have nothing to do with it.
Ehhhhh?.. idk.. it’s decent. Leagues above laster GOT. But I’m not really interested in Rhaenyra’s plot lines like at.. guess GOT had the benefit of multiple perspectives so if I didn’t care for one, I’d be around others.
I love how all the actors mostly represent their characters pov
This episode was sooo good.
we can really see, feel and experience how a female's perspective is expressed through the vision of director Clare Kilner.
I like the fact that Otto was dealt the hammer blow. But the damage has already been done
Tonight was so fast and so quick, i didn't see the time passing
This show created some amazing characters. I love how you never can tell for sure why everybody is doing what they are doing and how the characters themselves are often driven by their unconsciousness.
Even when the TV people tell you their take I don’t think your own differenting take is not invalid.
Miguel's take on why Daemon could not perform makes sense to me, it wasn't about being in control and frankly Daemon never lost control to begin with.
I loved it sooo much, my favourite episode this far definitly. I love all the love plots, especially Daemon and Rhaenyra. I dont believe Daemon is just using Rhaenyra, he really cares for her in his own way. They have insane chemistry. Im on their side, but also respect the King, he is a good king, trying to get everyone to go along. Im surprised Daemon didnt deny it and even wanted to marry Rhaenyra
Agreed with everything you said!! I wrote in another comment and I even said to my husband last night while watching it, I usually hate sex scenes because they are shot in such a certain way. This one had chemistry, tension and it was done really well. Loved this episode and love Daemon and Rhaenyra!
This helped me understand so much. The two ladies really have become players in the Game of Thrones. In this very episode. This feels like the penultimate episode of the season somehow. But it’s only the penultimate episode of the first half, I guess you could say.
This show is so good, WOW!