New Orleans Businessman Clay Shaw interview 1967

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  • @moviemanmatlock
    @moviemanmatlock Před 11 měsíci +36

    “A great actor has just given a great performance, but not one word of truth.”

    • @rawbacon
      @rawbacon Před 6 měsíci +1

      Less than an hour to find Shaw not guilty..........Garrison was a disgusting lowlife and should have been locked behind bars.

  • @VanceJoudrey
    @VanceJoudrey Před 10 lety +152

    When the interviewer asked him if he had CIA connections or any involvement with them he said "none whatsoever" and both times he really forced a smile afterwords.BUT In 1979, Richard Helms, former director of the CIA, testified under oath that Clay Shaw had been a part-time contact of the Domestic Contact Service of the CIA, where Shaw volunteered information from his travels abroad, mostly to Latin America. THAT is not "none whatsoever".

    • @RevivalOfBuzzBuzz
      @RevivalOfBuzzBuzz Před 7 lety +36

      And with the documentation that has come out since (DiEugenio, Mellen, Davy, Pease) it's clear Shaw was more than a contact of the DCS but a contract agent since the fifties who served in military intelligence during WWII. He's bullshitting like there's no tomorrow.

    • @DarkLight753
      @DarkLight753 Před 7 lety +6

      Do you believe facts or a Hollywood film that's made to make $$$'s?

    • @RevivalOfBuzzBuzz
      @RevivalOfBuzzBuzz Před 7 lety +43

      You're addressing a person who is stating that Shaw lied about his C.I.A. status. I hope you're aware that there now is literally *no doubt* that he did in fact lie on this point. You can read his Agency file here:
      www.foia.cia.gov/sites/default/files/document_conversions/89801/DOC_0000904662.pdf
      Furthermore, CIA director Richard Helms admitted under oath that Shaw had been an Agency contact in 1979. Shaw lied about this, precisely as he lied that he didn't know Ferrie and Oswald when scores of people in New Orleans, Clinton and Jackson, Louisiana attest he knew both.
      I believe facts - and in this instance they are more consistent with the version presented in "J.F.K." than with the version presented by the Warren Report and its apologists.

    • @muttley8818
      @muttley8818 Před 4 lety +7

      @@RevivalOfBuzzBuzz The document proves Shaw was never a CIA AGENT (that's the difference here between an informant (which Shaw WAS) and AGENT (which Shaw wasn't). Bit of an own goal you made there mate.

    • @larrywheeler9917
      @larrywheeler9917 Před 3 lety +14

      Shaw was on the board if directors of Permidex , a cia connected front group involved in cia type machinations.

  • @SingleMalt77005
    @SingleMalt77005 Před rokem +18

    Shaw says he never knew David Ferrie yet there is a photo of them together with a few other men.

    • @danielsalinas6683
      @danielsalinas6683 Před 5 měsíci +4

      There were two photos that supposedly showed them. Shaw was in both of them, but Ferrie was not. It was two other men in those photos. However, during the HSCA investigations in the 70s, Robert Tannenbaum, who acted as a deputy chief counsel, saw a film of Ferrie, Oswald, Bannister and David Attlee Phillips at a anti Castro training camp. He only saw briefly and the film ended up dissipating. Not to mention the infamous CAP bbq photo of Ferrie and Oswald from 1955.

  • @vestibulate
    @vestibulate Před 3 lety +63

    What an amazingly self-possessed performance. His poise and apparent confidence are all the more extraordinary when you consider the circumstances.

    • @evalsoftserver
      @evalsoftserver Před 3 lety +4

      True Psychopath

    • @royfr8136
      @royfr8136 Před 3 lety +28

      Why? He knew nothing would happen to him....He was CIA

    • @glockumollie1230
      @glockumollie1230 Před 2 lety +16

      Watch his eyes when he answers about the CIA. He's a great lier and he has had a lot of experience.

    • @diturner7247
      @diturner7247 Před 2 lety +7

      @@royfr8136 yes they won the coup.

    • @raycatlin3554
      @raycatlin3554 Před 2 lety

      Bullshit Tommy - boy ! Wake - up !

  • @danielstanyard6996
    @danielstanyard6996 Před 7 lety +100

    Yet in 1996, CIA released documents that stated Clay Shaw was given 'Five Agencies' clearance in 1949! Five Agency clearance is Top Secret clearance for Counterterrorism and was involved in many projects under the ZR/ - projects orchestrated by William K. Harvey (CIA sniper in 1963!)

    • @alfiosciuto8238
      @alfiosciuto8238 Před rokem

      Shaw era coinvolto in attività filofasciste in Italia, dove operava sotto copertura con il Centro Mondiale Commerciale e la affiliata Permindex, espulse dall'Italia per attività sovversive.

    • @kathleendobens6648
      @kathleendobens6648 Před rokem +3

      No way that's so crazy.

    • @williamballz4462
      @williamballz4462 Před rokem

      All hail Harvey and his crazy bitch wife🤣

  • @glockumollie1230
    @glockumollie1230 Před 2 lety +67

    Watch his eyes when he lies about knowing David Ferry. A cab driver testified he saw Shaw, Ferry and Oswald at an apartment and there is a photo showing it. They all knew each other.

    • @larrywheels762
      @larrywheels762 Před 2 lety +12

      Shaw scripted this whole staged interview.

    • @johnbuoy1401
      @johnbuoy1401 Před rokem +6

      @@larrywheels762 well, I would imagine his handlers did 😉

    • @vestibulate
      @vestibulate Před rokem +4

      glockumollie Can you direct me to the photo? It's something I'd very much like to see.

    • @Caeruleo
      @Caeruleo Před rokem

      @@vestibulate There is no genuine photo showing Ferrie, Oswald and Shaw together, and in fact there is also no genuine photo of just Ferrie and Shaw, or just Oswald and Shaw. This is a conspiracy myth. There are two photos which have often been mistakenly claimed to show both Ferrie and Shaw, but these were actually taken in 1949, and the person falsely identified as "Ferrie" has been conclusively identified as someone else.

    • @vestibulate
      @vestibulate Před rokem +5

      @@Caeruleo I was being facetious in asking for that non-existent photo. Sometimes it's more productive to act as though you believe someone's outrageous lie when asking for evidence. They can't deflect by claiming you're impossible to convince. In this case, my request seems to have silenced the fool.

  • @DustinBlythe
    @DustinBlythe Před 7 lety +93

    Funny how he makes a gesture and says "cut" at the end. Was this a true interview or a forum to give Clay a chance to make himself look good?

    • @DarkLight753
      @DarkLight753 Před 6 lety +3

      The 'Cut' at the the end was a joke dude. That's all. Why make something out of nothing? Jeez.

    • @ultimatepatriot
      @ultimatepatriot Před 4 lety +19

      He was CIA.

    • @SF-pq3sq
      @SF-pq3sq Před 2 lety +12

      But he doesn't look all that good. His eye contact or lack of it gives that away in part. He is always looking away like he is looking for information and only when he is sure does he look down the lense raises his voice and trys to drive his point. Garrison was very correct about this man.🇦🇺🇬🇧🇺🇸

    • @SF-pq3sq
      @SF-pq3sq Před 2 lety +1

      @@DarkLight753 because every thing about this man needs attention. Clay Shaw was just one of the conspirators that assasinated a Democratically elected president. The cosequences of this event has/had significant outcomes for litterally millions of people and not just in the United States. Clay Shaw is one of the most significant persons in American history. Good or bad is history determinate.🇦🇺🇬🇧🇺🇸

    • @diturner7247
      @diturner7247 Před 2 lety

      @@ultimatepatriot About 3 different identities it is claimed if true definitely CIA. Only a few of Kennedys people like Garrison I trust.

  • @remusdan3689
    @remusdan3689 Před rokem +25

    When he talks about ”conspiracy”, he is like a student telling by heart a text previously well-learned!

    • @nathueil1
      @nathueil1 Před 9 měsíci +2

      Right! I was like is he seriously telling us how you’d have to lay the groundwork? It’s like he spoke as if there was never a preconceived notion in the history of mankind at the time to do such a thing but damn he cooked that up real quick.🥶

  • @Sitting_Judge
    @Sitting_Judge Před 5 lety +36

    The whole interview goes awfully fast, doesn't it. Like these questions were asked and answered before hand.

    • @brucepyle9063
      @brucepyle9063 Před 2 lety +9

      Absolutely, Shaw even said CUT at the end.
      Amazing amazing tenacity.

    • @tanyataylor5310
      @tanyataylor5310 Před rokem

      ​@@brucepyle9063more like blatantly cocky.

  • @zandorvorkov986
    @zandorvorkov986 Před 4 lety +44

    David Ferrie also lied to Garrison when he said he didn't know Oswald, since he was an instructor in the Civil Air Patrol which Oswald joined at the age of 15. In 1995 a picture surfaced showing Oswald and Ferrie at a Civil Air Patrol meeting proving that he lied.

    • @1xoACEox1
      @1xoACEox1 Před 2 lety +5

      Oswald only went there for a period of 2 months and attended a handful of meetings. Perfectly reasonable that Ferrie might not have remembered him among the hundreds if not thousands of boys in and out over the years. Even if he did remember him maybe he lied because he didn't want any association with the most Infamous man in America.

    • @dillionoshea7535
      @dillionoshea7535 Před 2 lety +5

      @@1xoACEox1 True indeed, the only issue is when you lie about one thing, suddenly your whole story becomes suspect and anything you say can be claimed to be a lie. If Ferris was sincere and he had nothing to do with the assassination but DID remember Oswald, it would’ve been better for him to admit as such. Credibility is HUGE (I work in Juvenile Corrections and Substance Abuse Treatment)

    • @trevorn9381
      @trevorn9381 Před rokem +1

      @@Joeyknows924 Interesting! Admiral Richard E. Byrd was the brother of U.S. Senator Harry Flood Byrd who ran the Democratic political machine in Virginia known as the "Byrd Organization". He was a segregationist Democrat who had no use for John F. Kennedy (and actually supported Richard Nixon in 1960.)

    • @einarreitz3571
      @einarreitz3571 Před rokem +4

      When Ferrie heard that Oswald might have had Ferrie's library card when arrested....Ferrie went over to Oswald's boarding house and asked the landlord if she had seen his card.
      How did Ferrie know we're Oswald lived and why would Oswald have his library card if they didn't know each other?

    • @tanyataylor5310
      @tanyataylor5310 Před rokem

      ​@@einarreitz3571WOW a library card made the connection. Interesting.

  • @gregorboca90
    @gregorboca90 Před 5 lety +72

    Tommy Lee Jones made a gret job portraying this liar.

    • @CarlosPerez-wt8ff
      @CarlosPerez-wt8ff Před 3 lety +2

      Limp risk and all

    • @aaronz7056
      @aaronz7056 Před 2 měsíci

      You mean in that movie that's packed with more than 80 demonstrable lies?

    • @DavidArbuckle-sc8zc
      @DavidArbuckle-sc8zc Před měsícem

      @@aaronz7056 Poor Aaronz. He has been attempting to make the lone gunman myth plausible for a very long time. Denigrating every witness, every doctor, every officer, and all the medical evidence that conflicts which is a mountain that grows by the day, the week and the month, and every year. And it will only get worse as more and more documents and evidence is discovered. He is like the Japanese soldier discovered on a remote Island that thinks he is still fighting WWII decades after the Japanese surrendered.

  • @badapple9482
    @badapple9482 Před 2 lety +38

    This wasn't an interview this was a performance by Clay Shaw, you cant believe a word he said lol.

    • @jp-legal
      @jp-legal Před 2 lety +1

      Shaw did not, too. That much is certain.

    • @fiachramaccana280
      @fiachramaccana280 Před 2 lety +1

      @@jp-legal ? did not what.....

    • @aaronz7056
      @aaronz7056 Před 2 měsíci

      Whereas Jim Garrison was a fountain of credibility?

  • @js09js09
    @js09js09 Před 4 lety +48

    Tommy Lee Jones was able to portray him so accurately.

    • @lenpey
      @lenpey Před 2 lety +1

      No he didn't. . . starting with that accent

    • @xMorbidArtx
      @xMorbidArtx Před 2 lety +4

      @@lenpey Go on.

    • @markhemming318
      @markhemming318 Před 2 lety +2

      With a bit of campness, to be fair .

    • @afridgetoofar1818
      @afridgetoofar1818 Před rokem +4

      “You really have me consorting with a sordid cast of characters, Mr. Garrison.”

    • @Allhoney33
      @Allhoney33 Před 10 měsíci +1

      ​@@afridgetoofar1818That line captured the narcissism and pompous character of Clay Shaw. Tommy Lee Jones definitely owned that role.
      His pompous prick Easter Sunday speech after getting up to leave took me right out...😂😂

  • @dmoney668
    @dmoney668 Před 8 lety +72

    Look at how he keeps looking up and away..

    • @joker167able
      @joker167able Před 5 lety +1

      He's just a gay guy

    • @828enigma6
      @828enigma6 Před 5 lety +8

      Exactly. I'm told this is a clear sign of an untruthful or evasive answer. Gayness has nothing to do with it.

    • @joker167able
      @joker167able Před 5 lety +1

      @@828enigma6 he's just camera shy

    • @mdk1325
      @mdk1325 Před 5 lety +2

      Eyes not fixed aren't a sign of lying. You listen to the lie, you don't see it. He's CIA it's harder to control your speech tones when you smoke. Dude was thinking of this interrogation since he talked about killing Kennedy, and this interview is staged. Too fast answering. It's what's called black ops propaganda.

    • @robbramos2047
      @robbramos2047 Před 3 lety +3

      Almost as if Dr. Shaw was looking back...and to the left.

  • @sabreflak2215
    @sabreflak2215 Před 5 lety +18

    Had highest level CIA clearance.

  • @Kane6676
    @Kane6676 Před 13 lety +11

    He's lying about how vast and far reaching the conspiracy would have to be. You just need a few people at the top and the rest follow orders without question. He knows this

    • @aaronz7056
      @aaronz7056 Před 2 měsíci

      No, buddy, you would need to approach scores of witnesses, police, FBI, Secret Service, military personnel, whole commissions, congressmen, lawyers, senators, doctors, pathologists, ballistics experts, photographers, x-ray technicians, Oswald family members, the D.A., the Chief Justice, etc., and persuade them all to obey illegal orders to commit crimes and bend over backwards making themselves all eternally loyal accessories to murder and treason.

  • @rubytat5092
    @rubytat5092 Před 9 lety +116

    this man was lying !!! watch his actions and eyes!

    • @jaysonv2
      @jaysonv2 Před 8 lety +8

      good observation I notice that too

    • @jarreauforney1035
      @jarreauforney1035 Před 7 lety +1

      you just all ready have your mind made up if you listen to him he is 100 percent right. all these people will have to be Involved in conspiracy if that's the case it don't make sense. won't you think for yourself and figure out the facts on your own cause like most conspiracy nuts u just listen to other people

    • @regkray9872
      @regkray9872 Před 7 lety +5

      Jarreau Forney who do you work for?

    • @vernpascal1531
      @vernpascal1531 Před 7 lety +6

      Clone Nutters think solid upstanding citizens like Shaw and Ferrie,LBJ, Rather,Ford,Mob Bosses are truthful. No wonder these assholes worship Magic Bullets.

    • @fernandoaguilar4759
      @fernandoaguilar4759 Před 6 lety +1

      Asesino!!!!!

  • @larrysmith2636
    @larrysmith2636 Před 8 lety +33

    Shaw rules out both the possibility of a lone assassin and conspiracy. Interesting.

    • @raycatlin3554
      @raycatlin3554 Před 2 lety +1

      W-H-Y . . ? H-O-W does he come to this conclusion . .? ? What PROOF ?
      Ba. .ba. . bla bla . . I have a meeting to attend. . let's continue this b s interview
      at a more convenient time . . like never ! ! !

  • @themeaningoflife38
    @themeaningoflife38 Před 15 lety +8

    the CIA was trying to develop a way to use cancer as a bioweapon.The doctor in charge of the plan said that lung cancer was the most aggressive.
    Clay Shaw and Jack Ruby both died of lung cancer.

    • @raycatlin3554
      @raycatlin3554 Před 2 lety

      And Both Smoked . . .
      Bio - smokes , . . Sure to rid your cult of would-be talkers providing factual evidence !

    • @fretho8410
      @fretho8410 Před rokem +1

      Shaw died from lung cancer in 1979 - 10 years after the end of the Garrison trial - it seems unlikely that anyone wanting him dead would wait this long. As for Jack Ruby, in all likelihood he knew his days were numbered by the time the Mafia contacted him and ordered him to silence Oswald for good. Putting your life at risk is less threatening knowing you're going to die soon anyway.

    • @themeaningoflife38
      @themeaningoflife38 Před rokem +3

      @@fretho8410 Declassified documents prove that Jack Ruby was a paid FBI informant and was also an informant for Richard Nixon in the 1950s. J Edgar Hoover wrote a letter to the Warren Commission informing them that Ruby worked for him.

    • @paulgoblet7393
      @paulgoblet7393 Před 4 měsíci +1

      CIA would not allow an autopsy

    • @Alex-l1j7y
      @Alex-l1j7y Před 7 dny

      CIA MK ultra doctor also paid Jack Ruby a nice visit while he was in holding. What a coincidence.

  • @RevivalOfBuzzBuzz
    @RevivalOfBuzzBuzz Před 11 lety +55

    "You know, I wasn't guilty of what Garrison charged. But Garrison had the right idea. He was almost right. Someone like me, with a background in army intelligence and post-war intelligence connections, very well might have been asked to meet with someone like Oswald or Ferrie, to give them a package or some money or whatever, and I would have faithfully done it without ever asking what I was doing it for."
    -Clay Shaw, speaking to George Dureau ("A Farewell to Justice" by Joan Mellen, p. 317)

    • @larrywheels762
      @larrywheels762 Před 2 lety +9

      Very true. These operations are compartmentalized. Shaw or ferrie or Oswald would be directed to be somewhere. Pass a message to someone, deliver a package, go between for money, that how gun running was done.

    • @jb-vb8un
      @jb-vb8un Před rokem +1

      " compartmentalized " .... OH NO, NOT THAT - - WE'RE DOOOOMED .... DOOOOOOMMMED

    • @bryanbradley6871
      @bryanbradley6871 Před rokem +1

      He knew he was going get off

    • @dannyregal
      @dannyregal Před rokem

      Yeh and clay would of dutifully given a blow job..,without asking questions Yeh right Anyone who's a Wordsworth or analyses speech understands clay shaw Understand that the right people can interpret this He is being clever All you need to know is clay is nutdeep

    • @johncooper7663
      @johncooper7663 Před rokem +2

      Lmao, Garrison had the right idea.

  • @gertrudemcfuzz74
    @gertrudemcfuzz74 Před 7 lety +53

    I call him Smedley. His real name's Frankie Jenkins but I can hardly imagine anything more uncouth, during dinner, then my turning toward the kitchen yelling, "FRANKIEEEEEEE!!!!"
    Where is all this leading to Mr. Garrison?

    • @TheMotz55
      @TheMotz55 Před 7 lety +10

      LOL Tommy Lee Jones did a great job, didn't he?. I could hear his voice as I read your post. "FRANKIEEEEEEE!!!"

    • @mazzarouni5608
      @mazzarouni5608 Před 6 lety +6

      Yes indeed TLJ did a great job. In fact the whole cast did a great job !

    • @carolusparvus
      @carolusparvus Před 5 lety +3

      I agree in principle. But did you know that someone by the name Smedley Butler, a United States Marine Corps major general prevented a fascist coup d'etat in the US?

    • @davidmuse1351
      @davidmuse1351 Před 5 lety +9

      That is great, Kitty! So is "I wish to extend to each of you, and to each of your families, my best wishes for a Happy Easter."

    • @dandy_griffith
      @dandy_griffith Před 3 lety +3

      The Quarter is filled with vivid imaginations, my dear Mr. Garrison; begrime young hoodlums who will say and do ANYTHING, as you well know.

  • @stephenmartin2737
    @stephenmartin2737 Před rokem +5

    Shaw said he had no connection to the agency, but Richard helms once stated that shaw had in fact been a contract agent for the CIA which full exonerated jim garrison

    • @aaronz7056
      @aaronz7056 Před 2 měsíci

      He said Shaw gave info to the Domestic Contact Service, as did thousands of other travellers, journalists and businessmen. Big deal.

  • @vernpascal1531
    @vernpascal1531 Před 7 lety +60

    This is the type of guy lone nutters defend... I don't know if he was involved with the Assassination,but he damn sure was involved with Ferrie and Oswald.

    • @user-ro5iu6br4f
      @user-ro5iu6br4f Před 4 lety +1

      Shaw and Ferrie, for sure.
      Oswald was supervised by Ferrie.
      Ferrie did fuck teenage boys...
      Hmm.....

    • @randyharris3175
      @randyharris3175 Před 4 lety +2

      So your point is void.

    • @randyharris3175
      @randyharris3175 Před 4 lety

      @@user-ro5iu6br4f Really you sound like you got personal exoerience.

    • @user-ro5iu6br4f
      @user-ro5iu6br4f Před 4 lety +2

      @@randyharris3175
      Idiotic comment!

    • @randyharris3175
      @randyharris3175 Před 4 lety +1

      @@user-ro5iu6br4f Lol is it true?

  • @blackhickoryblack70
    @blackhickoryblack70 Před 9 lety +49

    he was lying look at his eyes

    • @joker167able
      @joker167able Před 5 lety +1

      He's nervous because he's gay and hiding in the closet

    • @user-ro5iu6br4f
      @user-ro5iu6br4f Před 4 lety +1

      @@joker167able
      Not all gay men are flamboyant, mate.

    • @jamesmiller9515
      @jamesmiller9515 Před 3 lety

      @@user-ro5iu6br4f "You're all mine, Mary"...David Ferrie to Clay Shaw during Bondage session...

  • @adamkane5205
    @adamkane5205 Před 5 lety +9

    2.03 to 2.23. This was the truth but he pre-empted it with - if it were a conspiracy. What a slimey piece of work this guy is. Compartmentalization is how it works.

  • @johnnieneal6077
    @johnnieneal6077 Před 5 lety +11

    Garrison was on to them if the jury found Shaw guilty he would had talked and told on others

    • @aaronz7056
      @aaronz7056 Před 2 měsíci

      Pity the jury decided within minutes of starting deliberations this crackpot had no credible case.

  • @curiousspectator7295
    @curiousspectator7295 Před 9 lety +32

    he's lying

  • @brucehauge1391
    @brucehauge1391 Před 9 lety +12

    What a liar. Robert Groden's book shows him with Ferrie at one of those gay parties.

    • @SMC01ful
      @SMC01ful Před 6 lety

      No, he's definitely lying in this interview, but unfortunately, it turn's out none of the guys in the pictures with Shaw are Ferrie. Nevertheless, it certainly proves he was keen on partying with some truly shitty hair pieces. One of the more interesting pictures of a possible Oswald/Shaw connection are those of Oswald handing out FPCC leaflets in New Orleans. One of the background figures walking towards the International Trade Mart and looking at Oswald could well be Shaw. Nevertheless, evidence compiled by Jim DiEugenio and William Davy clearly indicate Shaw as mentioned was clearly lying.

    • @aaronz7056
      @aaronz7056 Před 2 měsíci

      This would be the same Groden who rotates autopsy photos to suit his agenda, acknowledges the 3 tramps were ID'd and cleared, then later refers to the "so-called tramps," and gives his middle finger to the family of a decorated police officer slain in the line of duty as he opines away without evidence the man was a conspirator...

  • @fiachramaccana280
    @fiachramaccana280 Před 2 lety +7

    Cut.....says it all.
    A performance from beginning to end

  • @agamemnon419
    @agamemnon419 Před 11 lety +4

    Shaw was not a leftist. He was very conservative & right wing.

  • @danahsutton101
    @danahsutton101 Před 13 lety +24

    We now know that the doctors at Parkland were told to keep quiet about what they saw. The doctors said there was a softball size exit wound at the right back area of the head. Also an entrance wound to the throught. These shots could not have been fired by Oswald.

    • @aaronz7056
      @aaronz7056 Před 2 měsíci

      Want to keep your coup top secret? No problem! Just go around openly threatening every high-profile witness and top doctor at this major hospital they'll get their legs broke if they don't spend the rest of their lives lying their asses off about what happened. LOL
      Never mind that those doctors talked openly and freely about the assassination from the time it happened, often to conspiracy authors.
      You know full well the doctors are plainly seen at their first press conference speculating wildly about the wounds, unable to conjecture about numbers, trajectories, etc.
      You know full well the doctors examined the autopsy photos on NOVA in 1988 and had no particular problem with them.
      You know full well the few who saw the throat wound's original appearance only said it "appeared" to be an entrance wound, something subsequently proven to be erroneous.
      Those doctors were scrambling to save Kennedy's life, they were not conducting an autopsy and had no idea what had happened back in the plaza.

  • @NickTchernikov
    @NickTchernikov Před 11 lety +8

    The most telling part of this video of his insincerity is at the end... the way Shaw cheesily says 'John F Kennedy said that.. *shrugs* ... cut," as if he truly is aware that this is an act or like a movie shot.

  • @tom6612
    @tom6612 Před 14 lety +5

    The old "someone would have talked by now" canard. For those who still believe no one did talk i suggest they get ahold of Larry Hancocks book "Someone Would Have Talked". Someone did talk and his name was John Martino

  • @fretho8410
    @fretho8410 Před rokem +9

    Seems like a rehearsed performance where Shaw has been given the questions in advance. The end of the interview is quite remarkable and indicative that this is anything but a genuine interview.

  • @dominiclacoote2855
    @dominiclacoote2855 Před 3 lety +7

    Shaw knew everything from Ferrie involvement

  • @michaelfuller2378
    @michaelfuller2378 Před rokem +2

    Garrison had it right, this dude was guilty as sin. Never knew Oswald, lol!!

  • @alexespinoza6366
    @alexespinoza6366 Před 11 lety +6

    This guy banged Kevin Bacon?!

  • @09rja
    @09rja Před měsícem +1

    One of the most maligned people I've ever seen. He didn't deserve it. There is nothing that proves he had anything to do with the assassination. And he (in fact) was a supporter of Kennedy in his run in '60. His contact with the CIA (via the DCS) is to be expected considering his travels. RIP sir.

  • @Spencer.Stratos
    @Spencer.Stratos Před rokem +7

    Most of those involved are long dead by now and died with their secrets.
    Clay shaw firstly said, ironically, the DPD. Well, it is rumored that the knoll fatal shot came from one Roscoe White, a CIA agent working the Dallas police force during the time frame of the assassination who had connections with Jack Ruby. He acted (while in uniform) with a team of shooters/other agents in triangulated crossfire, unknown to the police force and later he killed Tippit because he somehow figured him out or knew about it and was going to snitch on him. He was going to kill Oswald too but he got away and ran and hid in the theatre... Then since he couldn't get him after he was arrested, he got Ruby to kill him because Oswald was going to snitch, rightfully so too because they were fucking him over either way. From what I've learned that makes about the most sense. Claw Shaw was just big money, shot caller, organizer. He wasn't the only one. He was a great bold face liar though I'll give him that.

    • @SingleMalt77005
      @SingleMalt77005 Před rokem

      So what is the bottom line here? Who do you think was behind the murder?

    • @Spencer.Stratos
      @Spencer.Stratos Před rokem

      @@SingleMalt77005 a whole network of people stemming from the CIA. Fatal shot came from the knoll, secret agent most likely Roscoe White working for DPD, unbeknownst to them. There were agents in the book depository, 2 individuals. One was also a shooter. Then one in the DalTex building or whichever the third building was, got a shot in the back or missed, don't know. From everything I've gathered. In short, the CIA did most of it. LBJ knew about it, one of his guys (Malcolm Wallace) was in the book depository building on the sixth floor, Lee Oswald wasn't in the snipers window or even on that floor, most likely he was minding his own business trying to play calm, (Lee probably once had a role but decided to back out of it which is why they chose him as the Patsy.) Power got cut off in the building right before the shots rang out. You got to really dig to find this stuff but it's out there.

    • @Spencer.Stratos
      @Spencer.Stratos Před rokem

      @@SingleMalt77005 you could say the military industrial complex greenlighted and assisted in the assassination as well by limiting the amount of security that would be present and things of that nature. They wanted their war in Vietnam. But the CIA did the dirty work. I think the mafia is tied in only thru the CIA, as they were to help them with their placing, surroundings, connections, lookouts and perhaps even weapons. CIA is the only entity who could have gotten away with it Scott free, the mob couldn't have gotten away with the shooting, the government wouldn't have covered their asses or erased their tracks like they did for the CIA. It was a whole web of entities at play and no one could be found guilty for it. Some country huh?

    • @tanyataylor5310
      @tanyataylor5310 Před rokem

      WOW!

    • @fritzforsthoefel8031
      @fritzforsthoefel8031 Před 10 měsíci

      Conspiracy theories are maney do you have any idea how maney different conspiracys have been put forth fact is both brothers of the president agreed with the warren commission

  • @carlosgale6777
    @carlosgale6777 Před 6 lety +14

    Minute 4:00 He gives it all. All of those involved in the assassination of JFK! He's so enthralled and swirled in his own delusion and dark lie, that he spills the depths of his secrets. That's what happens to these individuals had descended so low in their vibes and vortexes. That they would give themselves speaking in these kind of interviews.

  • @wndrmiikeent
    @wndrmiikeent Před rokem +3

    Damn he was lying like hell

  • @clayvegas
    @clayvegas Před 10 lety +21

    When your eyes dart around the room it means you haven't a care about what you're saying, if it's true or not it doesn't matter. Perhaps that's stated more clearly when he ends it with Cut and safe wave of hands. That's cold blooded right there

    • @evalsoftserver
      @evalsoftserver Před 3 lety +1

      True Psychopath

    • @suejuede525
      @suejuede525 Před 3 lety +2

      On the contrary. When eyes dart around the room. Your trying to fabricate a message.

    • @johnnycash1365
      @johnnycash1365 Před 2 lety +3

      When your eyes move, it doesn't mean anything!

    • @myronhelton4441
      @myronhelton4441 Před rokem +1

      Your real name is a boy called Sue.

    • @jb-vb8un
      @jb-vb8un Před rokem

      @clubdegas - is that via the CLUTCH CARGO EYE-DARTING DECODER handbook ?? Maaaan, how'd I ever get along without that ....

  • @FGTFJT
    @FGTFJT Před 15 lety +4

    i was about to say the same. his eyes blink like crazy. that is a sign he is hiding or being told what to say. he was nervous while he did this interview.

    • @jb-vb8un
      @jb-vb8un Před rokem

      OH GAWD NOOOO - not the oi ' " EYE BLINK LIKE CRAZY " caper .... ITS THE END OF THE WOOOORLD

  • @Halotest100
    @Halotest100 Před 9 měsíci +2

    All LBJ had to do was pull rank and that is what happened.

  • @mtracy9
    @mtracy9 Před 13 lety +19

    Shaw's International Trade Mart was a subsidiary of a shadowy entity known as the Centro Mondiale Commerciale. The Trade Mart was connected with Centro Mondiale Commerciale (CMC) through yet another shadowy firm named Permindex. It is fascinating to note that in the 1962 edition of Who's Who in the South and Southwest, Shaw gave biographical information stating that he was on the board of directors of Permindex. However in the 1963-64 edition, the reference to Permindex was dropped.

    • @larrywheels762
      @larrywheels762 Před 2 lety +2

      Shaw slipped on that one. That organization was a Cia front group. They fixed the typo in the next edition.

  • @garyvanarsdale3142
    @garyvanarsdale3142 Před rokem +1

    Outing homosexuals in the 60's ruined lives - perfect Agency recruiting strategy.

  • @MrJimmorgan100
    @MrJimmorgan100 Před 9 lety +15

    Of course we now know per cia documents that he was a highly paid operative of the cia.

    • @Jon8010
      @Jon8010 Před 9 lety +4

      +James Morgan he most definitely was not a "highly paid operative", you've been watching too much JFK

  • @bobsteel6916
    @bobsteel6916 Před 2 lety +2

    All them CIA agents are kind of into fruity weird things, including Clay (Flamer) Shaw.

  • @KingfisherLtd
    @KingfisherLtd Před 4 lety +5

    Tommy Lee Jones has created exact replica of Shaw in JFK

    • @lenpey
      @lenpey Před 2 lety +1

      No he didn't- starting with that b.s. accent Jones talks in.

    • @jonjones7137
      @jonjones7137 Před rokem

      @@lenpey 🤣

  • @AlsCollectibles
    @AlsCollectibles Před 5 lety +2

    Thanks for sharing

  • @mielecole
    @mielecole Před 13 lety +8

    the district attorney,jim garrison was correct.this man was apsulutly guilty.

  • @marty177
    @marty177 Před 14 lety +1

    Thanks for the post.

  • @Evenflo76
    @Evenflo76 Před 12 lety +5

    I'd you have doubts, research who owned the Texas School Book Depository in 1963.

    • @lenpey
      @lenpey Před 2 lety

      A guy named D. Harold Byrd. What of it?

    • @larrywheels762
      @larrywheels762 Před 2 lety

      A Texas oil supporter of LBJ. Owned defense contracts for huge military profits if the Vietnam War was expanded. Very much anti Kennedy, like all the right-wing Texas oilmen.

  • @kaderickdavis6787
    @kaderickdavis6787 Před 2 lety +2

    He’s a scary looking dude.

  • @LoneNutter1
    @LoneNutter1 Před 13 lety +5

    @john48martin There are a few sources worth looking at regarding the Clay Shay trial. There's a segment in the ABC program "The Kennedy Assassination-Beyond Conspiracy". It's hosted by Peter Jennings and in the later portion of the program they talk to people that worked for Garrison and their involvement in the Shaw trial. The book "American Grotesque" is an account of the Shaw trial and while the author admittedly sympathizes with Shaw, it offers a unique perspective of the trial.

  • @khaosanimagoddessofthevoid1023

    He feels in this video like he's both lying and telling the truth.

  • @zandorvorkov986
    @zandorvorkov986 Před 4 lety +4

    At 2:38, he says in the 4 years intervening there would have been a deathbed confession? So, 4 years after killing Kennedy, the plotter or plotters would have been dying in bed of old age!?

    • @jp-legal
      @jp-legal Před 2 lety

      Funny enough it is quite prophet style because his cia fellow Howard Hunt named the grassy knoll shooter Lucien Sarti in his book "American Spy: My Secret History in the CIA, Watergate, and Beyond", published in 2004 (3 years before his death). Howard Hunt and Shaw were connected through "QKENCHANT". So obviously Hunt was at least privy to intimate assassination knowledge and connection to Shaw who was connected to the patsy Oswald and the assumed crime scene TSBD owner Byrd.
      In a subtile coded as if style he made a theme, that the conspiracy involved many people and speaking about it is connected in his mind with "death(bed)" which was true for so many died or murdered witnesses as Ferrie who "wrote a goodbye letter" before he died suddenly on a aneurysm.

    • @Imtahotep
      @Imtahotep Před 2 lety

      @@jp-legal Two suicide notes. Both typed. Only to die of an aneurysm. The hit teams didn't need to be accuate, just persistent. And the murder rate picks up just around the time HSCA investigators come calling. Like George DeMohrenschildt for example, whose wife Jeanne LeGon was the dress designer for "Nardis of Dallas" a company owned by Abraham Zapruder.

    • @larrywheels762
      @larrywheels762 Před 2 lety

      In Texas a lot of people who knew ruby and Oswald were fearful of coming forward. And rightfully so.

    • @raycatlin3554
      @raycatlin3554 Před 2 lety

      @@jp-legal Ha ha ha , 2 Suicide Notes ! ! !

    • @nathueil1
      @nathueil1 Před 9 měsíci

      They predicted and knew where it would eventually end up and how people would have to address JFKs assassination. Here we are in 2023 and what he said in that interview aptly applies today.

  • @cuppasilverbullets
    @cuppasilverbullets Před 2 lety +1

    He should of been charged with perjury because he was involved with the CIA

  • @bowlerguy426
    @bowlerguy426 Před 9 lety +7

    Like watching A-Rod lie to Katie Couric

  • @agamemnon419
    @agamemnon419 Před 14 lety +14

    @LoneNutter1 If you read the CIA documents on Clay Shaw that have been released since the passing of the JFK Act they indicate that Shaw was briefed in advance by the CIA & given areas to investigate in each country he would travel. He was given assignments by the Agency. He was a CIA operative.

  • @balerjohnson3099
    @balerjohnson3099 Před 6 lety +5

    He mentioned death bed confessions that would not happen until Lee Howard Hunt spilled the beans .

    • @jp-legal
      @jp-legal Před 2 lety

      Shaw was quite prophetic and inspiring in that. It is a tricky teasing concerning the many suddenly died witnesses. So it is logical for him to connect confession to death (bed). If you remind the sudden fate of Shaw´s friend Ferrie. It is clear that he feared for his own life at this point.

  • @lisolis6017
    @lisolis6017 Před 2 lety +1

    "Literally thousand of characters"

  • @Walt78
    @Walt78 Před 5 lety +6

    Tommy Lee Jones really nailed it with his performance of Clay Shaw. Amazing!

  • @leesawyer2328
    @leesawyer2328 Před 2 lety +1

    I guess the photo of Lee Oswald, David Ferrie and him together was not know then?

  • @charleslennonbaker
    @charleslennonbaker Před 12 lety +4

    When he's lieing he locks down to the right. When he's being "honest" he looks up to his left.

  • @sethmanrockandroll
    @sethmanrockandroll Před 15 lety +2

    I assume that you've been puffing on the Bugliosi cigar.
    In which case, I'm sure that there are people who think that he's a little warped for thinking Dan Rather to be a reliable newsman on the Assassination. In all those thousand pages of his book, I was very fascinated to discover that Bugliosi doesn't mention Dan Rather's verbal reenactment of the Zapruder film where he gives an account of " reviewing the tape" and speaking completely contrary to everything we have seen from that tape.

  • @carolyn1256
    @carolyn1256 Před 8 lety +31

    Liar liar pants on fire

    • @SebMenard
      @SebMenard Před 6 lety

      Carolyn H liar liar.. murderer is more appropriate

  • @wunderdoggy
    @wunderdoggy Před 6 lety +2

    Let's not forget cia-agent Victor Marchetti's admission that he realised Shaw was part of the agengy at a meeting when he was informed the agency was putting its full resources behind Mr Shaw during the Garrison trial.

    • @larrywheels762
      @larrywheels762 Před 2 lety

      Shaw name came up to give him help in the Garrison trial from the highest levels of the Cia. Director Helms himself .

  • @agamemnon419
    @agamemnon419 Před 14 lety +6

    There's Huge Documentation on Clay Shaw's CIA career !

  • @Mr101spb
    @Mr101spb Před 12 lety +1

    He looks guilty. He's lied about not being in the CIA (either him or director Richard Helms who said he was lied). Saying cut at the end makes it all sound fake.

  • @konstantinpakhomov3910
    @konstantinpakhomov3910 Před 7 lety +4

    Good old fascism

  • @HeyButWhy
    @HeyButWhy Před 29 dny +1

    For a gay man of some standing to survive in the 40’s/50’s/60’s in the south would create a second side of a man surely. He would surely too have become an expert liar in order to hide his homosexuality. This ability means he is far less readable than your avg every day man

  • @salvadorealiberto
    @salvadorealiberto Před 6 lety +4

    Lovely voice and style of speech.

  • @LoneNutter1
    @LoneNutter1 Před 13 lety +1

    @recruit71 correct theory and what is the compelling aspect that makes all the other theories wrong?

  • @dustanskora3371
    @dustanskora3371 Před 11 lety +4

    Garrison had a weak case, but came closer than you may think. Unfortunately, he was compromised.

  • @davewallace8219
    @davewallace8219 Před rokem +1

    the man is articulate....composed and professional....id employ him in a minute as an intelligence officer!

  • @FightingRimbaud
    @FightingRimbaud Před 4 lety +6

    Notice when he says “if there were a conspiracy it would have had to involved...” and proceeds to name various government entities. Funny to note which agency he leaves out!

    • @7descent736
      @7descent736 Před 3 lety +2

      He instantly named all the parties that would have been involved excluding the CIA. The way he rapidly spent that s*** out was scariest f***.

  • @dillionoshea7535
    @dillionoshea7535 Před 2 měsíci

    What people here don’t understand is Shaw blatantly lied here. He stated on film “he had no association with the agency whatsoever”. But, it has been revealed he did…he was a “part time contact” of the agency due to his travels. It may minuscule, but he still did have an association with the agency and if he lied about this, what else did he lie about? Just saying 🤷‍♂️

  • @adamredfield
    @adamredfield Před 6 lety +3

    It is a shame that this completely innocent man was first persecuted by a genuine fascist (I do not use the word lightly), Garrison and then re-victimized again by Oliver Stone.

  • @BaddaBing2001
    @BaddaBing2001 Před 7 měsíci +1

    This dude is smooth.

  • @pajasa62
    @pajasa62 Před 10 lety +6

    "Conspiracy so waste to boggle the imagination"....and there it is. Something 50 YEARS AFTER the tragic event in Dallas, that conspiracy theorists aren't able to play out in their heads....and if they attempt to, they will always have to introduce phantom events and people in any discussion.

  • @dustyflair
    @dustyflair Před měsícem

    This dude and that lady sound JUST alike. The lady used to work for Jack Ruby and after all this OWNED A HORSE FARM!

  • @LoneNutter1
    @LoneNutter1 Před 13 lety +3

    @Getsen42 I own the JFK film and the accompanying documentary and have watched it many times. I give credit to the movie JFK for being the catalyst that got me to re-think my long held beliefs that JFK was felled by a conspiracy. I was willing to challenge my long-held beliefs about a "conspiracy" and began to read material that had a different opinion. You should read "American Grotesque". It's about the Clay Shaw trial. Perhaps you'll be similarly inspired as I was.

  • @HeyButWhy
    @HeyButWhy Před 29 dny

    He does look to our left when asked those juiciest questions? CIA/Ferrie/Innocence? Then to out right when he is contemplating, and straight ahead when sure of his answer…

  • @davidvictor52
    @davidvictor52 Před 7 lety +7

    Luke 12:2 The time is coming when everything that is covered up will be revealed, and all that is secret will be made known to all.

  • @PatrickFoley-vf3lr
    @PatrickFoley-vf3lr Před rokem +1

    We will never know the full story.

  • @oldermuscleguy
    @oldermuscleguy Před 8 lety +3

    This guy looked like an old man and he was my age 61/62 😂😂😆🙋🏻😴

    • @matthewlaurence3121
      @matthewlaurence3121 Před 8 lety +1

      He was 61 at the time of his death from lung cancer, only 54 at the time of this interview. He had prematurely grey hair, and smoking accelerates the ageing process. But at the same time, people really did age and expire quicker in those days. My own father is 64 today and he does not look anywhere near as old and tired as Clay Shaw did in his early 50s; or Garrison, for that matter, in his 40s.

    • @oldermuscleguy
      @oldermuscleguy Před 8 lety

      +Matthew Laurence (Matternick-europhile) Sounds right especially on smoking accelerating the aging .Plus diet eating healthy and exercising daily adds to the fact of looking and feeling younger but also genetics play a big part cause there are smokers who live to be 100 and Jack LaLanne famous fitness guy in the 50s and 60s lived to 96 which isnt too shabby as well

    • @jimbobjimjim6500
      @jimbobjimjim6500 Před 6 lety

      People looked older in those days, too much estrogeon in our food and water supply today. This feminizes males causing men to look just like big boys, and hyperfeminizes women causing to look like big girls. Thats why there are no Steve McQueens today but plenty of Shya Le Boufs.

    • @eduardoflores7661
      @eduardoflores7661 Před 6 lety

      Norman Witt nope at the day he was interviewed he had 54 years old.

  • @XRPSwan
    @XRPSwan Před rokem

    This house he is in, 1313 Dauphine, went for sale in March 2023, and when you look at the pictures, this guy really lived in a very modest home. Unlike what is portrayed in the 1992 film.

  • @HeyButWhy
    @HeyButWhy Před 29 dny

    What an actor (per CIA links👀). Saying that, I’m mindful that I know only what has been portrayed but Garrison never went mad, never swayed, so for a man of that standing to take Shaw all the way to court surely is smoke and fire

  • @NCFB4Life33
    @NCFB4Life33 Před 14 lety +1

    @LoneNutter1 you are indeed a lone nut, everyone knows that clay shaw was a part of the assassination and i really don't want to discuss it anymore

  • @williamdonnelly224
    @williamdonnelly224 Před 2 měsíci

    Shaw sounds like he's delivering a well rehearsed speech.

  • @niceguy4875
    @niceguy4875 Před 2 měsíci

    He's such a narcissist that he pretty much lays it all out, but it is so arrogant that there is nothing you can do about it..

  • @mortalclown3812
    @mortalclown3812 Před 4 lety +1

    The only thing worse than Mr. Shaw not smiling was when he tried to do so.
    After so long eluding truth for various reasons, one wonders if a person loses the ability to discern it at all. Then again, that is major slack-cutting I'm doing here. Overall? Troubled, fiendish sort of fellow.

  • @themeaningoflife38
    @themeaningoflife38 Před 15 lety +2

    like Secret Service agent Emory Roberts who told agents to stay behind at love field and ordered them off the limo as it entered Dealey Plaza.Roberts was a good buddy of LBJ's.

    • @raycatlin3554
      @raycatlin3554 Před 2 lety

      There are MAINTENANCE tunnels under the city & Gr8t shooting possibilities
      from the water drain gratings. . hmm.
      Can spot'em in Zap's footage , good for a throat , head shot & walk the fk away
      at your convenience like an average shitizen ! SO S-A-D . . .

  • @jamesbeckham7046
    @jamesbeckham7046 Před rokem +1

    He just admitted his guilt indirectly n was in control of the interview.

  • @luckybestwash
    @luckybestwash Před 3 měsíci +1

    Sorry I don't recognize him without his gold paint, black cape and ball gag

  • @Holy_hand-grenade
    @Holy_hand-grenade Před 6 lety +1

    I would have believed him more if he would have been honest about his dislike of JFK’s policies

  • @davidarbuckle7236
    @davidarbuckle7236 Před rokem

    He was so guilty. But, he was just a financier behind it.

  • @Nightmarigny
    @Nightmarigny Před rokem

    Many of you are forgetting that this case outed him and it was illegal to be queer, especially here in the deep south. This trial ruined his life and killed him. Of course he was nervous, and of course this interview was designed for him to try to salvage his reputation. Of course he did not admit to his involvement with other gay men. Luckily for himself he was rich, but plenty of queer men were arrested in bar raids, their faces and names published in papers, their marriages destroyed, their jobs lost. It went on until the early 1980s here in New Orleans.
    Read Cruising for Conspirators by Alecia Long. Garisson was no hero. He was a fanatic. Shaw, on the other hand, did more for the city of New Orleans than almost anyone in our history.

  • @philsooty61
    @philsooty61 Před rokem +1

    one of the biggest liars ever recorded on film