Applying force to an external load and then receiving that external load might be the best argument for why wrestlers/grapplers should practice the Olympic lifts. Oly lifts = wrestling a barbell. Closest thing you can do in the gym besides actually wrestling.
Ok! Let me analyze this. 1.what is more applicable to sprinting in this situation-full Oly lifts or the power versions/Power Cleans & power snatches? Well,I believe the power versions more than full Lifts done in lifting shoes with more technique involved. Ok. 2.elite sprinters/ 100m=+/- 11.0 sec / 30m = +/- 4.0 sec ,roughly powersnatching own bodyweight ,cleaning 1.4 of bw,parallel squatting about double bw 3.Oly lifters with comparable numbers wouldn't even be able to test on the jumping as well as those sprinters who can vertical jump about 32 inches and broad jump about 10 ft,let alone get into acceleration positions to maintain the mechanics of sprinting. 4.if we take 2 identical twins,aged 16 ,and trained them for 10 years.One does only sprinting training and never touches the weights and the other does Oly lifting training,no sprints.After 10years ,you test their 40 yards.I am putting my money on the sprinter! And we can argue about the standing vertical jump. 5.why not do both? Doing Oly lifts one day and sprinting the next seems like quite a good template for majority of training methodology nerds out there. Keep putting out your great content ,Will !
This guy seems to forget that there are such things as variations of oly lifts. This is what the top sprinters focus on not necessarily the full lifts. And it's been shown that power versions of the oly lifts have great carryover to starting off the blocks in sprinting.
@@armpitsnakes lot of powerlifters squat atg. Your view is just preconception bias from projecting and the habitus from seeing a snippet of spf lifters
Hey Will, my University Gym won't allow any noise from the plates hitting the ground, despite having Weightlifting platforms and Bumper plates. What variations of the Olympic lifts would you be doing in this situation? Going to a different Gym is not possible for the foreseeable future unfortunately.
yes@@petar3120for jerk, rerack the weight from overhead into front rack then lower it to your hip then lower it to the floor. for snatch you can drop it to your hips and then lower it
@@roger012194 yeah that works obviously. But I can't think of even more variations because I'm new to the Olympic lifts. I know about the Power versions and the Hang versions of both the snatch and the Clean. I also know about Clean Pulls and Snatch Grip High Pulls. Also, one thing that comes to mind is that I can't be doing heavy snatches at all, because in case of me failing (backwards), there is no way to control the eccentric.
Considering the information in your other videos and this one on your opinions on Olympic lifting’s transferability to sprint performance improvements, I’m curious on how you marry your opinions there with your other opinions that the loads necessary for adaptations to sport on a given Olympic lift need to be close to maximal. In other words, if you’re an experienced team sport athlete looking to improve acceleration, speed, power, etc. via Olympic lifts (assuming you’re already regularly practicing sprinting, availing, etc. at a high level) one would, if adhering to the messaging in your videos, need what is likely a much higher load on an Olympic lift than what said athlete is prepared to handle when doing the Olympic lift. Thus, potentially, wasting the athletes time with a lift and load they can’t handle yet lightening said load would not (according to your logic as I understand it) not be enough of a stimulus to drive adaptations for the goals of said athlete…
Sprint either before weight training sessions or on the days you don't lift. 10-12 sets of short distances is more than enough exposure to get some benefits. Depending on the distance you only need 60-90 sec between sprint efforts to fully recover. I sprint 2x a week on the days I don't lift and it's been working wonders.
@LiftRunThrowJump is spot on. I just started Will's Launch 2.0 program and I typically do my sprint/plyo sessions before lifting weights or alternating days. I also play basketball a couple times per week on top of this. But I will say that I've had to work up to this frequency. And if my joints feel too sore to do foot sprints, I'll get on an assault bike and do low impact bike sprints for conditioning.
He’s saying there are safer/yet just as effective ways to train athletes to prepare for the sport of football given time the component than Olympic lifting. The 2022 NFL Strength Coach of the year is correct.
I saw the other video and I was waiting for this video. Again, common sense is always better. No need to get sooooo specific at training, just specific enough.
Specificity. If the Olympic weightlifters were better sprinters they’d be doing sprinting ffs instead of Olympic weightlifting. Buddie morris needs to check his cognitive bias .
Applying force to an external load and then receiving that external load might be the best argument for why wrestlers/grapplers should practice the Olympic lifts. Oly lifts = wrestling a barbell. Closest thing you can do in the gym besides actually wrestling.
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Ok! Let me analyze this. 1.what is more applicable to sprinting in this situation-full Oly lifts or the power versions/Power Cleans & power snatches? Well,I believe the power versions more than full Lifts done in lifting shoes with more technique involved. Ok.
2.elite sprinters/ 100m=+/- 11.0 sec / 30m = +/- 4.0 sec ,roughly powersnatching own bodyweight ,cleaning 1.4 of bw,parallel squatting about double bw
3.Oly lifters with comparable numbers wouldn't even be able to test on the jumping as well as those sprinters who can vertical jump about 32 inches and broad jump about 10 ft,let alone get into acceleration positions to maintain the mechanics of sprinting.
4.if we take 2 identical twins,aged 16 ,and trained them for 10 years.One does only sprinting training and never touches the weights and the other does Oly lifting training,no sprints.After 10years ,you test their 40 yards.I am putting my money on the sprinter! And we can argue about the standing vertical jump.
5.why not do both? Doing Oly lifts one day and sprinting the next seems like quite a good template for majority of training methodology nerds out there.
Keep putting out your great content ,Will !
💯 love Olympic lifts
They did a study i believe in the 80s, and the movement that weightlifters do with their feet was the quickest in all of the sports
Excellent session.....Thankyou Will
That's why l refuse to be good at anything, but I still love lifting
That split snatch 😤
its a crazy argument for sure. I dont think any other exercise trains motor learning like olympic lift variants
This why you need channel organization. So those can keep up with your stances
Just turn on notifications lol
@willratelle8027 it's not for me bruh for your channel growth. They are btw
More content where the Hoss says "No shit" please. Long overdue.
This MFer push pressed 152
This guy seems to forget that there are such things as variations of oly lifts. This is what the top sprinters focus on not necessarily the full lifts. And it's been shown that power versions of the oly lifts have great carryover to starting off the blocks in sprinting.
I have never seen a powerlifter outrun a sprinter. Thats why I dont squat. Squats are overrated.🤪
Maybe dont squat like a powerlifter?
But sprinter squat...
Squats are certainly not overated by any means they will make you faster, jump higher etc but specificity is key
@@armpitsnakes lot of powerlifters squat atg. Your view is just preconception bias from projecting and the habitus from seeing a snippet of spf lifters
@@armpitsnakes clown
Pretty much every sprinter training video I’ve seen has them doing cleans of some sort.
Also was that a snatch jerk?
Split Snatch!
Hey Will, my University Gym won't allow any noise from the plates hitting the ground, despite having Weightlifting platforms and Bumper plates.
What variations of the Olympic lifts would you be doing in this situation?
Going to a different Gym is not possible for the foreseeable future unfortunately.
Just don't drop weight
yes@@petar3120for jerk, rerack the weight from overhead into front rack then lower it to your hip then lower it to the floor. for snatch you can drop it to your hips and then lower it
What about hang variations?
@@roger012194 yeah that works obviously.
But I can't think of even more variations because I'm new to the Olympic lifts.
I know about the Power versions and the Hang versions of both the snatch and the Clean. I also know about Clean Pulls and Snatch Grip High Pulls.
Also, one thing that comes to mind is that I can't be doing heavy snatches at all, because in case of me failing (backwards), there is no way to control the eccentric.
That sounds like classic University gym idiocy to me.
Considering the information in your other videos and this one on your opinions on Olympic lifting’s transferability to sprint performance improvements, I’m curious on how you marry your opinions there with your other opinions that the loads necessary for adaptations to sport on a given Olympic lift need to be close to maximal.
In other words, if you’re an experienced team sport athlete looking to improve acceleration, speed, power, etc. via Olympic lifts (assuming you’re already regularly practicing sprinting, availing, etc. at a high level) one would, if adhering to the messaging in your videos, need what is likely a much higher load on an Olympic lift than what said athlete is prepared to handle when doing the Olympic lift. Thus, potentially, wasting the athletes time with a lift and load they can’t handle yet lightening said load would not (according to your logic as I understand it) not be enough of a stimulus to drive adaptations for the goals of said athlete…
Hey Will, how do we add in sprinting?
Ex: If I jump and lift heavy in the same session twice a week, when do I do my sprints? How much rest do I need?
Sprint either before weight training sessions or on the days you don't lift. 10-12 sets of short distances is more than enough exposure to get some benefits. Depending on the distance you only need 60-90 sec between sprint efforts to fully recover. I sprint 2x a week on the days I don't lift and it's been working wonders.
Or buy one of Will's programs. There are sprints built into the program. All questions can be answered with one purchase.
@LiftRunThrowJump is spot on. I just started Will's Launch 2.0 program and I typically do my sprint/plyo sessions before lifting weights or alternating days. I also play basketball a couple times per week on top of this. But I will say that I've had to work up to this frequency. And if my joints feel too sore to do foot sprints, I'll get on an assault bike and do low impact bike sprints for conditioning.
He’s saying there are safer/yet just as effective ways to train athletes to prepare for the sport of football given time the component than Olympic lifting. The 2022 NFL Strength Coach of the year is correct.
That’s not what he said
I saw the other video and I was waiting for this video. Again, common sense is always better. No need to get sooooo specific at training, just specific enough.
Specificity. If the Olympic weightlifters were better sprinters they’d be doing sprinting ffs instead of Olympic weightlifting. Buddie morris needs to check his cognitive bias .
Of course! What a ridiculous assumption!😂😂
Seems Buddy's a boomer?
He's a "back-in-my-day"er
lol
Booming on deez nuts