Subaru Outback XT Turbo vs Non-Turbo Compared: Fuel Economy, Power, Refinement & Value Tested

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  • čas přidán 11. 06. 2024
  • Is it worth spending the extra $5000 on the Outback XT over the regular non-turbo version? We test out all the factors that matter in making that important decision.
    We compare the fuel economy (tested at the bowser, not the trip computer), in-cabin noise and refinement, power, acceleration and braking times and value for money of the Outback XT Sport vs the regular Outback Sport.
    Many of the findings may surprise you - especially the annual fuel and servicing costs.
    A tow test of the Outback XT is coming soon.
    Time codes:
    0:00 - Intro
    0:51 - Engine Power Levels
    1:49 - Fuel Economy Comparison
    3:11 - Annual Fuel Spend
    3:47 - Servicing Costs
    4:25 - Comprehensive Insurance
    4:46 - 0-100km/h Times (0-62)
    5:15 - Emergency Braking Distances
    5:31 - Driving the Non-Turbo
    7:00 - Cabin Noise While Accelerating
    8:24 - Driving the XT Turbo
    11:55 - Visual Differences
    12:44 - Interior & Tech
    14:12 - Back Seats
    15:05 - Boot & Cargo Room
    15:50 - Verdict: Is The Outback XT Worth It?
    The Outback competes with the Volkswagen Passat Alltrack 162TSI, Audi A4 Allroad, Skoda Superb Scout, Volvo V60 Cross Country and other cladded wagons.
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  • @rustyjackhammer
    @rustyjackhammer Před rokem +179

    I’ve had my XT for 3 weeks, zero regrets, best 5k I’ve ever spent.

    • @chasingcars
      @chasingcars  Před rokem +8

      Good to hear.

    • @zyralius
      @zyralius Před rokem +5

      make sure you keep an eye out on your oil level sensor/lower oil pan for leaks. my leaked at 800 miles on my 2022 2.4 DiT engine.

    • @kevinstarski1598
      @kevinstarski1598 Před rokem +2

      @@perpetualgrin5804 I was thinking the same lol

    • @parvent3556
      @parvent3556 Před rokem +5

      5k? Where can I get one for 5k? Around here they're $55k!

    • @zyralius
      @zyralius Před rokem +8

      @@parvent3556 I’m pretty sure we are here comparing non turbo vs turbo and if the $5k difference is worth it to upgrade from NA to Turbo

  • @billszymanski4844
    @billszymanski4844 Před 8 měsíci +11

    I am facing exactly this decision today. I appreciate your test, your style, and you taking a clear stand at the end!

    • @Valdismith
      @Valdismith Před 5 měsíci

      I hope you went for the XT, as it is a no-brainer, you're spending that much on a car already I would definitely push for the Turbo, especially when I know the fake fuel saving promises with a weak engine for the vehicle weight, it's the same or even worst if I drive it, it will rev to 6K very often. When you do that, even not that extreme the smaller/weaker engine usually consumes more fuel:)

    • @billszymanski4844
      @billszymanski4844 Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@Valdismith I did buy the XT and am quite happy. I can't imagine the regular even for daily drive. It would be making me nuts and I am not a performance driver. I do miss my Audi Allroad still. ;) Hopefully, the subie will last 200K miles vs 100K miles.

  • @gregcoops2626
    @gregcoops2626 Před rokem +71

    More reviews like this please. As you say in your review, most shoppers are looking for a quite comfortable car for their daily drive. So many reviews bang on about carving up back roads etc. The vast majority want info on NVH, comfort, drivability and performance. Measuring the noise (dB) was a great addition. Thanks for a great review.

    • @creaturefeature7850
      @creaturefeature7850 Před rokem +1

      Yes cabin noise important except when the Harman Kardon is cranked with your favourite tune! Outstanding 💪

    • @stevecrocker6904
      @stevecrocker6904 Před rokem +4

      "quiet and comfortable" makes for less fatigue over distance, for sure

    • @richardbennett4472
      @richardbennett4472 Před měsícem

      The 2.4 wear out quicker. Extra hard on engine over time.😮

  • @thecleaningteacher638
    @thecleaningteacher638 Před 9 měsíci

    This was such a helpful video-the most straightforward I’ve seen on the comparison.

  • @boombap08
    @boombap08 Před 10 měsíci +1

    This really helped in my understanding of the differences and also got me way more excited for my wilderness to come in October! Thanks again and great content!

  • @robertfearnside7731
    @robertfearnside7731 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Great, concise and helpful review for a future buyer of the Subaru OUTBACK XT. Thank you 'Chasing Cars' for a 'no nonsense review/ have subscribed and look forward to future videos on the 'Outback' and hopefully will be able to my many outback tours planned for the future.

  • @azadr9231
    @azadr9231 Před rokem +1

    Been following g this channel from its early days. Always the best reviews on CZcams.

  • @JP-rb1js
    @JP-rb1js Před 2 měsíci +1

    I just leased a 2024 outback xt and I couldn’t be happier! This is my 3rd outback and I can definitely tell the difference. I love it!!

  • @MarksTech
    @MarksTech Před rokem +5

    the fuel consumption doesn't make sense. I used to own a '22 XT and now I own the '23 Limited (NA motor) - and in the city, im getting 29MPG (8.11 L/100km). with my XT, I was getting AT BEST 24 MPG in the city (9.8 L/100km) - from everyone ive spoken with that have both the XT and NA, all say the NA gets much better economy in both city and highway driving.
    were your engines broken in prior to testing? prior to break in, my NA was getting 27MPG city (8.7 L/100km), then after 1,4k miles or somewhere abouts, it went up to 29MPG (8.11 L/100km)

    • @michaelferraris2441
      @michaelferraris2441 Před rokem +2

      The Australian XT has a different tune to North America. Less top end power and a flatter mid range so that could account for the difference.

    • @MarksTech
      @MarksTech Před rokem +1

      @@michaelferraris2441 oh wow. Didn’t know that. That’s strange 👀 thanks for correcting me

  • @MotoGuzziMoto
    @MotoGuzziMoto Před 6 měsíci

    You clearly researched and shared some very useful facts in this video. Do more like this and I will watch more of your videos.

  • @wendymontie5660
    @wendymontie5660 Před 2 měsíci +1

    U.S. Outback owner here: ‘21 Touring XT, loving it. But need more road trips, as I’m woefully under normal mileage. It’s an absolute treat to drive. Regards!

  • @vn9528
    @vn9528 Před 7 měsíci +6

    I have a non-turbo 2021. I can confirm from my recent Sydney-Melbourne that the return trip gave me a fuel economy of 6.8L/100Km after following the set highway speed limits. As you guys said, in the city, it is thirsty, though, ranging from 10L/100Km to 13.8L/100Km based on how hard you hit the accelerator. Thanks for the excellent video with good comparisons, as usual.

    • @PineappleSkip
      @PineappleSkip Před 6 měsíci +1

      Agreed, I have non turbo 2021, live in the middle of nowhere, and it has averaged 7.1, with 95% of my driving being rural. Thinking from this review that I don’t need to change.

  • @gregcarr310
    @gregcarr310 Před 11 měsíci +8

    I have a Outback Wilderness (US model) with the 2.4t and hp specs are 260hp (194kw) with 277 ftlbs (375 Nm) of torque. Was interesting to see the Australian model is different. Also for fuel the 2.4t here can run just fine on 87 octane. I know US uses a different calculation for octane fuel octane rating (RON vs AKI) so 91 RON is similar to our 87 Octane. I do really like the 2.4t. Just finished my first year owning it and put about 13k miles on it so far and all I have had to do was a few oil changes, so far so good.

  • @charlesnoska2225
    @charlesnoska2225 Před 8 měsíci

    It's one of the best analyses that I have ever seen.

  • @NGMonocrom
    @NGMonocrom Před 3 měsíci +2

    0-60mph = 9.6 seconds with the non-Turbo. 6.6 *with the Turbo.*
    Absolutely worth it! Might not seem much, but take it from someone who lived with a slow car for years, it is definitely worth the $5K extra. My current vehicle does that in 6.5 seconds. Effortless acceleration. Merging onto highway traffic is easy. I can accelerate away from an oncoming potential accident due to thoughtless other drivers. I can never go back.

  • @alexlawsontas
    @alexlawsontas Před rokem +9

    Great review. Very practical. Would like to have seen the addition of the highway noise levels. Traveling long distances at 110km/hr, having a quieter car is a real bonus.

  • @creaturefeature7850
    @creaturefeature7850 Před rokem +4

    Thanks Tom have to totally agree, had my XT Touring in same colour for two weeks now, just ticking over 1,000ks, best, most comfortable ride I’ve ever owned and I’m a first time Subaru owner.

  • @gregturner_awod
    @gregturner_awod Před rokem

    A fabulously useful review. Great to know the real figures!

  • @craigelliott5028
    @craigelliott5028 Před rokem +4

    Excellent review Tom…awesome real world comparison….XT all the way

  • @DMcOz_Down_Under
    @DMcOz_Down_Under Před rokem +8

    Fascinating comparison, Tom, thanks to you & the team. I'm soon to receive my XT Turbo - my first Subaru. A mate has the N/A version (also MY23), with which he's delighted, and which impressed me enormously. I think I'll be very happy with the extra torque.

  • @tonycoz2309
    @tonycoz2309 Před rokem +18

    Thanks for the review. Let's hope Subaru Australia continue with this new found enthusiasm and bring back the Forester GT/XT

  • @Ancelottiinzaghi
    @Ancelottiinzaghi Před rokem +1

    First time viewer and subscribed. So good to have some IRL sorts of info regarding noise, fuel consumption, running cost and ect. Good job mate.

  • @stuartferguson7947
    @stuartferguson7947 Před rokem +15

    Subaru - thank you for bringing back the XT. Over 17 years I owned both the GT and XT Forester and loved them but drifted away when you discontinued those models - while not currently in the market for a new car the XT Outback would be short listed for a test drive if I was.

  • @janeowenswilks8097
    @janeowenswilks8097 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Thanks for this video. It was a major part of my decision making and test driving. You addressed all the questions - to XT, or not to XT.
    After taking both on the same test drive , the XT is the car you expect the model to be. Effortless, easy, nimble, capable. The 2.5 on test drive was able, but under strain when accelerating on hills. The 2.5 is a fine vehicle if your driving is the suburban shuffle , as a capable versatile wagon , suburban driving , ready for the occasional holiday, a great out of zone picnic- I would have picked it for the savings. Car and fuel.
    I really liked your noise and fuel comparisons. Importantly , the get up and go comparisons.
    The reality is - what did I need?
    My drive includes frequent highway driving- passing trucks, overtaking 4x4 caravans, avoiding driver pullouts on hills, needing that torque at 2500rpm to escape driver error (mine and theirs), and sometimes Im quite loaded. I do suburban also- work and back- but out of every month the majority of kms is mixing it with the milieu on the highway.
    I have taken delivery of my XT - it is the right car. Averaging 8.3l/100 as mixed suburban and highway kms. Im using a fuel app to source the best fuel prices for the premium fuel. Dont be put of by the fuel stats- THE REVIEW IS RIGHT- The XT is surprisingly fuel efficient.
    I have become fast friends with my Subaru Outback XT.
    This video breakdown really does reflect the differences in the 2 vehicles.

  • @shaobubu
    @shaobubu Před rokem +7

    Love this type of comparison review! Very constructive and helpful. Keep that coming please. Thanks!!!

  • @Bonham1911
    @Bonham1911 Před 5 měsíci

    Thanks for this great video. I have been debating but this convinced me that the XT is absolutely the way to go. 😊

  • @MacXcode
    @MacXcode Před 29 dny

    The 2 comparison reviews are spot on!

  • @rossmangano414
    @rossmangano414 Před rokem +15

    Great review. I drive previous gen diesel and the 350nm torque, the same as the new XT, really makes it a relaxing vehicle to drive. The turbo XT should be the standard offering in my opinion in the current gen since the demise of the diesel.

  • @gary6361
    @gary6361 Před 10 měsíci +14

    I’ve had a non-turbo outback for five years now. Great car, but when loaded up you start to notice the lack of power. Especially if you start climbing up in elevation as well. Going for the turbo for the next one!

    • @ColdSprite
      @ColdSprite Před 6 měsíci

      I notice it without being loaded. I feel like there’s a huge lag in the 40mph mark

  • @planetfabulous5833
    @planetfabulous5833 Před 4 měsíci

    I love his vids - he's fab! I'm subscribing!

  • @juelcome
    @juelcome Před rokem +1

    Really good review, You have dispelled some myths regarding these two and I am pleasantly surprised....Cant wait for mine.

  • @markdare9814
    @markdare9814 Před rokem +33

    Excellent review thanks Tom. I took delivery of my Touring XT a couple of weeks ago and can attest to the reasonable fuel economy. On a 500 km trip last weekend the car returned 8.4 litre per 100km combined highway and urban driving. I note some concerns about the CVT from a comment below, and to that I can only say that the CVT is not only a real gearbox but is probably the best gearbox for this engine. The power delivery is so smooth I have to wonder if there is a gearbox there at all. This car is a joy to drive in every respect, and a huge refinement over my previous 2017 2.5i Outback Premium. Cheers.

    • @sgtkabukiman9411
      @sgtkabukiman9411 Před rokem +4

      Technically, it's more of a pulleybox. ;-)

    • @deningman
      @deningman Před 3 měsíci

      There are literally no gears! It's a transmission. I know as I just had to replace mine after only 75000kms. Well Subaru thankfully paid for it. (15k cost)

    • @scotty932096
      @scotty932096 Před měsícem

      @@deningmanwhat model is your car mate?

    • @deningman
      @deningman Před měsícem

      @@scotty932096 2018 outback

  • @daffman1
    @daffman1 Před rokem

    Great video! I was really curious about the XT. Thanks for such an honest and informative review.

  • @MrPian0Mann
    @MrPian0Mann Před 3 měsíci

    Over in USA, we have the Onyx trim level which has the XT. I just got one and I'm loving it. I drove the non-turbo version and it sounded significantly louder, as you covered in your video. Turbo was definitely quieter and packed more of a punch. Very fun daily driver that doesn't break the bank.

  • @rodchisholm4790
    @rodchisholm4790 Před rokem +1

    Good, comprehensive & useful review, thanks. I'm selling my 4yo Le Vorg STi soon for the XT described. It's been a great car, one of the best cars I've had, and there's been a few. It hasn't missed a beat. Good mate is about to take delivery of Outback XT so excitement looms. Thanks again.

  • @phx4669
    @phx4669 Před rokem

    Great review and on point.

  • @HantaoCui
    @HantaoCui Před 4 měsíci

    Got the turbo after watching your video. Love it! Thank you!!!

  • @markhamer5112
    @markhamer5112 Před rokem +2

    This comparison is the type I like: Ask a question then answer it with verifiable measurements. I like it so much that I’ve subscribed to the channel.
    Too many reviews ask a question and then do not answer it. Or if they do answer the question that got me to watch the video, they only give their own subjective preference without doing any verifiable tests.

  • @jimr549
    @jimr549 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I bought a 24 Crosstrek because it didn't have a turbo. It's the limited with the 2.5 getting as much as 35mpg(US) on the highway. Calculated, not from the trip computer which is pretty accurate. Couldn't be happier.

  • @frankchmielewski4568
    @frankchmielewski4568 Před rokem +22

    Thanks for the interesting review. After much research we’ve opted to buy an Outback XT. It’s amazing how few cars have a full sized spare - this was a big factor for me.
    Can I check which driving mode you were using (sport or “I” ) when testing fuel consumption? Also do you know what tire pressure you were running? Thanks!

    • @chasingcars
      @chasingcars  Před rokem +4

      We were using I mode rather than sport mode

    • @chasingcars
      @chasingcars  Před rokem +5

      Tyre pressures were precisely as per the light load placard

  • @user-lm5tk7zo5g
    @user-lm5tk7zo5g Před 11 měsíci

    Looking forward in getting mine

  • @drumaasepp9899
    @drumaasepp9899 Před rokem +11

    Great content Tom. Really appreciate the level of detail you did for this. It makes me feel a bit better about my nerdy spreadsheets cataloging and comparing cars in this way 😂 I also want to highlight that during the Outback 3.6r years, that car was constantly was reviewed as ‘the H6 is better than the 4 but you’re probably fine getting the 4’. Looking at you John Cadogan. Then Subaru didn’t bring the 2.4t to Australia initially and all the AU journalists had conniptions about Subaru going soft when they’d literally recommended the public not to opt for the premium engine. So. Long way of saying thank you for having an honest opinion based on objective facts and laying it all out. I’d love to see more videos like this. Maybe when it comes to Aus the Cx-60 diesel vs the petrol real world figures?

  • @gustavoivanflores4949

    Great review Thanks !

  • @johnniewalker8568
    @johnniewalker8568 Před rokem +3

    Thanks for the great and valuable review. Exact what I need. Good job guys.

  • @nightowldickson
    @nightowldickson Před rokem

    Brilliant review - jam-packed with useful information and break downs!

  • @Ira-jm2qh
    @Ira-jm2qh Před 9 měsíci

    Love the xt. Wouldn't have purchased the Outback without it.

  • @tommyyau2518
    @tommyyau2518 Před rokem +2

    Very unique / independent reviews ; please keep on your outstanding comments . Thank you !

  • @vinayrajdev
    @vinayrajdev Před měsícem

    I have the XT, and 3 years later, I am still enjoying driving the car.

  • @andrewphillips2520
    @andrewphillips2520 Před rokem +2

    incredibly helpful video, thanks guys.... surprised with the urban fuel economy of the XT!

  • @dedclownsRfunny
    @dedclownsRfunny Před rokem

    I’ve driven my 2023 XT four times now so hardly a long term trial. But I have driven it to a 3 night camp up the Blue Mountains. I love it. It got over some gnarly rises, through a small creek, over some potholes etc. when I was crawling over that camping “driveway” and in Easter holiday mountain traffic (lots of stop start, without the auto stop feature turned on) I was being told I would get 360km from the full tank. Once I got down onto the M4 and the drive was smooth and constant it read just under 1100kms. That was after an 1.5hr of driving down as well. Driving sensibly while I’m running it in.
    I’ll be towing a small caravan soon, and I don’t regret the extra $5k at all. Resale will be stronger as well

  • @carj9
    @carj9 Před rokem +1

    It’s been a month since I got my XT exact color and mode . Love it and will keep this for a long time ❤.

  • @paulfecser7062
    @paulfecser7062 Před 6 měsíci

    We have a 2021 XT driving in four seasons in Ontario, Canada. AWD inspires a lot of confidence in snow and sleet, and rain. Never been stuck. No problem on unpaved secondary roads either. The XT is very quick and responsive and never feels like it is straining, even on long uphill grades or when packed up for holiday trips. And there is a ton of room inside for gear when the back seats are folded down.
    The XT is smooth and quiet, and the ride tuning is on the plush side, Build quality is first rate. Seats are very comfortable and supportive. No squeaks or rattles after two years of driving. Apart from regular oil changes, no trips to the dealer or garage. The CVT works fine although I would prefer a conventional transmission. But I suspect most people buying a vehicle like this will not care.
    Overall averaging just under 10L per 100 km on I would say 70 per cent city driving. In my experience on highway cruising it drops to 8 L per 100 km or even much better depending on speed and driving style.
    A few niggles about some of the touchscreen controls. Increasing or decreasing fan speed requires a very precise jab of your finger in a small area of the touchscreen and I would much prefer physical buttons for this. To be fair there are a number of dedicated buttons for front defrost, side defrost, and increasing or decreasing temperature settings. And there are buttons for tuning the infotainment system. Heated seat require a two stage menu operation but I see this has been fixed on newer models. So good overall.

  • @donnymac575
    @donnymac575 Před rokem +15

    I've got a 2023 XT and yes it's worth it 😊.

    • @JasonISF
      @JasonISF Před rokem +2

      Tell that to my Mrs who has a 2021 touring NA and says "we don't need a turbo" 😅
      When I drive it I beg to differ!

    • @chrisbennett1037
      @chrisbennett1037 Před 2 měsíci +1

      our(USA) has 260HP im not sure if there is a reason its got15HP more(different ways of calculation or what) but I think the thing the 260 HP version(XT) does is make up for the underpowered 182 HP standard engine.and the CVT, i think the LOW HP engine+CVT=sluggish the XT260HP = non sluggish

  • @SoupA150
    @SoupA150 Před rokem +1

    Excellent detailed review. Thanks.

  • @Valdismith
    @Valdismith Před 5 měsíci

    Finally almost only decent video I found ,where someone gave decent data on the car/s even more, they compared the XT to the non-turbo. I just want a bit more handling, pushing in the corners, over very nice and bad road(where he said it performs well-usual for Subaru chassis on bumpy roads). My old 2010 Forester is flawed with 2.0 no-turbo 150hp engine, but at least when I swerve the wheel the front follows like it dances! I agree with everything he said 100%, but I was wondering why the non-turbo takes time to react after steering input (non Subaru chassis characteristic), but the turbo is much better because of engine placement? This is interesting to me, as the boxer usually lays low between your pillars/ between your front wheels:)

  • @adammuftar9697
    @adammuftar9697 Před rokem

    Great review. Keep up the good work.

  • @wosamosman9814
    @wosamosman9814 Před rokem

    Honestly the only channel I see that compares different engines of the same model .
    Greta job guys 😊

  • @karenandvlad
    @karenandvlad Před rokem

    Excellent review thank you.

  • @scottanthony3426
    @scottanthony3426 Před rokem +2

    Great job with your review. You covered so many of the critical bases, which other reviewers tend to overlook. I'm in the US, so models and things are perhaps not identical, but I'm the "how does it look 10 years later" guy here. In late 2013, I was shopping 2014 Foresters and had to make the decision on XT vs non-turbo. At that time, the base XT was identically priced to the non-Turbo limited. So, for the same money as the XT, I could have had leather, and an auto-closing rear hatch. In my XT, I got cloth seats and a manual hatch. However, I also got 250 HP with 258 lb-ft of torque, 18" wheels instead of 17", larger brakes, a better suspension (I drove the non-turbo and it had a lot more body roll), a totally different front fascia, X-Drive and paddle shifters. Mine takes premium gas vs regular. So, 9.5 years and 108,000 miles later, I have zero regrets. The twin scroll 2.0l engine has been flawless. I also get 3 drive modes ("Intelligent", sport, and sport sharp) and a manual shift option with paddles. I thought I'd be using the paddles a lot, but quickly realized that the Sport Sharp is actually pretty good. It noticably amps up throttle tip in response, and "learns" what you are doing. If you are driving it aggressively in Sport Sharp, it will hold lower "gears" longer to keep it in the higher torque RPM range. It has torque in spades, and does 0-60 in the low 6 second range. I'm starting to think about what will replace it, and sadly, all the Forester's sold here now have the doggy 184 HP engine. (Amazingly, the orange piping on the "Sport" doesn't add any HP or torque. Yes, that is my "bitter sarcasm font"). So, if I had to do it this model year, I'd be looking at one of the XT flavors in the Outback. FOr the money, it is a heck of a good value. Looking at the US "Onyx XT" it is about $39K (USD), which is about 9k more than I paid for my Forester in '13. The towing capacity is greatly increased, it has heated seats, and all the safety features that mine doesn't. Interesting that your "Sport" doesn't have a sun roof. I'd be happy to not pay extra for a sunroof that I barely ever use.

  • @damnhockey
    @damnhockey Před rokem

    great review

  • @wharrison7131
    @wharrison7131 Před 10 měsíci

    Purchased the 2.5 and have no issues.

  • @stephenbartlett4132
    @stephenbartlett4132 Před rokem +4

    I currently own a 2021 Subaru Outback Sport and in the lead up to making the decision to purchase back in 2021, I made extensive enquiries as to whether a Turbo version would be released in OZ, but was told emphatically NO. On hearing the news of release of the XT, I ordered a Sport XT and will take delivery in late May 2023, for reason of the increased performance of the XT, greater towing capacity and the all round better touring capabilities of the XT for OZ conditions. Thank you for comparative video which has fully validated my reasons and decision to change over to the Sport XT Turbo. And yes, as suggested I may remove the XT Badge just to fool those who may underestimate me at traffic lights and lane changes.

  • @ichabodjones65
    @ichabodjones65 Před rokem +2

    mines on the docks .didnt even look at the non turbo. im excited . hurry up give me my car

  • @user-iu1rl3go6g
    @user-iu1rl3go6g Před rokem

    Great review Tom. I can't quite believe that this review has delivered these fuel economy results. I am in the market currently looking at outbacks and this criteria is a critical one for us, which left me assuming the Turbo option wouldn't even be under consideration. Do other owners get similar fuel results as suggested in the video? Primarily we will be driving urban, is it really more efficient and cost effective to go for the turbo over the 2.5?

    • @magsm8682
      @magsm8682 Před rokem

      My 2023 Outback Touring XT averages 26.8 mpg in mixed driving during morning and afternoon rush hour on relatively flat roads in busy urban area. The stiffer ride absorbs bump well. No regrets.

  • @joshuanicholson420
    @joshuanicholson420 Před rokem +1

    Really glad your doing a towing test, really really curious how xt goes. And I’m only looking at a 7x4 box around 600kg. But lots of long trips.

  • @cameronsanderson7924
    @cameronsanderson7924 Před rokem

    Hi, Thanks for the review. Its good to finally get some real cross assesment and actual real world data. Congratulations as none of your competitors have looked at this and so just quote the manufacturer numbers. I was put off a bit by the XT fuel economy, but will now give it another look.
    I also look forward to the tow review you mention as the XT should be good for smaller campers. When looking at towing though, can you please also quote the towball load capacity (in addtion to the overall load) as many of the SUV's might have circa 2000kg, but a towball capcity around 100kg thats below teh ball load for many of the campers out there.
    Further fuel economy when towing would also be great. By experience this varies hugely depending on load, the speed you cruise at and things on the van such as bikes/surfboards. We tow with a Prado and small camper and if fully loaded with gear on a 110km freeway and a headwind it can drink 15-16lt/100km. However when cruising at 100km/h and without the bikes on top of it, it drops to around 13lt/100km.
    FInal thoughts is would be great to see more cross assesments like this within model ranges. ie Hybrid v diesel v petrol as many of us cross shop within a range...
    Thanks

  • @davidwayne9982
    @davidwayne9982 Před 9 měsíci

    I was a pro tow driver for many years--- NOT going to be towing AnYTHING ever again.. I'm liking your video-- I'm comparing this to MAZ CX-50 and RAV4... any opinions on these-- since you've probabaly tested the others there too???? I won't be driving a lot-- just want capability when out in case the weather turns bAD-- we've had lots of terribly bad wet/icy winters here lately and are expecting the next few to be BAD--- that's what I want it for-- maybe a dirt road or two a year-- but won't be driving al that much either..

  • @MtnXfreeride
    @MtnXfreeride Před 2 měsíci +1

    That premium fuel requirement must be an australia requirement? In the US its listed as using regular and premium when towing.

  • @michaelgl61
    @michaelgl61 Před rokem +5

    My turbo arrives next week, can't wait

  • @J.Young808
    @J.Young808 Před rokem

    I have a 2005 Outback XT manual. I need to do some work on it. My friend that has a built Legacy turbo says he thinks there is a vacuum leak somewhere.
    I bought my XT from a friend who lifted it 1 inch (254mm) and I put some Method rims and Falken AT tires.

  • @marksandstrom4248
    @marksandstrom4248 Před rokem +1

    I can't give any comparison data, but I have very careful (for a layman owner) fuel economy data for my 2017 Forester XT 2.0 turbo US model, owned since new, now 92,000 miles. I've done constant-speed 15-mile loops in an empty rural area without traffic interference, returning to my starting spot each time to cancel out elevation and wind. Also, I'm correcting the trip computer for actual gas purchased, and for odometer error. My car gives 6.5 L/100km at 50 mph (80 kph), 7.6 L/100km at 60 mph (97 kph), and 9.0 L/100km at 70 mph (112 kph). My lifetime overall consumption is now 10.6 L/100km. I live in an urban residential neighborhood, but the car has been as far as 7000 km away from home on a trip.

  • @stephenrosenfeld833
    @stephenrosenfeld833 Před rokem +16

    I've owned three Foresters here in eastern Canada, all with the 2.5 naturally aspirated engine and loved all three (2009, 2014, & 2019). Each one was a marked improvement over the previous one. I thought I had no need for the turbo and was a bit concerned about its reliability and lifespan. While waiting for an oil change for my Forester at the dealer last year, I chatted with the sales manager. He said that because of the shortage of computer chips and hence new cars, used cars were worth a lot more than usual. He offered me a crazy trade-in price so I got a new Outback Wilderness ('22), which comes with the turbo. Despite my original misgivings, I'll never go back! The Wilderness is geared a bit lower than the standard Outback, and comes with slightly more aggressive tires, but it still rides like a luxury car and is quiet inside. Except for too many menus on the large dash screen instead of physical switches, it is just about perfect for me. The extra ground clearance and full sized spare offers extra reassurance on logging roads when I go fishing, but honestly, my old Foresters were more than good enough for that too. Still, better driving on urban and country roads too? No contest!

    • @ChristianRunsNY
      @ChristianRunsNY Před rokem

      The wilderness is great, I have a loaner of the Forester Wilderness now and I want one. I prefer the Forester screen without that big tablet also, it's too few buttons for me.

    • @stephenrosenfeld833
      @stephenrosenfeld833 Před rokem

      @@ChristianRunsNY I wanted the Forester Wilderness too - it's a better size for me, but it wasn't available at the time and the dealer said he couldn't give me that great trade-in price if I waited too long. Plus I really wanted to try a turbo before I got too old, and it wasn't available in the Forester. Now that I've got used to the Outback, I may continue on with them.

  • @tedd177
    @tedd177 Před rokem +1

    A review on towing would be great. If you can do it on a boat as well. Putting the boat in and out @ the ramp. Caravan would be great as well. Thanks.👍😎

  • @daveemery1091
    @daveemery1091 Před rokem +1

    Love to see the towing figures for fuel consumption and general tow capability.

  • @teresalimon6924
    @teresalimon6924 Před 20 dny +1

    I’m deciding now

  • @wynekararuu5941
    @wynekararuu5941 Před rokem

    One great thing is more interesting review…soon am opting to buy out back xt zero mileage and test it here in kenya….🇰🇪🇰🇪🇰🇪🇰🇪

  • @Antonio-qd4ms
    @Antonio-qd4ms Před rokem +1

    This comparison is awesome, especially when you checked the cabin noise level with the decibel meter. Could you do a Volvo XC40 B4 vs B5?

  • @simpleman5494
    @simpleman5494 Před 10 měsíci

    What is the reason for the service of the turbo being cheaper ? And why is the service interval shorter in distance ?

  • @randyreynolds1045
    @randyreynolds1045 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Absolutely yes❤

  • @jeffg4531
    @jeffg4531 Před rokem +3

    I struggle to appreciate reading of 10L/100km as I have only owned diesels for the last 20 years and my Sorento sport+ averages 7L/100Kms on mix of city and country or 5.9L/100Km on country driving. Living in Bendigo and travelling 500 kms to Melbourne and normal distance travel to home The diesel is definitely the winner for country mileage. I think it would be great to drive the XT for the power but I wish Subaru still made the diesels which suit more of the high country mileage. I agree it will be good to see the turbo added to the Forester. Maybe a second weekend car outside the main driver.

  • @JR-hy2mq
    @JR-hy2mq Před 5 měsíci

    Just bought my wife the Outback Touring XT. Without a doubt drove both of them and I felt there was a major difference. There would be no way I would even go with the the non turbo. I don’t worry about if it uses more gas it’s about the drive and power

  • @aussiefarmer6012
    @aussiefarmer6012 Před rokem +3

    Top review and conclusion. You can never have too much power or torque, just makes for a more relaxed drive.

    • @petethehawk5186
      @petethehawk5186 Před rokem +1

      Lol only if you’re willing to part with several grand extra for it.

    • @aussiefarmer6012
      @aussiefarmer6012 Před rokem

      @@petethehawk5186 yes they are dearer but some people won't buy the non turbo even if it was half the price, just too underpowered.

  • @forgetfulduck
    @forgetfulduck Před rokem +1

    The fuel consumption comparison is similar to what i experienced when I owned both a MY09 2.5L wrx and a MY08 2.5 na outback. The outback despite being non turbo, returned urban fuel economy nearly identical to my wrx, which i often loved accelerating in, more often then not.

  • @martinburns342
    @martinburns342 Před rokem +2

    Nice review Tom. Did you run the NA version on 91 or 95 RON fuel? The power figures Subaru quote are for 95 RON if you read the fine print in the specifications. Was there much difference in the transmission performance? The XT uses a heavy duty CVT.

    • @chasingcars
      @chasingcars  Před rokem +1

      We ran both cars on 98 octane to keep the measurements consistent.

  • @alanr.spector8197
    @alanr.spector8197 Před 11 měsíci

    I have 2021 Outback Onyx XT (USA). The US version does not require premium fuel. Interesting that the Australian spec version requires it. Same engine

  • @dunntawkin213
    @dunntawkin213 Před rokem

    Interesting to see a review on models for a different country. My 2022 wilderness trim outback in the states comes with the turbo.
    The motor here uses regular not premium fuel. I am averaging 22 to 23 mpg.
    This is my ninth Subaru and I will not ever get another non turbo again, the normally aspirated just does not have the power needed.
    I would actually like to see them move away from the CVT as it's just garbage overall. We have a 2013 Legacy which has a normal automatic and the performance and fuel mileage are better than anything we have with the CVT.
    You do not have a wilderness trim option in Australia?
    Nice review for your part of the world.

  • @jamesdarcy3902
    @jamesdarcy3902 Před 11 měsíci

    I have a 2015 USA Outback, 208,000Kms. and has been an excellent vehicle 8.0L/100KM overall. I am not sure about the long term reliability and longevity of the turbo version, including all the extra stress on the CVT transmission.

  • @georgevidas8256
    @georgevidas8256 Před rokem +1

    Hey guys I really enjoyed this review. I have a 2022 Outback Touring and now I want an XT! I have noticed my 2.5 motor seems to get better economy using premium fuel. Could this be a factor in your interesting fuel economy figures?

  • @buhomorado
    @buhomorado Před měsícem +1

    The turbo engine in the U.S. has 260 h.p. and uses regular gas/petrol.

  • @lachlancook6718
    @lachlancook6718 Před rokem +4

    This is what I've been waiting for

  • @user-dy2wu3zv2q
    @user-dy2wu3zv2q Před 28 dny +1

    I have a non turbo and get 6.8-7.8 l/100 around town and 5.8-6.3 on freeway

  • @MM-yy9ib
    @MM-yy9ib Před 10 měsíci

    Just got a 24 XT in green. Had a 22 Outback Premium, which I traded in fir a 23 Ascent Onyx. Mpgs on the Ascent are the worst ever. 14-17 city. The other day I was reading 13.1 mpg. So traded that in on the. 24 Outback XT. Im an Outback guy at heart.

  • @doctordryan
    @doctordryan Před rokem +5

    Would love to see an offroad Outback video.

  • @waynelust9431
    @waynelust9431 Před 5 měsíci

    I use regular fuel in my XT in Canada. No need for premium. Wonder why the difference?

  • @neilcharters5677
    @neilcharters5677 Před rokem

    been waiting 8 months for my XT. It's almost here!!! Thanks for clearing up the fuel economy issue. I'll refer non believers to your review. Drove the non turbo and placed an order but as soon as I heard the XT was coming changed the order. Knew i wouldn't regret it.

  • @jonleexz
    @jonleexz Před rokem +6

    I pre-ordered my XT last Sept. and got it in January, the dealer said that maybe the first XT hitting the road. I was wondering how the fuel economy different from the NA version and good to see your video that I made a right choice... For urban the display always shows the fuel consumption is around 13-13.5L/100km.
    Bad news is my XT got rear-ended 2 weeks after I got it, and probably the first XT that needs repair 😂

    • @JasonISF
      @JasonISF Před rokem +2

      That seems quite high, you must have a very heavy foot or do lots of short trips.

    • @jonleexz
      @jonleexz Před rokem +1

      @@JasonISF probably short trips mainly, and I live in a hilly district may also increase fuel used?

    • @JasonISF
      @JasonISF Před rokem +2

      @@jonleexz Hills would definitely have a large effect on the consumption. Hope you got it all fixed up 👍

  • @ricksousa3932
    @ricksousa3932 Před 7 měsíci

    I had 2022 non turbo Outback, I now have 2023 Outback Turbo and it's for sure worth it.

    • @jamesparbery5204
      @jamesparbery5204 Před 6 měsíci

      Do you mind me asking what you had to pay for the difference? Have contemplated doing the same.

  • @MrVarvarVoom
    @MrVarvarVoom Před rokem +4

    Thanks for the review. My 2016 Outback 3.6R 6 cylinder is no doubt thirstier, but it goes like the clappers when switched to sports sharp #. The 6 cylinder delivers more kilowatts at around 196kw. Nothing beats it bang for buck.

    • @australianmade2659
      @australianmade2659 Před rokem

      It doesn’t have the torque down low. The kw up high don’t do much. The XT will be faster

    • @stevecrocker6904
      @stevecrocker6904 Před rokem

      @@australianmade2659: mere 10ths in it though. In fact, the U.S. magazine "Car and Driver" has instrumented tests of both cars with the 2018 Outback 3.6 being 2.5 seconds quicker than the turbo to the (old favourite) "100mph" mark. And a higher top speed by about 15kph, but granted, not that speed matters in an Outback.

  • @mdbem-zk1fk
    @mdbem-zk1fk Před 3 měsíci

    Got 2022 Outback with 2.4 turbo. Fuel mileage is 1 mpg less than 2.5 engine because 2.5 works harder at higher rpm at same speed as 2.4. I enjoy the extra power and performance. Also will get higher resale value on 2.4.

  • @videowsatcher
    @videowsatcher Před rokem +1

    lower stress vs impact of turbo on the engine and turbo replacement cost? I am not convinced by Subie Quality. Friend with a 2017 Outback recently faced a broken rear axle. On my 2017 transmission failed; thankfully within the 6 year extended warranty I got it with (would be in trouble if I had todays standard 5 years with no extension option). Also, my sunroof leaks when parked on an angle; the dealer cannot find the issue however, they have agreed to replace my infotainment unit whose Bluetooth is periodically failing. I have also had my steering wheel replaced. All up, there's probably 8k+ repairs either done or awaiting to be done.