The Verdict Is In | Solving The Issues With The MT 82 Transmission
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- čas přidán 26. 10. 2017
- miles are done, the transmission and clutch are broken in. Have we finally solved the issues with this transmission?
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It's the clutch. Expanding and flexing at high rpm not decompressing and letting you shift. It kinda pushes the peddle back at you. Put a mantic. The high rpm lock out is over. Not the shift forks are weak also.
Ford has come out and said its that inner blue area of the flywheel that causes issues. I was told to replace the clutch, flywheel and it will solve 90% of potential issues. Also, throwing a MGW shifter and 1 piece driveshaft will help too. The stock shifter is decent though. I think its a barton?
Instead of changing transmissions, Ford doubled down and denied they had problems, denied people's claims, and overall didn't support their customers. I can't believe they didn't go back to Tremec. They ruined an otherwise great car.
Just like they tried to do with the dual clutch junk.
They did the same thing with the Voodoo engine in the GT350. They released a "revised" Voodoo, but its still a crapshoot with reliability.
All the 5.0's from 2015 on should have got the Tremec after seeing what people went through with the first gen's, and all the complaints.. But the real tripple down was with the Gen 3 2018's too..
I have a 13 Boss - huge issues when cold with shifting - is this the Boss parked in Richmond in the Ironwood/Horshoe way area ?
Great update..
Do the dyno before and after the engine upgrades ☺
We will for sure do another dyno pull soon.
@@SeanMcGuigan thanks for the video. Do you know any rebuild kit making the MT82 beefy? Or any rebuilding kit out there your recommend?
Unfortunately, the car is overseas.
quick tip - use ur key to lock that storage spot ur elbow keeps opening LOL
+Dipstick Motorsports 😂 I had a good laugh today when I noticed what you are talking about. Thanks for the tip never noticed the lock before. Thanks for watching.
I literally don’t think I’ve ever opened it with my elbow. I do lock it when I have my dog as he likes to open it.
I didn't get lock out but I am still low miles though.. I did the Steeda Stock shifter Bracket and the Trans insert.. I have a lot of NVH now.. I am going to pull the trans insert and see if the noise calms down along with the cabin vibration too.. I hope it does.. People are telling me it's the insert that is causing the most NVH and not the Steeda Bracket. I am under 11,000 and the stock shifter wasn't that bad even with the stock bracket.. I can see how over time the rubber gets worse and shifts get more sloppy.. But I am going to pull that trans insert out and see how I like it like that.. I already have syncro II ready to go.. I will be putting fresh syncro II in when I do the next oil change.. Also I noticed that it takes the MT82 a while to warm up.. Like a half Hr. into driving and the trans and sycro's seem to smooth out..
Didn't know you had a Saleen... nice! Glad to hear your problems with the clutch/tranny have been solved to this point.
Thanks Doug! Time will tell if it holds up. Can't wait to take her back to the track and really test this thing out.
Clutch shifter and fluid and it's perfect
Change the clutch out and it will fix pretty much everything. The MT82 is actually VERY GOOD once the clutch is changed out for a better one.
Which clutch for the MT82 do you recommend?
anything not stock lol @@Whotta
I found double clutching between gears when the transmission is cold makes going into gears smooth and easy on the gearbox. Works on my 2012 Boss
Great advise I will try that as well.
Better fluid fixes cold notchyness. Double clutching is unnecessary with synchronized boxes.
Mike unnecessary on most synchronized gearboxes. I just found on a cold MT82 Double clutching helps until everything is warm. After that shift normally.
Erik Ressdorf yeah. That would frustrate me. I just switched to Amsoil and no longer have that problem.
I' think if buy the stage 1 clutch there are some brand where you feel pedal of clutch softer and changing gear will be smooth too if you think those old formula 1 car from 80 to 90 you can see the struggle to change gear but they do like 70 laps racing so changing clutch will fix 90% of the time.
As far as my research goes all the issues is do to the stock clutch, once you upgrade to a good clutch the transmission holds fine
Well nice to know you got it rebuilt my ford...they didn't with mine. I had 19 K on the transmission and I had to rebuilt it out of pocket..so waiting to go back to a challenger SRT 392. (also I have to sit side saddle because the clutch peddle travel is too long for me)
Were you out of warranty or what?
How is the clutch holding now that it's been a while since this video came out lol. I also had my trans rebuilt by Ford but didn't change out the clutch during the repair. Howerver, I'm in the market for a clutch now because it locked me out of 2 a few times so I don't want to risk the transmission again. Thx
I have a whine on 6th gear when i have my foot on the accelerator pedal .. is that normal?
I see many comments stating that people who opt for swapping the Getrag MT82 for a TR6060 OR TREMEC XL MAGNUM are unable to drive manuals. I have one question, what transmission is found in the 2010-2014 GT500s and the 2016-2020 GT350s?
It’s not that, I have a Tremec TR-6060 in my 2010 Chevrolet Camaro SS. Even their stock factory builds aren’t perfect either. 5th gen (10-15) manual Camaro’s and similar like the 08-10 C6 base manual Corvette, and 08-09 Cadillac CTS-V, are plagued, with stock gearbox, clutch, and master cylinder issues.
The Camaro shares a master cylinder with the brakes and clutch together…. The brake fluid boils in the brakes, and the clutch material from the slave cylinder design also contaminates the brakes too, as does the brake contamination in and of itself to the clutch. The overheating brake fluid if keeping the shared fluid reservoir, causes the clutch pedal to lose hydraulic pressure and not return to the top fully; causing further issues like a dragging clutch or grinding gears.
Aside from that, earlier 2009-2010, and even some rumored 2011 Camaro SS’ have the crappy PAPER-lined synchronizer rings, which tended to fail when driven hard, let alone TRACK driven… I’ve so far also had clutch chatter on inclines, which doesn’t affect performance too much besides noise and such. Gear changes are good because I’ve flushed the trans and rear diff. I run the proper gear oil/ATF that is spec’d above standard for my trans. I also plan to change the trans fluid/gear oil every avg oil change, which for me, is around 9-10k miles.
Even in my older Honda/Acura MT’s with lighter clutches and flywheels, but semi-durable gearboxes/trannies, I always changed my gear oil (no ATF for these) with every other oil change (5-8k) and felt that this was very worth it. Early, preventative maintenance might be costly, but you are already driving an average $25-30k+ priced car, so….. If you can’t maintain the car, don’t beat on it or you’ll regret it….
I LOOOOOOOOVE my 285/30/18 Continental ExtremeContact Sport tires (yes ExtremeContact as 1 word) the 06 that you said are great too but the Sport is the newest... also, need to get my 3rd transmission fixed again, what all did you say got done on yours to fix the issues?
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Although unrelated to the transmission, how tall are you? I'm thinking about purchasing a Boss 302 and was wondering about visibility. Are they easy to see out of? I'm 5'6"
Hi Daniel. I am 6’1”.Great visibility. The Recaro seats have height adjustments as well.
@@SeanMcGuigan Thank you so much for the response!
I've heard Alex Flores liked the Barton short throw before he went to a T56 in his 2011 Mustang GT.
Thanks I will look into it for sure.
97jag440 Barton’s, including the hybrid 3, are still body mount.
97jag440 I have the MGW race spec and its not any better that the barton. If the trans is notchy, its the unit itself being a POS.
Alan Davies if it’s notchy all the time the trans is probably borked. If it’s notchy while cold, just use the Amsoil cocktail and it’ll be good.
Mike what is borked?
What dies the amsoil cocktail consist of?
Does anybody have any advice on beefing up the clutch pedal assembly? I recently did a high RPM pull and now it has a little play at the top of the range on the pedal? Like I have to pull it back with my foot about 80% of the time
Did you happen to figure this out? Mine does the same thing.
MGW race spec is great. Installed it about a month ago, much much better feel barely noticeable difference in noise and vibration.
Thanks for the feedback!
What rpm can you shift with the MGW race spec in your Boss 302 if you don't mind me asking..? Thx
What exhaust is on that car?!?
Cool guy
I bought a warranty online through Endurance a month after I got my 2012 Boss 302. Ive had the car for almost 3 months now and I took it in 2 weeks ago because I was having issues with the gears. My fifth gear was grinding every single time unless the RPMs were perfectly aligned and i was getting locked out of 2nd at high RPMs. I put about 2000 miles on it since I've owned it. Turns out I need a new transmission and a new clutch. I got the Spec stage 2 and aluminum flywheel myself and had to wait for my warranty company. They denied my claim and I got stuck with about a $5k repair bill. I originally thought I couldn't get approved for a warranty through Ford because there was a blacklist and wouldn't warrant the Boss 302 but I just found out that isn't the case. I get my car back in about a week and have to deal with the cost. But I want to know what your thoughts are and what you are doing
Turtleduck5000 I
Turtleduck5000 what a disgrace ford is doing to the brand
I've been driving a manual since I was thirteen, this transmission is the absolute worst. You can't lazy shift with these when getting on the power, have to be firm, but even driving around town sometimes it will grind/lock out from first to second and even third, makes any driver sound like a novice when it grinds.
Only reason you have all those issues is because the stock clutch.. once you replace the clutch it eliminates pretty much everything
It's not just the clutch. The internals use a lot of cheap parts. That transmission is an overall piece of shit.
[][][]MANN it lasted me a till 80k miles then I ended up getting stage 3 Ben calimer
@@djeggroll7675 are you satisfied with it?
@@djeggroll7675 did it last like that completely stock
I changed my clutch to McLeod extreme street clutch 700jp clutch…..still get lockout
looking for a 13-14 gt and I'm starting to realize why autos are so hard to find.
Women love those autos
Ended up with a manual
@@BlazingFaith1945 hows the mt82
@@theory9651 Honestly, it's nowhere near as bad as people make it. I have it as my daily driver and I drive deep in LA traffic, like the real heart of LA where the skyscrapers are at, sometimes it takes me an hour to home from work. Lots of stopping and going and I love manual...
Manual over auto is not a deal-breaker. It's not an issue that is going to cause you frustration. The only situation I can think of where it would annoy the crap out of you is if you are a drag racer.
The high RPM lockout exists, but it's not all the time. Whenever it does happen, it's more like, oh that was weird, let's try again.
I was told my car comes with a stage 2 (assuming twin) clutch and that could be solving most of the issues related to the lockout. I plan on going MGW soon, which I hear also helps eliminate most of the high RPM lockout. but the way it is now is not infuriating in any way.
I also have the BG synchro shift 2 transmission fluid with the special additive. It works wonders and it makes shifting feel so much smoother. I don't think it does anything for the high RPM lockout, but it does feel pretty smooth the first few miles. You totally notice an improvement.
In summary, a twin-clutch and MGW shifter will make it so over 90% of your pulls have no high rpm lockouts. The BG Synchroshift II Transmission fluid makes it so that normal everyday shifting is a LOT smoother.
Finally, if you have the money, just put a Tremec magnum transmission in there to solve the shifting issues 100%.
How much hp ?
Mt82 ftw. Anyone who says upgrade to the tr6060 or t56 at lower power levels cannot drive. Great video man.
Thank you!
That's total bullshit. So the parts break and are defective because your opinion is that the owners "can't drive" Ford must be paying you
[][][]MANN why is it pure garbage? Because you broke your shit set stock power?
[][][]MANN driving mine for 200k miles. Stock no rpm lockout no gear lock out. Its because i can drive manual and get the fluid done every once and awhile
Mt 82 is junk
Hey bro did the dealer give you any shit for mods being done to the car? Saying it was beat on or whatever?
I'm still wondering cause I'm going thru this now?
I wonder what dealer is gonna say to me. Lol
I had a 2021 GT Premium with a manual MT82 transmission. Complete garbage! I could put up with the plastic interior, engine tick and the glitchy electronics, but the drive train was garbage. Kept the GT for 2 months and unloaded it....was a pile of junk. Bought a real car from another manufacturer with a standard TREMEC couldn't be happier...FU FORD!
Maybe China should stick to making car speakers and audio amplifiers instead of making transmissions. They can make quality simple mechanical components such as bearings, CV shafts, and tie rods but, complex mechanical components such as transmissions are a different story.
First, why not get the Continental Extreme Contact Sport?- basically its the new generation DWs and is touted as being significantly better in all aspects and equal to Michelin Pilot Super Sport.
Second- mgw race spec or nothing. MGW even offers a discount if you trade your first gen MGW. MGW race spec is the only fully trans mounted shifter. They also have great customer service.
3rd- the rear x brace hasn’t been shown to increase rigidity in a practical manner. So, that’s not really a loss.
4th- use the Calimer Cocktail for fluid. It works very well. 2 quarts synchromesh and .7 Manual trans lube GL-4. There’s no been any issues with this oil setup.
5th- don’t forget about your diff. That car is old enough it’s time to change it.
Mike dropping the info! Thanks Mike. 1. I bought the dws as I am driving the car year round. It will see light snow. 2. Your right I am planning on getting that shifter. I did not know they had an upgrade program. I will reach out to them so thank you. 3. I see your point. I will put the brace back in when the car gets a roll bar. 4. Will keep that in mind. I plan on doing that just in the new year. 5. Diff was done when the car got a watts link installed. Thanks for watching!
Sean McGuigan if for use in winter why not get winter tires? Did you know that all seasons lose most of their capabilities below freezing? Even if there’s no snow, winter compound tires have significant grip advantages when the pavement is cold, even without snow/ice. Michelin Xi3 tires are the best winter tire with the Bridgestone Blizzak being best if you have to drive in deep snow. They also have “Performance winter tires” such as the Pirelli Sottozero that have high ratings. Snow tire reviews on RWD cars aren’t easy to find. I did a lot of searching last year and this is what I’ve found. The only time all seasons are acceptable for winter is if they are “snow” rated and have the snow flake on the tire OR you have a 4x4/AWD, although that doesn’t help you stop.
If I were you, I’d do like a lot of us do in Michigan, get a set of winter tires on steel wheels. Ford recommends stock width on the Boss with winter tires but data has shown narrower width in winter yields significant grip in snow over wider tires.
Good luck.
I too use the Calimer cocktail, works great for me.
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You said that you got an overhaul done for free, and then immediately state that you gave "them" a slew of parts that you "didn't cheap out on." Math is math, if you spent money on parts, then it wasn't free... So I call BS on "free." The cherry on top of this video is that Ford dealerships will not replace anything with aftermarket parts, period. So your "rebuild" was not done by a Ford dealer. And if it wasn't done by a Ford dealer, how did you get warranty work done?
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Do you know if a 2014 V6 MT82 will fit a 2014 Mustang 5.0?
Yes, same exact trans
The MT822 is Beef Chow Mein.💀
It must suck driving a muscle car out there
its one version of one car has a kinda bad transmission. Still usable if you know how to drive
Bought 3 boss 302’s I’ll never buy another ford again! Shame on ford for installing that Chinese trans in that car!
Learn how to shift?
SollusPRIME right lol
Its German getrag
Maybe if losers brought all switching the automatic sport but take the risk and buying expensive quality transmission and put in there if more people like manuals
Gmail User has a chinese stamp on it sir
I know this is old but high rpm lockout is always the clutch.
Also, why do you need to change the tune if it’s cold? People, fords ecu logic will adjust
Also Pirellis are hot garbage
What clutch are you running
+Dark Man Spec Stage 1 with a Spec lighten steel flywheel
Glad to see you didn’t get swayed by the hype and waste money on a McLeod RST.
Sean McGuigan , can you give me a part numbers?
Your MT82 Getrag 6 speed has notchy gear changes because the synthetic oil that Ford uses is too good, hence the synchro's are slipping and not engaging. Just add 40cc's of Lubeguard Friction Modifier to the oil... www.lubegard.com/products/lss/
holy fuck when's ford gonna ditch that pos getrag mt82
SORRY FOLKS its not the transmission,m its the shifter being mounted to the body instead of directly to the trans like with the blowfish bracket or an mgw race spec shifter,thats the ONLY thing thats going to cure the high rpm lock out 100% theres nothing wrong with the MT82 its the shifter! you can use the stock shifter with a blowfish bracket and never get locked out of gear at any rpm!!
Sorry man, I'm brand new to mustangs, I just bought my 19 GT last Saturday and tbh I'm new to muscle cars in general. Where can I buy this bracket or does it have to be custom fabricated??
@@johnnymoya6261 lmr.com
tr 6060 swap
MT-82 has way better gear ratios
@[][][]MANN
The MT82 still has better ratios and will beat a TR6060 car all other things being equal.
Mt82 is plagued by being made cheaply in China.
Whats not made in china?
the solution is to not buy one.....
Nah, all manufacturers have their own problems, specially when they make changes.
trade for a camaro
why would anyone buy a mt82 when there is the 10 speed. The new automatic transmission is faster, greener, and better in traffic
Because people will always love manuals. Duh. It's different driving experience
Only retards buy automatic muscle cars....
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@@johnnymoya6261 i concur