How NOT to submit to the 3D challenges.
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- čas přidán 5. 06. 2024
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"Why did my render not make the All Renders Montage?" is probably the biggest question I get during these 3D challenges, so it's about time I made a video showing you exactly how I comb through pass vs. fail renders (technically speaking, not creatively).
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Cool this is my first time participating in your awesome chalenge , i cannot join the discord for some reason so im gonna ask the question here . What format do we submit in ? Thanks!
Frame Rate: 24fps
• Resolution: 1920x810 or 3840x1620 (no other resolutions allowed. Makes judging ROUGH otherwise)
• Frame Count: 120 (1-120)
• File Type: MP4
• Codec: h.264
• File Size: Under 100MB
Hmmm, strange, as you should be able to, but here I got you with the tech specs:
Frame Rate: 24fps
Resolution: 1920x810 or 3840x1620 *(no other resolutions allowed. Makes judging ROUGH otherwise)*
Frame Count: 120 (1-120)
File Type: MP4
Codec: h.264
File Size: Under 100MB
@@lwdesign3743 Thank you !
@@dontkillmejay8570 Thanks i enter everything , but when it ask me to enter the code it tells me its already being used.
@@pwnisher What is a Codec?
In college my professor always said(in regards to film festivals or script writing competitions) "if you can't put the effort in to follow the requested standards, then how do they know you followed the rest of the requirements? They don't care if your project goes in the bin, they have hundreds of submissions. Yours could be the best most artistic piece of art ever arted, but that doesn't matter."
Couldn't have said it better myself. Had a very hard prof during college myself that drilled this mindset into our heads. Still sticks with me to this day. If you are gonna skip out on the basic rules, what other stuff might you try to cut corners on?
Yep had a very similar prof!
That guy was full of gas. Curious what his personal portfolio looked like
Sometimes the most washed up ppl have the most to say about “how to make it”. Judging by their bitterness, maybe it isnt advice you should take.
@Nicole Ham Nothing he said sounds bitter, its just blunt and truthful. As someone who is reasonably successful in the 3D Art world, I couldn't agree with him more.
@@NicoleHam following basic instruction is a necessity in any field.
As harsh as it is, it's totally understandable. One man fixing 100 renders is much worse than 100 people each fixing 1 render.
Add to that the fact that fixing any of the problems with just the end result is a lot harder than setting the right parameters before rendering.
You can argue that FPS is easy to fix if Clint doesn't use the audio, but everything else is not. And if audio does get used, resampling can do weird unintended things. Quality is compromised and it's all avoided by a couple of simple steps before you hit the render button.
It ain't 'harsh' - it's life. If someone can't follow basic, clear directions, that's on them. Nothing harsh about it. Sort ya sh1t out.
I'm not a 3D artist, but I understand video standards. And it blows my mind that so many clearly talented artists would go through all the effort and time to create their art, yet ignore such simple technical details regarding the required format specs. That's crazy.
@@squidge903 Why did you censor yourself? Sort your shit out.
This is how it is in the professional industry. Follow directions and follow protocol and you're going to be two steps ahead of everyone else. These details matter when it comes to production and the limitations are set for very specific reasons. Be specific.
Too true!
@@pwnisher my resolution is 1920-1080 and my frames are 30, can it be a littler over? Like 30 would be better right in frames right or does it absolutely have to be 24 and 1929-1080? Edit: nvm ignor this comment I figured it out.
@@blockwarrior0088 did you even watch the video?!
@@blockwarrior0088dude that’s what’s why the world is going to sh..t. Nobody listens. 😢
@@blockwarrior0088 ffs dude 😑
I have never understood how someone can see a list of standards and then think, "yeah, it's totally cool if I make mine different."
Ignorance? Over-confidence? Idiocy? ... Yer takes yer pick! 🤣
they forgor 💀
There’s an idea among plenty of artists that you should challenge the norm and the standards. Which while yeah I think one should, there’s times and places for them. Submitting something in a way that doesn’t make someone do a needless amount of work to adjust isn’t one of those times or places lol
@@funguy398 how can you forget lol. Its like 3 checkboxes to check .... frame count and framerate and dimensions XD
Good on ya man for holding contestants to the specs, and showing exactly how you are QCing the submissions. This is the level of accuracy and attention to detail required in the industry, no reason this should be different 😄
Those WIP renders looked waaay too good. I'm getting cold feet.
Lets be honest, those people just have way more spare time than most!
@@NFCloud or they're just better
@@NFCloud I have the most spare time yet I can't achieve that yet
if detailed 3D renders aren't your thing, go for style points and make something simpler
@@NFCloud not really, but they do utilize a lot of kitbashing and assets from previous work, also a lot of bought assets, not everybody wants to design and model everything from scrats. also you'd be surprised how fast some people work.
Thanks for posting this video! Always good to reinforce good workflow habits. My animation professors hammered us on specs every assignment. If you can't sweat the small stuff you won't be trusted to sweat the big stuff. Hurts to think that some great artists got rejected on a job application because their render was a fraction off the specs the client was asking for but thems the breaks.
Would be cool merch idea if you made each challenge into a badge. You could collect them like Ash does his gym badges in Pokemon.
I am SO exited to see the results from this render challenge! Your challenge series has to be my favorite on this platform! Getting to see all of the creativity really gives me a boost in motivation!
Thanks so much for doing a vehicle themed challenge. I can't wait to see all the awesome submissions.
Thanks for uploading this! This is my first time competing in any kind of 3D challenge, so this is very helpful! I realize I had some things off that would have put me in the pit of despair. Haha. Thanks!
I love your Bridges hat it's great to see another death stranding fan thank you man I'm sure you're excited for number 2
I'm not a 3D artist, but as a video producer I know this pain and the machinetime I had to throw away to interpolate the footage
Takes 2 clicks of the mouse in unity
@@janeblogs324are these animations made in unity?
DAT Bridges cap 🚀🔥
Awesome stuff again, can't wait to see the results!!
This is the first time I participate in a Challange and it's really fun.
Hope I can finish in time, specially because I'm really sick at the moment.
Good luck to all!
Yoooo, get well and good luck! Hang in there!
I'm in the same boat. Good luck to us both
@@pwnisher Thanks :)
BTW you have a really great and supportive community on your Discord
Excited to enter! Will definitely be double and triple checking my render to make sure it's correct!
I've done this over 5 times already for the boss fight
This is amazing, great job clint
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Cant wait to see the result of this collective effort at work. The samples show here certainly helped wet my appetite.
Yuuuup! All of this makes complete sense. You'd have to do SOOOOOOO much work to make all those 'little' changes!
One day i will catch one of these in time and get a 2d animation in that looks 3d. i love seeing these challenge montages man. so many great artists out there.
Sad I missed this one, but I’ll be ready for the next one!
le pit, I keep forgetting to jump into the DC, was having issues with my animation, but i'ma try to figure it right now. Day off so I finally get to work on some stuff!!! I'll pop on over soon enough. Good luck to everyone submitting, it's been real fun to watch these challenges come together. You lot are a talented bunch! @pwnisher sup my dude see ya around! Take care everyone!
I missed yet another deadline, ugh, spent that last couple of weeks in and out of the hospital, missing time from work, and just got the new job too, dealing with coming back from a concussion, sucks. But I did learn a ton @pwnisher that I did do. You know what's crazy, I took my unfinished render and ran it through gen 1 by runway and got some pretty amazing results, I don't know if that would have been allowed in the challenge but the fact that I was able to turn my Mad Max themed render into something that looks like it came straight out of Mad Max by using AI image style transfer to video, I don't even have to do all the work that Niko and the guys had to do when they made rock paper cross blades! Thanks again Clint I still got out of this what I wanted to and that's to learn as much as I can at the end of the day that's what I look to get out of these challenges, so thanks man I can't wait to see the rest of the renders, I've already seen a ton of awesome ones good luck to everyone and keep crushing y'all
Great video and much needed, I remember i messed this all up when I did my Infinite Journeys submission, if only I had used resolve then!
These renders are sick already
Wow great renders in there already
HOW HAVE PEOPLE MADE **THAT** ALREADY???
I gotta stop wasting time and get to work man 😭
Good luck everyone, can't wait to see the montages this is going to be sick as hell
did you end up submitting one? If so which one?
@@sameez8701 I didn't, the submission date came and went without me realising, I completely forgot about the challenge 😭😭
I'll get the next one though, and now I know whati have to do differently to make it work
Thanks for asking!
Did you submit?
I love your 3D challenges
I've been participating for these challenges since the beginning of 2021 and I really enjoy them
Please don't stop hosting these
That explains why my 120 entries, but only 1 frame each, never gets considered? Thats bogus man, bogus!
not following clear instructions is bogus
@@ohiasdxfcghbljokasdjhnfvaw4ehr it's a joke
REVOLT
Love your videos
And it's not like it's a bunch of technical requirements either.
Just 3: framerate, resolution and length.
In a video montage that's supposed to have identical motion this is super important to have seamless transitions.
A little anxious to finish this challenge, but I'll try!!
Why is youtube specifically recommending me this video that I have no context for. Lmao, I love it
It's so important to adhere to set standards, and it's important to practice that in life. Especially working within technology!
I don't have time to participate, but I appreciate this spotlight on why it's important (since you set the standards!).
what a perfect time to find this video ...hope i join next challenge
My favorite line, "You do not want to be.. in The Pit of Despair. Few artists make it out. Most of 'em.........they're in The Pit tah dis DAY."
4:10
I LOVE THAT WE ARE NOW SAYING PERFORMANCE CAPTURE!!
oh crap I forgot about this challenge
time to start!!
those clips where 1 off might come from them using frame#1 as the starting point (rather than at 0). then they put frame 144 as end point and call it a day, not realizing the total frames rendered will only add up to 143.
I am about to submit. This was fun I wish I had more time to have worked on it.
I love how it's called the pit of despair lol.
that 1st second was so intense i had to watch it 3 times.
please sir dont hurt me
Love the death stranding hat
the dude who was only 2 resolution height away from making it to the montage be like:
I would love to see a video of all the submissions that go into the pit of despair just to see what other people made
What am i also in despairs?
Him: always has been
cant wait so submit my lil scene :D
Only reason I barely do render challenges or collabs.. : you set everything up correctly…it looks exactly as requested in the program and in the file details, you hit render and… the final render after 3-12 hours has missing frames or slightly different resolution or even worse … it is just green or black screen
Performance capture, bro really learned
Seeing a somewhat basic submissions - blew up my mind. I'm so bad at Blender, gonna go KMS
Hey what are the rules on including things that aren't your creation? Such as image textures from the internet, models from quixel megascans, or animation from Mixamo?
I don't even know how to render something like that (the top 100 3D vehicle video)
I just knew an intermediate amount of modelling and tried to do a simple animation (in which it didn't rendered), not to mentioned the damn textures (basically making my Laptop barely alive)
So....any tips that you recommended? Besides I need to get out of the thing called "Tutorial Jail"
nice!
Bro you gonna make me start 3d arts fr
Goddanggit! I won't be able to join this time around, anyways, goodluck to everyone participating and goodluck not to fall in the pit of despair!
It would be cool to see a video made from the pit of despair renders
Hahaha man, that would be like, the hall of shame montage.
Press F for those 2 with good resolution that were sent to the pit...
"Ya tell me about it, my profs pretty strict too."
"Yeah? Who's your teacher"
"Mr. Pwnisher"
"Dafuq?"
I'm not a modeling man myself (we'll see for the future) but my brother's submitting, so looking forward to seeing his render in the montage! (Cuz he's gonna win :D)
can the renders be done in Cycles or EEVEE (can we choose which render engine?)
I've been considering enter these challenges some day.
Just wondering, is it allowed to use shaders, HDRI's and assets from the internet or shall everything be made from the bottom?
not from the bottom
Nobody makes everything from bottom and has time, it's fine
Never seen your content before (besides challenges) and at 0:00 I thought I was about to get an uppercut
question: how do you find or where do you find the area to see what framerate, resolution and fps rules
Don't have a pc or laptop right now ☹, but definitely will create something on the next challenge.
Wish me goodluck 💪.
thats really cool, whats the final date for submission ?
I'm actually curious how people frame rate, and resolution size etc, can get messed up when isn't it part of the original template file?
Ill say it again
Write a script
Create a challenge
Combine all rendering
Create a 40min to 1hr movie
Hey @pwnisher, is it allowed to submit more than one entry? :)
Thought you were going to come in and punch me in the face there.
Im curious what is the software that you should use for this challenge and what minimum system requirements are needed? I have a Ryzen 9 3900X / 64GB Ram / RTX 2080, I currently have been programing and learning Unity and havent yet jumped into Unreal but these challenges really interest me and inspire me to learn this style of animation even if its very simple just wanted to get in the environment and start learning.
I work on an mac youre all good bro
@@atch300 so Unreal Engine is the main software needed for this challenge?
@@frmtheden no, any 3d program. Blender, c4d, maya, unreal, anything. I’m using blender
The main software for the majority of submissions are gonna be blender or c4d
Hey! It's a great opportunity for emerging artists to showcase their works to the public and I'm taking a shot too but I'm not able to submit my render on the form. When i press the submit button, it prompts 'Something went wrong'. Could you please help?
Thanks!!
this looks neat :3 imma do something for this later :3 i have an already silly idea for it more or less :3
Would love to learn how to render/animate like this. I have no idea how to start. At first it´s a little overwhelming and i dont know where to start. I wonder how others got into learning. I finally have a PC good enough 😅
I'd recommend the famous "donut tutorial" by Blender Guru, that's the standard for learning Blender
@@blendermanIII Thank you! Yeah i searched out some creators for some tutorials. BlenderGuru, Josh Gambrell, Ryan King Art, Max Hay, Ducky 3D for example. Lets see where this road will bring me ^^
Hello clint ! I finally composited my work and imported it to Davinci Resolve and the fps is okay frames, count is okay, resolution is okay but the only problem is formate shows as Quicktime even it's a MP4 file and Video Codec shows as H.264 Main L4.0. Is it good to submit ?
I double checked everything and I'm pretty sure it's Mp4 but idk why its shows like that in Davinci Resolve
H264 is ok for MP4 format, so it's fine
i have a doubt , blender file by default starts rendering at frame 1, is a total of 120 frames counting from 0 or 1?
I have a question:
I downloaded the starter files and the unreal file won't open. they say it requires 522. Does this mean the Unreal 5.22? Do we even have it?
If u get in the pit of despair do u still show it when u do the videos that are like 5 hours long and has all the art or is it just not know
when is the end date to submit project?
Do you have a animation I can Download for the render for reference?
I didn't know the max frame rate was 144 until this video. I submitted last challenge with 120 frames. I was in the pit of despair all along.
That was for Moving Meditations, frame count for Endless Engines (the current challenge) is 120.
Oh pewwww thanks for clarification. The last challenge I submitted was infinity journey with 120 frames.
Je crois que je vais me lancer pour le prochain défi 😄
Do you have to fill out the submission form to get the challenge requirements?
Hey punisher, I am building a to get into digital art and renders like this… which I have been planning to do for a very long time. I was wondering if the RTX 3080ti would be good enough or could handle this. Would I have issues? Im not sure really, the only difference seems to be vram between the 3080ti and 3090. How important is the extra 12g of vram?
3090 here, I don't often use over 12 GB of VRAM, but when you need it - you need it. Although, usually by optimizing you can get things to fit into however much VRAM you have; with the 3090 optimization isn't so much of a concern.
@@Baybren What kind of work or projects cause you to go over 12g ram then? Also wouldn’t the 40 series not be good for that since they seem to only have 16g vram? Personally not interested in that 40’s series.
Hells yeah imma participate… well imma teach myself how to do all of this…THEN imma participate but still LETS GO!!
Didn't notice this was a thing till today.. oh well, better late than never!
I won't get disqualified if something in the forground obstructs the camera?
I would love to join your discord community but i am having problem with the last step , it telling me that the code i enter is already being used , who can i contact to get help? Thanks ! and im realy really looking to see everybody work. ✌😎
i bought a new laptop i am so exited to participate in the next challenge hopefully
Yeah!! Lets get it!!
So which one is it @pwnisher. 120 frames or 144, as you threw out all the ones that have less or more than 144 frames into the pit, but then at @3:49 you show on screen the frame count has to be 120.
144 was for the last challenge. 120 is for this current project
Sorry for not asking this on the stream but what are the rules with music, like what if we kinda needed it to further show the story can we use it, and like would it have to be non-copyright, stuff like that. Thanks 👍i cant wait to see all the submissions
The music you put won't be judged since their is going to be a soundtrack for the Top 100 renders and All artist submission renders, so don't worry about it
This is relatable for everybody that had to deal with a strict teacher/professor. My heart sank when he disregarded all of those submission. I've been in the same situation before with a final project at the end of the deadline. Kinda harsh but rules are rules, it's like a job you have to properly do it or else no pay in this case no submission.
Hope can parcitipating this challenge! And make it to all montage ;"), got a lot of homework this day :(
I'm simple. I see a skyline, I click
will there be another challenge like this?
Haha, I am the editor of a big dashcam channel, so I have to do deal with loads of garbled footage. =) You wouldn't believe, how many clips come in with a very messy framerate I am starting to wonder, if it's actually the cameras recording bad framerates. We are talking about every 5th frame or something being the same is the one before, so actual doubled frames. It works for automatic tracking, but it sucks for manual tracking and prevends smooth slomos. Often I have sat there and manually removing doubled frames and re-render.
When producing own videos, it's very important to me that it's properly made. My purely private videos are way better, than they need to be. Anyway, since I also work in 3D, maybe one day I'll be part of such a challenge. =D
Hi Clint I noticed that a game called avatars saga has been using your kung fu render challenge videos on their ads
Thanks.
My C4D project was set to 24 fps with 1-120 frames, yet when I import and export in and out of After Effects, the framecount is only 92, really strange and I have no clue why it's happening.
are you sure you're not converting framerate in ae by accident?
@@blacxthornE I set the composition in AE to 24 fps
check the interpret footage(right click your footage on project panel) change it to 24fps too, usually AE make it 30fps in default,
@@AndriVision thank you. How did I not know that 🤦♂️
Thanks for helping a fellow artist :)
BRIDGES !
now i wanna see a janky Pit of Dispair Cut