Joel Schumacher's Batman Forever Is A Flawed Masterpiece

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  • čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
  • I like Joel Schumacher's Batman & Robin, did you think that I wouldn't like Batman Forever!? Seriously though, this movie is genuinely good and I do think it deserves a lot more credit than people were willing to give it. Jim Carrey alone is a good reason to love this movie, his performance as The Riddler is brilliant. However, there's a lot of other themes that are explored in Batman Forever and in this video, I decided to shine light on this strengths of Joel Schumacher's Batman Forever. Also, release the Schumacher cut.
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Komentáře • 90

  • @IDontBeatGames
    @IDontBeatGames  Před 2 lety +17

    So, hey, I thought I'd let everyone know this: if the visuals seems spontaneous just like in my last video, it's not my fault I promise. In fact, my vision for this video essentially got butchered entirely due to copyright/blocking issues. It took a full day of changing and reuploading this video (20 times by the way) to make this video happen. I might not be fully happy with the visuals of this video but I'm happy that I was able to get this video out, eventually. I really hope that everyone understands and enjoys the video!

    • @TechyySean
      @TechyySean Před 2 lety

      u grinding

    • @sparkageddon3186
      @sparkageddon3186 Před 2 lety +1

      fun fact: one batman comic book adaptation batman forever used was batman: ego read it and go back to this movie and u got your answer the original script was better and more fleshed out

    • @IDontBeatGames
      @IDontBeatGames  Před 2 lety +1

      @@sparkageddon3186 Wrote this fun fact down! I appreciate this 🙏🏼

    • @sparkageddon3186
      @sparkageddon3186 Před 2 lety

      @@IDontBeatGames thanks i didn't realize how batman ego and other tales the big bat u see in the deleted name was fiend and the more u read it u're be like damn joel is the second director who stayed connected with the source material sam hamm did most before it got converted to later batman movies

    • @randallrutherford1384
      @randallrutherford1384 Před rokem

      This movie was a humongous hit when it came out. I remember as a kid the movie seem like it stayed in theaters the entire summer, and it was only after Batman and robin came out that people started to hate on this movie, but it was love at first into the ones who had a memory that works for them. This movies has really always been damn good.

  • @TJK82834
    @TJK82834 Před 2 lety +29

    They need to Release the Schumacher Cut of this Movie in honor of Joel Schumacher..And I agree with your Opinion about this Movie.

  • @OfficialRaveBlitz
    @OfficialRaveBlitz Před 2 lety +25

    Batman Forever is an absolute Masterpiece of a film! It's probably my personal favorite Batman movie, I love everything about it. Val Kilmer is a fantastic Bruce Wayne/Batman, the colorful Neon lit streets of Gotham and the added body builder statues around the city, give it a surreal and fresh look that you don't see in alot of Modern Superhero films today. The over-the-top performances of the villains combined with Kilmer and Chris O'Donnels straightman approach give this film a kind of uniqueness that most films normally wouldn't do.

    • @IDontBeatGames
      @IDontBeatGames  Před 2 lety +1

      I'm so glad to hear that I'm not the only person that loves this movie for what it is. I really hope this video lived up to any potential expectation before you watched considering the title of this video!!

    • @OfficialRaveBlitz
      @OfficialRaveBlitz Před 2 lety +1

      @@IDontBeatGames And yeah.... I'm gonna come out and say it: I even love Batman & Robin. The Schumacher Batman films were my childhood, as were the Burton films. Love all four of those movies.

    • @IDontBeatGames
      @IDontBeatGames  Před 2 lety +1

      @@OfficialRaveBlitz If you haven't checked it out, I actually have a video up about Batman & Robin :)

    • @OfficialRaveBlitz
      @OfficialRaveBlitz Před 2 lety +1

      @@IDontBeatGames If you're tired of Modern Superhero movies and stupid trends, I highly recommend CZcamsr Rick Worley, he gives a unique and different perspective on Superhero movies.
      czcams.com/video/JnRTzwpJOUk/video.html

    • @cultureguide3660
      @cultureguide3660 Před 2 lety

      @@IDontBeatGames not only you I do not understand the criticism of this film, it just has a different warm atmosphere in which you have to discover something interesting. but the one in 97 is terrible and terrible

  • @geofflegeoff6795
    @geofflegeoff6795 Před 2 lety +17

    Val is the best Batman.

  • @raedvalenzuela5085
    @raedvalenzuela5085 Před 2 lety +9

    When I was 11 I was so psyched and excited to see Batman forever because it had my favorite Batman villain the riddler. I watched the last two movies before it and loved them and as well as the comics and the cartoon . So, going to this move was a huge excitement for me. I still remembered seeing the teaser poster of the Batman logo with the question mark. Watched it in theaters and I loved it now as a 37 yr old adult it’s different Yeah it’s not great, but I still have a soft spot for Batman forever

    • @IDontBeatGames
      @IDontBeatGames  Před 2 lety +1

      This is so fucking cool to hear. Trust me, it’s not that great but man, just like you, I have a soft spot for Batman Forever as well. I really hope this video managed to somehow reconnect with your love for it from your childhood in a positive way!

  • @josearrocha3377
    @josearrocha3377 Před 2 lety +12

    The first Batman movie to actually be about Batman unlike the Burton films. Val Kilmer is the under appreciated Batman. I hope The Schumacher Cut is released someday.

  • @user-or6yn8pm3c
    @user-or6yn8pm3c Před 2 lety +4

    It got the character right. We see him move on from tragedy to be a hero. The look of this film was also beautiful.

    • @IDontBeatGames
      @IDontBeatGames  Před 2 lety +1

      Agreed!

    • @Chuck_EL
      @Chuck_EL Před rokem

      We also see The "Public" Bruce Wayne actually doing things and going to places hes a silver spoon kid and grew up with his family name being huge and he's a aristocrat he should be able to blend in and act accordingly which Kilmer does perfectly

  • @patrickdoherty4527
    @patrickdoherty4527 Před rokem +1

    I remember watching this when it was released in cinemas. I must have been 8 years old. I absolutely loved it! I had a huge poster on my bedroom door and some toys from the movie. I remember all they hype, the Seal song - what a time! I remember it being exciting, colourful and fun. How many children came out of the cinema after seeing the new Batman movie feeling like I did?

  • @h_nt_r
    @h_nt_r Před 2 lety +10

    Dude yeah you’re 100% right about how modern comic movies feel too “realistic”. The worst is the current MCU regarding technology. When Iron Man released in 2008 it was super badass and perfect for that story. But now today every dumb MCU film has “technical” details you see about their suits and costumes that you shouldn’t even have to bother with. Spider-Mans Iron Boy Jr suit is a perfect example.

  • @ProJatior
    @ProJatior Před 2 lety +6

    Batman Begins is my favorite live action Batman movie but Forever is a close second. That 3 hour cut may tie or overtake Begins if it’s ever released.

    • @IDontBeatGames
      @IDontBeatGames  Před 2 lety

      I wish I could like Batman Begins, man. I just couldn't get into the first half of the movie. It feels so unnecessary despite it being important in the end and honestly, it just feels like an entirely different movie by time you get to the good portions, you know?

    • @ProJatior
      @ProJatior Před 2 lety

      I don’t know. I mean the whole thing comes back together with Ra's al Ghul. It served what it needed to. It’s an introduction to the character. Someone told me they didn’t know a thing about Batman.. I told her watch Batman Begins.

  • @lmd499
    @lmd499 Před 2 lety +2

    Thanks for posting. Great video

  • @Penumbruhh
    @Penumbruhh Před 2 lety +4

    57 attempts in he finally got this one up

  • @JH-qy8no
    @JH-qy8no Před rokem

    The childhood trauma reflection scenes were really good. I thought the rest aged terribly.

  • @arthurccy-3873
    @arthurccy-3873 Před rokem +1

    Batman Forever is always the best of the best Batman Movie!

  • @marchionessamoretto7326
    @marchionessamoretto7326 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I love Chris O' Donnell as Robin/Dick Grayson

  • @RobiticDuck
    @RobiticDuck Před 2 lety +2

    Read the official Batman Forever novelization. It is really good, I try to tell everyone to read it.

  • @TechyySean
    @TechyySean Před 2 lety +4

    Na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na... BATMAN!

  • @kevmistal8981
    @kevmistal8981 Před 2 lety +2

    Wow why have I not seen this review? My top 1 batman movie will always be Batman begins with its dark theme, the burrows was amazing, the ending "I will not kill you, but i dont have to save u" as he glides backwards away using the back draft from the train... NOW THAT'S FOR THE SERIOUS BATMAN TAKE....now on to the other side of the coin...Batman forever the campy version one of the two is unbeatable in terms of how val kilmer portrayed bruce and batman...both had the accurate personas and totally loved his detached, emo, and disturbed bruce wayne side...Batman forever's batmobile's *coughs third wing was clearly made to sell good toys in my opinion but the batmobile in forever is sooooo BATMAN...apart from ofcourse michael keaton's version... batman forever's gotham city gave the right balance when mashing the comic campy 60's universe with a much darker serious depressed depiction that dark theme contrasted with neonlights and giant statues gave gotham a msyterious dark mayhem city feel... the movie also showed all THREE of batman's vehicles which was a plus! And what always gets me is that ending at the asylum between chase and bruce it was a well written ending matched with the holloween type atmosphere around the asylum area which honors a feel of the animated series back in the 90's... I will never understand why batman's standards always had to be on how grounded and real it looked comparing to modern day life...I will always love batman forever as a complete other side contrast vs the batman begins... the two of them are the best versions of the campy and the real.. :) yet again its only my opinion.

    • @IDontBeatGames
      @IDontBeatGames  Před 2 lety +1

      I'm highly glad that you, seemingly, enjoyed my video! For what it's worth, I love Batman Forever for the exact reason you mentioned -- the balance it has. From showcasing the campiness to having seriously dark vulnerable moments for Bruce Wayne to actually giving us a movie that feels like it has more depth beyond wanting to be a "Batman movie", it's seriously a well-done movie and I do think it gets bashed way too much!

  • @logantocker4610
    @logantocker4610 Před rokem

    Holy rusted metal, Batman!
    Huh?
    The ground it's all metal and it's, full of holes ya know?
    Hole-y
    oh

  • @user-xm9qy2hy4o
    @user-xm9qy2hy4o Před rokem

    The only thing it was missing was a sex scene with Chase Meridian with Kiss From a Rose playing in the background.

  • @floydclaptonblues2
    @floydclaptonblues2 Před 11 měsíci

    I've seen a different cut of the film (not Schumacher cut, test audience cut) and it would have been the best Batman in everybody's mind. Also, still has Danny Elfman's score.

  • @collinmiller4721
    @collinmiller4721 Před rokem

    Is this the long lost son of Jason Mantzoukas?

  • @mikoaj5002
    @mikoaj5002 Před 2 lety +4

    Yeah imma go back here in few hours too write whats the problem with Forever and its movie reception, jist wait

  • @blade8989
    @blade8989 Před rokem

    Subscribed

  • @MarioSonicPhillyFan700
    @MarioSonicPhillyFan700 Před 2 lety +1

    Honestly if you take All 4 Batman Movies and eliminate Batman and Robin you have a perfect trilogy!

    • @IDontBeatGames
      @IDontBeatGames  Před 2 lety +2

      I actually like Batman & Robin! I think it's a legitimate entertaining movie despite it's weird creative decisions. It's fun, lighthearted and an incredibly visually colorful movie that deserves far more love in my opinion

    • @MarioSonicPhillyFan700
      @MarioSonicPhillyFan700 Před 2 lety +1

      @@IDontBeatGames It's okay bud I respect your opinion

    • @jasoncase9481
      @jasoncase9481 Před 3 měsíci

      Not really because Batman Forever is a campy super hero movie.

  • @James.Fields
    @James.Fields Před rokem

    #releasetheschumachercut

  • @anjomo96
    @anjomo96 Před 3 měsíci

    I loved this movie.
    Question, how is "I liked this movie" a spoiler alert?

  • @alphamoose4385
    @alphamoose4385 Před rokem

    Bvs was a masterpiece.

  • @jasoncase9481
    @jasoncase9481 Před 3 měsíci

    Batman Forever is a very flawed entertaining intentional campy ridiculous movie.
    Two Face
    He doesn’t just simply shoot Batman since he wants to kill him, and he seriously asks Batman why won’t you just die.
    Both Riddler and Two Face are having fun being very hammy in a campy Batman movie.
    The movie has multiple aspects that are very easy to criticize including Two Face just hoping Batman is at a Circus instead of not patrolling Gotham City.
    The inane Edward murders his boss except somehow he erases the footage of it despite the movie never gave us that explanation so that’s a huge plot hole.
    The Riddler fails to do anything when seeing Batman is going to use a batarang.

  • @plasticweapon
    @plasticweapon Před rokem

    it sucks.
    also, you say it doesn't suck in the thumbnail and you begin the video with all the suckiest visuals form the film.

  • @ChemicalCorpse91
    @ChemicalCorpse91 Před 2 lety +2

    No no trust me this movie sucks. No one wanted a silly/Batman 66 version of Batman. Batman 1989 & Returns will always be better then Joel Schumacher's pathetic version of Batman

    • @IDontBeatGames
      @IDontBeatGames  Před 2 lety +5

      While I respect your opinion and absolutely LOVE Batman Returns (it's my favorite old Batman movie), I still personally like Batman Forever

    • @ChemicalCorpse91
      @ChemicalCorpse91 Před 2 lety +2

      @@IDontBeatGames that's the reason i hate Batman Forever and Batman & Robin (1997) so much because Tim Burton was going to do a 3rd movie after Returns but the soccer moms and WB kicked Tim Burton. Pisses me off to this day

    • @IDontBeatGames
      @IDontBeatGames  Před 2 lety +4

      @@ChemicalCorpse91 Absolutely understandable but just know, I still appreciate every single one of those movies and even have a video up about Batman Returns and I had a fucking blast with that movie

    • @josearrocha3377
      @josearrocha3377 Před 2 lety +1

      Lol. Batman Returns is garbage. “89 really isn’t that far behind” It’s nothing but a Burton movie feat Batman. Selina Kyle becomes Catwoman after being kicked by cats? The penguin is a freak with flipper hands? Batman straps bombs on bad guys, smiles and throws them down sewers? TRASH.

    • @ChemicalCorpse91
      @ChemicalCorpse91 Před 2 lety +2

      @@josearrocha3377 Go watch your kid friendly batnipples batman then. Forever and Batman & Robin are a complete joke people like you are the reasons we ended up with those shitty movies at the end