Alesis Strike Pro SE -VS- Roland TD27KV (Deep Dive Comparison)

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  • This is a in-depth comparison and breakdown of the Roland TD27KV VS the Alesis Strike Pro SE! If you want to know just about ALL of the pros and cons to each drumset, this is the video to watch. Summery Below:
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    Strengths And Weaknesses Breakdown:
    Roland TD27KV Pros:
    Better Triggering
    Lower Latency
    Positional Sensing
    Bigger Ride Cymbal
    Module Has More Editing Options
    Bluetooth
    Resale Value
    Better Durability Reputation
    Cons:
    Uninspiring Stage Presence
    Smaller Toms, Cymbals, And Kick Drum
    Less Drums/Cymbals
    Weaker Sound Quality On The Kick/Snare/Toms
    Fewer Sounds
    $500 More Expensive Than Alesis
    Alesis Strike Pro SE
    Pros:
    More Drums and Cymbals
    Larger Kick Drum, Toms, and Hihat
    Higher Quality Sounds
    Twice As Many Sounds
    Free Sound Updates Just Keep Coming
    Less Bouncy Drumheads
    Color Screen
    Faders
    Can Import Multi-Layered Round Robin Samples
    Cons:
    Triggering Isn’t As Good As Roland
    Latency is 2X Longer Than Roland
    2” Smaller Ride Cymbal Than Roland
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  • @warhatespeace
    @warhatespeace Pƙed rokem +45

    Shopping for expensive electric drums is miserable. The manufacturers and retailers have limited info, you can't try them in stores, and there's so many mixed reviews. Thank you so much for what you do

    • @65Drums
      @65Drums  Pƙed rokem +11

      It really does suck, there's a high chance not to be able to play the expensive kit in person at a music store before purchase. I hope that improves in the future

    • @lightningjet9444
      @lightningjet9444 Pƙed rokem

      I know right! They only go over the most noticeable things most of the time. Sometimes I might want to know “can I hit the crash on the bell” or “does the drums have rim zones” and there’s nothing about that. Instead of the minor details like that it’s always just the big highlights instead of going deep.

    • @psychodrums8138
      @psychodrums8138 Pƙed rokem +3

      Now imagine how miserable it is to try buying in non-EU or non-US
      The closer we get to even test the expensive drums we are trying to buy is these YT videos... Is just not fair

    • @phillamoore157
      @phillamoore157 Pƙed 8 měsĂ­ci

      @@psychodrums8138 ...and that's to say nothing of the price. I'm VERY close to just spending the money on a Pro-tec kit, who to this day (at least to my knowledge) makes the very best feeling e-kits on the market. But, their cost is disgusting (and that's being nice about it). And, they're in Germany, on top of it. And, God help you if you get a product that you're not happy with, then having to return 10 boxes. The entire retail market has been absolutely destroyed. Either they don't carry a product, or the customer service is beyond horrible.

  • @patrickl6932
    @patrickl6932 Pƙed 2 lety +8

    I bought an Alesis Pro Strike SE and I could not be happier. It's fucking awesome.

  • @rolrayn7308
    @rolrayn7308 Pƙed 4 lety +5

    Thank you so much for this deep dive Justin! I was having a hard time choosing what e-drum kit to get but you have, pretty assuredly, sold me on the Alesis Strike Pro SE kit.
    Seriously though, thank you so much for all the work you do! Please keep it up and I wish you the best!

  • @reflexin5150
    @reflexin5150 Pƙed 4 lety +10

    Been waiting for this for a long time!

    • @65Drums
      @65Drums  Pƙed 4 lety +2

      Thanks for waiting :)

  • @e11world
    @e11world Pƙed rokem +11

    I'd love to see an updated review of this.

  • @toddfarber6315
    @toddfarber6315 Pƙed 3 lety +45

    I got thrown into ekits via the pandemic. I can not thank you enough for all you do, Justin. So much good info in every single video. You've helped me fix mistakes ive made, gave me all the info ive needed for buying gear I was looking for, and made the transition from A to E much more enjoyable. Thank you, Sir.

  • @Stllno
    @Stllno Pƙed 3 lety +157

    Alesis for me... more things to hit, greater sound library, better looking, cheaper,

    • @ryaizu9273
      @ryaizu9273 Pƙed 3 lety +20

      Durability plays a big factor

    • @ryaizu9273
      @ryaizu9273 Pƙed 3 lety +20

      And Alesis’ drums aren’t that durable

    • @mirrer3103
      @mirrer3103 Pƙed 3 lety +33

      More pads don't matter much when they regularly fail to trigger.

    • @teo-dev
      @teo-dev Pƙed 3 lety +28

      Trigger failing
      Poor durability
      Alesis make drumsets you can't count on

    • @teo-dev
      @teo-dev Pƙed 3 lety +8

      I owned an alesis dm10x i sold it and bought a yamaha dtx400k which iss the lowest end serie yamaha makes
      Its betterrr at least i can count on
      It's durable triggers will never fail
      Even tho alesis mesh pads are nicer but it gives hard time
      It doesn't always trigger welll
      Its make the playing feeling suck because of that

  • @patrickryan4760
    @patrickryan4760 Pƙed 4 lety +13

    Justin, your playing has really amped up dude! I noticed quite a difference. Sounding great. Love your channel! I have an older DM10 Studio with upgrades but I am seriously eyeballing the Strike Pro SE now. Keep up the great work!

  • @JazBlakestonPetch
    @JazBlakestonPetch Pƙed 4 lety +4

    Perfect video. Have been trying to make a decision between these two kits for a while!

  • @skithunter8990
    @skithunter8990 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    I think you have the best drum info vids on YT. Thank you!!

  • @amosioanchiriac7513
    @amosioanchiriac7513 Pƙed 3 lety +5

    I appreciate your honest reviews.

  • @bbsplighting2815
    @bbsplighting2815 Pƙed 3 lety +11

    Excellent review Justin! You've taught me something... "Stage presence" is an important factor to consider, explains where my head it at and why I can't get acoustic design e-kits off my mind. Acoustic kits will always be a first love but e-kits are way more practical however generic looking models are less fulfilling in the long run IMO. Needed to hear an honest review so thank you.

  • @deanrasmussen3178
    @deanrasmussen3178 Pƙed 3 lety +7

    Great channel and a timely discovery as I'm about to pass along my acoustic set to my son and replace it with something more compact and less noisy. As an older music hobbyist - basically hacking away at guitar, drums, and keyboard - I don't need stage presence, a zillion sounds, or even resale value. For me, durability equates to value, and quality enhances enjoyment. Glitzy options (on almost any product) tend to be "bait" for the average user with average skills and needs; you might feel tempted initially, but in time you'll forget about the frills you would rarely use anyways. Again, well-executed videos here, with efficient, balanced, down-to-earth observations and guidance. Thanks!

  • @SteveTheDrummer
    @SteveTheDrummer Pƙed 4 lety +1

    Dude... you’re chops are getting really really really good. I’ve always looked to you for a source of information, I can see you have been seriously shedding on the kit. Awesome playing man

    • @65Drums
      @65Drums  Pƙed 4 lety

      Thanks Steve! I'm kinda hit or miss sometimes. Especially at events like NAMM where I'm running around playing 10+ drumsets in one day. Hard to play perfect like that. The more time I have with a kit, the better the footage tends to be.

  • @DeathswingKettlebell
    @DeathswingKettlebell Pƙed 4 lety

    Excellent review.
    Thanks again for a great video!

  • @toddlavigne6441
    @toddlavigne6441 Pƙed 4 lety +1

    best and most unbiased reviews on the web IMO
    thanks Justin !!

  • @mauriciocortezbowles6446
    @mauriciocortezbowles6446 Pƙed 4 lety +6

    Liked before even watching, great content as always brotha

  • @jimenezbeatz4295
    @jimenezbeatz4295 Pƙed 3 lety

    Ordered an Alesis Strike Pro Special Editions thanks to reviews likes these, thanks manđŸ‘đŸŒ

    • @grxygxds
      @grxygxds Pƙed 3 lety +2

      You'll wish you hadn't lol

  • @J.RProductions2024
    @J.RProductions2024 Pƙed 4 lety +11

    I love the sounds of the Strike module, but I also love the technology of Roland's digital pads. So I would recommend Alesis to make their own special snare pad, so then the experience of playing the Strike module is better than before.

  • @tx2jbh81
    @tx2jbh81 Pƙed 3 lety +3

    Man!!! I dig your channel đŸ‘ŠđŸœ I’ll be in the market within a year to upgrade from my TD-12. It has served me very well seeing how it was originally a gift to me after a near fatal car wreck in 2005. Keep making these videos brother! I’ll give on Patreon.

    • @johndef5075
      @johndef5075 Pƙed 2 lety

      Td12 still a very good module. My brother just got a td50x and I was surprised how good my td10exp still sounds in comparison! You might experience the same when listening to new modules.

  • @FranksDrumCave
    @FranksDrumCave Pƙed 4 lety +12

    Since I switched to using drum software(AD2), I don’t pay attention to module sounds anymore. So I’m paying attention to pad design, sizes, head quality/rebound, and how realistic the cymbals swing and feel. I like the Alesis for the overall sizes, and the Roland for the cymbals. The sample import option in the Strike module is nice, but I don’t see it replacing my computers hard drive anytime soon. I’m too used to stand-alone AD2 and it’s awesome editing options. So hard to choose between Roland and Alesis, because they are both good quality kits.

  • @submission62
    @submission62 Pƙed 3 lety

    Very helpful. Thank you. Great job.

  • @someonesaidyes
    @someonesaidyes Pƙed 3 lety +2

    Thank you for the review. I was struggling to get a real deal comparison I could trust. For me, I’m going the Alesis route.

  • @dereksmith1386
    @dereksmith1386 Pƙed rokem

    Thankyou, for bringing me up to speed on these 2 drum kits.

  • @jabottom
    @jabottom Pƙed 3 lety

    Such a great video! Thanks for the great content. Subbed!

  • @jordyjdn5438
    @jordyjdn5438 Pƙed 4 lety

    Huge thanks to you man! Really helpfull!

  • @willtroisi2942
    @willtroisi2942 Pƙed 4 lety

    In the next few months i will need to buy an e-drum, and i took like the 80% of the informations that i needed from your videos. Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge and experienceđŸ™đŸŒ

    • @65Drums
      @65Drums  Pƙed 4 lety

      Awesome William! Glad the channel has been useful

  • @IftkharAhmed
    @IftkharAhmed Pƙed 2 lety

    Nice, balanced, review dude. Good job.

  • @desmondjones7643
    @desmondjones7643 Pƙed 2 lety

    This video convinced me to get the Alesis. I was going back and for between the SE and the Roland 17kvx. Thanks buddy.

    • @LiquidToolExperiment
      @LiquidToolExperiment Pƙed rokem

      How do you feel about your decision now? I'm torn between those two kits as well. 17kvx is 1500 with a free $225 throne and strike pro SE is 2700 with $300 gift card after purchase at sweetwater which would buy the alesis 1200 amp later. The 17kvx just looks so small and boring but I don't want the SE if everything is just going to fail and break over time. The 27kv is the same price as the SE and you get that same throne, so that's a possibility as well. The 27kv2 looks amazing with the digi hats but that's 3500 with no extras. Too spendy for me.

  • @TopFlightCJ
    @TopFlightCJ Pƙed 4 lety +1

    Thanks Justin! Always come through for me right as I’m deciding to buy these two,last time was the 25kv vs strike pro,went with Roman last time, believe I will go with alesis this time! Thanks buddy,love the channel for like 3-4 years now

  • @SamNaborsDrums
    @SamNaborsDrums Pƙed 4 lety +2

    Justin, youre playing has improved a lot! Keep it up

  • @mherod51
    @mherod51 Pƙed 2 lety

    Thanks for the valuable info.

  • @stoxyg38
    @stoxyg38 Pƙed 4 lety +1

    great vid, thanks!

  • @andromandy1371
    @andromandy1371 Pƙed 3 lety

    That is all I wanted on Christmas đŸ˜©

  • @MyLostInLifeAdventure
    @MyLostInLifeAdventure Pƙed 2 lety +4

    Well I wasn't sure how to process the pros and cons between the two sets. Being a brand new drummer, I prefer the looks of an acoustic kit. Unfortunately, my wife is ill and she would not be able to deal with the noise of my constant out of time banging and unnecessary fills, LOL. I chose the Alesis Strike Pro SE because of the appearance and color screen. Both, completely unnecessary, but to each his own. I haven't been disappointed one bit with my purchase. I have done quite a btt of trigger tweaking based on various videos I found here on CZcams. This also taught me quite a lot about my module, the menus, and how things work. I have had this kit for about six months now, and I haven't had anything fail. I am very happy with my purchase and all that you offer on your channel. Not all of us can justify a VAD706 and your videos keep things real from the average Joe's perspective. Please keep up the excellent work!

  • @jerrygamez5723
    @jerrygamez5723 Pƙed 7 měsĂ­ci

    Thank you so much for the video

  • @ryanroarty691
    @ryanroarty691 Pƙed 4 lety +1

    Your drumming is getting soo good dude!

  • @Glurbschnurb
    @Glurbschnurb Pƙed 4 lety +1

    Sooo close to 65k subscribers! Go go go!

  • @robertlucas9867
    @robertlucas9867 Pƙed 4 lety +48

    1000ms equal 1 second. 3ms is a fly wing flap and 5ms is a honeybee wing flap. It takes 80 ms for sound to reach you from 30 meters (about 98 ft) away according to science. Video software when syncing usually has audio ahead of visual for it to sync and misleads people into thinking it is instant (this is standard practice if you look it up). 2ms to 5ms is typical response time for LCD monitors.
    This is just some data I am providing for context.
    I have been asking various people for data on drum modules speed because I do not experience it and no has provided me data from reputable sources. Only Roland claims to be the fastest and people who have been told this over and over again. Anything under 10 milliseconds is not noticeable on a kit and the Roland TD20 was between 5-10 milliseconds (if I remember) from pad>module>headphones or amp. Pearl Mimic Pro and Roland TD50 says it can do it around 3ms. Even if the Alesis is slower, lets say 15 milliseconds (which I doubt compared to the Roland TD20 and Pearl Mimic Pro I use) it is still faster than a Two hundred fifty-sixth note at 60 BPM.
    If the old Roland TD20 was 5-10 milliseconds and people were fine with it then the slightly slower speed on a Alesis Strike should not be a issue.
    I do see a lag even with acoustic drums through a PA the farther away I am from a stage and the same rule applies for electronic drums through a PA system therefore using a stage for comparison is not a valid argument.
    However if using in studio and it is 8 milliseconds slower on playback, just edit or snap to beat. It’s not that hard and even using a Roland TD50 people will play off beat so you have to edit those parts anyway and if the person is on time then it is a cinch to snap into beat. And if the audio for a Alesis is off 10 milliseconds on recording, remember Roland TD50 is 3-5ms off too because of the time it takes to travel and you will have to make sure it is in sync to the beat.
    Not arguing just providing context for people to realize how meaningless to dread over or actually under 10 milliseconds of audio.
    I am interested in improvements to reliability with Alesis.
    And its not the pads that cause the delay, its the module but Roland is still using basic hardware for its module. It is not a 8 core processor so it shouldn’t cost that much. It’s all in the OS and algorithms now.

    • @e11world
      @e11world Pƙed 4 lety +5

      This is the only thing for me to consider Alesis is how long it will last. I want to buy one that last 15+ years playing at home/recording mostly and maybe a few gigs out here and there so I do think it will last and love everything they've done to it. Roland gets me with nearly perfect hardware in terms of long lasting but it isn't the most fun to play. Nothing exciting about it I feel.

    • @isogash
      @isogash Pƙed 4 lety +2

      Yeah, anything under 10ms sounds fine to the player.

    • @robertlucas9867
      @robertlucas9867 Pƙed 4 lety +1

      Eddie - E11World I agree longtivity is the issue for me but I can’t stand the price, cheap sounds and small sizes of Roland.

    • @user-ey4st2yy6r
      @user-ey4st2yy6r Pƙed 4 lety

      have to handle this problem Alesis According to

    • @toddlavigne6441
      @toddlavigne6441 Pƙed 3 lety +2

      thank you so much for clearing all that up. I've always been a little confused on how much I should be concerned with it....cheers

  • @e11world
    @e11world Pƙed 4 lety +1

    I've waited for this video for a while so thanks for putting it up.
    It's the fixes that Alesis did to the original kit that makes this seem like the better option. $500 more isn't a deal breaker if you're spending over $2000 I think especially when it will be the one to use for years to come however, how long will Alesis kits last is the only thing I consider against it.

  • @crieverytim
    @crieverytim Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Thank you thank you. So damn helpful đŸ’Ș

  • @lrblouie
    @lrblouie Pƙed rokem

    Great review

  • @michaelday6987
    @michaelday6987 Pƙed 3 lety +19

    The Alesis sound in the opening demo speaks to me in a way the Roland doesn't.

    • @dante3708
      @dante3708 Pƙed 3 lety +2

      interesting. it seemed the drummer was more freestyling and feeling the groove on the roland, and while the alesis sounded cooler probably just tuned differently, his first freestyle on the alesis looked and sounded more rehearsed. as a musician in general it speaks volumes that the roland felt more like the real thing, even if the otber produces more "cool" sounds out the box.

    • @daverobertson5633
      @daverobertson5633 Pƙed 3 lety +6

      It also breaks in a way that the roland wont...

  • @johnpietrolaj8917
    @johnpietrolaj8917 Pƙed 4 lety +1

    Nice video! I'm liking the Alesis!

  • @billoliver5098
    @billoliver5098 Pƙed 4 lety

    Fantastic video..love my Strike.. everything you said in there was true, you forgot one thing to mention, the color scheme on the Alesis just pops!

    • @skateorbri
      @skateorbri Pƙed 3 lety +1

      How has it held up so far and how are the high hats?

  • @todorstoynov2362
    @todorstoynov2362 Pƙed 4 lety +9

    I really appreciate the fixed functionality on the Alesis hi-hats, but I am not so sure on having the bottom be just the controller now, instead of having an actual bottom piece with a controller in it. It leaves the hats too much room to wiggle around when closed, they should be really tight when closed.

  • @lightningjet9444
    @lightningjet9444 Pƙed rokem +4

    Alesis all the way. Just having free updates with new kit sounds on top of all the rest is just the cherry on top. I don’t really care about latency as long as it’s not noticeable, I’m not like buddy rich about to do the fastest snare roll ever it’s just not something I care about unless it’s a genuine thing that’s holding me back. But the biggest selling point for me personally is the acoustic sizes of everything. I’m one of those people who wants to be able to go from electric to playing on acoustic without there being an adjustment period. The feeling and sizes of the drums, along with all the features (like bell zones and rims) is all that I’m looking for and the Alesis does that and more.

  • @crazyclownstudioaudio3122

    Great video 👍👍👍👍👍

  • @mecdrum7
    @mecdrum7 Pƙed 2 lety

    Thanks I’m going to get the Alesis strike

  • @521Life
    @521Life Pƙed 3 lety

    Thank you for this. I’m favoring the Alesis for the outs. I need something to replace my acoustic set for live studio recording/.

  • @garyn234
    @garyn234 Pƙed 4 lety +4

    Thanks for the videos! A thought - it would be so helpful if you kept an ONGOING list of what YOU feel are the top drum sets in each price category. It'd be a huge help for those of use wanting to get started, but NOT wanting to do weeks of research (and we don't have access to these drums anyway even if we DID want to spend the time). I'd rather hear what an expert like yourself has to say, because I know my budget, but I DON"T know drums. At least yet. Thanks! Gary

  • @GR3G0
    @GR3G0 Pƙed 4 lety +4

    Once again I already bought the strike se BUT I enjoy so much watching your videos !!! Keep them coming especially now that we have to stay at home. Greetings from Greece

    • @pablovicioso
      @pablovicioso Pƙed 3 lety +1

      Hey, would you mind giving an update on how the SE is holding up by now?

    • @GR3G0
      @GR3G0 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      @@pablovicioso no problems regarding built quality I am still tuning the hi hat settings but I got them 95% dialed in. I keep seeing posts on FB group about ride cymbals going bad but mine works great

    • @notsogreatcourier9536
      @notsogreatcourier9536 Pƙed 3 lety

      you still thinking it was worth it? im going to college soon so i cant bring my acoustic and ive been looking at a strike pro

    • @GR3G0
      @GR3G0 Pƙed 3 lety

      @@notsogreatcourier9536 yes currently , but note that needs a lot of tweeking to bring it to your personal preference , second note if you are new to e drumming you might need some time to adjust your playing , think of it as a new instrument that is related closely to an acoustic drum set but not quite one! And lastly it's quite noisy for the ppl living bellow you as are almost all e kits because of the kick pedal.

    • @notsogreatcourier9536
      @notsogreatcourier9536 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      @@GR3G0 alright, thank you so much man

  • @RZLAND
    @RZLAND Pƙed 2 lety

    Glad to find this video. I'm replacing the module on my edrums which are rolands. My TD-20 expanded module is very limited and to upgrade to the td30 isn't much of an upgrade for roughly $1500+. I just got a sweet deal on the Alesis strike module and can't wait to get it.

    • @johndef5075
      @johndef5075 Pƙed 2 lety

      Did you get it yet? How do you like it so far?

    • @RZLAND
      @RZLAND Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @@johndef5075 long story. Yes I bought the Strike. I could never get my hi hat to work. It would never close. I adjusted sensitivity but nothing. One of my cymbals would never work. When I hit the snare I got cymbal crosstalk. After watching countless videos and questions on forums, I gave up. Sent it back to Sweetwater who was awesome to refund my money. I ended up finding a super deal on a TD30. Is it the answer? No. But, it’s quite an upgrade from the TD20X.

  • @kevron7559
    @kevron7559 Pƙed 3 lety

    Thank you for such a great in-depth review!

  • @skipyoung12
    @skipyoung12 Pƙed 3 lety +32

    In every demo video on e drums I never hear the narrator mention the decibel level of the kit without amplification. That is a big concern for those of us in apartments.

    • @JayJay-ii5un
      @JayJay-ii5un Pƙed 3 lety +2

      You can here them in next room. Not annoying at all. Probably cant here anything next apartment.

    • @adamecomp
      @adamecomp Pƙed 3 lety

      Pintech Concertcast are VERY Quite, probably because of the solid metal constuction...I have the Pintech 12" dual zone snare. I have the Alesis Command set. Much louder pads! I don't know if the Strike's are that loud or not, however.

    • @attempt58
      @attempt58 Pƙed 3 lety +2

      @@JayJay-ii5un Can't where anything next apartment?

    • @JayJay-ii5un
      @JayJay-ii5un Pƙed 3 lety

      @@attempt58 if the walls between are insulated or thick I would guess not.

    • @adamecomp
      @adamecomp Pƙed 3 lety

      Pintech Concertcast have been the quietest for me. It’s like putting a mesh head over an iron skillet. Nothing vibrates to make noise thankfully!

  • @davidb.8948
    @davidb.8948 Pƙed rokem +1

    As a long-time intermediate drummer, the Alesis Strike Pro SE is amazing and worth the money.

  • @spacep0d
    @spacep0d Pƙed 2 lety +13

    Great comparison! I weighed all of my options and bought the Alesis Strike Pro SE. Why? As you mentioned, it's like a TD-50KV for around $2500-2600 vs. $8000 Roland charges for the TD-50. I really like that the Alesis has all of the toms, bigger drum heads, tons of kits, great sound kits, and 8 different outs! I record primarily with a Tascam Model 24 before getting anywhere near a DAW and I love that I can separate kick, snare, cymbals, toms, etc. as separate outs to the Model 24 and mix those with guitar, vox, bass, etc. before I switch to a DAW for final production.
    The TD-50 has separate outs but yeah, $8,000.
    Wouldn't the Alesis USB out also work to send audio to a DAW? I know the Roland can send audio through USB, but that ties you to a DAW. I specifically like that the Alesis lets me send out my various drum components to the Tascam Model 24 without any DAW involved, and I can add FX to each separate track (kick, snare, etc.) in the DAW once I'm ready for final production. I can even move those audio samples around if the mood strikes, or record new parts in the DAW (same as Roland), but the separate outs really help if you prefer a recording mixer as I do.
    With the Tascam Model 24, you can also move those parts between mixers. So, I can record my guitar, vox, bass, lead guitar on one Tascam Model 24, move the SD Card to the drum room and then record on dedicated drum channels which differ from the originals. Then I can mix the entire song on the Tascam as much as I want. This is where the separate outs on the Alesis really shine if you don't want to be stuck in a DAW during the initial inspired songwriting process. Of course if you have drums in the same room as everything else you only need one mixer such as the Model 24, but you can use two seamlessly. Per Tascam's manuals, you can even move songs from smaller mixers (such as the Model 12 or 16) to a Model 24 and vice versa. It will populate as many channels per song as there's room to do so.
    I also just love the LOOK of the Alesis. As you've mentioned, it's got stage presence and I really like the red sparkly metallic finish. So nice. Even if I had a ton of choices here I'd probably still go with the red.

    • @spacep0d
      @spacep0d Pƙed 2 lety +3

      @Shane Apple Very!

    • @user-zt1er1uj6i
      @user-zt1er1uj6i Pƙed rokem

      @@spacep0d I almost bought one yesterday, Have you had any HH or drum trigger issues at all? Thank you.

    • @spacep0d
      @spacep0d Pƙed rokem

      @@user-zt1er1uj6i No issues!

  • @stephenhughes5156
    @stephenhughes5156 Pƙed rokem +2

    The one thing that puts me off the Strike Pro SE is the latency that you mentioned compared to the TD27. I am assuming though that, in reality, the difference is barely noticeable. In which case I will definitely lean towards the Alesis. I'll definitely have to try them both out first.

  • @gualtercouto
    @gualtercouto Pƙed 4 lety

    Hey Justin 65, you said roland module in reality y has got 12 pad inputs. What if I do not have digital pads? Do I have to subctract the 3 imputs from the module or you weren't counting with these 3?

  • @IJustFiguredThisOut
    @IJustFiguredThisOut Pƙed rokem +1

    I purchased the SE a few years ago and am very happy with it, don't regret anything. So like with most E-kits, no matter how quality a cymbal pad is, they will never be able to register every note depending on speed and strength. I use a double pedal so obviously it's better to have a 2-legged hi hat stand, which will still move when I hit it but that decreases it's ability to register while you're just rockin on it, so I got a clamp and hooked the hi hat stand to the actual rack for the kit, so now it doesn't move at all, and it registers better. It's not like a night and day change but you will definitely notice.

  • @illgazillion
    @illgazillion Pƙed 4 lety +39

    Alesis Con: only comes in cocktail bar red sparkle.
    Wish you could choose from maybe three to five colors. Including one or two being wood finish.

    • @Rustbukkit69
      @Rustbukkit69 Pƙed 4 lety +17

      Can you choose from three to five colours for the TD-27KV? Hell, they aren't even half-shells. Drum wrap is relatively cheap and a kit can be wrapped casually in a weekend. Hardly a con when the comparison kit doesn't have the options you're requesting. ;)

    • @CrazySC833
      @CrazySC833 Pƙed 4 lety +6

      You can always buy new wraps which aren't super expensive. The Alesis drums are full shells, wrap them anyway you want!

    • @steezyboiiii808
      @steezyboiiii808 Pƙed 3 lety

      yea green would look cool

    • @martinm2921
      @martinm2921 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      roland con: only one color also. i dont see the point you're making.

    • @illgazillion
      @illgazillion Pƙed 3 lety

      Martin M not a fan of red. Or red sparkle. Think it’s pretty clear if you actually read my statement. Thought it would be slightly cool to choose a different color or wood look. Just an opinion.

  • @kekag
    @kekag Pƙed 4 lety +5

    Personally I would take a standard strike pro (my current kit) over the td-27kv. It's just far more enjoyable to play the 5-piece kit with an extra cymbal; plus, with the exception of the ride, most of the pads are significantly larger. The module also sounds much better in my opinion. If you're serious about hardware longetivity and already have a drum VST or like Roland sounds then go for the td-27 though.

  • @JacksonAxe
    @JacksonAxe Pƙed 3 lety +15

    00:01:12
    Am I the only one that noticed the bass drum didn't trigger?
    Well done, Alesis.

  • @toadetteremotewithwiimotio3330

    Alesis Module + Roland Kit

  • @garyo7522
    @garyo7522 Pƙed 4 lety +6

    Justin, you said you liked the Alesis heads better than the Rolands. I've switched over to the Real Feel heads. How do the Alesis heads compare to the Real Feel heads?
    Thank you. Always look forward to your reviews, knowledge and playing.

  • @baax
    @baax Pƙed 4 lety

    Nice playing btw

  • @SharkInlay
    @SharkInlay Pƙed 4 lety +1

    This is my favorite review you have done. Thanks for making it. Very even handed and I appreciate that. The only thing that you could have added would have been; For this to be a fair fight you would need to add an extra tom and cymbal, which would have been over $500, to the Roland. That makes the price difference $1k.

  • @youngguns996
    @youngguns996 Pƙed 4 lety +32

    Great Review Justin! Alesis is getting better but I'm still a Roland Fan, for many reasons including quality and resale value.

    • @65Drums
      @65Drums  Pƙed 4 lety +9

      I love Roland drums too

    • @motodrummer
      @motodrummer Pƙed 4 lety +8

      well you pay more so resale should be more

    • @johndef5075
      @johndef5075 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @@motodrummer My Roland stuff has lasted decades. I wonder what an Alesis Strike would look like in 10 years.

    • @Tony-fx9ky
      @Tony-fx9ky Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @@johndef5075 that is the thing. I owned a budget kit years ago, it lasted a year.

  • @spideliciousx9822
    @spideliciousx9822 Pƙed 3 lety +4

    Foot switch MASSIVELY beneficial if you want to switch between single or double kick (hi hat control) One hit of the foot switch and you’ve got closed hats for double bass play, then hit it again to revert to controlled hats. Before, I had to flick the kit over to a dedicated double kick kit on the module. The Alesis does sound like it has the better drum samples though?

  • @natehine8541
    @natehine8541 Pƙed 4 lety +3

    Great video .. can you do a similar one comparing strike se against ATV of similar price?

  • @tx2jbh81
    @tx2jbh81 Pƙed 3 lety

    Yep. Alesis all the way. I was hesitant but watching these videos and a few others; I’m sold. I’ll buy mine through Sweetwater I think.

  • @imacashew.
    @imacashew. Pƙed 2 lety

    The sample loading would be huge for me. I love using GGD libraries.

  • @GlitteringDelights
    @GlitteringDelights Pƙed 4 lety +4

    After much deliberation (especially after the teething troubles of the previous model), got my Strike Pro SE six weeks ago, and I'm never looking back - you just get so much more bang for your buck over the Rolands. OK, only time will tell on longevity - feels very solid and up for a beating, but I'm not a thrasher. To my ears, its sounds great out-of-the box, but the level of customisation, sampling and editing options on the module is insane and will certainly keep me busy over the coming months of god-knows-what.

  • @cleverdood
    @cleverdood Pƙed 4 lety +1

    Great comparison! If Alesis can match Roland on triggering, that would be awesome. I’d love to check out the analogue recording over USB on the Roland module. It’s great that the SP has direct outs, but it’s annoying having stereo pairs for toms and cymbals while mixing. Alesis has them best on sounds for sure, and I love having the physical faders on the module. I’ve been playing my acoustic set more the last few months and when I play the SP, I am disappointed with the triggering, but I don’t think any e-kit comes close to real drums for dynamics. Do you know if Alesis makes those heads? Did they fee similar to the Drumtec real feel?

  • @everestabblitt1522
    @everestabblitt1522 Pƙed 4 lety +6

    Hey Justin just wondering what your all time favorite electric drum so far would be. Thanks!

  • @Abbysum1
    @Abbysum1 Pƙed 4 lety +8

    I"ve been going back and forth. This review was So helpful. I loved the Alesis kit because it was like sitting at my acoustic right off the bat. I also felt the Roland sounded like samples from the early 2000's. It just sounds fake. I will be ordering the Alesis, and hoping they last a good while.

    • @sabalmoza
      @sabalmoza Pƙed 4 lety +2

      Did you get them already? Considering the same myself....

    • @mocheford
      @mocheford Pƙed 3 lety +1

      Same question.. please reply

  • @trackstarmark9127
    @trackstarmark9127 Pƙed 4 lety

    Best reviews

  • @theoutsiderjess4869
    @theoutsiderjess4869 Pƙed 2 lety

    That Alesis not only sounds good but also looks so good

  • @chrisgaster7099
    @chrisgaster7099 Pƙed 4 lety

    Been looking at this kit for awile now..I'm gonna buy one..the Roland is just way out of my price range

  • @fVNzO
    @fVNzO Pƙed 4 lety +2

    You made a point to the mesh heads on the alesis set - how do you think they compare to the tripple ply on the pd-140ds snare and i belive the new roland floor tom? I completely agree on the older roland pads that they are just complete trampolines, it is especially jarring on the pdx-100 "floor tom". I don't know if the new roland toms use tripple ply or if they've just stuck to their old mesh.

  • @TGamingFanatic
    @TGamingFanatic Pƙed 4 lety

    Hey i have been looking into getting an edrum set to send to my computer through midi to play on a daw. which Brand or models do you think is best? i am trying to get as low of a price as possible. i would prefer to have a hi hat on a stand and a more realistic bass drum. i have been deciding between the Alesis Strike Pro, and the Alesis Strike Kit. was thinking about the Roland TD-17KVX and dealing with the smaller bass. also not sure if the Alesis Strike Pro listed on guitar center is the original with problems or its been updated. thanks for any advice.

  • @danielmartins7060
    @danielmartins7060 Pƙed 4 lety +1

    1st of all thanks a lot for your videos. They are indeed a great help in many ways. Im building my own own eletronic drums with low volume cymbals and I have one question: whats is the best module/price related that you would recomend? Alesis strike se vs td 17 vs td 27? Regards. Dan

  • @marcgingergagne6701
    @marcgingergagne6701 Pƙed rokem

    Hello Justin,
    Thanks for your all your hard work!
    What Very Good Episode!
    You are definitely improving your drumming skills immensely!
    Congratulations!!
    I’ve owned, oh

.let’s just say a few e-kits
..1
2
12
..21

..😅
    Including the TD-30’s
    I enjoy my Strike Pro SE’s the most!
    I agree, IMOP

Alesis has way better factory sounds.
    I did some trigger editing and found that the Strike Pro SE trigger sensitivity are as good if not better than the Roland’s
    Please Keep up the Great Episodes!

  • @michelchalifour2317
    @michelchalifour2317 Pƙed 4 lety +1

    Great job Justin for your video. If I found a use Roland td30 is it better Than the new alesis strike pro for the sound and the quality? Thank you! Mike..

  • @stefanmandakovic5688
    @stefanmandakovic5688 Pƙed 4 lety +2

    Hey Justin! Can you make a video on the strike module played with Roland pads/cymbals?? Are the sounds of the strike better overall?

  • @haukurorsson833
    @haukurorsson833 Pƙed 4 lety +34

    It would be nice to see how the ATV EXS-5 stacks up in comparison to those two sets.

  • @Archetype123
    @Archetype123 Pƙed 3 lety +8

    Put a Strike Pro SE on order today thanks to your phenomenal videos. Having previously owned 2 Roland kits (TD-11 and 25), I was looking for something with better value for money over the TD-27. The toms on the Alesis kit sound so natural. It seems Roland still can't get past that machine gun sound that I've always known them for. Thanks for the quality videos!

    • @whiskyweasal89
      @whiskyweasal89 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      Any follow up after having the kit? Did you like the strike pro or do you wish you got another Roland?

    • @Archetype123
      @Archetype123 Pƙed 2 lety +13

      @@whiskyweasal89 I actually returned it nearly 6 months later as I just couldn't get along with the awful hi hat. Everything else with the kit was pretty great to be totally honest. The sensitivity of the hi hat, missed hits, terrible zone triggering just made it unusable for me. This was after a ton of back and forth with Alesis and even sending me a new module. I wish I would have gotten a TD-27 at the end of the day 100%. Hope that helps!!

    • @jpaulotv247
      @jpaulotv247 Pƙed 2 lety +2

      People need to understand that Roland is simply the better company and stop wanting to believe Alesis will do the job, cause it will not.

    • @jpaulotv247
      @jpaulotv247 Pƙed rokem

      @fartpoobox ohyeah tell me more about it when it breaks down

    • @renatozeru
      @renatozeru Pƙed rokem

      That comparison between TD-27 and Alesis Strike Pro SE should never be made. It's a non-contest situation. The TD-27 is better in basically everything but the size/number of pads.

  • @Henry14arsenal2007
    @Henry14arsenal2007 Pƙed 3 lety +2

    So can you connect the Alesis to your PC/DAW through USB and have full control? That part wasnt clear. Also, can you extend the inputs of the module using another module without having to use split cables, i heard its possible?

  • @MajorOSC
    @MajorOSC Pƙed 3 lety +7

    Strike pro was the only set Ive ever played that had realistic tactile feel and not that springy bouncy behavior I get from Rolands
    =

  • @gregwilliams2764
    @gregwilliams2764 Pƙed 3 lety

    I have over $1000 in Toontrack software. So modula doest matter except for the digital snare and ride. Love that

  • @alanvaughan2937
    @alanvaughan2937 Pƙed 3 lety

    Does the Strike still have long load in times for the kits and the effects when switching between kits as a live player it was my biggest gripe, some of the load in times were 35 40 seconds..I'm glad they fixed so many of the problems. I'm an original Strike owner and I could write a book on the negative experience I had with this kit. I'm still using the pads but have been using a TD 30 Module for two years now ..I'm still fixing the odd pad for various problems but it seems to be holding up Ok ...thank you for all of your video's you have been great help thru my Elec. drum journey

  • @Chad_Fuckhammer
    @Chad_Fuckhammer Pƙed 2 lety +2

    I think it's a way better idea to get a nicer mid tier Roland than to buy a top Alesis even though I can definitely see the temptation in it. With a Roland you can shop around for deals upgrading it over time. You can save quite a bit of money and it's kinda like playing as you play. Plus it's really fun and rewarding to customize gear. And in the end you'll have something with a really high resale value if you're wise and vigilant. That's what I've been doing. I started out with a lightly used TD-25KV. So far my upgrades have been a RDH-102A Noise Eater double bass pedal I got 50% off open box, 2 PD-125BK's, a KD-140C and a black shell wrap for the kick drum. It's set up as a 6-pc. 1 PD-85, PD-2 PD-105, 2 PD-125BK, KD-140C, VH-12, 2 CY-12, CY-13R and RDH-102A. Looks really nice. Although it could use a nicer looking rack. The rack that comes with a TD-25KV makes the kit look more like a toy than I'd prefer

  • @adilakif0061
    @adilakif0061 Pƙed 4 lety +8

    I am in between Alesis Strike Pro SE and Roland VAD306. Great video as always.

    • @ericknunez4754
      @ericknunez4754 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      same, have you decided yet?

    • @dwayneevans683
      @dwayneevans683 Pƙed 3 lety

      Really thats easy, Whenever you have a choice as close as these two, its real easy Rolabd VAD306 is a way better drums set!

    • @AerisVelivolus
      @AerisVelivolus Pƙed 2 lety

      I'm in the same situation, also considering Yamaha DTX 8KM!

  • @andre-dx4yw
    @andre-dx4yw Pƙed 3 lety

    i just bought nthe Alesis and glad i did awesome kit and way better than my original strike pro, tried the roland and alesis and the alesis just sounded way better

  • @skateorbri
    @skateorbri Pƙed 3 lety +1

    Hey Justin, I’m on the fence between the Roland vad506 and the Alesis SE myself and was hoping you had some advice on that either or scenario? Also, is it possible to swap out the heads for acoustic heads and play a gig on the Alesis or 506 acoustically? That would solve a ton of issues

  • @gregwilliams2764
    @gregwilliams2764 Pƙed 4 lety +2

    I’ve been looking at both of there thanks for your I put. I have SD3 so what the sounds are irrelevant to me. My new Yamaha mixer has a built in interface so that will lower latency from strike pro SE. plus payments are only $208/ mo instead of $250/month for one year another selling point for strike! Can probably use a bigger ride from ATV with the strike module if you want or get the 17”ozone or China. Then use the 16” ride as another crash!Sd3 has ccmapping for snares and hihats so that will improve strike module sound better stage presence a plus in strike plus a good Alesis amp for not much seen it for $299 not now. But everything is negotiable, right. I vote strike overall now that the hihat problem seems to be solved

  • @CristianRojas
    @CristianRojas Pƙed 2 lety

    Great video! I'm interested in the Alesis. Just a quick question please. Have you tried connecting the Alesis to ezdrummer or superior drummer? I'm especially interested to know if the cymbal chokes work in superior/ez drummer. Thanks again!

  • @70mcnevin
    @70mcnevin Pƙed 4 lety +40

    I was torn between these two, but for my needs the Roland fits the bill much better. I record demo's at home. Space savings are important. The smaller footprint and knowing that I won't be transporting this kit from my home studio is consideration number 1. Rolands digital snare and ride, higher resale value as percentage of original sale price along with notoriously fantastic and sturdy build quality are consideration number 2. Taking some cue's from the ultra high quality TD-50 with Bluetooth, and the ability to send out 28 tracks of data via USB helps massively as I also integrate into my DAW so that was my 3rd consideration. In my opinion, the Alesis kit is very 80's looking and just screams "cheap" to me. The shininess isn't alluring to me. The addition of more cymbal and tom pads and the color screen, that essentially adds nothing to the playability, seems like another attempt at Jack of All Trades, Master of None. You mention triggering differences, and that is a major consideration from my perspective. The whole idea is to get a non-digital "feel" from Electronic set, and to just know without thinking about it, that the Roland will respond accordingly, all the time. I need that fluidity and confidence. The Roland to me is the Acura of drum sets. You know you're getting high quality, dependability and good if not great perfomance. The Alesis is the Dodge Charger (V6 version). It looks great and has potential for high performance and does some things pretty well, but It doesn't give you the feeling of high quality and great re-sale value. Which one will still be kicking ass in 7-10 years? I'd put my money on the Roland.

    • @steezyboiiii808
      @steezyboiiii808 Pƙed 4 lety +2

      In my opinion the Alesis has way better sounding crashes and tombs the hi hat is a little weird but you get used to it so again my opinion but.edit this comment was late at night and i was fanboyin lol

    • @70mcnevin
      @70mcnevin Pƙed 4 lety +6

      @@steezyboiiii808 if you have the Alesis, im not knocking it. I really was torn between them for several weeks before pulling the trigger. I'm sure the Alesis will fit the bill for many folks. But one hidden unexpected surprise that I found within the TD27, is the ability to tweak everything to your hearts content. Some stock sounds are "meh". A few are really, really great, and some are outright bad. But, I got the same impression from the Alesis, and Roland makes the very best snare and ride in the business as far as I can tell. I added an extra tom and cymbal splash, upped the kick pad to a bigger/better model, and now I am beyond happy with every practice and recording session..

    • @steezyboiiii808
      @steezyboiiii808 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      Don McNevin yes that’s a good argument. And I know you weren’t crap in on it lol

    • @steezyboiiii808
      @steezyboiiii808 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      @@70mcnevin i feel like if roland gave you bigger tombs and 3 crashes it would be perfect but i hope you enjoy it and have much success with it

    • @jasonhawkins8022
      @jasonhawkins8022 Pƙed 3 lety +3

      I just did the same thing and went for the Roland bundle from sweetwater. I would like to upgrade the bass drum and add one more cymbal but other than that I think I made the right choice. I do think the alisis has better sounds but I don't want a broken set in a year.

  • @LonnieRenda
    @LonnieRenda Pƙed 4 lety +4

    Justin,
    Great video as usual. You favor the Strike Pro SE over the TD27KV, but is it worth the extra expense compared to the TD17KVX which I know you really like from other videos. Is it worth $900 more?

    • @alext4124
      @alext4124 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      Justin I'd be interested as well in your answer

  • @joshferry3628
    @joshferry3628 Pƙed 4 lety +2

    I really like the 27. I own a 17 a 9 and a DM 10. I think I will sell all of them and get a Strike module. I don't mind Roland sounds but buying the 27 and having to shell out the money for the snare and the ride being I own a full set of ATV cymbals (Besides the hi-hat I have VH-11) just doesn't make sense. What do you guys think?