How To Play Warhammer 40k As CHEAPLY As Possible
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This isn't turning into a warhammer 40k only channel, but I wanted to help those who're interested in getting into the game and were afraid of the price point
Cool cool
Cool cool
Honestly this is very helpful coming from someone who really wants to start getting into Warhammer 40k but doesn't want to be broke broke
MagikarpUsedFly hi
Is there going to be a second channel or will events like these be on your main channel
"Most people in the hobby are really really nice"
*continues to introduce league players to the hobby*
ValliX people in the 40k community are as nice as the league players. They’ll get song very well.
@@HiveTyrant25 Imagine thinking league players are nice.
@@LanNguyen-tc4fg it's probably depend on rank and game mode. In my expericence, Aram player seem to be pretty nice, Ranked is depend on promo and how burn out the player are (you can kind of tell), and Urf/Arurf is just a melting pot of the best and the worst of us. Unfortunately, i have don't have much experience with dorminion (seem to be filled with bots, last i played) , and twisted treeline, so i can't say anything on those player base.
@@phillipdo3577 Unfortunately, dominion is long gone and twisted treeline was removed this season
The garbage tier league players would never invest into 40k
I’d add something else: if buying used models, there’s a safe way to remove the paint with water based nail polish remover (NOT alcohol based; that will melt the plastic). After that, you’re free to repaint the models. Ezpz, cheap models for your armies.
Edit: Some comments have pointed out that the problem isn't alcohol but acetone in the solution. ACETONE will melt te plastic, careful!
A long soak in Simple Green also works, that's what I usually do. Just leave it in there for two days and then scrub with a tooth brush.
I'm fond of LA's Totally Awesome. They sell it at the dollar store, and it's comparable to Simple Green.
@@MrSJPowell alcohol is no problem, acetone (which is often used in nail polish) melts the miniatures!
Dettol. DETTOL MY BROTHERS! If there is one single trick I can spread to everyone out there, it's that Dettol can be used to safely remove paint from plastic and resin miniatures, it's super gentle on the model, just needs about a 15 minute soak and some light brushing with a toothbrush or something followed by a good wash to remove the smell of Dettol.
Alcohol based will NOT melt the plastic. It's not the alcohol. I strip paint of plastic models with 90% ethanol all the time and can even let them soak for days without issue.
kill team is absolutely amazing for playing the game cheap! small, more intense unit vs unit combat instead of army vs army! it’s also a lot quicker to play, you can play a game in less than an hour
JUST KEEP PUTTIN THOSE EPISODES OUT PLS
THEY ARE PRETTY ENTERTAINING
YEAH JUST PRETTY
@@imhappywithmyna5184 thats all i had in mind at the time
I paid $5 for my brushes at Walmart. Take care of them, they'll last a year .
Paints, walmart. Primary colors and white and black. There are online mixing tables for citadel colors. Not exact ......but good.
Diiiiiiiig for deals on minis.
A lot of people have abandoned games workshop bc of nazi prices. So they have mini games where you can use any mini and write out stats or character cards.
I use beer bottle caps as bases, use the bottle as a holder lol
I don't even intend to play the game, I just love the passion in the videos lol
did they uploaded ep2 already??
The problem with this game is not the money, it’s the fact that you need a friend to play it. :D
play Dawn of War (1 or 2) then
blackstone fortress can be played single player.
Eh you can play campaign stuff there’s a reason they sell boxed games outside of the main line war game
Bartek Lis as true as this is the money is pretty bad
@@samaelmorningstar8082 you could get a 2000pt army for the price of 5 or 6 AAA video games, you can obviously take as long as you want to get there by adding squad by squad. My friend plays Golf and just one decent club costs over £100 then you have other costs for membership etc. So 40k as a hobby is pretty cheap in comparison, it used to be cheaper and i wish it was but you've just got to be smart when buying and not jump on the bandwagon when they release the new stuff.
Matt: “Every army has a start collecting box!” *cries in death guard*
With dark Imperium you got the best start collecting vox
@@denniswestermeyer4096 but i dont want gaymaris :(
Cries in Grey Knights
@@ThatGuy-eu2vt You can just re-sell them. Or thrown them in the fire place as a sacrifice to to the dark gods. Or kit bash them with other chaos units and make traitor primaris.
Cries in Raven Guard
"How To Play Warhammer 40k As CHEAPLY As Possible" "Don't buy a 2000 point army outright"
*Laughs Nervously, looking at my 3k of Thousand Sons and Necron* Y-y-yeah.
Dunno why I'm watching this, I'm already in too deep.
My tip for saving money: DO NOT BUY CITADEL BRUSHES. You can grab a few cheap brushes and grab a "Windor and Newton series 7 size 0" for about $13 from amazon for the super detailed work, get some brush soap too. My W&N brush has lasted me nearly 3 years, and is still in near perfect condition. Citadel brushes start to turn to shit after like... 3 uses.
And your next line will be: "my necron army is mostly nihilakh because i like egyptan culture and mythology"
@@eisgnom7383 *sweating*N-no.
(but yes)
* Nervously laughing in 5k of Orks *
* Hopelessly chuckling while looking at 9k IG Army* Y-yah... B-baneblades are cheap...
Yeah me looking at my 16,6k chaos army and my other 1k unbuild stuff
Me: close enough to 3k
If this turned into a memetastic 40k channel I wouldn’t even be upset
As long as Bricky starts a..
So you want to Main.....series
I'm upset it ISN'T a WH 40k channel
40k Memes are great honestly
We need more 40k youtubers to be honest.. goods one like luetin and bricky and majorkill and less people like arch and onemindsyndicate. that be the dream fellas that be the dream
Dude I hate you, first you got me addicted to lol again and now warhammer XD
Great content, keep it up
PAPApedro69 rip wallet
Free rules online are great but I reccomend once you've thought and changed your mind afew times about which army you want to play.I reccomend getting the codex.They aren't that expensive and the lore and artwork and colour schemes will inspire you.
”DO NOT START WITH 2000 POINTS”
*Sweats violently*
*Waiting for my 2000 chaos starter army to arrive from the UK*
Don Raccoonis, Overlord of the Recycle Bin yeah I started with Magnus Mortarion and the old dark vengeance
why would you do that? its like joining ranked match just getting into lol. you will get your shit kicked out.
Dude
Well iwon all my matches in the beginning so it worked
Welp too late, already just payed $300 on warhammer. But thanks for helping me with getting my friends into it. I started when you showed your pt1. Won my first match recently.
Heh... Hehehe... Hahaha
HAHAHAHAHAHAH, ONLY 300? YOU SMOL BABY BOI!
TRY A FULL GRAND!
KILL ME
@@Demonlord242 oof try 4 - 5 grand
Honestly 300 is very reasonable, I know people who invested grands into this game
@@juannaym8488 [Laughs in owning 3 baneblades]
[slowly devolves into crying in owning 3 baneblades]
@@Wodferd oh my god you own 3 baneblades???
It's 4 am and I couldn't sleep because I felt like I missing out on something, can't believe it was this fuckwad's video
Love your Warhammer series btw, keep it up Matt!
I’ve been thinking about getting into Warhammer recently and these, and other videos, inspired me to visit my local game store. $600 later and I’m now a proud AdMech commander. Hope to see many others on the battlefield!
Be sure to set some more money aside, AdMech is getting new models soon!
Will Fischer I had no idea, I kind of felt like the codex felt thin, even more excited for tech god supremacy!
you took AdMech, and just when I thought I might like you
@@PlagueOfWasps www.warhammer-community.com/2020/01/24/from-aelves-to-zoats-previews-from-lvogw-homepage-post-1fw-homepage-post-1/
And
www.warhammer-community.com/2019/11/30/reveals-from-the-warhammer-40000-open-daygw-homepage-post-1/
Ryan Cunningham honestly it was the Transuranic Arquebus on the start collecting box that spoke to me, In the world of mo dakka I had no idea precision existed.
It does help that they have all the big guns though....
solid tips broski!
Yo I love your vids
Whoa goobertown hobbies what are YOU doing here
Little brother walks into my room and touches one of my units.
Me: *whomst has summoned the almighty one*
I recently started playing 40k. For the time i stick to second hand models, preferably pre painted so i can start playing with a somewhat good looking army.
I'm almost at 100€ spent with some lucky shots(like some broadsides for under 12€ each) and i can easily get to 1300 points. It's a great hobby and although the rules at first seem intimidating i already felt comfortable playing during my second session.
I would recommend Wargames like 40k to anyone keen on strategy games as the nature of tabletop games offers so much choice and place for originality. The social component is also something i really like.
When you go to buy models don’t go to an actual games workshop. It’s almost always cheaper to buy from third party hobby shops.
Guys, for the books just know there is a TROVE of knowledge for this. You know a TROVE!!
Damn I was just watching ur ap Warwick vid, and this masterpiece of a notification showed up
I'm slowly being lured in by Warhammer, this isn't helping dammit.
AoS/Fantasy to be exact
If you go Chaos it's an easy way to double dip
@@GetOverHereGaming13 definitely those Beast of Chaos/Beastmen look fun
@@lilysdong1457 I mean more like some of the Daemons. Those are really the only crossover. I recommend either Tzeentch or Slaanesh
@@GetOverHereGaming13 oh yeah though not really eyeing on daemons.
Try Total War Warhammer if you like fantasy.
For buying models I highly suggest the "Buy Sell and Swap" Facebook groups. There you can find models in various stages of use for dirt cheap prices because people often have leftovers. You might not find what you need immediately, but there are new posts/listings so if you're patient you can find a really great deal on what you want. I recently got 3 Death Guard HQ's and a squad of Plague Marines for only $15.
"Warhammer Buy Sell and Swap" for the UK
"Warhammer Australia Buy Swap Sell" for Australia
"BUY SELL TRADE Warhammer 40k" and a lot more if you look them up.
Always pay with Paypal though and don't be afraid to ask for more pictures to make sure you're getting what you want.
Also if you ever see these acronyms on a listing and wonder what they mean
NIB - New in Box (Brand new, still in the original box it was sold in)
NOS - New on Sprue (The models are still on the plastic frame but are unpainted, just lacking a box)
OOP - Out of Production (This means the model is from an older set/run and is no longer sold by Games Workshop)
Assembled - The model is built so you don't have to do it. But that also means you don't have the chance to customise/pose it how you want. They're typically a lot cheaper than NIB/NOS tho
Primed - Assembled and just has a coat or two of spray paint.
I always knew about table top simulator, but I never would have thought of playing war hammer on it. I'd absolutely love to get into the real thing but I don't really have the money to spend, even if I was buying as budget as possible. Before this video I thought I'd only be able to watch them play war hammer but now I can at least try by playing online. Thanks Matt
Uhhh, hey Matt, that "Russian Website" you mention several times in the video. It isn't legal. The fact that you mentioned it by name means it will likely be nuked by the GW Legal team in a week or two. Would it be possible to re-upload this and redact that info? It's a really great resource to have and I doubt it'll exist for much longer if this stays up. It may already be too late.
And fucked up too because I'd even pay for a website like *redacted, blam!*. Having to buy a ton of books just to play the recent version of the game is just bad practice from the company, but hey GW hungry for dat money.
do you mean the wahawiki? or did he cut it out already?
Yep it is illegal because I recieved "Infringement removal request" from GW. But don’t worry mate, they will not take me down that easy ;)
I got to that part and immediately started yelling, "NO THEY ARE GONNA CEASE AND DESIST MY FAVORITE WEBSITE!"
Vassal the predecessor of Table Top Simulator got into it with GW's legal team.
"Every army has a start collecting"
*Cries Dark Angels, Grey Knights, Sisters of Battle, Death Guard, and Adeptus Custodes*
Rip my imperial knight babies
Great video oh now to get into the 40k! I definitely suggest table top simulator I play with my brother on it from across the country. The actual table top game is a lot more fun for us though, because the battles take so long it basically turns into an all day potluck, five or so of my buddies and bro together with drinks, snacks, talking about lore, games, marvel, rl shit, tactics, always ends with a BBQ for dinner.
For painting: get Plastidip as a primer, if you need to do a gradient use an sponge (the big ones for car washing and just cut them up or make up triangle sponges work too) use acrylics, and remember to seal your work, there are a lot of sealents and if you are using acrylics then any one will work just fine
Are you going to introduce some of the more welcoming hobby / gaming channels on youtube?
Off the top of my head
Miniac - Hobby - Competitive Painter
Tabletop Minions - Hobby - Awesome dude!
Mini War Gaming - Gaming - Very prolific battle reports
SkaredCast - Lots of battle reports - competitive player
WinterSEO - Best Narrative campaigns and games
MoarHammer - WinterSEO business partner who also does fun friendly batreps
TheOneDudeOnline almost pro gaming is also amazing
“Getting in to 40k as cheap as possible”.
MFW I spent double on models because Death Korps of Krieg troops are too cool...
You can get (sorta) cheap death Corp on eBay
Most Warhammer channels over 10k subs have deals with GW that make them unable to say such things, you are really helping people out. That's a really big deal, thanks for spreading the hobby!
I'm here with you since 2014 and have like 5 years of experience with Warhammer, never thought one of my fav yt channels and my fav hobby would combine. I'm super happy they did! Welcome aboard (again) and I hope you have a lot of fun with the game!
Everyone says not to use Ceramcoat and Apple Barrel acrylic craft paints on miniatures, but for decades I've been doing exactly that to great success. $1.69 per 2oz bottle goes a LONG way towards saving a ton of money on paints, and they're easy to mix for new shades & highlights, or thin with water for washes. Just make sure to spray on a clear finish coat or glaze once the paint dries to protect your paint job and it'll be fine. There, that's HUNDREDS saved on Citadel paints & inks.
Matt: find pdf of the books
games workshop: **DEVIANT LOCATED**
When’s Part 2 of your Journey to 40k series?
Karp made a post on the community tab addressing this, the series will be monthly, so we're 1-2 weeks away from the next one. I share your anguish at this news.
20:00
Random Guy - Oh lol I’m an idiot
What drove me away from playing tabletop was back in highschool I never had enough money to compete with the bigger 2000 point armies so I'd always get my shit kicked in pretty fast
So the only thing I can add to this topic is for the people in the Phoneix, Arizona area. There is a gamestore opening in April that will have a checkout library, where you can checkout units of about 12 different 40k armies and play them in leagues for 1 dollar per unit. So to test different armies and learn the game will only cost 3-5 dollars for a 500 point game with rules included. You can use the checkout in leagues as well so if u only have 1,000 points you could still participate in a 2,000 point tournament. It is going to be like that for 40k and multiple other tabletops.
"A couple of days go" Uhhh Matt that was 2 WEEKS ago
I love how he looks like he's on the verge of tears for the whole video, as if the fact that he spend $1000 on plastic minis for a game he's never played is finally sinking in
I'm actually kind of sad he talked about Wahapedia. When the list builder website became mainstream GW shut it down hard.
I'm 3 years in and the way you get addicted is when you push through all the time and pain and your first unit of 5 guys is painted then your next unit, then the next.
Started with Tau. I main Blood Angels now for the past 2 years. Still painting. Still love/hating it. I hope the community continues to grow.
Love how you get so interested on the fantastic universe of Warhammer
That said...WHEN'S BLUD BOWL, BOI???
More people getting into 40k? By the silent king, that's some good news.
Another way to save money is to look into what kind of army you want to run. Army's can be horde or elite and horde are typically more expensive. A 5 man Custodian guard squad costs around £35 and gives you roughly 240 points because they're beefy bois. A 30 man Ork squad costs around £60 and gives you roughly 220 points because they're a numbers based force.
As matt said you can also proxy models, so for example two boxes of custodes troops and two jetbike squads will cost you around £140. Run one custodian as a Shield captain and one bike as a shield captain. You now have a battalion of a shield captain, shield captain on bike, three 3 man custodes squads and a 5 man bike squad. That's a 1200 point army for reasonably cheap.
Planning your army ahead on something like battlescribe saves a lot of cash in the long run.
People also make the mistake of thinking an army is cheaper if you get more bang for your buck in terms of models, it's often the other way around. An army is comprised of points so the more points you get for your money is where you save money. Sure buying 5 dudes for £35 instead of 10 dudes for £15 seems less worth it. But if you need five boxes of those £15 guys to match the points of a single £35 box then you aren't actually saving money.
Also worth mentioning, if you hate the paintjob from ebay models you can just strip the paint and repaint them!
If you want a fun way to get into the lore I would recommend the Emperor text to speech series on youtube. The story line isn't canon but they do inform you of dam near every faction as accurately as possible. That and its is Hilarious.
"When you're starting off, only look at Battalions and Brigades"
>looking at Brigades at all when starting, with that many model requirement.
Some armies, namely the Astra Militarium (Imperial Guard) can fill that out super cheap (points wise).
IMO, Patrol Detachments and Battalions might be a better start.
@@angrygnome44 Yeah every person I've gotten into the hobby I recommended to start with a barebones Patrol at like 500 points and then fill out the Patrol to its limit. That way they got to use/try models from the different force org slots and it gives a good base for moving into almost any detachment type, and sets you up for detachment combinations which are so important at higher points values.
My friend had an issue with this when he started 40k. Be careful what spray primer you use. Some leave a shiny coat that the detail paint won't stick to.
You can also make appropriately sized cardboard cutouts of the models with the right size bases. I did that with GW:s other game Adeptus Titanicus, and at the same time changed the measuring system from inches to cm, downscaling it so you can play it on a normal table like a board game.
I love how you've proven to me that no matter what you upload I'll still watch it. I have no interest in any of this but damn it's entertaining to watch you talk about what you're interested in. Well done Matt!
For someone who used to Edit porn, I would expect a surplus of testosterone in you to grow facial hair with
I love that you're the only one in the comments section talking about the mustache and not the cost of warhammer
‘You wanna thin your paints’ - someone’s heard the word of Duncan ;)
I'd also like to add that if you buy pre-painted units and you don't like the paint job then you can use strip the paint. Use ELO from Testors and youtube some tutorials.
Also Rust-oleum 2x primer works really well as well. Get a white and a black and do the black on the whole model and then white pointing from the top. It's called a zenithal highlight and will really add some life into your paint job. Make sure when you're priming you hold it far enough away so that the chems evaporate before it hits the plastic otherwise it will eat your plastic.
Hey, you can download the books for free at this shady websi..."gunshot sounds"
"User has been executed by the inquisition for illegal distribution of heretical tomes"
"Brother, get the flamer, the heavy. flamer."
You will get this soon maybe magikarp? ;3
If you’ve got a Warhammer store near you and you’re feeling the call, they do free intros where you get to build, paint, and play, then keep the model after! Usually there’ll be regular customers in at weekends, so you can get a feel for the community as well.
Sup.
Kitbashing is a great way to cut some money. Or usually some models come with extra parts of aditional weapons, heads, etc options - so a great example is T'au fire warriors - you get multiple weapons and heads even legs, if you buy just some torso's from ebay and smal bases, then you can make about 6-7 more models for just a couple dolars for the additional bits.
Anyway, great video dude. Got me very excited seein you getting into 40k.
Cheers.
Damn I'd love an AoS vid, League definitely has Warhammer blood in it (Twitch is definitely a Skaven)
Nobody:
Absolutely nobody:
My weird ass Uncle who's always around children: 0:09
Excuse me
My friends and I have been playing 40K for around 6 years in total now I think and I can still remember us sitting together in a circle around one of our computers and watching all these awesome Battlereports, thinking to ourselves "man we will never be able to make Terrain like this or paint our models as good as that."
I think a good tip to people starting out with warhammer and especially painting minis or building terrain is watching a ton of tutorials online. I was amazed at the speed we all got better at painting from literally just watching people showing off painting techniques in videos.
As for Terrain: It's similar to the whole mountain dew can thing. If you and your friends agree to a wooden box being a hill, then heck it's a hill.
There are a lot of cheap ways to get nice terrain: For example MDF Terrain. It's lasercut terrain made of medium-density fibreboard and is cheap as hell compared to all the plastic terrain.
But you don't even have to buy MDF terrain - making Terrain yourself feels rewarding as fuck and is way easier than people think. With just a board of styrofoam you can make amazing stuff like cliffs, rocks, temples and way more. Same with painting minis: watching a lot of cool Terrain tutorials is a big help here.
We got so many nice and easy to do ideas from watching amazing CZcamsrs like TheTerrainTutor and by now we build all of our Terrain by ourselves.
I hope atleast some of this is helpful! Loving the series Matt! Have fun with 40k guys!
My recommendation that Matt touched on is to start with skirmish-level games. I started a Warhammer club at my community college and I got a decent amount of people to start off with Necromunda: Underhive, and we've all had a blast spending no more than $42 on GW plastic (not even including the 15% discount you get a local game store), snagging the occasional rulebook and the various starter sets along the way to add in terrain and other fun stuff. I'd personally recommend doing so with a group of people and starting off a proper Dominion campaign and have it last a number of weeks that you feel like, with the winner at the end getting a pat on the back for their reward. For Necromunda, look into Yaktribe, it's a miracle of a website that requires 0 money and 0 downloading. Also, if sci-fi isn't much of your thing, there's Age of Sigmar that has similar skirmish-level games available (or if you're feeling spicy, you and your friends can aid in resurrecting Mordheim today!).
Good tip about the wet pallet thing. Have been painting minis for a bit off and on and haven't heard that before. Big ups.
honestly it just makes me happy you are uploading aging dont quit
Miss those days where I paint with my friends in a local game store. Got a few commission projects once in a while and the Tau project i did get the best painted model in one of the competition. I do have some old videos on how i painted my models. :) Can't wait to see more content from this channel. I still have some unpainted ork models, collecting dust. I'm a painter and more of a collector than a player.
-There is some package that have rule books inside. So you may not have to buy those books, those package are normally a good chunk but they contain so much that they cost less by fingurine. You need to know the rules but one rulebook for many players when you play among friend is enough+ your army codex.
-Starter set contains two army so if you start one and your friend start the other one, one or more kit where you take your army parts might be a good deal.
-Modification of the figurine is part of the hobby but also a way to lower the cost. Make a figurine that was blow up by a mine and you have some part of figurine to make another one. Some army like orks are known to steal stuff and make it their own so you can have a lot of fun in using low cost figurine that you modify to make them count as the costly one. You will begin to keep cork from wine bottle, small rocks, dry herbs etc to have a lot of stuff to use as base for the figurine. You can save a lot by using your imagination
-Watch for used parts. A lot of people buy stuff that they don't have the time to paint and finally resell them near mint or they have parts left because they chose a configuration.
-magnet are good because you can change the configuration of a figurine when your army change or the rule change
-Table can be a 4/6 sheet that you put over a smaller table or the ground. Stores will provide tables to play there so it might be an option to skip the table
-You manipulate the figurine a lot so use paint made for figurine or that you know is hard or the paint will scratch or peel. Learn to mix color to have less different one in stock. Learn to use wet pallet because acrylic paint dry fast and you will lose less of it. clean you brush well so they last longer.
1) Battlescribe and Wahapedia can only be used as supplementary data sources, they are not guaranteed to be comprehensive or correct or up to date, so you still need books. Thankfully you can find PDFs or epubs of all the books if you look hard enough. Keep in mind that it's technically illegal though.
2) The little purple symbol with white cards and dice in the middle of the server list on the left at 3:49 is for the server called "TTS Warhammer 40k" and that's where most of the people that make 40k mods for Tabletop Simulator live.
3) Let's hope Wahapedia survives after being advertised in this video because it's also technically illegal and GW loves gimping crap due to copyright infringement.
Best thing imo is what you said buying them on Ebay, buying paintstripper (make sure to look around for paintstripper that won't also melt your plastic models though) and still being able to paint them yourself, which for me at least is most of the hobby. St Marcs paintstripper is one, but idk if thats available everywhere.
Yeah, All hobbies can be pricey.
Working out - Gym/equiptment
Cars - Car and accessories
Music - instruments/lessons
So this isnt "THAT" expensive compared to other hobbies.
You buy plastic toys, so compared to other hobbies this is not only more ecpensive its a rip off
Fun fact for those who want to get into 40k; if at any time you feel you want to join a tournament in your local town, they may require you to have these books! In my town theres no official games workshop employee breathing down our neck, but to keep the players from misquoting the rules we are required for any tournament or special games to have the codex and rules on hand. No print outs, no website, nothin'. The only printout we were allowed was for our army list
"You see in the second video why we don't do that", along with the promise of a new episode every month; after 8 months, gives you a broken man who has no hopes or dreams
And also btw 8 months and no new episode
Here's a cheap pro tip for storing and transporting your new models: go to your local home improvement store and buy three things. Large plastic containers with snap-lock lids, a thin sheet of steel (28 gauge works great), and a roll of magnetic tape. Glue the metal to the bottom of the container, and glue pieces of the magnetic tape to the underside of your models' bases. Now you have dust and waterproof storage, and models won't slide around when you travel!
Fun fact: Citadel black and white primer was the cheapest (non clear) plastic primer that I could find in my country (10 EUR / spray can).
The one thing you really don't want to go super cheap is colours. Don't buy super cheap colors, except you like to put a dozen layers of each color onto your model (yes...even darker colors).
Pro tip: if you are building any of the medium or larger models with multiple load-out options (like a Dreadnaught/Helbrute and up), use magnets! It costs a pinch more, and adds some labour to assembly, but you'll never end up "stuck" with a loadout. You might think a set-up looks rad as hell, but turns out to be crap, or an FAQ comes out and changes how something works. Magnets let you hot swap between loads of different bits lickety-split once you've put in the work to set it up. Also real great for transporting things, since most things you'd magnetize would stick out, so you're less likely to break stuff hauling it around.
You *can* magnetize smaller things like infantry models, but it is generally not worth the effort, outside of something like a single dude like a Captain or Sergeant who can use a bunch of different stuff. If you're doing magnets on infantry, it's not for ease of use, it's because you're swagging on people.
I remember when my friend made an entire army out of pinecones and matches.
Morale was low on my side...
My local Games Workshop always had a table with an preset skirmish to play.
Though I didn't venture further into 40k, it was a great way to get to know it.
Splitting a versus box with a friend is a good way to get started. There is usually at least 500 points per side and it comes with an abbreviated core rule book and the info for the units included and dice.
Ive had great success with Facebook buy/sell/trade groups for warhammer especially finding rarer models and them being way cheaper than new and alot of them sell them still on the sprue as well
I have a couple questions about future series like this.
1) Will there be more series like the 40k but for other games?
2) If so, what games or type of games would you be doing?
3) This is more of a request, trading card games, Yu-Gi-Oh! and Magic are the examples I'm thinking of.
(Here's a rant explaining the games and a somewhat good way to get into them) They would only be 1 or maybe 2 of these mini documentaries episodes. It costs less than $100 to get a competitive deck in YGO, but it's also boring and it doesn't feel like it's your deck so it would cost $100-$300 for a competitive one that you personalize, but I would recommend just making a deck that you want even if not good because then it's your deck not someone else's deck that you have a copy of, I would recommend buying packs and a couple starter/structure decks to mix together, or plan it out if you want to, if your really really new and just want to play one or two games, get a starter deck, the cyberse ones are kinda fine but the game is gonna get updated in a couple months changes the rules that they just changed like 2 years ago so keep that in mind, it's gonna get stupidly complicated if you don't think it is already, and Magic has different formats, my favorite being Commander or EDH, Magic you can either use a variety of websites like tapped out to make and price your deck for any or almost all formats, their are also little boxes you can buy for like $40 I think that give you a bunch of land, a little over 1/3 of you deck should be land which you use to play cards, packs and cards that aren't that bad, not broken like making you opponents hand their deck and yeeting their old one, but there's that for getting started and buying the cards individually if you have it planned out already, I still have the first deck I made out of one of those boxes when I first started just upgraded it time and again and it even changed from being a deck with no real format you would play in middle school to it into a commander deck.
Never played one of these games before, I mean like tabletop army games. But I've always been interested in both DnD and games like 40k but never got into it, mostly because I don't know how to get into it. So seeing you do just that is really fun and interesting, and I'm happy to follow you on this journey!
The best starting thing I've found is the +Paint Set series. You get a handful of models and the colors to paint 'em. Nice way to get to know if you are gonna flip your crap just from painting the models or if it is actually fun.
The best budget option for Warhammer on a budget is to play kill team or warcry. These are small scale skirmish modes, usually involving teams of 5-10 models. These are really fun games, with deep rules that focus on microing small minis. You can build full teams from a single box. For example, in kill team you can make single box teams for the following factions: space Marines, death watch, grey knights, adeptus costodes, adeptus mechanics, imperial gaurd, chaos space Marines, death gaurd, and more. Plus you only need one base book, and expansions if you love it. Boks has all the rules and base model data sheets. You can easily try out the game for 100 bucks.
The "throwing out" of Chapter Approved codexes are a grave heresy against the Imperium of Man. The Iqnuisition would like to know your location.
As someone who's been into Warhammer 40k budget edition for about 10 years, I have a couple extra pointers.
First, combine start collecting/other starter sets with eBay. Lots of people don't have a friend to split those starter sets with, but only want one team and will sell the other half for dirt cheap. Also, you can find start collecting boxes usually for about 15% off on eBay so you get like 4 units for about 70usd. When 8th edition came out, the Death Guard Bloat Drone box was $50, but I got 2 of them off eBay because they were the Dark Imperium edition for I think $14 a pop. They're completely identical, but I mean they were like 70% off. So check if the units you want are in any Start Collecting boxes or Starter Sets and go from there.
Second, get those cheap brushes from your local art store, but down the line, keep them so when you get nice brushes and want to use some nasty paints, you can fall back on your old sh***y brushes to get the job done without ruining your investment in the nice brushes.
Third, citadel does have some nice paints, but overall I really recommend going with Vallejo and only dipping into citadel when something really catches your eye that Vallejo doesn't have. Like Matt said, the Citadel paint pots are terrible. They have a latch but they also have a little paint scooper thing right next to it, so what will happen a lot of the time is your paint gunks up the latch and then it won't close properly. When it won't close properly the pot isn't airtight and it dries out. AND Vallejo paint pots are 17 ml whereas Citadel paint pots are 12 ml. AND ON TOP OF ALL THAT Vallejo is still cheaper, so by going with Vallejo you're getting more paint, that won't go bad, all for a cheaper price, in a more convenient dropper bottle.
Lastly, this point doesn't decrease your spending at all but kind of your perception of the value of things in 40k and miniature games as a whole. When you get into 40k, lots of people call it a hobby and not a game, and that's because the game is only one facet of the whole thing. There's modelling, painting, and playing that make up the whole 40k hobby. You won't appreciate nice models that are designed to be modeled and painted until you try to model and paint a bad one. But most people into 40k get a box and think, "Cool, now I get to make this, now I get to paint this, and now I get to play with this." Whereas a lot of people that are steered away from 40k get a box and think, "Ugh, now I have to make this, have to paint this, and only then do I finally get to play with it." To which I would comment, maybe 40k isn't for you then, just because you could get into MUCH cheaper hobbies with dinky miniatures that you don't have to paint and enjoy that game instead.
To try out Warhammer, I cut some circles out of a thich plastic sheet, printed images and unit names on a sticker printer and made tokens instead of using miniatures XD
You covered all the major things. one thing to add though would be making your own recasts. Blue stuff, green stuff and milliput can turn one box of models into 10 with some time and skill. Even on a smaller scale say you bought 5 sniper scouts but then you find the box only has 4 snipers and 1 heavy weapon make a cast on a sniper rifle and you save yourself having to buy another box or buying another 1 model from a bits site or ebay.
Get 4 custodes guard boxes. Costs 60 each but you can get them discounted most places for 50 so 200 in total. Altogether comes with 20 dudes. Make 2 your captains. Left with 18. Then make 3x3 dudes for your troop slots. That’s 1 battalion detachment. Now you have 9 left. Now make 2 more captains and 3 vexilla dudes as your vanguard detachment. 2 left can be made into anything extra. That’s roughly 1200 points right give or take right there. Spend 50 dollars on a venerable land raider worth about 400 points. Up to 1600 points. Get 2 and you’re at around 2000 points. 300 dollars can get you extremely close to 2000 points if you play the right army.
I found that the big battleforce boxes really give great value, like 150% value in some boxes . If mixed with a normal starter box and 1-2 units you can get a decent 1000 points army for under 200£.
Could also with some armies make a an okay 2000 points army with 2 battleforce boxes, 2 stater boxes and 3 unites for around 400£.
The biggest problem with battleforce boxes is that they are only out for a limited time.
a great money saver : let's say you got a tactical squad and you need a lascanon for it, you dont need to buy the devastator box (or any options for any unit that is'nt available in the box), just roam the internet for "bits" or "bitz" store and tada, you can buy just that piece of plastic you need, not an entire box. keep in mind the most popular pieces sells fast, but look everywhere and eventually you'll grab what you wanted.
Definitely good you made this video. As a 40k vet I would say it's a good idea to network with the established 40k groups and channels out there too. Tons of great people and info.
Just a quick note . All of us don't play a bunch of at all . We just collect and paint the mini's . Meaning some don't have to buy many units to start, just whatever you wana start building and painting.
Some gamestores, at least the two where I live, have a marketplace for used models as well. Helped me when I started 40k
With the ebay painted models you can repaint them by using a little tub of simple green. Toss them in the tub, leave them for a day, brush off all the paint
I got to your channel because of your Warhammer video. I recently started mini painting and I've always wanted to play Warhammer, so I'm glad for your videos and I can't wait for the next!
So this isn't about saving money. But for priming. Don't do it if it's humid out. You'll notice that your model will feel dusty or flakey. Take it slow, and do layers. When you paint in general you should be doing several layers of the paint once you thin it out with your wet pallet. It really makes the colors pop.
Print images of the units, glue them to a solid cardboard, cut them , and use a cardboard cross base to keep them vertical
Here's my tip for doing 40K on the cheap.
Bitz.
You always get extra weapons, arms, etc in Citadel kits, and there is a trade in these that you can use to give you more models at a cost of little to nothing.
You can offer to swap your Bitz with another gamer as you may have something they need while they have something you need. I've gotten parts I've wanted by doing so.
Also take a trip to your local Independent store and see if they have a Bitz box, you might not find exactly what you're after, yet you may find a perfect Counts-as. Usually it's cheap to buy from an Independent store, with Bitz costing pennies each.
Online there are Bitz sites that buy kits just to break down and sell pieces of, handy for kits parts that are normally hard to come by.
These sites do charge more for these bits than if you broke down the kit yourself, yet it's usually far cheaper than buying an entire kit for just a couple of pieces.
I built a 200pt Dark Eldar army as part of A Tale Of Many Gamers event by getting a load of extras from my local independent's Bitz boxes and from Bitz sites, and did it far cheaper than if I'd just bought from GW.
Though I did do a lot of Kitbashing.
Great guide. Great first episode too. Welcome to the hobby. If your ever in central Florida, we have a great community of players.
"Do not start with a 2000pt army!" Looks over to my Beast Snagga box, combat patrol, boarding patrol, 3 troop boxes, and a box of Kommandos.....
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I've been playing wh40k for 10 years and i didnt even know about wahapedia, amazing stuff! Thanks Magikarp
Honestly the start collecting sets are perfect. They have quite a good few models in and a good amount of points. Choose which one you like the most and spend £50 on it.