Joel Embiid has gone from TRAGIC HERO to TRAGIC VILLAIN this series - Zach Lowe | Get Up
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- Andraya Carter, Tim Legler and Zach Lowe join Mike Greenberg to discuss Joel Embiid's impact throughout the year and playoffs and what he needs to do for the 76ers to force a Game 7 against the Knicks.
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Take dirty plays aside? No, you do not take dirty plays aside. He’s dirty and hence is a villain. If his name was Draymond, ESPN would say take his skills aside…
Right!
Greeny said “the dirty plays was a separate conversation” while spotlighting the Robinson grab, not “dirty plays aside” and than became to speak about his physical condition.
ESPN were the ones who started the segment with from Tragic Hero to Tragic Villain as while as it being the title of the video. Sheesh mfers act like someone is forcing them to watch this. Hit the don’t recommend button.
@@GuavaConQuesoThat Robinson foot grab was just ONE thing. Stepping on Hart's leg. Elbowing Brunson. Dude has no shame.
Embiid has committed multiple dirty plays, not an isolated incident. He is a villain.
And you’re dramatic
@@SPACEKNOCKERZ76And you're a woke casual
@@MrOctober44ah there we go. New words to say. That you're a racist and you're racially bias against black people. How original.
I don’t know why these people are defending Embiid so much. His whole career has consisted of him getting knocked out of the playoffs and making up excuses for why he didn’t play well. He is an expert blame deflector. That’s been his entire career lmao
He’s blame himself every year. you know the first 4 years of his career they were trash right? And before harden had no pg lol before the jimmy team when did you have the sixers as a favorite in the east?
You have Bell Parsley?
Are you really that dumb or did you not know that he's playing on one leg ?
@@SPACEKNOCKERZ76 Never have I ever had sixers as favorites in the East because Embiid is a loser and not a leader. He never takes accountability. He blames teammates, he blames coaches, he blames fans, he blames refs, he blames everyone except for himself. Even if he is right sometimes, such as in the Ben Simmons case, there is a right way and a wrong way to handle it, and he routinely handles things the wrong way. I think he is a very stupid and deeply insecure person, and it always shows itself on and off the basketball court in big situations
@@mjprelicI like parsley quite a bit, but I’ve never heard of the bell kind. Where can I get some?
“There is no answer for Joel Embiid” yeah, that’s why he’s 30 and has never played in the conference finals…
TMac never made it out of round 1, yet fans worship him
He’s always been a villain. Flopping, grifting, dirty plays, whiny, more flagrant than Draymond and Dillon Brooks put together.
You’re just emotional and are exaggerating everything
Take a deep breath and calm down, no need to be so emotional 😂
Nothing wrong about his playing, he is hurt.
Everything wrong about the dirty plays.
The play on Robinson is such a joke, if Robinson did that to him he would've been ejected and mauled by the media.
It really looks bad for the league.
The refs handing the Knicks the win in Game 2 looks far worse for the league than Embiid getting a Flagrant 1 instead of a Flagrant 2..
@@klet I would have to disagree, both are horrible. But trying to injure a player in such a flagrant way is just unnaceptable.
Can’t wait till bros out of the playoffs early AGAIN!
Cryyyyyyy
@@DontaiDonn who’s crying? lol
@@benpmorris24 probs embiid again rn
MJ: Air Jordan
Kobe: Black Mamba
LeBron: King James
Embiid: Boo-Boo Embiid aka Joel Emplead
He’s always been the villain outside Philly that’s not new, he’s the most hated player in the NBA for some reason
cause trend hating is what is cool on social media. just look at tobias vs jimmy that gets parroted by casuals. it was never tobias over jimmy. all it takes is listenin to JJ's ep with jimmy to find out why he didn't come back to the sixers.
Because he’s a dirty player who chokes every playoffs and begs for awards in the media.
What is there to like about that?
That's a weird and lame reason to hate somebody @@tomcustis9272
@@tomcustis9272 cope harder
@@9FolesBDNcope harder? And he is out of the playoffs LOL stfu dog
Bad game 5! he had a triple double and 4 blocks.
What a dumb storyline ESPN is trying to build…. The fanbase in Philly is solidly around Embiid, for the guy to average a 31pt double double on one leg is crazy, and after what Philly went through with Ben simmons who refused to play because of a paper cut…. They appreciate what Embiid is doing even more.
No one wants to watch that slob shoot FTs all game, spends half the game either at the foul line, laying on the floor, or crying to the refs. Couldnt crack 20 last game because he only made 4 FTs
Read the room. This is not all about you.
How you have a 3 triple double and it’s a bad game 😂
Greeny is villain too. Entire ESPN is a villain to true sports fans.
A bad game for him is a career night for most
Thank you sir 👏🏾 embiid goated
Only if you're talking about bench players and role players lmao.
Every player who is in his tier is better than Embiid come postseason.
@@DontaiDonnembiid is a career choke artist
Yeh? And most players aren't on a max and considered one of the best players in the league that's in mvp conversations. He has a lot of bad nights, get off his d. He's at home now so maybe he'll let u come ride
Embiid's legacy will forever be the dirtiest, classless flopper who was given MVP by the Jokic haters
Where’s JJ Redick to talk basketball?
FACTS!!
@@jaimesantos14he’s on his podcast, another with LeBron AND he calls games. I think we’re getting JJ overload lol
ESPN is so lame, all they do is make dramatic headlines, can we talk basketball? Analytical? ESPN is appealing to its casual viewers with its trivial context.
Oh don't worry. OG cured Embiid's Bells Palsey for a bit with that tomahawk dunk.
HE WAS NEVER OUR HERO! HE WAS YOUR HERO! HE WAS ESPN’S SAVIOR FROM JOKIC! Nobody has ridden Embiid more than the ESPN network as a whole
Shut up…
Yall was attacking him long before this series
5 blk triple double is a bad game lol he could’ve had more dimes if dudes hit open shots.
also 9 turnovers and bad in the clutch you prolly forgot to mention that tho
@@rich1437I forgot to mention they won and his +/- this series.🤷🏻♂️ oh well. How brunson do in overtime?
@@SPACEKNOCKERZ76anddd he is out of the playoffs LOL stfu dog embiid is dogshit of an mvp
The Sixers have never gotten past the second round with Embiid and he has underperformed in the playoffs every year. That is a fact.
And if he did once 4 years ago what good would that do them now lol
Embiid has cemented his reputation as the dirtiest player of his generation, even surpassing Draymond Green. He kneed a man in his testicles, sending him to the floor groaning, he elbowed his opponent's leading scorer in the head, he stepped on a man's feet and another man's knees with his 300 lb body, and maybe worst of all he grabbed a man by the ankles and pulled him down while the man was in MIDAIR, a move that could have ended the man's CAREER. Embiid needs to be suspended and he would be suspended if the NBA had any interest in protecting the integrity of the league. Embiid's legacy is over.
Excuses after excuses. It’s as if they’re making excuses for him pre game so he’s allowed to have a bad game.
Who care about them. Joel said there’s no excuses already when he revealed his Bell’s palsy
The lack of human compassion for one dude by the entire NBA world is amazing to me how can you just yada yada Bell's palsy and a meniscus? Pizza for 2 years with a foot injury he had a back a broken face twice you know these things don't actually disappear right? So when he has a 19-point triple double everyone's like he sucks how about he grinded out a high six game despite guys advising him to shut it down for the season? Kat, kawhi get that benefit of the doubt. Heck even draymond has more good will. Your hate for this dude is unhealthy.
Embiid has been a villain. You media types have defended this underachieving clown!
Its not a tragic villain. You whack people in the face and do dirty plays on Robinson, and you are a deserved villain. I feel bad for the Bells Palsy, but that isnt an excuse for the multiple dirty plays this series alone.
That's a great thumbnail. He is definitely a flopper and grifter but that doesn't make him a Villain. Assaulting people because he's frustrated DOES make him a Villain, for sure, but that ain't tragic, Zachary. His true colors are coming out and the media is making light of it like Greeny trying to "take the dirty play out of it." Really? Can't wait to see him crying again.
If he didn't constantly flop, complain to the refs a dozen times each game, blame everyone else when the Sixers fail, maybe he'd br more well liked
Let the narratives begin
Before the jimmy year who had the Sixers as favorite in the East or good enough to make a run? I keep hearing he’s choked his whole career when Sixers were thrash for a chunk of it lol and his pg’s before harden was ish smith MCW McConnell fultz and Ben lol
The narrative is bull. But if you are out on the court I aint trying to hear no injury excuses
Luka didn't look injured or sick last night against the Clips nor did Jamal Murray looked like he had a strain calf in that Lakers game some of these injury reports are just creating legacy moments for that player and adds to their resume of a game where they are supposed to be injured they come out explode ....But when they play badly it's the injury ....
And Joel hasn’t. Only talking heads.
Of course the guy on the Internet who has probably never scored a basket in a real basketball game would say what you said.
@beedebawng2556 Nope I don't play basketball. I play rugby and no matter how fucked up my body is, if I am on the field and we lose injury is not an excuse
I would be fine with embiid if he wasn’t literally getting away unpunished for his dirty plays and being rewarded with free throws for flopping every single time. Him pulling Robinson’ leg while he’s in mid air was a disgrace and to just be given a flagrant one for that is unfair because if that’s draymond or Dillon brooks for ejection that’s a suspension, Robinson could’ve been seriously hurt and to act as if we can just take the dirty plays aside and give him credit for carrying his team while literally kicking the other team in the nuts is ridiculous.
What are these dudes yapping
He's a dirty villain
The fact he's playing thru whats going on...i think he's ready to call it a season. He looked uninterested in game 5. Almost like he was upset they won lol if they win the series thats even more games he'll play thru all the pain. Dudes a warrior man.
My Knicks gotta win tonight and end the series 🙏🏼🙏🏼🤞🏼.
😂😂😂😂😂bet they lose 76ers in 7 sucka
"You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain" 😂 dude got tired of being beat up so now he's fighting back!
This man is on one leg and can’t move the left side of his face. Idc he mvp in my book
No way Embiid plays this poorly again. He don't get enough credit he's playing on 1 leg and half a face and still anchoring his teams defense doesn't get talked about enough
Half a face is great.
He’s played poorly all series are you just tuning in?
@OBJYN788 played so poorly that his worst game was still impactful
@@OBJYN788NOT 😮
Just being on the court is impactful 😮
Did dude call Tobias Harris one of the Sixers best players? Has he watched a Sixers game?
Are we still Processing?
If Draymond averaged 28 they’d be making the same excuses!! Kick rocks!!
Embiid has earned every bit of criticism he's received. He mopes on the court & has horrible body language as a leader when the team is losing. He campaigned for the MVP by complaining. He blames EVERYONE for everything. Refs, teammates, coaches, Ben Simmons, the media. This guy just blamed the fans a few days ago! 😂🤦🏾♂️
Other than Lebron, there hasnt been a star player who has made more excuses than Lebron. But at least in Lebron's defense, he actually holds himself accountable on the court and has won championships. Bless Joel for all the inuries. But the excuses & bad play in big moments are on him
Outside criticism of Ben when did he make excuses? He’s called himself trash after every series loss but you only digest clips that’s just wrap for you.
Na he stating how he feels and he deserves everything he has worked for including the MVP and historically one of the greatest bigs. The criticism is just people who hate embiid for fun. And Embiid does take accountability so stop protecting your bias
@@Processing321 “the criticism is just people who hate Embiid for fun” yeah… not him trying to intentionally injure player or anything like that…
@@OBJYN788 he hurt somebody by accident it's not intentional
@@Processing321 “he just grabbed somebodies leg out of mid air by accident and then accidentally shoved him again on the ground” you sound pathetic
We are making him the villian because when is the time to stop with the excuses not even mentioning how he plays with all the fts and dirty plays
Brunson struggles 2 straight games: "OH HE WONT PLAY THAT POORLY AGAIN"
Embiid is sloppy with the ball but still has a triple double: "HES A TRAGEDY AND HE'S A ROBIN TO TYRESE MAXEY"
Dont think I didn't notice what Monica and the other chick (the one on set today) were hinting at yesterday.
one word: expectations
Philly has been doing 'The Process' for awhile now and Embiid has been an MVP and MVP candidate most years.. People expect results.. Brunson doesn't have these expectations.. yet.....
Maxey, needs to be Superman tonight 😮
@@dre32pitt2 niggas don’t make a whole team how are 6ers fans gonna expect anything when their team is garbage
Give Caesar what due to him
Only here for Legs and Zach opinions 🙌💯
Legacy game upcoming
Embid is a dirty player …….no excuses ….we don’t care if he is hurt….no excuse to hurt others
Villain? Hahaha. Alright, settle down.
His game is exposed to the casuals. Foul call merchant
His defense and gravity is the reason why sixers r so good
Foul merchant guys are the real casuals
nah they been ignoring that fact for the last 10 years what makes u think theyre gonna see it now lol
@@rich143710 years? Lmao Hes only been playing at this level for like 5 years lol he wasn’t getting calls when the sixers were trash and rotating role players in around him lol media has you in a choke hold.
FAKE MVP once again goes home in 1st round....SHOCK
Embiid must be expelled from the nba and his mvp title be taken away!!
Lmao salty McGee over here
@SPACEKNOCKERZ76 brainless here!
He plays dirty thats all
He became a villain when he won the pity mvp.
Embiid, is getting exposed as one of the nba's dirtiest players more so than draymond, and a very limited talent so called superstar.. he is also a total failure in the playoffs. more so than doc rivers.
Trade him.
10 years and nothing....
Trade...
Bye...
I can’t wait for 76ers to lose. Embid is a dirty flopping goof
This is so bad.
He's never been a tragic hero. The delusion is off the charts here. He's always been a dirty player!! He's been public enemy number in Toronto for a few years already.
He’s trying to be a villain with his dirty play. It’s a joke.
Lmao so dramatic
I remember there were knicks fans praying that miami win just because they didn't want to face him. LMAOOO they are so terrified of him. Knicks have the better roster but the sixers have the better superstar
Lmao
THEY NEED TALKING POINTS 😮😂
Fake MVP to coming short out of the first round
If they both score 35 then what can we call them? Lol dumb topic.
He is playing through injury . Same as almost every year . But lets not get ridiculous . His injuries are not his fault . He is an extremely unlucky talented player who you've never seen at his best in the playoffs !"
I think the offense,should go through Maxey, Embid is a # 2😮
10 turnovers last game they should sit him or have him play 20-25 minutes
Keep this lady, never EVER bring back Monica mcnutt
Monica is awful
Joel battling. I give him props.
Flops plays victim....instigates cries to refs plays dirty half a working face foreign accent....definitely a villian you thought a protagonist? 😂😂
Sound like brunson also.
@@SPACEKNOCKERZ76 nope Brunsons face works and he doesn't have a foreign accent...can't be the villain 😂 nice try tho salty
Joel imBEAT…
ESPN, HAS THE SIXERS LOSING ALREADY 😮
Even in the "bad game" he had a triple double and a lot of great defensive plays down the stretch.
Joel Embiid is the most hated player in the NBA and it’s disgusting.
Deserved.
Embid dirtier than Draymond but he gets away with it.
Such a stupid brain dead take
joel is the best player in the league now.
and hasnt gotten out the second round yet :O
Philadelphia has three of the most players in sports - Bryce Harper, Joel Embiid and Jalen Hurts.
ONE OF THESE PLAYERS,NEEDS TO WIN A 🏆 CHAMPIONSHIP 😮...
Embid, needs to get that mamba mentality 😮
is a softy. dont have no mamba mind.
Any one who scores 50 points is NOT as hurt as people think. He's setting the narrative in case they lose. Excuses
You’re blind if you think that
Seems like you are setting a narrative lol he has no lift. Even when he scored 50 and literally said no excuses he just loves to play lol
He quite literally cannot close one of his eyes because of the extreme physical stress his body is under after his mcl surgery... aka Bells Palsy! I get this narrative with other players and situations but right now, Joel Embiid is undeniably injured. Use your eyes or even just your common sense and you'll be able to notice it lmao
@@klet hey pal, use your own common sense and look at his history. And I'll say it one more time, anyone who scores 50 points is not in as bad a shape as people like yoiu think, case closed
@@cheech4209 youre dumb if you don't see it
The man is playing hurt 😞 so for ppl who allow this narrative to carry you never been an athlete and has to push thru pain
As a sixer fan his injuries are a never ending uncertainty, not knowing if this gonna be the year we get to the Chip & then Embid gets hurt again . I support him as long as he’s a Sixer but ain’t gonna lie this being hurt stuff is gonna hurt Embid legacy either bad or good ! Only time a tell
Cry me a river. Always got an excuse. Never his fault. Always hurt.
I rather live long enough to become the Villain. The Joker is Wild. 😜
I BETTER NOT CATCH EMBIID IN DYCKMAN
waha😁
Tf is a dyckman
He won’t be where you stay don’t worry lol
@@SPACEKNOCKERZ76 It's a meme, you pleb.
Joel isnt a villian, New Yorkers are just surprisingly sensitive🤧
“He’s not a villain, he just like to injure opposing players for fun. There’s nothing wrong with that”
Dumb narrative
He has an opportunity to finish that serie as an hero, if the 76ers can pass the Knicks.
Best regards.
This was a bunch of dumb takes? Villain?? Embiid fault?? Man yall can be clueless sometimes
Joel Embiid said we were winning the series i still believe we will .....Go Sixers 🎈
So did Murray bail out Jokic when he hit two game winners? Embiid discourse is real old.
difference is embiid is consistently bad in important games, jokic is not. embiid has still not gotten out the second round, jokic won a chip as the clear best player of the team. u cant possibly still defend him at this point..
Embiid needs to team up with Lebron...that way, their fans can watch a soap opera and a little bit of basketball.
About blaming everyone else, I guess he learned from LeBron.
He dropped 50 a week ago....stfu
Knick media is wild. The heat did multiple dirty plays and it gets called culture. Brunson has played worse than embiid and flops just as much.
Why does Joel Embiid have 18 more free throw attempts than Brunson if he “flops just as much”?
He’s hurt what else you want
embid is a fiasco.Can compare with jokic.Jokic got robbed in last year mvp.And it gor nothing to do with basketball.
Jokic should be happy he won as a weak 6th seed in a weaker conference Talk about pity mvp.