How to fix a motorised Folding Wing Mirror (that stopped folding)
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- čas přidán 10. 02. 2023
- In this video, I show how you can replace just the electric motor inside a folding wing mirror (or door mirror, if you prefer) instead of replacing the whole mirror, casing and all, at significant cost.
The car I work on is a 2010 Citroen C5 (X7) with heated mirrors and auto-dimming, but this will almost certainly work on most if not all PSA group cars with motorised wing mirrors. The method and principles shown here will probably also work on cars from other brands.
This covers the entire disassembly process and how to get to the electric motor that failed. - Auta a dopravní prostředky
![YAN AYNA TAMİRİ [ citroen c5 ]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/mOmXeINCmMM/mqdefault.jpg)
Thank you for your time showing this.
Them motors seems to be used for lots of things in cars. I had an Audi and the remote locking never worked on two of the doors. I stripped the locking mechanism down and found this little motors inside. So I took the motor apart and cleaned the commutator with wire wool and refitted. That seem to work well and was free.
Quality mate.We did it in the English way and I will let you know when I get my Swift Dezire Side mirror motor fixed sooner the better.As the English Proverbs says stitch in time saves nine.Thanks for sharing.
great video dude - well done - such a breath of fresh air - somebody getting after it
Thank you very much for all your videos!You are the reason that last week I went to Germany and bought a C5 2.0 Hdi 181ps automatic !I drove 2500km back to Greece and I realized what is "a comfortable car".....It was a pleasant surprise for me....Thanks again!!!Keep up the good work!!!
Really?! Holy moley! Well thanks and I really hope you enjoy your lovely c5!
Καλοτάξιδο κι από μένα αδερφέ. Και μάλιστα εσύ έχεις τον νεότερο κινητήρα. Excellent. 👍👍👍👍👌👌👌
@@mr_nice. Ευχαριστώ πάρα πολύ!!!Thanks a lot!!!
Thanks for your awesome work, I did the same but was awkward to put them back together so I ended up buying one on eBay and kept the other one for parts 👍
You’re a legend ! You saved me so much money 🙏🏻
Thanks!!! It's really good to hear!
Thank you for posting this excellent video. I learned a lot from it.
Nice work with a lot of info. I am still trying to open my Grandland mirror motor
Wonderful Information sir . Thank you from India ❤
Just to let you know the central locking In the door latch is also the same motor as that 1 iv just orderd 2 to fix my rear drivers door lock great video I bought a new mirror for my car as it wouldn't move I still have it so I will fix that at the same time ty again 👍🏻😊
Quality mate. English fix things themselves and figure it out as we go. Thanks for sharing
I've got this issue on my 2005 honda CRV for both. Will give this a go.
howd it go?
Thank you for the video! worked like a charm! \m/
Top video , thankyou
great vid thanks
I love Nick drake!!❤
Thank you 👌💕
Thank you Sir 🙏🏼 i have the same problem on my right mirror and the Citroen is asking for 1,350€ for a new sidemirror and installation 😅 crazy
Feels good when it works, doesn't it?
Very cathartic!
Freakin amazing!
Welcome! I would like to ask if you do not know the part number of the translation engine on the left mirror? thanks in advance
Mine right side dosent fold in or out but I can bear the motor running should I replace anyway ?
update july 24 you can access that troublesome spring without taking to mirror off the door - you just need to make a 35mm tube with 2 prongs that match the slots in the washer and depress (with force) then rotate. It will all come apart and you can change to motor whilst its all on the vehicle - note I got the wrong motor ( it had the wrong brass worm drive) BUT I managed to take the original motor apart and clean it and remove all the carbon and reassemble - bingo!
One last note - when I took off the mirror, I managed to separate it from the actuator motor - meaning that when I pressed it back together - I broke one of the nylon actuators - be careful - that part can also be purchased for about $20 - good luck
@@tobykeen3700 interesting. Do you think it's easier that way? Thanks so much for the input!! 👍
@@comcarclub "C:\Users\tobyk\OneDrive\9 CARS\peugeot\mirror disassembled.jpg"
I'm tempted to believe that everything was simply a matter of dried out grease.
Had a similar case in a 2007 Ford Mondeo, in one of it's rear door locks. The motor inside wasn't spinning as freely, due to dried out lubrication in it's axle. It got stuck in the unlock position, and wasn't able to turn back when powered the other way.
It only needed a few drops of WD-40 to work properly again. Stupid things have sleeve bearings, and they dry up in time, causing this kind of problems.
Have you tried the old motor after removing it? Is it spinning? I would've tried it again, coupled to that gearing, (without the PCB), just to see if it spins. Usualy they don't burn up, so as to get stuck, and the fact that it did move just a bit, shows just dried up lube.
Good work overall though 👍👍👍👍
The old motor worked but only moved very slightly. The grease inside looked fine but who knows? I don't have a way to test the old motor without going through everything again!
@@comcarclub ...well...yes and no. I mean...sure, I don't want to see you going over the same thing all over again, that's not what I mean. I was just curious about the old motor. If you supply 12V with a couple of paperclips, in those slots, it will turn (if it's ok) or it will not turn if it's stuck. That's it. If you manage to do that, let me know.
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Great video - thanks. I have similar problem on Peugeot 508 GT (2016), driver's side mirror. I have seen some videos showing dismantling from the interior of the door .. but would you think that this method - from the outside - would work ? The two cars are pretty similar.
I would bet on it. 508s and c5s share some interchangeable parts, like rear wiper and door handles. I doubt they would develop a completely different solution for each model
Thanks for the video. To summarise, in order to unlock the black sleeve inside the big spring, it's a case of pushing in then turning 45 degrees? Like a baïonnette?
On my Ford, I cannot reach the screws shown at 00:5:33 so I cannot use a threaded rod but must try with a clamp or a vice....
My apologies, I'm not familiar with the functioning of a bayonette, but the way you described it seems accurate. Push in and twist. I hope it helps!
Thanks for the answer. A bayonet is like the old push and twist lightbulbs
@@brandedfireball7822 yes, that's it. More or less the same motion
great job. Well explained but rather complicated. And still i'm gonna try it anyway. Thanks.
by the way where did you order the motor?
Aliexpress
@@comcarclub 👍
Mine is like my motor is stuck, it’s making a constant ticking sound and when you press the button, it gets a signal but doesn’t move.
Hey mate first of all thanks for all the videos! They're appreciated!
Have you ever had any problems with the electronic boot not opening? Cheers
Funnily enough, I had some today. Some of the plastic trim on the left side of the bootlid came ever so slightly loose, but it would hit the inside of the boot opening when I tried to open the boot, and the system decided the hatch was staying shut. I had to force the boot open by hand. Some short sharp smacks to the trim and it works normally again.
Obrigado! That might actually be the problem with mine! Tomorrow I'll check it out and if I manage to open it, I'll buy you a pint 😊
Great vid. How did you test the old one to confirm it wasn't working?
Well, I simply observed its behaviour on the car, though that doesn't count as testing. The new motor was so cheap, it was worth the risk
Hi thanks for this video but have you any idea what voltage the motor is please
12V
@@comcarclub is that for sure.I followed your video and i have the motor out now and just wanted to check it before i buy new.Thanks again
Hi which model Ibiza do you have I have the 6j and was going to buy the motor assembly wonder if it's the same as a polo good vid thanks a lot
? Sorry, it's not an ibiza
Hey. Do you need to unplug the battery first? I want to do this on my Electric car but don't know if I can just unplug the mirror without turning anything off first! Thanks
I didn't unplug the battery at all, just had the car turned off 👍
@@comcarclub thanks for replying so quickly!!! I am all set now!
How about when side mirror unfolds and the motor is still rotating and continuously making noise? What could be the problem?
That's odd. Maybe a bad circuit board, since something needs to "tell" the mirror it should only do a quarter turn.
Hi, since you are quite familiar with X7's, I've got a question regarding the interior. How come SOME of the plastics inside feel like they're 'melting', as in, buttons for the windows feel mushy almost, same with some other things like around the center console. Mine's 2012 and 182k km, but seems it's been driven for 800k km because of it 😂
Hello. I'm not 100% sure, but I think it's a factory coating that makes everything feel more "premium". I've seen the same on BMWs and on the stereo buttons of my old Volvo. I think the coating degrades over time and "melts" as you describe, and worse, it attracts dirt and filth. I try to clean it off whenever I can but it's tough to do so. Below is good plastic so it isn't a problem to get rid of the coating, in my opinion.
@@comcarclub ....well I can verify Mr. Comfy's words, since I had the same problem with the middle console, and I ended up painting it, along with the silver stips on the door handles. You can see it in my video about the gear stick knob fix on the X7.
The buttons, are also coated with the same crappy material, and you can't realy do anything about them. The switch frame is different. You can remove it and clean it, and have it with the original plastic, but cleaning each button is a bit of a pain. I only managed to clean the forlding mirrors button, when I disassembled the switch, and I was too bored to do the rest of them. 😂😂😂👍👍👍
But yes, the coating on the buttons can be removed with simple rubbing alcohol and kitchen paper, but the coating on the middle console....I scraped it away with sand paper, and then primmed the plastic, and took it to a pro painter to apply the car's color and a clear coat, to have a decent result. AND it doesn't attract dirt any more.
@@comcarclub Thank you for your response! I just thought it was really bad plastic, kinda relieved to find it's some dumb coating. For me it's a useless thing, my previous car was 12 years old with 385000km (was a rental car lol) and none of the plastics were detoriated that bad at all, in fact it looked barely used. Was just a bit disappointed to find a large sedan having such issues. Oh well, thank you once again :)
excellent vid mate.....Where did you get the motor from....is there a name for it Cheers.
It's the number on the side of the motor in video - 1020792
Where did you purchase replacement motor please?
Aliexpress
And what if the power mirror works but instead of going to it’s default and stopping it goes all the way back?
Not sure what you mean. It opens but opens too far? That might be a problem with the instructions the motor receives, it's doing too many steps. This is just conjecture! I can't be sure without properly understanding the problem.
I want to simply disable mine and leave in extended position. Can I do this by removing a fuse?
As far as my mechanic said, no. I suppose you could unplug the motor
@@comcarclub Thanks
How did you verify that the motor was faulty in the first place?
Well, I believe I mentioned it in the video, but I will sum it up. I wasnt sure it was a busted motor. The slight movement of the mirror suggested it was the motor at fault, but I could only be sure replacing it. Because a replacement motor was so cheap I thought, why not?
Hello there! Awesome video, that save me a ton of time, work, and money. I’m currently working on my mirror (Peugeot 508) and it’s the same mechanism. The only problem I encountered is that when I dissasembled it, I didn’t keep track of which way the metal piece is fitted, the one with the grooves that fit in the mirror column, so when I tried to reassembly everything I didn’t know how to get it right. Do you by any chance know how it goes? I’m afraid that when I put it back in the car, the mirror would fold anywhere but the place it’s meant to be folding to. Thanks in advance!! Greetings fron Argentina
Hi there, thanks for reaching out. Can you point to what time code in the video you mean? I'm not sure which part it is. Thanks!
@@comcarclub the metal piece you’re holding in 16:06. Thanks!!!
@@lukpo2007 I see. Make sure it has the bearing, the piece with little balls in it, and the O-ring above it. And make sure it's facing downwards like in the video. Apart from that, it doesn't have a fixed position, as long as it's facing the right way, it should work
@@comcarclub thanks for your response, i’ll try to finish it today haha
@@lukpo2007 Good luck!
Wow well done, but now I see why they get over $1200 for the whole thing. Lol
It same in peugeot 208?
I don't know, but there's a good chance it is
Hi, where did you buy this electric motor from?
Aliexpress
Can you give some link I can't find it?
@@user-xv9hb6en4u sure you can. Look for motor 1020792
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TPE is Thermoplastic elastomer - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermoplastic_elastomer
Ah-a! I was right! Thank you
my left side mirror of my honda crv is not folding but the indicator is still there and the inside gklass mirror still working, i suspect the motor or sensor which prevent the mirror to fold.please assist
Change the motor like the video shows you
Personal question. What do you do for a living???
Greetings from 🇸🇰
Lots of things! 👍
@@comcarclub new it! You look like that kind of a guy.
@@majohladky3249 sorry, I was just joking with you. I might do a Q&A video one day, and answer everyone's questions 👍
@@comcarclub same 😏. And thats very much appreciated. I will keep an eye out for your channel. Your content is very helpful. Cheers
really nice but first of you need to makre sure it is the actually motor and not some of the gears these can fail aswell.
Nick drake 😂😮
lento, muy lento. Cambié de coche antes de acabar el video
That is a door mirror.
As opposed to...?
@@comcarclub A wing mirror. Doors and wings are seperate panels.
@@DepakoteMeisterNerd
@@comcarclub And I guess all the car manufactuers are alos nerds? The opposite of ignorant is not nerd.
@@DepakoteMeisterLighten up, man, it wasn't meant as insult. It was a friendly jab
Orjust buy another one from the scrappers lol
You'd still have to install it, wouldn't you? Even from a scrapyard, it's a lot more expensive