The NUNO Delay Trick (that will confuse your friends)
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- čas přidán 1. 08. 2024
- I freaked out the day I finally figured it out. Set the delay correctly and magic just happens. Have fun.
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Yeah...Nuno used this technique but could easily pick it just the same if he chose to. The guy IMO is the most underrated guitarist in the industry. Nuno pulled off riffs and solo's back then that the majority of guitarists couldn't do, with the exception of a few; EVH, Satriani, etc. Nuno made Extreme stand out because of his dual ability to play the grooviest rhythms around and immediately switch to single string melodies that were just seamless. Without him, Extreme would have never became as big as they were, again...IMO. And his acoustic guitar playing?....simply amazing!
The Edge made a career with this delay trick in every other U2 song.
With a profoundly more sophisticated tone
That's a generalization...his delay is often quite complex and hard to mimic....good ole' Edge!
Sorry kids! John Jorgensen did this years before the Edge!
Kraftwerk did it earlier on “Europe Endless”, probably others. I think Tangerine Dream did it. It’s an awesome gimmick, I’ve done it too.
@@TheStrataminor His settings differ from song to song but he just has a couple of different general timing settings (like 3/16, 5/16 etc.) that he used all his career. This page is a good listing of his settings per song: id3412.securedata.net/amnesta/edge_delay/
Sure, his tone is more than just his delay settings so even playing a strat with the correct delay doesn't sound 100% like him (the Vox amp, specific delays like the SDD3000 and TC1280 are major contributors too). But copying his delay is dead easy.
You can try to calculate suitable delay time. For example, if you play Flight Of Wounded Bumblebee in 200 bpm, and there's 2 notes per each click, 60 seconds / 200 beats = 300ms - interval between 1st and 3rd notes. So you need to find interval between 2nd and 3rd. Just multiply by 3/4. (300 / 4) * 3 = 225ms. Should be comfortable for this song.
Source: Nuno Bettencourt (Extreme) - Flight of the Wounded Bumblebee - Cover & tutoriel
If I've ever had a conversation with friends or students about pedals, I tell them that the first pedal they'll ever want to invest in (beside a tuner) is a DD3/DD7 delay pedal. Their application is so wide ranging, you can use it to improve groove and timing and learning how to apply a quiet delay in the background can boost the sound of your guitar for solos. Also, I love ambient/post-rock music, so I have like three of them running at any one time. That's when things get crazy. Advanced delay usage begins when you're trying to get the rhythm of one delay to "speak" to another and that is when it becomes an art and not a science.
Rob Scallon used this technique in his song Rain in a more melodic way. It sounds so complex but it's actually not that hard to play.
Until they played it without any delay pedal
Rain sounds really generic and boring
Time 2 by Ewan Dobson.
@@serph2951 i agree completely, was not impressed
@@BananaManPL he did that for a video. in the original it's just him with the delay
Albert Lee has been doing this for close to 50 years both on guest sessions and his own projects. It's a lot of fun and there are a wealth of examples out there.
if im not mistaken wes Montgomery did this right around 50 years ago using tape delay in the studio.
I’ve been doing this since the 80s when I got my first delay pedal! There is so much you can do with a good delay pedal.
For years I just thought Nunu was blistering his fret board - delay. Very cool! Thank you!!
Rays Metal Tracks yeah, flight of the wounded bumblebee caused a lot of strained fingers 😂
In fairness, I remember my old instructor playing it with no delay without breaking a sweat, but he is a guitarist even Brian May has gone on record as calling a genius... me, I never got close 😁
Buckethead uses the same effect in his song Big Sur Moon, doesn't he?
Yeah but I think in Big Sur Moon he has the delay set to repeat multiple times, in a fading manner which adds this dreamy vibe to it. The idea is the same though, play only few notes and have the delay make it sound like something really fast.
I think Buckethead stacks 3 delays on that track. That song is beautiful!
Paul Gilbert has a song similiar as well....
@@joepaul9855 echo song 👌🏾
Louis M. Another brick in the wall part 1.
this helps out that first Nuno delay video you put out. It will make it a bit easier to find the pocket. Thanks!
AAAAA Thank you man!!! I was always afraid of this part, becouse it really sounds like he picks every note.
This sound so cool! :D
Awesome!! thank you and happy new year!!!
Dotted eight.. I first heard on Pink Floyd's "One of These Days" on bass 1971.
With volume swells it is in Blackstar by Yngwie in 89
Streets have No Name by U2
Some newer delays even have a tap tempo setting for dotted eighth.
Yngwie did it in 84
Great teacher. Explain things fast and easy.
Nice Strat. I discovered it back in the late seventies with a Kent delay that used an 8 track tape. Cool lesson, it's like revealing a magicians trick.
That is a badass hack!!!!!Thank you!! Now I am going to have to add another delay pedal to my rig with that setting !!
Perfect lesson. Thank you!
Loved the black cover on that single pickup!
I learned how to do the same technique from paul gilbert. I also freaked when I figured it out. good explanation of the trick. keep up the good work bro!!
Nuno is a fookin' beast. So heavy, so funky, so groovy.
Great vid. Sweet Strat.
This is great for practicing your timing too!
Thank you, i heard this sound somewhere but never bothered to set up and try on my processor, this video ease up a things abit.
Definitely a technique used way back. Such an awesome way to utilize delay for sure.
Figured it out in the 90’s already and never told my friends haha. You spilled the beans! I was the only one who played Flight of the wounded bumblebee before He man woman hater i the setlist because I knew the delay trick. Its an ‘easy’ song to play once you get down with the delay :)
Love that this came up on my suggested videos a couple days after the What if Nuno's Delay Pedal Broke During Flight of the Wounded Bumblebee? video 🙂
Great lesson.
New favorite channel.
Man you have gotten way better at guitar
Thank you for showing this, Mike. Nuno does some mind-blowing stuff on Pornograffitti, and this lick was always intimidating. I had no idea it was just dotted delay, I thought Nuno was picking every single note. I'm gonna have fun trying this out.
this was great!!! Thank you!!
Nick Valensi does something similar on Vision of Division by The Strokes; glad to see in depth coverage of this technique!
When i was a kid and my first amplifier was a line 6 with the delay effect.. and i discovered the delay trick all on my own.(accidentally) Made me sound a lot better than i was back then
Sounds neat!
Way easier to set pedal to dotted eighths and tap in quarter notes and bam, you are there
if your delay pedal has those options, yeah
That's been around LONG before Nuno my friend!
Still the Master example after bout 10 years: Ewan Dobson - Time 2
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Awesome
Love it
Will use it
Awsome lesson... thanks.
Great vid!! 220ms delay, no repeat, mix even ;)
Nice. You use the same picks I do. Love em. been using them a decade.
Cool. This is the same trick Pat Thrall, used in Hughes and Thrall LP, back in 1982. I believe Nuno does it with a Boss DD3. Thanks for the posting.
Great job
Thanks for sharing
Albert Lee's Country Boy (killer guitar work by the way) had this done back in 78...
Pretty sick! Im gonna try this with slap bass and see what i get
That... is so cool!
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream by Dream Theater has a real cool tempo delay in the verse section. Super fun...I have the patch saved and play it once in awhile.
Every time you start the lick, I think I'm starting a Pokemon battle
awesome video
Good work
That’s why the greats are great!
Hey, nice tip! Thank you!
love this lesson! Do you have any other videos on pedals? (besides the phaser) one of my issues is Balancing my guitar, with Hot Rod amp with clean then distortion/fuzz pedals etc. What a mission. Sometimes I think it's all good then if I change guitar, practice or perform with the drums.....another story. And the amp is SO Loud too.
That's fuggin' cool. I always thought Nuno picked every note as well.
excellent vid
Thanks man!!!
You are awesome !!!!!! Thank you for sharing the love :0)
Ain't this dotted delay? Or?
That's all it is with just a single same volume repeat.
I haven’t heard Nuno much but I’ve been using this trick for years
Every guitar player thinking: just tell me how many milliseconds...
Around 200ms I guess
I discovered this technique on the solo of "Your time has come" by Audioslave
ok, turns out i was using delay like that all the time (but lowering the echo volume a bit). I always thought delays were ment to be used only like this and nothing else - to repeat after you and insert more notes to make melody thicker. What are the other applications then, lol
Don’t forget the edge , he built a career with this delay setting
Other's have mentioned Buckethead's Big Sur Moon, which yes, even though it has multiple repeats. Also Paul Gilbert's "Echo Song".
Been doing this for years, it's how I test delay pedals most of the time. Fun trick!
I feel like this could be a fun way to practice scales and serve as another training tool to build speed
You’re such a nice guy I can tell
Don't let me fool ya. haha
thankyou for Lesson. Can this be done with Boss DD-3 ? maybe show a pic of the settings? :)
Thank you , this sounds great and creepy !!!!
I first got my mind blown on a similar delay riff Michael Romeo wrote on "The Raging Seasons" off of Symphony X's self titled album.
I'm using an amp modeller with tap tempo function for delays. Am I setting it to 1/4 note repeat or a dotted 1/8th? I'm seeing a lot of comments below suggesting dotted 1/8ths but I'm hearing straight quarter note.
The song "Signos" by "Soda Stereo" used this neat trick back in 1986.
This is similar to how the intro of Moonchild by Iron Maiden is played. On the album it sounds like a keyboard, but it's a guitar synthesizer. In 2008/9 they played it live with a regular guitar tone. It took me a long time to figure out that they use a delay.
Another great example of this is Van Halens "Cathedrals" from a few years prior to this recording
Pat Thrall used this technique back in the early ‘70’s
Is that what's going on in heat in the street (studio version) anyone ??
Larry lalonde from primus also used this on the track jillys on smack
That song is a beast
If that confused my friends, I'd find new friends
All my friends are confused, that's why they're my friends. haha
Man! Just tried on my bass. Sounds crazy! Thanks so much!
Man this on bass would be so rad.
Palm mute and not that fast... Very nice effect!
It is.
Try an auto wah and slap and mute.
David Gilmour did this on "Echoes" wonderfully, guitar bridge before the last sung part. You would think he's doing a super complex arpeggio and he's playing a ridiculously simple figure that sounds like a dream with delay.
That’s cool!
OMG this is awesome. Nuno's "Flight of the Wounded Bumble Bee" before he goes into "He-Man Woman Hater" is INSANE. This vid is brilliant. Wow.
Use a stereo delay and pan it far left and right.....it'll drive you bonkers. I did something similar to this but with more of a U2 Edge rythym plugged into two Silverface Super Reverbs placed at opposite ends of the room. It was nutty.
Aha, now I can shred with the best of them!
Cool T-shirt 👍🏻
This is also the same technique Rob Scallon used in his song rain, in his anchor album
Do you have a Katana? What is the best setting in the Kat to get this effect. It's been suggested a 220ms delay but I coulndt find the right delay with a REPEAT Paramater in it.
Thanks for the helpful tip. Flight of the wounded bumblebee was not written by Nuno Bettencourt, though, but by Nikolai Rimsky-Korsakov 90 years earlier
Korsakov's piece was called 'Flight of the bumble bee'. Nuno paid tribute to it by calling his piece 'Flight of the wounded bumble bee'. Not the same thing.
They are definitely not the same song. Nuno's song is certainly inspired by Rimsky-Korsakov's. But it most certainly isn't the same. Listen to them side by side or back to back. That's also why Nuno called his "The Flight of the WOUNDED Bumblebee." Rimsky-Korsakov's is called "Flight of the Bumblebee."
So no. Nuno's song was not written 90 years ago. Give credit where credit is due. Nuno absolutely deserve the writing credit for his song.
plot twist: nuno's delay has been broken for 3 years and he didn't noticed
Nice video
Also check out Albert Lee’s work , esp Country Boy or T-Bird to Vegas ; a wealth of examples as well by the Edge, eg Pride by U2
Actually I even found a video with Mr Telecaster himself, who explains just the same
(his picking is just madness!)
czcams.com/video/HNf963htMug/video.html
How the heck did Nuno accomplish that sound for the outro solo on "True Love in the Galaxy"?
I read somewhere years ago but can't find it anymore... something about he using a reverb (or delay, can't remember) but having extreme settings that would not really be used in a live context... I think it's kinda like trying to make a Delay pedal sound like a Reverb pedal, something like that
Let's not forget the late, great Danny Gatton and his Magic Dingis box!
Coooooolll thanks man
Buckethead uses this effect pretty awesome in Big Sur Moon
Paul Gilbert has a similar signature delay patch for that one TC pedal, he calls it "Inna gada da vida"
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It's called a dotted 8th note delay, you can set it easily by tapping a 3 over 4 rhythm.
Even with the delay “truck”, it’s still a very difficult piece to play. The intervals later on in the song are very difficult to play. It’s no walk in the park.
Also, alternate picking makes it a bit easier, instead of just trying to down pick every note.
Nuno is a beast, and a legend for a reason.
The Edge was the biggest influence for this dotted 8th delay.
Thanks
Apologies for the lame question, but do you pick at the same time as the second delay repeat?
Is this what slash does for welcome to the jungle?