I’ll never understand the Flutie/Johnson scenario. The Bills trade and overpay for a backup QB. They bring in Flutie as well who has more experience, and clearly shows he’s the better player. Yet they decide, allegedly it was Ralph Wilson, to play Johnson in the playoffs when it was Flutie who got them there in the first place. Just sheer stupidity.
@@ozamatazbuckshank7467 The following season too! They give it to Johnson and what happened? Flutie yet again had the better starting record. As the saying goes it's good to be the king. You can use people as scapegoats. Many of us Raiders fans got to experience that with Al Davis always looking to hire a puppet HC. One who would just be a yes man, and do everything his way and agree with his every decision.
To be honest heading into 1998, I would’ve just kept Todd Collins and brought in Doug Flutie for competition. Yeah they quickly deemed Collins a failure as “The heir to Jim Kelly” but he was much better in the role of a backup, and choosing to cut him and give Rob Johnson that kind of money was just absurd.
The week before, Flutie was rested and Johnson given the start because the Week 17 result was a dead rubber that wouldn't affect their playoff chances. Johnson had a decent game and that was probably enough for Ralph Wilson to choose Johnson. Mainly because they'd given up a 1st and 4th rounder and signed a major contract to bring in Johnson to make him the face of the franchise. They staked their future to Rob Johnson, and they wanted the chance to prove it. By comparison - Flutie was smaller, weaker-armed, slower (by that point of his career), and he was being paid backup money. And at this point, Flutie was 37 years old, and his big career accomplishment was that he used to be a star in the CFL. But it's that classic example of an underachiever who never lives up to his talents versus the overachiever who finds ways to go beyond his limitations. In case you're interested, Johnson's stat line in the divisional game was 10-of-22 for 131 yards, 0 TDs, 0 interceptions, 6 sacks, 1 fumble lost. Somehow, the Bills almost won that game - denied by the Music City Miracle - but I don't think anyone would say Johnson put them in a position to win.
It wasn’t all that great for Steve. Or the fans. Not till he won. They were replacing the goat, with an inconsistent qb. The revenge game, 9ers fans booed Steve and cheered joe as a chief, my dad almost stopped being a 9ers fan and was a chiefs fan for at least one season, and rooted for the chiefs to beat the 9ers. A ton of fans hated young at first
@@oddballskull1941 People were really rough on Young. I remember in 91’, some people thinking he should be 3rd on the depth chart at QB. Despite good numbers, the 49ers were 5-5 when he started, and 5-1 with Bono. That 91’ team was dreadful at closing out games. Then he won MVP in 92’, but they lost the NFC title game to Dallas. In the offseason, the 49ers explored trading him to Seattle so they could draft Rick Mirer, before fortunately making the right decision to stick with Young.
It's interesting how Brady's achievements with the Pats circled back around to the Rams. They lose to the Rams in Week 10, they're a .500 team, season (and Brady's career) can go any which way at that point. They never lose again and it culminates with a victory over the Rams. Bledsoe is traded and it's Brady's team for nearly two decades to come. Wins his sixth and final Pats ring...against the Rams.
Had the Pats not held on to Brady he would have without a doubt landed a starting job with another team and led them to some Super Bowls. Others may not agree, but look at the man's God damn work ethic. He is the best bar none. (PS excuse me if I don't mention older players I was only born in '90)
1:47 Drew Bledsoe-Tom Brady. 5:56 Terry Bradshaw-Joe Gillam. 9:07 Troy Aikman-Steve Walsh. 13:03 Jay Schröeder-Doug Williams. 16:08 Rob Johnson-Doug Flutie. 20:48 Jeff Hostetler-Phil Simms. 23:44 Drew Brees-Philip Rivers. 27:22 Norm Van Brocklin-Bob Waterfield. 33:02 Roger Staubach-Craig Morton. 38:08 Joe Montana vs. Steve Young.
Tell you what Josh McCown lighting it up for the Bears that year is an absolute painful memory for Bucs fans... When they gave Josh McCown that money to inherit the starting QB job of a Bucs team that went 4-12 the year before, that was a disaster everybody saw coming.
I honestly think 2020 is bigger since they made the playoffs with Mitch at the helm. There's no telling what would've happened if Foles was starting QB for the remainder of the season.
you don’t just randomly become the greatest quarterback of all time. brady clearly had greatness in him and it would have come out eventually even if it didn’t at that exact moment
@@familyguyfreemoviedownload8314 I think without that injury, if Bledsoe goes say 8-8, he goes into the next season starting, then say Bledsoe goes 4-6 first 10 games, Tom might get a chance then, but eyes could be on the next qb class
Although Staubach won the starting job in 1971, Morton started all of 1972 because Staubach was injured, leading the Cowboys to a 10-4 record. Then Morton shat the bed in the playoffs against the 49ers and Roger came off the bench to lead a miraculous comeback, and the usurpation was complete.
As a postscript, Staubach completely outclassed Morton in Super Bowl XII five years later: Morton was pulled during the third quarter, having put up the worst ever Super Bowl performance.
@@MRB16th the real knife twist with this one is that Morton actually had a really good 1977 season, hell he even won Comeback Player of the Year that year and beat the Steelers and Raiders in the playoffs. Then he got to the Super Bowl and *fart noise*
@@HipsterShiningArmor It is even more sad for it to end like this, now that you mention it. As a postscript, one newspaper on the Monday after the game quoted: "Craig Morton always wanted to win a Super Bowl for the Dallas Cowboys. Yesterday, he did."
@@matthewdaley746 wasnt a bad desicion to take tom over drew. Also, we didnt choose cam over brady. Brady and the team decided to go seperate ways, Cam was our best option.
Drew Bledsoe made me a Patriots fan as a little kid but now as a 27yr old it's crazy how huge the gap is between Brady and Bledsoe's career and mind you Drew is the 2nd best Qb Belichick has ever coached
@samuelurbanski5002 I never really got to Kosar play because by the time I was a kid watching the NFL he was a backup Qb but just judging his stats to his peers from his era there's definitely a argument.
I think it's a definite argument, but definitely don't get it twisted because bledsoe was a revelation for the pats. Nobody really before him was better besides grogan
It should be noted that Craig Morton didn't go directly from the Cowboys to Denver. Morton was traded to the Giants and played several years there on a team with less talent than the Cowboys. Then the Giants gave up on Morton and traded him to Denver in 1977 where he rode a great defense to their first tastes of postseason glory.
It's important for people to understand that Phillip Rivers holding out was something that happened consistently with the San Diego Chargers in those days with their new signees. Management fought for every dollar against players, especially prior to the rookie pay scale changes, and fought over language as only the Spanos seem to relish doing. Rivers was no different, it just was unfortunate for him that Brees was a very capable player still growing and the situation kept him on the bench. Best thing that happened to Brees and the New Orleans Saints was him getting hurt as awful as it sounds in San Diego. I don't know if they necessarily made the wrong move, they invested a high pick in Rivers and he was a capable QB for them for many years.
Would’ve worked out for the chargers if the invested in special teams once in rivers career. How do you possibly have a top 2 offense and defense and miss the playoffs? Nate Kaeding that’s how. He is the sole reason they lost 3 playoff games, if not for him Rivers would be a champion
@@cody8385 Yeah and getting that win I believe was the difference in Seattle going to the postseason at 7-9 and beating the Saints. While Chargers in AFC sat at home. The special teams werent the only one, that team fought under pressure, but a lot of that pressure was their own doing. Leon tied the NFL record for kickoff returns in a game that day.
@@cody8385 Oh and to add insult to injury regarding that game, the kicker on Seattles side was setting consistency records for the franchise. How frustrating that had to be looking back regarding your Kaeding comment.
Joe Gilliam had a tragic ending to his life at age 49. Interesting that he and Terry Bradshaw were both statistically struggling a lot on that 1974 Super Bowl team. Bradshaw had a higher interception rate.
Gilliam was a bad fit for the Pittsburgh system. Joe threw the ball way too much. Terry wasn’t the same kind of passer at the time but he called a better game.
People say Kordell Stewart was ahead of his time. I disagree. I don’t think Kordell was good enough as a passer to be more than he was back then. I do wonder what Joe Gilliam could have accomplished in a different system or a different time. Bradshaw definitely became better without a doubt, but Gilliam was just the wrong guy at the wrong time
Someone once said that every time they saw Jay Schroeder's face, he looked like a Bond villain. And that's probably the best comparison I've ever heard. He acted like one, too.
Because only one can start, and most of the time it's your highest paid player. Montana and Young didn't last long either. And a GMs job is to find someone better than you regardless who you are. If he isn't then he's not doing a very good job for the team who's paying him.
Of all the many controversies, having one like that is maybe one out of every 50, so 2% of the time it's win-win. So the numbers say, if you think you have two quarterbacks, you have none.
It is funny how similar the situation in Philly was. Carson got injured, Nick comes in and wins the whole thing. Instead of shipping Carson off the Eagles awarded him a big contract and let Nick Foles go.
Bledsoe was Wally Pipp to Brady's Lou Gehrig. And personally for me as a Cardinals fan was Jim Hart and Neil Lomax. Hart refused to mentor his replacement and it was evident that Hart's skills were eroding which isn't a stretch because he played forever. It got so bad that the Cardinals parted ways with Hart who ended his career in Washington.
So sad. I started watching football because of RG3. My only experience with football was the indoctrination of 85 Chicago Bears. My school, everyone, everything around me was Payton. I hated sports, and only watched finals when Jordan played. I can't believe what happened with RG3. I wish it didn't. Before him I only knew Vick because of case. McNabb because of soup. I lived near Stingley, so I thought all players were evil and mean like Tatum. I didn't know dad from Webster was a dirty player. I watched and learn to love for RG3. It's like it was a joke or dream.
Yeah, that was pretty rough for awhile. RGIII just kept getting worse and worse, but he had that damn amazing rookie year. A lot of people thought he could still recapture that. Other people were fed up with his play and his attitude and thought Cousins looked good in limited action. And you're right, Snyder was the driving force behind RGIII and it ended up with Shanahan getting the boot.
In the last few months, have a few articles about Montana v Young. Montana was legend, even with injuries, how can you let him go? If I were GM, would have traded Young for draft picks and veteran OLineman and kept the ball rolling for Joe. I'm just loyal like that, and Joe having 2 more years at KC and proving he was an elite QB until his last pass is proof that it could have worked. One more SB for Niners? When a legend like Joe Fucking Montana is sent down the road, it makes you realize this is a brutal business and the Niners led the way in making it that way.
the Raven could gave won Superbowl XXXV (35) with a mannequin at QB. Offense was simply not needed. Trent Dllfer was the SB winning QB with a rating of 80.0. Kerry Collins put up some amazing numbers....rating of 7.1 (yes you read that right) for 112 yards and FOUR interceptions
What exactly have the chargers had? I mean they've won nothing relevant, I hope one day Charger fans will taste championship glory, I wish every fan base who hasn't won a SUPER BOWL would.
Hostettler really composed himself incredibly well in that 1990 playoffs. He'd been waiting for his moment forever, but once he got it, he was IN the moment.
@@gluserty What really got me was he was upset at Terry Glenn being drafted as a pitch and catch teammate for Bledsoe in that WR DRAFT HAPPY CLASS ('96).
@@dwightlove3704From what I watched of his teams, Parcells usually deployed his personnel depending on their strengths, although I think he enjoyed those clock-munching "run with some power" 1989-'90 Giants teams, since he knew they wouldn't get beat physically.
@@dumisatonyjohnson8145 Brady ended up with a losing playoff record head-to-head to Peyton and it goes without saying that the Giants have had his number on the main stage. If you compare any legend to their worst games/runs they obviously look like dogshit dude lmao
Jefferson St. Joe. He had a helluva arm. Some people neglect to mention that what really derailed his career was getting beat up playing, then getting hooked on painkillers. Baruch dayan emet, Joe Gilliam
Deep down Bledsoe had so much energy and happiness in that tunnel exchange with Brady,for Bledsoe believed the clock was about to strike Midnight for Brady. Rams were two touchdown favorites, and Bledsoe had just won the Pats the AFC title game and was on his way to another contract... Only Bledsoe, much like the rest of us, were completely wrong. Fast forward 20 years later the clock still ticks for Brady. For Bledsoe, he sleeps easy at night. He has his Super Bowl ring thanks to the G.O.A.T. and no man shall every surpass TB12 in the best of all time discussions.
That late 80s early 90s NFC East with the Giants & Eagles Defenses. My god. musta gave QBs nightmares. I know it did for houston after that bodybag game.
Well lets see the Giants ended the career of Joe Theismann and Danny White never threw a football the same way again after he was lost for the season in 86. So yeah it wasn't pretty.
The chargers could’ve got Larry Fitzgerald and had brees throwing to Fitzgerald. That could’ve been one of the best QB WR connections of all time. But they took Phillip rivers and that worked out for everybody it seemed.
The Manning-Rivers trade is probably the biggest trade in NFL history. Chargers get Rivers and run a juggernaut offense for years. New York gets Eli and dethrones the greatest NFL dynasty ina way only possible with Eli - twice. Pittsburgh ends up with a guy with another two-time Super Bowl winner QB that likely wouldn't have excelled in San Diego and would've been pushed out of New York with the off-the-field controversies. New Orleans ends up with a top-ten all-time QB that brings the team's first Super Bowl win.
Yeah, the Chargers get blueballed from the super bowl having that amazing mixture of Rivers, LT, Gates Vincent Jackson and (wildly underrated) Malcom Floyd, but they set so many wild numbers
@@QwertyCaesar to tell the truth the only team that screwed themselves in that draft was the Raiders. They could have drafted Rivers who would have been the heir apparent to Gannon but instead they draft the human turnstile in Robert Gallery. He couldn't block a tackling dummy.
Landry just lived for QB controversy. Before it was Morton Staubach it was Morton and Meredith and after Staubach was gone it was Danny White and Gary Hogeboom. He made the right decision in the first two cases but he really hosed himself and the team by ever naming Hogeboom to be a starting QB.
There was no controversy there. Wentz was the starter and the Eagles were 10-2 when he got hurt. And remember the Eagles barely got out of the Falcons playoff game with their lives. Poor playcalling cost the Falcons in that game. But Foles was a backup who did his job nicely.
Wish they'd play the clip from when bledsoe was asked if brady would be ok going back to the backup qb when drew came back and he said *there's no guarantee you'll have your job from week to week, that promise has never been given to anyone*. He sure changed his tune when it happened to him instead.
Joe Gilliam was only named the starter to begin the 1974 season due to the player's strike that lasted from July 1 to August 10. Terry Bradshaw remained on strike throughout while Gilliam had crossed the picket line.
Jay Schroeder, yeah, he wasn't worth the trouble, and Doug Williams was the superior player (arm strength along with the necessary intangibles; one other note, Williams is the only Tampa Bay QB to lead them to the playoffs three times). "Schroeder the Raider", boy I recall his era there (I always benched him for Steve Beuerlein in "Tecmo Super Bowl"). Who was Schroeder's Raiders replacement? Well, Jeff Hostetler, of course!
@Harry Engel After watching that "Road to the Super Bowl" 1986 and in the segment in which he was profiled having him say his first love was baseball, it makes me think that being an NFL QB was just a job to him. The guy got on my nerves because I viewed too many games when he played for the loaded Raiders in which his play sabotaged the team's efforts to be more successful. He certainly wasn't worth trading Jim Lachey (!) for:-).
@Harry Engel I know it sounds like I'm giving Jay Schroeder the Raider static (I suppose I am:-), but he just wasn't the triggerman I'd count on. I'd rather ride in with the Hoss, Doug Williams, or Steve Beuerlein without flinching. I do agree with you that he wasn't awful, and he had two seasons that held up (though the respective teams were looking for his heir apparent the season afterwards).
@Harry Engel Jeff Hostetler, who replaced Schroeder the Raider in 1993 and the Raiders immediately won 10 games. I said "ride in with the Hoss" because Chris Berman & other sportscasters would always make some kind of "Hoss" reference when it came to him:-). Rarely did I see Schroeder play well and be let down by his supporting cast, but I can cite one instance: 1992, the second game of the season, at Cincinnatti. Schroeder went 25-40, 380 yards, 2 TDS, 1 INT; he was brilliant. However, Tim Brown was stripped of the ball going into the endzone and in overtime Sam Graddy inadvertently put his helmet right into teammate Dan Land on Land's kickoff return, leading to the Bengals kicking the winning field goal.
@Harry Engel Yeah, and other sportscasters went on to call him that, even broadcasters during games; Berman was still the one to hum out the "Bonanza" theme though:-). Hostetler was really good for the Raiders, but when he got injured, the team suffered greatly.
@Harry Engel I was thinking of a quarterback that I'd consider average (and sometimes slightly better) that I could live with: Neil O'Donnell. Yeah, I know he had a funky Super Bowl XXX (one interception was REALLY his fault, and the other was a hail mary at the end, but he was throwing wild all day there), but normally he took care of the ball and I felt minded the store pretty well.
@@erikthorsen240 Yeah but unfortunately guys like Young and Favre had better seasons plus it was mostly emmitt that had the all pros for his running next to Barry Sanders
34:11 never seen Landry be that expressive lol. Reminds me of when Bill Belichek did that "move the chains" celebration when Brady ran it against the Chiefs lol
Sims going down and Hoss steping in to win was the greatest story of a backup doing the impossible and being the hero in NFL History. WAS!!! ..... For my money , it's now Nick Foles story. Nicky Six stepping in and making his way thru. Dismantling the Vikings in the NFC Championship and then Outplaying the one and only Tom Brady to beat the Pats.
I don't understand how people can say Foles outplayed Brady in that Super Bowl? What more could Brady have done? The guy threw for 505 yards and 3 TD's? Should he have thrown for 600 yards?
If this were made today, Nick Foles vs Carson Wentz would be on this list, or at least an honorable mention. Wentz had an incredible pre-season, but once he was injured, Foles finished the season as a Super Bowl MVP and outperformed Tom Brady. Argument about who was actually better aside, I think we all had doubts about Wentz's durability, and Foles wouldn't fare so great after leaving the Eagles, but you simply can't deny that there was a real conversation to be had about the decisions that were being made behind the scenes.
Wentz vs Hurts too. Hurts' rookie season was marred with so many questions about his job security and cost Dougie P his job. It was such an awkward time in Philly too. Hurts was good but we had no clue his ceiling was that high until he was firmly in the job for a year.
I would agree, but the Eagles made sure to kill any talks of a QB controversy, at least publically. They assured that Wentz was their guy after Foles won the super bowl
Before the age of 30 Steve Young started more than five games only once, and 3 or less 5 times. He managed a Hall of Fame career based entirely on what he did after the age of 30 that is a stunning accomplishment You often see players like Gale Sayers get in based on what they did before the age of 30 But I can't think of another career like Steve Young who earned their Hall of Fame status at all based on what they did after the age of 30
Washington always has a QB controversy... We got Schroeder v Williams, Kilmer v Jurgensen, and Cousins v RG3. You’d think for a historic and relatively successful franchise we would have QB stability but I see a QB battle brewing yet again with Fitzpatrick v Heinicke v Allen. Our best QB was Sammy Baugh and he played in the 30s and 40s
Historic maybe but successful? What period would that be outside of the Joe Gibbs 80s teams and a couple of decent years with the Over the Hill Gang? I swear you have one good decade out of 9 and you think you are a relatively successful franchise??? Because surely you aren't trying to lay your hat on some crap that happened back in the 30s and 40s before any of us was born.
Not enough people talking about how impressive the 40’s Rams situation in these comments. Both QB’s put up points. Both still respected each other, and both of them won. Never seen or heard of anything like that.
Remember in 93 when the cowboys and the niners met in the NFC championship game, and the Chiefs and the Bills met in the AFC championship game? The whole world wanted young vs Montana in the super bowl. Instead they got another Bills beat down at the hands of the Cowboys. As a Bills fan I wish it would have been Steve vs Joe.
Johnson wanted Walsh because he was more cerebral and could he thought improvise to the ebb and flow of the game where Aikman was too rigid; he needed a play called, needed a primary target, and threw to the spot rather than the player. Walsh’s weaknesses quickly caught up to him and Aikman rolled to history
Why isn't Favre and Rodgers in this list? There was a big controversy when Favre unretired to return for the first time as Rodgers was getting prepared to take over.
What if Bledsoe led the Pats to all of those SBs instead? That team was loaded on D from ‘01-‘05 and Brady wasn’t putting up MVP numbers at the time I could totally see it happening
@@chadjustice8560 #1 defense in points allowed in 03, #3 defense in points allowed in 04 and #6 defense in points allowed in 01, but they were able to hold one of the greatest offenses ever to a low score vs rams. Elite defenses.
But Bledsoe’s 5 picks in SB31 against Green Bay cost his team Bledsoe choked against Pittsburgh in the 1997 playoffs at three Rivers Stadium 🏟 He’s definitely not clutch like his successor Brady was.
I always wonder: what if Tom Brady hadn't made the Super Bowl that year? If they'd lost the Tuck Rule game? I think there was a serious possibility that Drew Bledsoe would've remained the starter the next season, and Tom Brady was the one that got traded. And then who the hell knows what the landscape of the NFL would've looked then. All came down to that Tuck Rule.
While i agree it could have changed things, i still think Bledsoe is the one who's getting traded if NE doenst win the Super Bowl. You have to remember that Brady went 11-3 in 2001 and eventually the Patriots would have had to prepare a young QB to replace Bledsoe. Even without a Super Bowl, Brady would have been that guy with the season he had.
And we may have never known Tom Brady was the GOAT. Makes u think, how many All time greats did we miss out on cuz of that? If the Miami Dolphins weren't inept, Josh Rosen might be an MVP caliber player, but that's just the way things go
Nah, Belichick said Brady was on the verge of taking the starting job anyway, Bledsoes days in NE were numbered. I loved Bledsoe in NE, but Brady was and is Tom Brady.
I’m a Silver-and-Black or Green-and-silver guy, mostly, but those Patriots jerseys/uniforms from the ‘90s Bledsoe years in NE were really cool, much better than the Patriots/Bills unis that went to those friggin’ Cigna-conservative, Navy blue, boring-ass unis from the 2000s...
Yea that ended up being probably one of the trades that worked best for both teams. Rivers is arguably the best regular season QB ever and the Saints as a team may have been relegated if it wasn't for that trade.
@@jeremyfajkus2799 You only brought up the pro bowls for a counter argument. You didn’t prove any other of my major points wrong. Philip isn’t a HOF’er and it shouldn’t be an argument. Roethlisberger shouldn’t be either tbh.
How the heck does the Tomzack/Harbaugh situation not make this list? I get that neither was a great QB, but it was a really strange situation for the NFL.
@@roz99999 Hard to believe that Erik Kramer still owns the Bears records for single season passing yards and TD's, which happened before offense took over the NFL. Sad.
@@roz99999 I liked Kramer, as he's the best QB I've seen play for the Bears. As you said, Chicago never developing a QB since then is why I said "Sad". I'm still giving Fields a chance, seeing as how our receivers are mostly garbage.
@@Rockhound6165 you might not think so if Jerry Jones could swallow his damn ego and Jimmy Johnson stays in Dallas. With Jimmy coaching I think Dallas has better than average odds of winning the NFC Championship in 94 and then Steve Young would be looked upon as the second coming of Danny White.
Brees / Rivers was the worst controversy. I always thought Brees was better. History agreed. Joke's on the Chargers. They are not even in the same city anymore.
When a QB is young, it's still a good idea to let your QB "earn" the job instead of just giving him the job. You don't want any player to take the job for granted. At every level of playing, players had to earn there spot. How do you think high school players become "Letterman"? Coaches just don't give those away. I was a smart, try hard type of player but I could never put on the weight necessary to play football. Looking back I should have played golf or baseball. Football is for either big or fast and I didn't have either. I was only kept because I had heart and would never quit. Unfortunately that's not enough for college or the NFL. I ended up in the US Military, which I don't regret one bit.
Poor freaking Drew Bledsoe... He wasn't overshadowed once but TWICE! And it's so wrong because he was such a good QB. I would even go as far as to say that Tom Brady and Tony Romo would not have been as good as they were/are if it weren't for him.
I don't consider the Romo one overshadowing him. Bledsoe was Toast by that point and the only one that didn't know it was Bledsoe himself. The Guy retired because he couldn't handle being a back up QB anywhere.
That was never really an in season thing. Plus in 2008, most fans knew Favre wasn’t going to just show up in August and GB was going to change plans that went back eight months. The media really tried to make something out of something that wasn’t there.
It was more of a QB controversy that never actually happened, and the whole drama happened for a few months. Granted, it was definitely a controversy, but it was a very short one when it was happening, during an offseason no less.
I love the injury ticker at the bottom. Aaron Hernandez is questionable indeed.
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They might want to change that to "out."
I saw that too and said the exact same think lmbo
24:52- "when phillip pulls out"
Phillip Rivers has 9 kids.
Phillip never pulls out!
Not only the funniest comment here but also obviously completely true.
What makes it funnier is I think he has more since this comment was made 😂
The “Id rather have a small Flutie than a big Johnson” sign killed me, I’m dead now 💀
I’ll never understand the Flutie/Johnson scenario. The Bills trade and overpay for a backup QB. They bring in Flutie as well who has more experience, and clearly shows he’s the better player. Yet they decide, allegedly it was Ralph Wilson, to play Johnson in the playoffs when it was Flutie who got them there in the first place. Just sheer stupidity.
And wade Phillips become the fall guy. It was never his decision to bench flutie
@@ozamatazbuckshank7467 The following season too! They give it to Johnson and what happened? Flutie yet again had the better starting record. As the saying goes it's good to be the king. You can use people as scapegoats. Many of us Raiders fans got to experience that with Al Davis always looking to hire a puppet HC. One who would just be a yes man, and do everything his way and agree with his every decision.
Johnson took a year to actually throw the ball and would often get sacked while fluite was mobile, yeah what a stupid decision
To be honest heading into 1998, I would’ve just kept Todd Collins and brought in Doug Flutie for competition.
Yeah they quickly deemed Collins a failure as “The heir to Jim Kelly” but he was much better in the role of a backup, and choosing to cut him and give Rob Johnson that kind of money was just absurd.
The week before, Flutie was rested and Johnson given the start because the Week 17 result was a dead rubber that wouldn't affect their playoff chances. Johnson had a decent game and that was probably enough for Ralph Wilson to choose Johnson. Mainly because they'd given up a 1st and 4th rounder and signed a major contract to bring in Johnson to make him the face of the franchise. They staked their future to Rob Johnson, and they wanted the chance to prove it.
By comparison - Flutie was smaller, weaker-armed, slower (by that point of his career), and he was being paid backup money. And at this point, Flutie was 37 years old, and his big career accomplishment was that he used to be a star in the CFL.
But it's that classic example of an underachiever who never lives up to his talents versus the overachiever who finds ways to go beyond his limitations.
In case you're interested, Johnson's stat line in the divisional game was 10-of-22 for 131 yards, 0 TDs, 0 interceptions, 6 sacks, 1 fumble lost. Somehow, the Bills almost won that game - denied by the Music City Miracle - but I don't think anyone would say Johnson put them in a position to win.
Joe Montana vs Steve Young that wasn't all bad they're both Hall of Famers
If Walsh was smarter about it, he could've had the Ur-Taysom Hill and Drew Brees
It wasn’t all that great for Steve. Or the fans. Not till he won. They were replacing the goat, with an inconsistent qb. The revenge game, 9ers fans booed Steve and cheered joe as a chief, my dad almost stopped being a 9ers fan and was a chiefs fan for at least one season, and rooted for the chiefs to beat the 9ers. A ton of fans hated young at first
@@yriafehtivan Bill Walsh was one of the smartest Head Coaches in history.
@@yriafehtivan It wouldn’t of worked back then with you know the less safety rules for players
@@oddballskull1941 People were really rough on Young. I remember in 91’, some people thinking he should be 3rd on the depth chart at QB. Despite good numbers, the 49ers were 5-5 when he started, and 5-1 with Bono. That 91’ team was dreadful at closing out games.
Then he won MVP in 92’, but they lost the NFC title game to Dallas. In the offseason, the 49ers explored trading him to Seattle so they could draft Rick Mirer, before fortunately making the right decision to stick with Young.
It's interesting how Brady's achievements with the Pats circled back around to the Rams. They lose to the Rams in Week 10, they're a .500 team, season (and Brady's career) can go any which way at that point. They never lose again and it culminates with a victory over the Rams. Bledsoe is traded and it's Brady's team for nearly two decades to come. Wins his sixth and final Pats ring...against the Rams.
Wll, Bucs lose to KC to go 7-5, and don´t lose again.
Had the Pats not held on to Brady he would have without a doubt landed a starting job with another team and led them to some Super Bowls. Others may not agree, but look at the man's God damn work ethic. He is the best bar none. (PS excuse me if I don't mention older players I was only born in '90)
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I concur with your sentiments
Since Tom Brady is my number one all time favorite NFL player ever
He beat them in 2 different cities St. Louis and Los Angeles we will never see that again
The Patriots went against the Saint Louis Rams in SB36
They went up against the Los Angeles Rams in SB53
Different city same old sorry ass Rams 😆
1:47 Drew Bledsoe-Tom Brady.
5:56 Terry Bradshaw-Joe Gillam.
9:07 Troy Aikman-Steve Walsh.
13:03 Jay Schröeder-Doug Williams.
16:08 Rob Johnson-Doug Flutie.
20:48 Jeff Hostetler-Phil Simms.
23:44 Drew Brees-Philip Rivers.
27:22 Norm Van Brocklin-Bob Waterfield.
33:02 Roger Staubach-Craig Morton.
38:08 Joe Montana vs. Steve Young.
Nick Foles vs Carson Wentz was a serious topic of debate in Philly for a few years
Its such a weird one the answer kinda became just get a new qb
Yeah that’s a good one
As a bears fan, I'm looking at Josh McCown and Jay Cutler in 2013. Heck if you want to be recent Mitch Trubisky and Nick Foles in 2020.
Tell you what Josh McCown lighting it up for the Bears that year is an absolute painful memory for Bucs fans...
When they gave Josh McCown that money to inherit the starting QB job of a Bucs team that went 4-12 the year before, that was a disaster everybody saw coming.
I honestly think 2020 is bigger since they made the playoffs with Mitch at the helm. There's no telling what would've happened if Foles was starting QB for the remainder of the season.
They’re putting QBs on here who have actually done something and won
I'm a bears fan also but we need at least need one good qb to have a controversy
Neither of those bears QBs are worthy starters. They both sucked so bad neither stood out.
They didnt mention that Aikman got hurt and Buerlein almost took his job after Walsh was traded. Aikman almost asked for a trade himself.
If it wasn’t for Mo Lewis laying out Drew Bledsoe the world would have never seen Tom Brady and who knows who would’ve won all those Super Bowls.
We would have seen brady playing he was already pushing Bledsoe
Damnit Mo
Without Brady, there's a chance we would have seen Bledsoe lose another Super Bowl.
you don’t just randomly become the greatest quarterback of all time. brady clearly had greatness in him and it would have come out eventually even if it didn’t at that exact moment
@@familyguyfreemoviedownload8314 I think without that injury, if Bledsoe goes say 8-8, he goes into the next season starting, then say Bledsoe goes 4-6 first 10 games, Tom might get a chance then, but eyes could be on the next qb class
Although Staubach won the starting job in 1971, Morton started all of 1972 because Staubach was injured, leading the Cowboys to a 10-4 record. Then Morton shat the bed in the playoffs against the 49ers and Roger came off the bench to lead a miraculous comeback, and the usurpation was complete.
As a postscript, Staubach completely outclassed Morton in Super Bowl XII five years later: Morton was pulled during the third quarter, having put up the worst ever Super Bowl performance.
But then they come to RFK Stadium and get an absolute mauling in the NFC Championship Game. 😁
@@MRB16th the real knife twist with this one is that Morton actually had a really good 1977 season, hell he even won Comeback Player of the Year that year and beat the Steelers and Raiders in the playoffs. Then he got to the Super Bowl and *fart noise*
@@HipsterShiningArmor It is even more sad for it to end like this, now that you mention it.
As a postscript, one newspaper on the Monday after the game quoted: "Craig Morton always wanted to win a Super Bowl for the Dallas Cowboys. Yesterday, he did."
@@MRB16th well that’s just…..mean
2003-2007 nfl network was so good
Bradys chin has changed so much...
Still not sure if NE made the right decision.
As a Pats fan., shoulda went with Bledsoe. 😭😭
@@matthewdaley746 wasnt a bad desicion to take tom over drew. Also, we didnt choose cam over brady. Brady and the team decided to go seperate ways, Cam was our best option.
@@matthewdaley746 smh 🤦🏼🤦🏼belicheck threw that game and yuh Unfortunate Figgy Newton was our option
@@matthewdaley746 true that. How you feel about Jalen? Think he will be smthe starter? Less they draft a qb at their spot he will have to be
@@matthewdaley746 true true
Every time I see this video, I think that’s Shaun White in the thumbnail.
Drew Bledsoe made me a Patriots fan as a little kid but now as a 27yr old it's crazy how huge the gap is between Brady and Bledsoe's career and mind you Drew is the 2nd best Qb Belichick has ever coached
There's no shame in being 2nd to Tom Brady [The Great One]
Tony Romo was better than Drew Bledsoe
I'd argue that Bernie kosar deserves the second spot tbh
@samuelurbanski5002 I never really got to Kosar play because by the time I was a kid watching the NFL he was a backup Qb but just judging his stats to his peers from his era there's definitely a argument.
I think it's a definite argument, but definitely don't get it twisted because bledsoe was a revelation for the pats. Nobody really before him was better besides grogan
It should be noted that Craig Morton didn't go directly from the Cowboys to Denver. Morton was traded to the Giants and played several years there on a team with less talent than the Cowboys. Then the Giants gave up on Morton and traded him to Denver in 1977 where he rode a great defense to their first tastes of postseason glory.
It's important for people to understand that Phillip Rivers holding out was something that happened consistently with the San Diego Chargers in those days with their new signees. Management fought for every dollar against players, especially prior to the rookie pay scale changes, and fought over language as only the Spanos seem to relish doing. Rivers was no different, it just was unfortunate for him that Brees was a very capable player still growing and the situation kept him on the bench. Best thing that happened to Brees and the New Orleans Saints was him getting hurt as awful as it sounds in San Diego. I don't know if they necessarily made the wrong move, they invested a high pick in Rivers and he was a capable QB for them for many years.
Would’ve worked out for the chargers if the invested in special teams once in rivers career. How do you possibly have a top 2 offense and defense and miss the playoffs? Nate Kaeding that’s how. He is the sole reason they lost 3 playoff games, if not for him Rivers would be a champion
@@cody8385 Leon Washington should live in Chargers infamy for Seattles victory over them during that historically bad special teams season.
@@Gungho73 those TDs where like 2/12 Return Tds they gave up. I didn’t even recognize the name
@@cody8385 Yeah and getting that win I believe was the difference in Seattle going to the postseason at 7-9 and beating the Saints. While Chargers in AFC sat at home. The special teams werent the only one, that team fought under pressure, but a lot of that pressure was their own doing. Leon tied the NFL record for kickoff returns in a game that day.
@@cody8385 Oh and to add insult to injury regarding that game, the kicker on Seattles side was setting consistency records for the franchise. How frustrating that had to be looking back regarding your Kaeding comment.
Other QB controversies to consider:
- Favre & Rodgers
- Leinart & Warner
- RG3 & Cousins
- Wentz & Foles
- Smith & Kaepernick
- Mariota & Tannehill
- Purdy, Lance, & Garoppolo
Joe Gilliam had a tragic ending to his life at age 49. Interesting that he and Terry Bradshaw were both statistically struggling a lot on that 1974 Super Bowl team. Bradshaw had a higher interception rate.
Brad only got better and better tho
Gilliam was a bad fit for the Pittsburgh system. Joe threw the ball way too much. Terry wasn’t the same kind of passer at the time but he called a better game.
People say Kordell Stewart was ahead of his time. I disagree. I don’t think Kordell was good enough as a passer to be more than he was back then. I do wonder what Joe Gilliam could have accomplished in a different system or a different time. Bradshaw definitely became better without a doubt, but Gilliam was just the wrong guy at the wrong time
Yes but Rivers never won a SB for Chargers and Drew has for the Saints, Both good QB.
Someone once said that every time they saw Jay Schroeder's face, he looked like a Bond villain. And that's probably the best comparison I've ever heard. He acted like one, too.
Either that or he looked like he wanted the game to be over because he had to help Hans Gruber assault Nakatomi Plaza.
As somebody who always despised the Washington Redskins I thought he was quite appropriate for them.
23:43 “if you have 2 quarterbacks you have no quarterback that’s it!”
Well who’s going to tell him about Montana and young.
It’s why they got rid of Montana
@@donaldtrumplost1477 after 4 years and 2 Super Bowls.
Or Wentz and Foles in 2017 specifically and only.
Because only one can start, and most of the time it's your highest paid player. Montana and Young didn't last long either. And a GMs job is to find someone better than you regardless who you are. If he isn't then he's not doing a very good job for the team who's paying him.
Of all the many controversies, having one like that is maybe one out of every 50, so 2% of the time it's win-win. So the numbers say, if you think you have two quarterbacks, you have none.
That Bledsoe line was awesome
"I look forward to the chance to compete for MY job"
LMAO
Not for long pal.
Bledsoe came across as pampered & entitled in that clip!! People forgot that he went to Kraft to see if he can get Belichick back his starting job,
He was the highest paid Quarterback in the league even though he only won 5 games in 2000
It is funny how similar the situation in Philly was. Carson got injured, Nick comes in and wins the whole thing. Instead of shipping Carson off the Eagles awarded him a big contract and let Nick Foles go.
I believe Nick Foles would have took them back to another Superbowl
Bob Waterfield was going home to Jane Russell so I doubt he really gave a damn about Norm
Bledsoe was Wally Pipp to Brady's Lou Gehrig. And personally for me as a Cardinals fan was Jim Hart and Neil Lomax. Hart refused to mentor his replacement and it was evident that Hart's skills were eroding which isn't a stretch because he played forever. It got so bad that the Cardinals parted ways with Hart who ended his career in Washington.
Da hell
I think RG3 and Kirk Cousins belong to the best of the rest, for the reason that Snyder drafted RG3 but Shanahan wanted to get Kirk Cousins
So sad. I started watching football because of RG3. My only experience with football was the indoctrination of 85 Chicago Bears. My school, everyone, everything around me was Payton. I hated sports, and only watched finals when Jordan played. I can't believe what happened with RG3. I wish it didn't. Before him I only knew Vick because of case. McNabb because of soup. I lived near Stingley, so I thought all players were evil and mean like Tatum. I didn't know dad from Webster was a dirty player. I watched and learn to love for RG3. It's like it was a joke or dream.
This is an old ass show dey just now got it on here
I'd say [in a way] they both got what they wanted.
Yeah, that was pretty rough for awhile. RGIII just kept getting worse and worse, but he had that damn amazing rookie year. A lot of people thought he could still recapture that. Other people were fed up with his play and his attitude and thought Cousins looked good in limited action.
And you're right, Snyder was the driving force behind RGIII and it ended up with Shanahan getting the boot.
This was made back when RG3 was still at Copperas Cove High School (who got cheated by Alamo Heights in 08)
In the last few months, have a few articles about Montana v Young. Montana was legend, even with injuries, how can you let him go?
If I were GM, would have traded Young for draft picks and veteran OLineman and kept the ball rolling for Joe.
I'm just loyal like that, and Joe having 2 more years at KC and proving he was an elite QB until his last pass is proof that it could have worked. One more SB for Niners?
When a legend like Joe Fucking Montana is sent down the road, it makes you realize this is a brutal business and the Niners led the way in making it that way.
the Raven could gave won Superbowl XXXV (35) with a mannequin at QB. Offense was simply not needed. Trent Dllfer was the SB winning QB with a rating of 80.0. Kerry Collins put up some amazing numbers....rating of 7.1 (yes you read that right) for 112 yards and FOUR interceptions
And lets not forget his putrid season in 96 with 12 TDs to 19 Picks. Any decent to just below average QB could of won that Super Bowl.
As a Chargers fan I remember Brees and Flutie and later Brees and Rivers. We haven't had any controversy since 06.
What exactly have the chargers had? I mean they've won nothing relevant, I hope one day Charger fans will taste championship glory, I wish every fan base who hasn't won a SUPER BOWL would.
@@BIG-D-STAR much appreciated man, I feel the same way about other teams that haven't won the big one either.
I was a Bledsoe guy back in 01. I have never been happier to be wrong.
Just don't forget, bledsoe did get you guys to a super bowl against the Green Bay Packers earlier. They may have lost, but he got you there.
I think even Bledsoe can't be too bothered about it nowadays. Who can expect to beat the greatest ever for the job?
Hostettler really composed himself incredibly well in that 1990 playoffs.
He'd been waiting for his moment forever, but once he got it, he was IN the moment.
Parcells secretly hated Hostetler and got rid of him the first chance he got.
@@dwightlove3704 What I think is funny now is that the next QB Bill Parcells had after returning to coaching was Drew Bledsoe.
@@gluserty Yes he went from THREE YDS AND A CLOUD OF DUST TO MOUSE DAVIS FATHER OF THE RUN-N-SHOOT
@@gluserty What really got me was he was upset at Terry Glenn being drafted as a pitch and catch teammate for Bledsoe in that WR DRAFT HAPPY CLASS ('96).
@@dwightlove3704From what I watched of his teams, Parcells usually deployed his personnel depending on their strengths, although I think he enjoyed those clock-munching "run with some power" 1989-'90 Giants teams, since he knew they wouldn't get beat physically.
23:07
Phil Simms was an A++ teammate
/s
Always love this show. It needs a return but this time have people that know the game of the sport, even YTers like Urinatingtree and FivePointsVids
Those youtubers would just do ad reads for Raycon
Steve Young always had crazy good QBR and overall stats. Montana was Brady before Brady. He won and he was the guy you wanted in the big ones.
Young is 1-2 vs Aikman’s Cowboys in the playoffs and 1-3 Vs Favre’s Packers in the playoffs in the 1990s
Overrated System player
@@dumisatonyjohnson8145 pfft, someone who probably never watched Young play…..
@@dumisatonyjohnson8145 Brady ended up with a losing playoff record head-to-head to Peyton and it goes without saying that the Giants have had his number on the main stage. If you compare any legend to their worst games/runs they obviously look like dogshit dude lmao
@@dumisatonyjohnson8145 and 6-1 against every other team
@@IWantToBelieve1 Young was overrated.
Jefferson St. Joe. He had a helluva arm. Some people neglect to mention that what really derailed his career was getting beat up playing, then getting hooked on painkillers. Baruch dayan emet, Joe Gilliam
Deep down Bledsoe had so much energy and happiness in that tunnel exchange with Brady,for Bledsoe believed the clock was about to strike Midnight for Brady. Rams were two touchdown favorites, and Bledsoe had just won the Pats the AFC title game and was on his way to another contract... Only Bledsoe, much like the rest of us, were completely wrong. Fast forward 20 years later the clock still ticks for Brady. For Bledsoe, he sleeps easy at night. He has his Super Bowl ring thanks to the G.O.A.T. and no man shall every surpass TB12 in the best of all time discussions.
That late 80s early 90s NFC East with the Giants & Eagles Defenses.
My god. musta gave QBs nightmares. I know it did for houston after that bodybag game.
I thought the Body Bag game was against Washington on Monday Night?
@@Rockhound6165 you're absolutely right. I got my beatings confused. That defense put a hurting on alot of teams.
Well lets see the Giants ended the career of Joe Theismann and Danny White never threw a football the same way again after he was lost for the season in 86. So yeah it wasn't pretty.
The chargers could’ve got Larry Fitzgerald and had brees throwing to Fitzgerald. That could’ve been one of the best QB WR connections of all time. But they took Phillip rivers and that worked out for everybody it seemed.
The Manning-Rivers trade is probably the biggest trade in NFL history. Chargers get Rivers and run a juggernaut offense for years. New York gets Eli and dethrones the greatest NFL dynasty ina way only possible with Eli - twice. Pittsburgh ends up with a guy with another two-time Super Bowl winner QB that likely wouldn't have excelled in San Diego and would've been pushed out of New York with the off-the-field controversies. New Orleans ends up with a top-ten all-time QB that brings the team's first Super Bowl win.
Yeah, the Chargers get blueballed from the super bowl having that amazing mixture of Rivers, LT, Gates Vincent Jackson and (wildly underrated) Malcom Floyd, but they set so many wild numbers
@@daveintheAM I bet Marlon McCree is still a wanted man in San Diego.
@@QwertyCaesar to tell the truth the only team that screwed themselves in that draft was the Raiders. They could have drafted Rivers who would have been the heir apparent to Gannon but instead they draft the human turnstile in Robert Gallery. He couldn't block a tackling dummy.
Landry just lived for QB controversy. Before it was Morton Staubach it was Morton and Meredith and after Staubach was gone it was Danny White and Gary Hogeboom. He made the right decision in the first two cases but he really hosed himself and the team by ever naming Hogeboom to be a starting QB.
I think that was when we should’ve realized something was wrong with Landry
Landry was a quarterback killer.
Wentz & foles would be up there
There was no controversy there. Wentz was the starter and the Eagles were 10-2 when he got hurt. And remember the Eagles barely got out of the Falcons playoff game with their lives. Poor playcalling cost the Falcons in that game. But Foles was a backup who did his job nicely.
Wish they'd play the clip from when bledsoe was asked if brady would be ok going back to the backup qb when drew came back and he said *there's no guarantee you'll have your job from week to week, that promise has never been given to anyone*. He sure changed his tune when it happened to him instead.
How else is he supposed to feel?
The Giants were lucky that each Phil Simms and Jeff Hostetler each won a Super Bowl.
Joe Gilliam was only named the starter to begin the 1974 season due to the player's strike that lasted from July 1 to August 10. Terry Bradshaw remained on strike throughout while Gilliam had crossed the picket line.
Jay Schroeder, yeah, he wasn't worth the trouble, and Doug Williams was the superior player (arm strength along with the necessary intangibles; one other note, Williams is the only Tampa Bay QB to lead them to the playoffs three times). "Schroeder the Raider", boy I recall his era there (I always benched him for Steve Beuerlein in "Tecmo Super Bowl"). Who was Schroeder's Raiders replacement? Well, Jeff Hostetler, of course!
@Harry Engel After watching that "Road to the Super Bowl" 1986 and in the segment in which he was profiled having him say his first love was baseball, it makes me think that being an NFL QB was just a job to him. The guy got on my nerves because I viewed too many games when he played for the loaded Raiders in which his play sabotaged the team's efforts to be more successful. He certainly wasn't worth trading Jim Lachey (!) for:-).
@Harry Engel I know it sounds like I'm giving Jay Schroeder the Raider static (I suppose I am:-), but he just wasn't the triggerman I'd count on. I'd rather ride in with the Hoss, Doug Williams, or Steve Beuerlein without flinching. I do agree with you that he wasn't awful, and he had two seasons that held up (though the respective teams were looking for his heir apparent the season afterwards).
@Harry Engel Jeff Hostetler, who replaced Schroeder the Raider in 1993 and the Raiders immediately won 10 games. I said "ride in with the Hoss" because Chris Berman & other sportscasters would always make some kind of "Hoss" reference when it came to him:-).
Rarely did I see Schroeder play well and be let down by his supporting cast, but I can cite one instance: 1992, the second game of the season, at Cincinnatti. Schroeder went 25-40, 380 yards, 2 TDS, 1 INT; he was brilliant. However, Tim Brown was stripped of the ball going into the endzone and in overtime Sam Graddy inadvertently put his helmet right into teammate Dan Land on Land's kickoff return, leading to the Bengals kicking the winning field goal.
@Harry Engel Yeah, and other sportscasters went on to call him that, even broadcasters during games; Berman was still the one to hum out the "Bonanza" theme though:-). Hostetler was really good for the Raiders, but when he got injured, the team suffered greatly.
@Harry Engel I was thinking of a quarterback that I'd consider average (and sometimes slightly better) that I could live with: Neil O'Donnell. Yeah, I know he had a funky Super Bowl XXX (one interception was REALLY his fault, and the other was a hail mary at the end, but he was throwing wild all day there), but normally he took care of the ball and I felt minded the store pretty well.
Holy smokes! Rich Eisen had hair! 😂
I was too young to remember the battle between Morton vs Staubach.
I was a kid, but I hated Morten. Roger had "it".
@Harry Engel You would think Aikmen would have made it at least once, don't you think?
@@erikthorsen240 Yeah but unfortunately guys like Young and Favre had better seasons plus it was mostly emmitt that had the all pros for his running next to Barry Sanders
34:11 never seen Landry be that expressive lol. Reminds me of when Bill Belichek did that "move the chains" celebration when Brady ran it against the Chiefs lol
Sims going down and Hoss steping in to win was the greatest story of a backup doing the impossible and being the hero in NFL History.
WAS!!! .....
For my money , it's now
Nick Foles story.
Nicky Six stepping in and making his way thru.
Dismantling the Vikings in the NFC Championship and then
Outplaying the one and only
Tom Brady to beat the Pats.
I don't understand how people can say Foles outplayed Brady in that Super Bowl? What more could Brady have done? The guy threw for 505 yards and 3 TD's? Should he have thrown for 600 yards?
If this were made today, Nick Foles vs Carson Wentz would be on this list, or at least an honorable mention. Wentz had an incredible pre-season, but once he was injured, Foles finished the season as a Super Bowl MVP and outperformed Tom Brady. Argument about who was actually better aside, I think we all had doubts about Wentz's durability, and Foles wouldn't fare so great after leaving the Eagles, but you simply can't deny that there was a real conversation to be had about the decisions that were being made behind the scenes.
Wentz vs Hurts too. Hurts' rookie season was marred with so many questions about his job security and cost Dougie P his job. It was such an awkward time in Philly too. Hurts was good but we had no clue his ceiling was that high until he was firmly in the job for a year.
I would agree, but the Eagles made sure to kill any talks of a QB controversy, at least publically. They assured that Wentz was their guy after Foles won the super bowl
How can you be a head coach and not know a winner. Floutie is magic. Always has been.
Oh god this was recorded when Detroit had fresh Matthew Staford and a 4-0 record geez
Another great video. You should try to find top 10 team turnarounds. I think Sean A had it on his channel before it was taken down.
Before the age of 30 Steve Young started more than five games only once, and 3 or less 5 times.
He managed a Hall of Fame career based entirely on what he did after the age of 30 that is a stunning accomplishment
You often see players like Gale Sayers get in based on what they did before the age of 30
But I can't think of another career like Steve Young who earned their Hall of Fame status at all based on what they did after the age of 30
Washington always has a QB controversy... We got Schroeder v Williams, Kilmer v Jurgensen, and Cousins v RG3. You’d think for a historic and relatively successful franchise we would have QB stability but I see a QB battle brewing yet again with Fitzpatrick v Heinicke v Allen. Our best QB was Sammy Baugh and he played in the 30s and 40s
Fitzpatrick vs Heiniky... Coming this fall
@@derricktalbert6554 ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Yall the no names suck
Historic maybe but successful? What period would that be outside of the Joe Gibbs 80s teams and a couple of decent years with the Over the Hill Gang? I swear you have one good decade out of 9 and you think you are a relatively successful franchise??? Because surely you aren't trying to lay your hat on some crap that happened back in the 30s and 40s before any of us was born.
@@ashleighelizabeth5916
Carson Wentz vs. Nick Foles would definitely be on this list now.
That camera glitch at 18:21 will haunt my dreams forever
"if you have 2 quarterbacks you have no quarterback" Yeah, Brees & Rivers would like a word with you.
Not enough people talking about how impressive the 40’s Rams situation in these comments. Both QB’s put up points. Both still respected each other, and both of them won. Never seen or heard of anything like that.
That Lady must of felt extremely stupid for saying Drew Bledsoe is better 🤣🤣
I wonder if you would say that if it was a guy
Remember in 93 when the cowboys and the niners met in the NFC championship game, and the Chiefs and the Bills met in the AFC championship game? The whole world wanted young vs Montana in the super bowl. Instead they got another Bills beat down at the hands of the Cowboys. As a Bills fan I wish it would have been Steve vs Joe.
Johnson wanted Walsh because he was more cerebral and could he thought improvise to the ebb and flow of the game where Aikman was too rigid; he needed a play called, needed a primary target, and threw to the spot rather than the player. Walsh’s weaknesses quickly caught up to him and Aikman rolled to history
Why isn't Favre and Rodgers in this list? There was a big controversy when Favre unretired to return for the first time as Rodgers was getting prepared to take over.
That episode I believe was filmed before the Favre, Rogers controversy occurred!
BRETT FAVRE IS THE MAN!! Who brought the Packers back to glory, since Bart St
I mean Farve and rodgers was kinda good i guess, seeing how rodgers has turned out now.
Does anybody else get chills whenever they hear Jon Gruden yell "ONE SNAP, COME ON!..." around 0:38?...
What if Bledsoe led the Pats to all of those SBs instead? That team was loaded on D from ‘01-‘05 and Brady wasn’t putting up MVP numbers at the time I could totally see it happening
It wasn't his job to put up mvp numbers and you better look at the actual numbers on the defenses in those years and I'm a pats fan saying this.
@@chadjustice8560 #1 defense in points allowed in 03, #3 defense in points allowed in 04 and #6 defense in points allowed in 01, but they were able to hold one of the greatest offenses ever to a low score vs rams.
Elite defenses.
But Bledsoe’s 5 picks in SB31 against Green Bay cost his team
Bledsoe choked against Pittsburgh in the 1997 playoffs at three Rivers Stadium 🏟
He’s definitely not clutch like his successor Brady was.
I always wonder: what if Tom Brady hadn't made the Super Bowl that year? If they'd lost the Tuck Rule game? I think there was a serious possibility that Drew Bledsoe would've remained the starter the next season, and Tom Brady was the one that got traded. And then who the hell knows what the landscape of the NFL would've looked then.
All came down to that Tuck Rule.
While i agree it could have changed things, i still think Bledsoe is the one who's getting traded if NE doenst win the Super Bowl. You have to remember that Brady went 11-3 in 2001 and eventually the Patriots would have had to prepare a young QB to replace Bledsoe. Even without a Super Bowl, Brady would have been that guy with the season he had.
And we may have never known Tom Brady was the GOAT. Makes u think, how many All time greats did we miss out on cuz of that? If the Miami Dolphins weren't inept, Josh Rosen might be an MVP caliber player, but that's just the way things go
Nah, Belichick said Brady was on the verge of taking the starting job anyway, Bledsoes days in NE were numbered. I loved Bledsoe in NE, but Brady was and is Tom Brady.
I’m a Silver-and-Black or Green-and-silver guy, mostly, but those Patriots jerseys/uniforms from the ‘90s Bledsoe years in NE were really cool, much better than the Patriots/Bills unis that went to those friggin’ Cigna-conservative, Navy blue, boring-ass unis from the 2000s...
Tom brady in the first 6 seconds looks like a skinwalker trying to impersonate Tom brady
I remember when Montana got knocked outta that playoff game. That hit is still hard to watch.
5:42 You could have had Garo Yepremian playing quarterback for that team and they still would have won the Super Bowl with that defense.
Exactly!
Unless he fumbled with those butterfinger hands and had them returned for touchdowns, nothing the defense can do about that :P
Broooo I’ve been waiting for this one for a while thank you 🙏🏾
Haven’t watched it yet, but I’m just gonna guess it’s Montana and Young at no. 1
"id rather have a small flute than a big Johnson" 🤣legendary
Well both Brees and Rivers are going to hall of fame so worked out for both guys
I don't see Rivers as a lock for Canton. Maybe 3rd time around.
Yea that ended up being probably one of the trades that worked best for both teams. Rivers is arguably the best regular season QB ever and the Saints as a team may have been relegated if it wasn't for that trade.
Brees is, Rivers will be lucky to get in.
@@zew1414 Rivers: 0 OPOYs and 0 MVPs and 0 All pros and only 8 pro bowls in 17 years equals greatest regular season quarterback. Are you drinking?
@@jeremyfajkus2799 You only brought up the pro bowls for a counter argument. You didn’t prove any other of my major points wrong. Philip isn’t a HOF’er and it shouldn’t be an argument. Roethlisberger shouldn’t be either tbh.
How the heck does the Tomzack/Harbaugh situation not make this list? I get that neither was a great QB, but it was a really strange situation for the NFL.
@@roz99999 Hard to believe that Erik Kramer still owns the Bears records for single season passing yards and TD's, which happened before offense took over the NFL. Sad.
@@roz99999 I liked Kramer, as he's the best QB I've seen play for the Bears. As you said, Chicago never developing a QB since then is why I said "Sad". I'm still giving Fields a chance, seeing as how our receivers are mostly garbage.
Isaac can you upload top ten pass rushers and QB/WR combos please
Real creepy pixilation during the number 6 segment
Young had to deal with a tough act to follow from 1991-1993 in replacing Montana at quarterback
I believe he filled in nicely.
@@Rockhound6165 you might not think so if Jerry Jones could swallow his damn ego and Jimmy Johnson stays in Dallas. With Jimmy coaching I think Dallas has better than average odds of winning the NFC Championship in 94 and then Steve Young would be looked upon as the second coming of Danny White.
They were ruthless against Bledsoe 😭he was a good qb just had really bad timing Romo pretty much did the same thing
I always liked Bledsoe.
Tom Brady and drew Bledsoe is a legendary one
Mike Ditka said it, best around 0:06-0:13.
It doesn't get any easier than that...
Drew blessed ok next question: did you average 5 turn overs a game going back to pee wee or just high school?
Joe woulda won dat NFC Championship I forgot all about Joe being healthy I was only 10 goin on 11 but Montana woulda won dat game
Bet 12 was next
“Is the fire still hot?”
“Yep still hot!”
LMAOOOO
Brees / Rivers was the worst controversy. I always thought Brees was better. History agreed. Joke's on the Chargers. They are not even in the same city anymore.
When a QB is young, it's still a good idea to let your QB "earn" the job instead of just giving him the job. You don't want any player to take the job for granted. At every level of playing, players had to earn there spot. How do you think high school players become "Letterman"? Coaches just don't give those away. I was a smart, try hard type of player but I could never put on the weight necessary to play football. Looking back I should have played golf or baseball. Football is for either big or fast and I didn't have either. I was only kept because I had heart and would never quit. Unfortunately that's not enough for college or the NFL. I ended up in the US Military, which I don't regret one bit.
26:09 They lucked out? lol
They went with Rivers and never won a damn thing. Brees 1000x better.
Hey, do you have that one video where they talk about Matthew Stafford and Brady Quinn’s duel?
We gotta add Zach Wilson vs Mike White now
The smart one selects the hot hand. Every fucking time.
My pops says that to this day. Always ride the hot hand
Poor freaking Drew Bledsoe...
He wasn't overshadowed once but TWICE!
And it's so wrong because he was such a good QB. I would even go as far as to say that Tom Brady and Tony Romo would not have been as good as they were/are if it weren't for him.
I don't consider the Romo one overshadowing him. Bledsoe was Toast by that point and the only one that didn't know it was Bledsoe himself. The Guy retired because he couldn't handle being a back up QB anywhere.
18:21 The lag in graphics is hilarious
Excellent video. Thanks for uploading. 😀
There will be more eps ahead as well.
Where's Favre/Rodgers? I know this was made after 2008.
That was never really an in season thing. Plus in 2008, most fans knew Favre wasn’t going to just show up in August and GB was going to change plans that went back eight months. The media really tried to make something out of something that wasn’t there.
You could add Wentz Foles in Philly of they updated the list
Idk if that was ever really that much of a controversy, even Foles vs Hurts got more action
This makes me think of the Tom Brady rule that came later. He may not have the long career he's had without that rule. 3:41
Why isn’t Rodgers and Favre not on here?
Hmm...that’s a good addition. This list needs to be updated on TV.
Truth
It was more of a QB controversy that never actually happened, and the whole drama happened for a few months. Granted, it was definitely a controversy, but it was a very short one when it was happening, during an offseason no less.