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Putting the duelist who has a discipline problem on viper who needs to value her life in a elimination match is the biggest troll comp change this year.
Viper isn’t as necessary to value life on this map
@@thomasbrittain9029 perhaps, but have u seen the way life plays XD. bro makes jiing look disciplined. you cant have ur viper pulling that sorta risks
@@thomasbrittain9029If u have kj, yes, but chamber? nah ur the only sentinel in this comp as viper
@@thomasbrittain9029on attack? Yes yes she is
@@SlykRL Yes and No. I don't why people assume just cause Chamber has offensive utility that you have to play him as a Duelist (mind you, he doesn't have the setup for that). Chamber is a Sentinel for a reason but also again to the comments point, you provide much more value the longer you stay alive as Viper (for Controllers in general outside Clove to a degree)
FPX running a no duelist comp on LOTUS is the joke of the year
Berlin is obsessed with the controller role. half the time I watch fpx he's running triple controllers, let alone double. life on raze was fking amazing on lotus. every attack round he'd satchel A main with the outlaw and get a kill. It was the reason they won half their rounds and they casually put him on fking VIPER.
@@arvy7765 wdym berlin? fpx has coaches, analysts and a bunch of other guys. dont put the blame exclusively on the igl
@@arvy7765 It's NathanD. That guy just wants to be different
@@alzacki9349I'm not blaming. I'm saying he likes controllers which is fair enough they got top 2 CN, but putting life on viper at this point is pointless. I'm just saying he's obsessed with it. Sometimes meta comps are just better. But ur right, it's probably the coaching staff's bad decision making, not his. But I assume he agreed to it or else why else wd they be playing it?
the choke of the year
FPX playing no duelist on lotus is the equivalent of SEN playing deadlock on every map... an FF
Or Billy Billy playing no sentinel on Lotus
I said that, also Zekken is ez picks if no one will support entry him
TMV clickbaiting us = 1 stream of oiling up
Hell yeah
Get this the most liked comment
Cant wait for freaky mans valorant to launch 🥰
@@abrawolf same
Zekkens reaction sums everything up very well right after lotus ended
His face was like "did we just play ranked on lan ?"
Watch him not mention sen even after they beat GenG
I guess they thougth "everyone saw hes grabbing the spike so no need to com" LOL
yeah, huge issue, were they banking on autumn seeing spike from minimap? coz he is definitely more concerned with keeping eye on his scope this round since he was anchoring A.
ahhh yes a ranked team mindset in pro play..
I think the rest of the team were comming in mandarin during that whole situation
@@KecklzVal 💀😂😂
@@vicefamgaming I mean, he shoulda been looking at minimap, if you arent proactively looking at minimap when theres nothing happening towards your op angle, what are you doing? Tho yes, his team shoulda commed to him that they used Omen ult to pick up spike.
Life playing c like a duelist was the most diabolical thing I’ve seen
Felt like the entire video was watching a fail compilation of Life LMFAO
for the last round i think it has something to do with autumn being the only non Chinese speaking member of the team (of course throughout his tenure on fpx I'm sure he has picked up a bit of the language here and there)
yeah but they all know what 'spike' means so they couldve all said spike gone or something similar that autumn would understand
autumn knows mandarin..he studied in Beijing...
You're being too kind summit
@@huq1690 his mandarin isn't perfect though. P sure FPX have mixed comms
@huq1690 autumn already stated comms have been an issue in past interviews and they have mixed language comms. Also have you heard this guys chinese? Not to be a dick but it is far from fluent and its not like I'm a native Chinese speaker
I am mad and i havent even started the video yet LOL
Bro it’s a video game 😭
@@b0ss124 and you thouht I was serious
@@jidnyesh07 hard to tell with sen fans
XD you didnt even want to comment on that last bit XD the video just simply ended lol
I was actually surprised the video just ended there too
@@vicefamgaming He basically always ends these types of videos with the last round playing out.
Sir, a 5th clowning video has struck an American team.
Sir, a 4th "prx will never win a trophy" video is in the works
Surface level commenters are so cringe, did you even watch the video? It's clowning on FPX
@@priyanshusharma1812he commented 2 mins after the video dropped 😂
To be completely fair, it is a "clowning" in accordance with the TMV narrative, as in he won't particularly mention their highlights in a dominant 2-0 win and instead focus on the team that's been kicked out of champs.
Ah yes. Clowning the team that 2-0'd the mickey mouse CN team lmao.
I can understand his immediate frustration. I was begging for flashes and breach util watching this match yesterday. And I’m in silver.
This has to be the biggest troll of the year. It felt like they just decided yea let's just lose.
no reasonable sen fan would be mad about this video. what they needed most after that geng match was a confidence boost and this was exactly that.
They got soo tilted they didnt communicate ..
Congrats on 100k subs!!! about time.
my friend gets angry when i said sen wasn't that good, it's just fpx was so bad felt like they're amateurs not pros lol
Still waiting for M80 vs TSM Lotus analysis because their lotus comp was GOATED
I had no clue what you were talking about but after finding it....
That is the greatest comp of all time...
Funny comp, but we have already seen the Triple Sentinel Comp before in EMEA Split 1
that is the mad comp and works so much 🤯
@@gpfhantom1890you have to watch that match if you have not 🥶
don't give johnqt any ideas
12:52 it might be the communication issues and Autumn just not understanding chinese here
well he can actually see his whole team rotate as soon as omen ulted so that should give him a sign that he just got the spike with Ult
@@zeatus8391he wouldn’t be looking at minimap in that situation. he’d be focused on the angle he’s holding
@@jordan8270 you can't be that focused to not even know what ur teammates are upto lol.
Wait if autumn doesn’t understand Chinese then why did fpx sign him
@@taser1458 cause he’s good, and they make him learn chinese apparently
who else is here after sen won against geng?
I watched Life's esports career dissolve and it fascinated me
Fpx was miles apart from the TH game. Did they got lobotomized over the span of a week?
@@GreenGoblinCoryintheHouse aura diff ig
@@GreenGoblinCoryintheHouseI deadass thought FPX are gonna win this game. And I still think they have a solid shot, had they played their usual comp. But of course they refused to do that, on their best map, and their last chance in Champs. Congrats to SEN I guess.
It was over for FPX after that 2nd half on Bind, the troll Lotus comp was just the nail in the coffin
Idk why but fpx was on god mode first day and now they aren’t
It’s very confusing
As soon as I saw life on viper, I knew this series was REALLY done. As a long time fan of Chinese esports and their aggressive style, Life has a problem of being the epitome of Chinese aggression to the Nth degree and he lives or dies by that. He doesn't value his life (ironically) on duelists, he never values his life when he plays Clove so how they came to the conclusion of putting him on a critical agent like Viper who gets value simply from being alive is beyond me, and even more so when they have Autumn who is a good and more experienced Viper player than Life, and even if the comp still doesn't work for you like that, you have Lysoar who is a fucking sentinel/Viper player and Autumn can flex.
FPX spent so much of this year looking like they had genuine potential, they even really took it to Heretics again and for their year to end like this is just fucking sad. I'd be in favour of them dropping Life for another duelist like Ninebody (I've had issues with how Life plays for a long time) but Christ do BerLIN & Lysoar look lost at times.
This is such an embarassing match, legit looked like match fixing
The moment i see their comp there is 0% chance to win. This is not icebox u need duelist to take space to enter site, idk how they fail so bad in basic fundementals like this. How did not a single one of them ever point out the massive flaws "hey guys how tf we gonna enter site? Just slow walk every single round?"
The coach should be fired tbh
Im nowhere near a professional, but even I was flabbergasted when the viper peeked 5 people
Congrats on 100k Mr TMV
no cap riot paid off fpx to keep sen in champs for viewership
autumn is really good on viper bro. Life is literally the last player on entire VCT champs you want to put on viper. Nobody is also very much like life. He plays initiator, and very not disciplined, contrast to other initiators. You need sova to retake bro, and he keeps on pushing A icebox every round. They still win, but he fucking throw all game with 90 adr consistently
TMV sad in the thumbnail because sen winning means less of a chance of oiling up
Upon further inspection, Lysoar smoked the spike, meaning the 4 players there couldn't see the Omen ult taking the spike. 12:09
But they clearly heard him ult there and cancel it, it's not like omen's ult is quiet or anything, that was a comms problem, or lack of it
He didn't smoke it off something got placed there I'm not sure what but it wasn't an omen smoke it would've lasted longer. Omen smokes sit for 15 and whatever gets placed there is not an omen smoke
Upon further inspection when tenz grabbed spike the smoke faded and tenz got spike as sentinels headed toward a zellsis throws a nano towards where spike was
Lysoar didn't smoke the spike and the spike wasn't hidden. Smoking the spike would make no sense for FPX anyway. On ACTUAL further inspection, what you see on the minimap is Zellsis's nanoswarm landing on the spike to deny FPX from covering the spike with their bodies, so that Tenz is sure to get it.
FPX saw the Omen ult with their own eyes.
A good point, but they could still most likely hear it. And, if even they didn't, they could literally just check his ult at the top of the screen if he canceled it, which he did.
It’s kinda sad to see cuz their triple smokes comp creates some of the most entertaining games I’ve watched and they came in with a stinker of a comp
Seems fishy don't you think
with the omen spike one maybe there was a communication error between the players? gotta remember that Autumn speaks English and the rest of them Mandarin. Even though they still communicate in the same language it is not totally unlikely scenario to happen
Autumn knows mandarin, he lived in Beijing for a few years
Omen ult moment just makes up the funniest shit ever. LEV vs XSET, FUT vs LEV and now this lmao
Lol keep doubting SEN
during the omen ult situation I believe the rest of the team was comming in mandarin which is why autumn was worried about what was happening
no hate but as a sen fan watching u throw your headphones live was hilarious, good vid TMV rip fpx
Never beating the sen hater allegations 😅
Wonder if this sad old man will now analyse how bad GenG were just so he doesn't have to talk about how good Sentinels were!
tmv crashing out was the clip of the century
When are the in depth analysis videos coming man those are my absolute favorite videos of yours. Keep up the great work!!
If their going to put one of their most aggressive players on Smokes, let alone Viper...might as well try Clove cause having a no duelist comp on one of the most attack sided maps in the game was a choice.
I think SEN not having any trouble playing against FPX is a good sign. It shows they still have their fundamentals.
Not still, theyve regained them. They didn't have even that against GenG 1
so your saying that sen beat arguably the worst team in champs and that proves that they have their fundamentals ? Nah we’re talking about a team who won a masters a few months ago they are washed.
@@enolide did you even watch Sen the past month? Yes they've very clearly only now just regained their fundamentals and team play. They haven't done a single util combo since their last win it feels like she finally now they're pulling it out again and having amazing timing on the peeks and well coordinated retakes. Which they didn't have against GenG.
I shouldn't have to say this dude it's fucking basic shit. Valo 101
Arguably the worst team in champs??? First BLG AND TLN are worse . Second FPX would’ve beat TH if not for a few mistakes the people the beat the favourite for the whole event(geng). They were looking really good going into this game idk what happend tho
@@343JustMe you think sen didn’t do a single utility combination before this game ? 🤣 man all you need to do is watch their last 10 games compared to masters shanghai they have not regained any fundamentals. There is no way this is a victory beating a team with no duelist and a team with little to no comms clearly
Just seeing the line-up, I knew not to bother watching…but what a way to end their season….😬
Worst part is Sen didnt get to see the holes in their strategy with such a poor performance from fpx. That position TenZ was in when he got that 3k he will get killed before he can trade anyone against heretics or GenG. To me it feels like that is such an old strategy now that Fnatc were doing when the map came out. The whole kill a guy then TP out thing
bro they must have seen enough holes in the gen g match...😭
Tenz is always good for one in that angle bro what are you yapping about. We seen Tenz take these angles all the time even against good teams.
Yeah geng will not make stupid careless mistakes like fpx did
L@@urbad411
@@urbad411 about that...
I saw FPX's comp and immediately knew they had lost Lotus, they put the aggressive duelist on probably the least aggressive controller on the team
Man you should have shown it was either pistol or round 2 I don't remember but it was when Life didn't break kj turret and died cause of it. I feel like it showed how troll they were playing this match.
100kmansvalorant, congrats
congratulations on 100k subs!!!!!!
as a sen fan sen looked better i wouldnt say particuarly crazy tho and as we know fpx was a dumpster , i have hope for a win against geng but im also not high on meth
You’re the GOAT TMV, congrats on a well deserved 100k
what the hell is that visual artifacting on the video @ 14:03
it was life's first viper game btw, the coaches must be smoking crack on pipe cus make it make sense 😭😭
SEN just dominated GENG the same way they did FPX. Maybe FPX aint that bad.
Its so painfully obvious how far behind china is. Hate Boostio all you want for it, he was right. China’s second seed doesn’t know basic game mechanics.
Watch Trace beat your favourite team
@@rjun152 I’m not saying my favorite team is good rn either, chances are PRX aren’t making a deep run either 😭
Fr. Edg been dominating in their region for years and they still haven't gotten past 6th place
Idk much about FPX but do we know if Autumn speaks Chinese? Bc I can see a world in which FPX is so tilted that just start speaking in Chinese which just leaves Autumn in a world of his own not knowing really what’s going on.
That being said he has been on the team long enough where he should have at least picked up Val specific vocab (directions left right, callouts) assuming the coms are in Chinese. Bc I mean surely they have a way to communicate since he had been on the team for so long.
Autumn would know enough chinese, a surprising number of Australians can speak a little chinese
not fluently no. thry havr to comm in 2 languages
I was at this game live and the chinese fans were pretty dissatisfied throughout the series
On round 11 TMV sounds so mad and just fucked up by FPX 🤣😂I just love him
The sen clickbait is crazy xD
regardless of what was going on in voice chat, in what universe do you hear SPIKE DOWN C then SCATTER and think that mf is literally as far away from the spike as possible
congratz on 100k
Chamber is a duelist just not a movement duelist, in the same sort of vein as Reyna and Iso where they're essentially just pure aim agents
Initiators are more of a duelist than chamber is. What constitutes a duelist? An agent that can take space and has selfish utility no matter the position. Chamber loses his effectiveness on attack side as he can't take site space on entry easily. Iso at least has a shield and wall to help take site, Reyna has a flash to help take site. Chamber can take first contact sure, but he doesn't have anything else to increase his chances of winning the first contact duel other than getting away to deny the trade.
Lmao I had them losing against GenG in the first game and then winning again, but all the 1st seed upsets really made me question everything
Before watching this video, my gut feeling is that if Sen doesn't try to use a Deadlock comp, they'll do better; not necessarily win, but at least make it closer even if they lose
Sentinels basically forced them to go to C for most of the map without an entry KJ and viper utility is just running to ur death. Like FPX why they tried this was just baffling
The whole match felt like fpx played good first half of bind and just stopped trying for some reason
I don't even disagree that we're not talking about SEN cuz what the hell was FPX thinking trying this comp
I just wish they stuck with what worked with the triple controller, as they only really lost to TH because of throwing a few rounds, not because of the comp
They just looked like they hadn’t practiced this comp as much and put too much thought into a possible antistrat from sentinels
12:50 could be caused by the language barrier ngl, afaik autum is not fluent in mandarin
hey man, congrats for the 100k subs
I don’t think autumn knows Chinese, so him not knowing where the omen is is understandable
As much as I love Sentinels, after watching Tarik's vod, This game on Lotus felt like FPX just gave up. Like so many times I feel like they had the wrong read or just didn't understand what was going on. Obviously no one want's to just go home and lose, but this game, I dunno what they are normally like but things felt off.
Playing with fire, mad respects
Summary of the video-
FPX played so bad that it made SEN looked like they played good.
What about now? Are you going to make another video not praising SEN at all 😂😂😂
for around 12:07 i assumed it was a call on a an opening at B that someone couldve lurked up into? if they didnt call the ult that would be fucking insane lmfao
I assumed it was a language issue cause Autumn doesn’t speak fluent Chinese afaik, but 🤷
@@Christian-vq3lr tbf he has to have picked up some terms and omen ulted spike has gotta be common enough to be one right? like surely you hear that enough times in scrims to know what it means?
my theory is that they thought it's weird that omen ults the spike when he's not on site yet, so none of them were sure where he was
if that's the case , he'd be probably worried about heaven or stairs , but he's looking backsite and presumably drop (because that's a not uncommon place for omen ult), without even glancing at heaven.
@@Christian-vq3lr that is also true; tbh the entire round was so weird with the plays. it started great just to crash and burn
TMV will for sure make a video how GenG lost because they slipped up and not because SEN is better. SEN haters keep on coping
Congrats on 100k
As a Sen fan, I can admit when they do bad. Ik they are capable of being better and I will keep supporting them. What is the point of supporting someone just cuz they are the best.
U should have showed life not breaking the turret
5:25 This match looks like that classic IBuyPower match. No way this isn't match-fixing. How are they CN#2 and play like this? I can't even understand. It's an elimination match, the stakes are high and somehow they just use the shittiest comp possible.
Did the whole team, including the coach just lobotomize themselves? What is this bs, they still have 40 seconds in that round with all five people. And shouldn't Life be playing duelist with how much he pushes randomly? The igl and coach must really love controller comp, too bad nobody in the team has enough IQ to control anything in the map. Honestly China should only get 2 slots.
11:10 TMV U LIAR
bro gentlely kept his headphones on his bed , in rage
Goated Bait
I think while FPX played bad, Sentinels have always been better at maps where Zekken plays raze. They need to work on their maps where Zekken plays Jett, or consider swapping their jett on those maps. Ascent, Haven, (probably Abyss), Icebox, are their weaker maps by far. I know a lot of SEN fans want Tenz on jett, and I think it makes sense for a map like ascent. Tenz likes opping a lot more than Zekken, which is great for their defensive side, and Zekken has some experience playing Kay/o, if they want to go back to the default comp, I think those swaps could work very well.
😭how will this effect fpx's legacy
LMFAOOO 12:50 is amazing
Well well well guess who won 2-0? (Gen.g)
tmv's role in this community is be the biggest hater
🎉🎉🎉congrats mans valorant
ayy 100k-bigups
Someone paid fpx to troll im sure of that
I want FPX to fail, but not this one
9:23 smoking of chokepoints and spamming the spike when tapped is now the meta play no? Seen in sunset too
Autumn deserve a spot in a emea team or NA teams man
or apac cuz he's australian and closer to there
Might be a language issue on the last play
Autumn isnt chinese after all
Put Life on yoru an this game is very different I straight up don't understand why on a map where it's so attack sided you have zero duelists
Bro any sane Sen fan can understand that that match was more of FPX playing with such a lack of fundamentals than Sen playing at their prime. Sen did play good I agree but FPX were so bad
TMV hating on SEN for interactions 100%
i bet they commed in chinese about the omen spike grab and autumn didnt understand
Excellent bait
This makes me think the game was fixed