MUST-KNOW STRATEGIES to BEAT PAY 2 WIN PLAYERS (like me)
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Ash still in denial that hes a fullblown Kraken at this stage 😂
You need 600 speed, 1 million health, 10000 defense, and 7,000 attack, also 2000 acc, and 5,000 res.
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7k attack is a lot? lol
@Elixium_Watches It is a lot in Raid! In most other games, 7k atk is laughably low, but in Raid it's actually really high
Wdym??? For krakens 10k min on your supports...
The main issue with this game is resources tbh as a no money spender it's just difficult to build champions yet alone participate in the tournaments😅
Yeah, chickens are nearly impossible to come by. And farming can't be done while also trying to do events and tournaments
Books are hard
pick one challenge at a time and focus on that. Clanboss > Faction wars > then build toptier champs for all content. With Tournaments and Fusions it´s important to save some up and keep an eye on the competition, i´d largely stay away from winning tournaments, just grab certain high value milestone rewards. It is a grind sure, but after about 1-2 years the account should be set for most content, depending a little bit on luck and doing the right fusions.
@@danielkelley9861 i think you mean impossible 😂
As an FYI Ash: An Orca (which free willy is) is also not a whale. They share some superficial characeristics and are also called 'killer whales" but Orca's are in fact part of the dolphin family.
and another fun fact, Orca's hunt Great While Sharks for their Liver.
Beat me to it lol.
Live Arena is everything else but fun! It´s the biggest pain in the arse one could imagine! Hate it even more than 3v3!
i am lvl 54 , i fight lvl 50 sometimes with fookin mythicals , full legendary teams , while i am stuck with one free legendary (adelin) , there is no fun when you see that you have already lost at the hero selection screen .
i use :
Fenax
Kathun
Athel
Toragi
Chronicler Adelyn
No other choice .
To me the craziest thing is is that people who spend the most typically know the least about the game and vice versa to me thats pure crazy lol
How to beat them : pay more or uninstall. 100% win rate
I never heard that before. "Pull one of these tools out of your ARSEnal." That's gold!
🎶 _We're whalers on the Moon..._ 🎶
🎶 _We carry a harpoon but there ain't,_ 🎶
🎶 _No whales so we tell tall tales and,_ 🎶
🎶 _...Sing a whaling tune !_ 🎶
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Ash, I am liking the change you have made to your videos over the last couple of months. Your focus on strategies has been super useful.
Thanks for the shoutout @ASH!
I hate doing live arena but I know if I want Marius I'll have to do it
Thanks for tuning in :)
beat krakens = just leave the match
no point playing against those aholes who spent 50-500k on the game
Personally I just gear my champs to some PvE roles, then select a team from that. The current live arena team I'm running is this:
Armanz (His role is to get banned. He has a 4* blessing. He's not even wearing gear currently. I can go 50 battles where he gets banned 50 out of 50 times.)
Ragash (Built to smack, with enough accuracy to land stuns and decrease defence in hydra)
Wixwell (Built with resistance for hydra, but the speed, accuracy and damage are all there too. He's a surprisingly strong all rounder. Those counterattacks with provokes catch people off guard too.)
Emic (Also built with resistance for hydra. Basically he puts an unkillable on the team to help the team survive if they get stunned or something. The shield is nice too, and it decreases the cool down on the Ragash smack.)
King Galcobar (I don't think a lot of people know what this champ does. Mine is running at 300+ speed, which surprises a lot of people. At my level I'm outspeeding opponents Arbiter with the 30% speed aura, without using a speed aura myself quite often. One of his moves turns opponents buffs into poisons. The other move turns my debuffs into heals. I run I to a lot of teams that rely on either buffing to the max or debugging my team into oblivion. Either case this guy flips those situations around.)
I lose to absolute meta teams, because my team is not optimised for Pvp at all. However you'd be surprised what level of teams I've taken down.
Thanks for watching ;)
LOL, same tactics for me if I do live arena occasionally. Only picking Armanz to be banned. The rest is a go 2nd team.
The strategy how to beat a player who's got: more champions, better champions, fully awakened champion, fullt empowered champions, better gear, better... everything...
Don't enter into the grinder-pit.
Loving the 80's 90's movie callbacks! Both great movies! Also, this is really great advice! Thank you!
The John Wick nailed it 😂😂
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Ive been saying this since i started a year ago. There needs to be some seperation between krakens and ftp. I can see ftp/lite spending accounts together . Put medium and krakens together or something. The amount of time consumption this game takes is crazy too.
Interesting topic, I’m intrigued
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Intro music went hard with your intro logo thing lol. I watch that rank #1 live arena guy on youtube he started streaming it under the channel KruYseN, he builds the champs for Docmarroe and does the live arena battles def learned a bit about live arena from watching his plays, made me see ankora was actually a meta champ I vaulted her after pulling until I watched him and saw. I can't stand when I lose in live arena vs a p2w lvl 80 with 5m player power when I'm lvl 100 and 11m+ player power lol, but at the same time sometimes I beat people 2x my power and am surprised when I see that. Well said on using off meta, that's one of the most dangerous things in poker is going against someone who doesn't play by the book. Def had battles where I lost when I thought I would sweep BECAUSE I didn't know what one of their champions did. I enjoyed live arena for a bit after building the ankora but I'm hardlocked again lol
This game is rng, so losing to bad players and winning against good players is by design. Rng is frustrating which pushes some ppl to spend more. It’s all by design by Plarium
Saying it again, Ash…. I see such a massive improvement in your content lately… loving it
In arenas, 95% of battle outcomes are known before the battle even begins. Does that sound like a game?
dude what a great idea for live arena, I do have tons of fun
Thanks for helping us beat you up! :)
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Just a note regards to bomb champs, the new demonspawn mythical (komidus) has passive on its alternate form that will 100% reflect bombs back to attacker.
Alika is still kind of my secret weapon . It seems like most players don't even know her or don't see her as a problem.But after her hard hitting A3 left them all nearly helpless,the tables turn and dying season has begun....🤘😂
J cole for the intro# 7 minutes your editor is killing it boss
Can you make a video on rotos? He is the unluckiest champion in the game, he got nerf multiple times, he met udk, stoneskin, harima, arbais,etc, and his still scary, rotos + merciless set buff him. I wanted you to do a montage from the beginning to today
Thanks for the suggestion :)
youre right i face the same single arbiter everyday. i need to switch my team up and think outside the meta ;)
I enjoyed this!
Thanks man! Glad you like it ;)
unorthadox builds are huge for me, I have 5 star brimstone on adelyn so she got a counter attack set and does millions of damagem, and works with the A1 buff steal.
That intro was pretty hard!!!
Hate to break it to ya, Ash; but, killer-whale fell out of use years ago. It's a complete misnomer, as Orca are actually the largest of the dolphin family and completely distinct and separate from the entire whale family! Still lovin' th YT though. ;) ...
These champs are so accessable! Why didn't i think about pulling all of these!😊
Even IF you pulled them, do you have the books? or the gear? or the soul? or masteries?
The amount of stuff that adds to a random champions in what makes them inch more powerful is nuts.
I found with live arena, turn control, block revive and removeing sheilds/stone skin and stealing buffs is a good way to beat a lot of teams. I'm F2P and currently sitting at Gold II 3988. I always use Valkanen ( If he's not banned ) as I got him build like a glass cannon and normally use him to shut down, Sun Wu/ Mithrala/ any reviver.
I don't follow meta's usually in any game as I always think, anyone will just play counters to it. I'm an Overwatch Player so DIve comp in season 5 of OW1 was a good example. I'd play hero's that counter dive comps.
I tend to use Rhonda alot because of the A2 with the block active and passive skills that can't be resisted
Thanks for tuning in ;)
I run a Dracomorph - Korugar - Rathalos - Wukong team that can beat nearly every team I find... if they don't have speed aura or Mithrala. It's really fun to do this even if it's only 10% of all teams. I also put Armanz into the team so he’s always banned.
Who are you beating with that team?
@@jamesgish9202 I can beat non-Mithrala/speed aura teams with this. Mythical included.
@@jamesgish9202Sometimes you need to take into account how a player is built and luck in gear assention with the right build and luck with assention players can get amazing improvement in champions however with the increase in Mythical teams it's getting hard to even get a turn on occasions. Especially when you're free to play like myself I've only been playing just over a year and I've only got 10 legendaries Sun Wukong,
Rathalos, Scyl of the Drake's, Visix the Unbowed,
Ghostborn, Corvis the Corrupter,
Cillian the lucky, Adelyn,
Roric Wyrmbane, Iron Brago, I only got Roric and Corvis last week they have both helped with both clan boss and hydra. 5 out of the ten were either log in 3 Sun Wukong was my game entry gift then a seven day log in was Rathalos followed by another 7 day log in with a bonus 5 star soul after another week of log ins for Adelyn , and 2 were stage progression log in Scyl and Visix.
Right so you never win
@@Apistia it is more effective than you might think. Maybe not so good in silver live arena, but it works wonders on Gold 5 classic. I can win around half the battles in live arena currently
What armor should I put on Retainer?
I would say perception, or something with high enough accuracy so he can land that debuff and turn meter control. He can be useful early game but i wouldn't level him past lvl 50.
Retainer is essentially never worth leveling
I put a cardinal in full stone skin so even if i get beat out by speed, i just respawn my gnishak who can instakill even mythicals
Gamuran at 50 surprises people a bunch. I have Hephraak and Gamuran in stoneskin.
Give my team a try, its actually surprising. Armanz first to stun everyone, acrizia second to kill shields, ninja to freeze, last robar and gets a super nuke from the stun plus freeze and kills whatevers left
Or for live arena I'll throw in deacon and then I can kill turn meter again and again
Ever see the movie "Orca"?
sooooo curiosity question for everyone. What threshold of spending would you consider just P2W, a whale, and a kraken?
When I pulled Taras a few weeks ago I figured I would build a go second team finally. I have Krisk, Nekhret, UDK and Taras on a team now. I find myself using that team more than my Kymar, Lyssandra, Serris and Hephraak speed team. I’m trying to make an infinity shield CB team so I’m hoping changing Krisk doesn’t mess it up.
Thanks for watching, Joe :)
Like the last ones to get fragments to get the orc legendary
Quick FYI, killer whales are actually dolphins.
Thank you for all that you do.. I have a question that I hope u can answer.. how do you let go of a loved one had to put my dog down this morning and not doing great.. right now i don't know how but Be Happy and Safe :)
Hey John, I'm really sorry to hear about your loss. Losing a pet is incredibly hard, and it's normal to feel overwhelmed. Remember to be kind to yourself and take it one step at a time. Reach out to friends/family or a support group if you need to talk. Sending positive vibes your way! Much love
@@ASH-RAID ok I'l try that.. Thank you
Omg ash I am so sorry I haven't been watching your videos. I think CZcams turn off the notification but I'm turning them back on
The problem with Hephrak slow in stoneskin is that if Alonzo or Sun Wukong strip his SS, he's not that hard to take out first. If I'm protection heavy to begin with I'll wear down his team until I can kill him and then nuke. Of course, I rarely cross over into platinum, so that's a different world.
Inithwe and Foli, with their block revive, have carried me in Live Arena...though I'm slumming in G-II.
Thanks for tuning in :)
Ash, can you please make a video about oboro and go into the details.
If you can
He has one. Check his videos
I made one about a month ago: czcams.com/video/qw9uA7rZNIE/video.html
Thanks for watching :)
Flux U. Been using Astra as a speedturn, but also as a take down.
DON'T SPREAD THE WORD 😄
As a new players and f2p. I must say it's hard to keep up with it all.
Getting food level takes forever as we don't have the big exp and chickens.
Trying to gear our champions is just as bad as there is never enough silver
There is much much more that's just no way we keep up. While whales get an even more advantage during these events as they have the resources to benefit from them. Making it even harder to compete against.
Been playing for 3 years now, and I still haven't pick any meta champion for PVP... so I'm still relying solely on Fusions and Free login like, Ankora, Wukong, UDK, Mikage, Ronda, and sometimes Mortu for Live arena... heck I sometimes use Fenax along with Mikage XD
Some of this can work some times against whales who have been mere Pokémon collectors but there are spenders who focus on gear as well - a whale in stoneskin plus savage is often going to laugh at you and I don't want to get started with merciless. Whales in good gear are a whole different kettle of fish and with more and more meta teams having buff strip and block revive , it will be hard. All that said we can still farm live arena for resources and bonuses - disappointment comes only if you are trying to beat milestones
4049 points, 50% win rate, 2525 battles myself. Not a whale, I am a very low spender. My strategy is to enjoy the adrenaline rush and have fun. You might forgot about that y'all :)
hmmm... I have a Hephraak, but I only have 4 Stoneskin pieces, I just recently started doing Hydra. I also have an Astralith
Thanks, I like NOGDAR.
Thanks for watching ;)
Im riding gold 5 comfortably With Arbiter, Siegfrund, Gnishak, Rathalos, & Either my super fast Maneater or Sun Wukong pending team im fighting.
Thanks for watching :)
The issue is the stall is about making the other player have no fun - if you rely on CC as your way to win, you make a sadistic cutscene that can past 5-10 minutes. The CC meta must end
As a f2p with only Wukong as a usable nuker, i have to say that the CC meta has to stay.
If someone picks Wukong before me, all i can do is throw as many cc and tm control champs as i can and hope my acc is enough to land debuffs and instant effects.
It's no fun for me either, but some of us have no other way to compete.
@@achilleaskifonidis5824 The issue is the exact opposite of what you are saying - you use CC as a fallback if you can't fight - the CC meta currently is picking a select few champs, usually armanz, yumeko, mikage, and or warlord and your first resort is to not allow the opponent to play and rely on that to do a slow whittling away of the opponent - so you are seeing 1 champ keep the entire team from playing - and then we have people like Ash (who I have seen use these strategies) praising it and getting mad at anything that counters (like stone skin or polymorph). There is no counter play to my team is stun locked the entire time - if there are reliable counters so that you can do it but I'm not at 100% chance of not even getting a turn it is fine, but it is currently not that and that is the reason it needs to be broken because you will get more options as you progress but this meta removes all options and makes it miserable on everyone
Ash I don't have astralith but I do have lord shazar with his A2 which gives him +50%atk for 2 turns,& it can't be removed+block buffs& extra turn,And his aura is 32% speed that best in game,why would u pick astralith over shazar??. Great video look forward to siege wars.
F2P, but I built up mainly champs that are in the meta for PvP, and I can attest that these strats are effective. I don't touch teams with Foli if I can help it, for example. Would like ideas on how to counter these actually - other than being kraken enough to just survive their attacks. :D
Yes, I saw the Lydia one, and am considering that for sure.
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Willey was a dolphin.
I'm level 78 and 80%+ of the battles I do are against level100 accounts with stacked champs and I'm down in silver. It's getting pretty old.
Hey Ash!! Love your stuff man, I and probably other mid game players need your help!! I've been playing for almost 6 years and I have around 9200 green shards!! I'm sick of looking at them lol. Can you talk to plarium to see if they can make it so we can turn them into silver?
lol these intros im dead. happy 710 yall
as for me im only pushing arena to complete the freaking missions that block you cuz 'YoU nEeD tO uPgRaDe To LeVeL 10 oN tHe GrAnD hAlL'
fun fact killer whales are actually more related to dolphins than whales lol
In events and tournaments, you cant, but one vs one there is a chance you can out gear out skill them depending on their line ups.
Thanks for watching ;)
@@ASH-RAID unfortunately I think that the biggest issue within the game is the power creep of the newer Heroes making the ones that came before and the ones from the start of the game entirely useless in the long run until they feel the need to buff them... its not you boss, but how can pulling somebody like Lord champfort be any better than getting some rare these days.
Just got to level 71 stared playing live arena back to back maxed out accounts 100
I guess i was lucky at lvl 30 then, i got mezomel from one of the 2 or 3 free shards they gave out on release
Dang! Congrats!
What i learned fighting whales in Arena : their champions pool is impressiv but their builds and gear are often crap because whales often just spend money but not enough time to farm gear or build the champions properly...
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Tournaments are or events are so hard to get anything they should fix this
Speed+ control is how I've climbed and will get Quintus within in a couple weeks.
After that ill still do some live for the area bonuses but i have 0 interest in trying to compete in gold V. I'll be forfeiting games to drop a bit in gold 4 and then try to win some.
Thanks for watching, Peter :)
I just pick the same team every time. UDK, Arb, Ronda, Rakka, Gnishak, and if I win great and if I don't so what.
Thanks for watching ;)
mezzy is so underated
Astrith sometimes the bombs dont go
I really like your videos and use them a lot on builds.
However as a new player and pretty much F2P accept a few energy buys
It would be nice on some of the build videos or a don't sleep in this champion.
That when you show off the build. It would be nice to see them paired in battle with someone more like me.
They are nice and all but the champions are getting showcased with more champions someone like me don't have.
you need to check out aroneous hes ftp with no meta champs and killing it in G3 Live arena
I don't use Vogoth and UDK together. Unless Vogoth is hit by multiple attacks, his passive heal won't proc since UDK absorbs all damage from one hit
Vogoth helps with the aoe attacks. UDK only protects from single hits.
If Vogoth takes no damage because of shields or UDK's passive, he does not heal
Nikalaus Streams with us on Twitch. That's cool he gotcha... you smoked me... lol
Lol... Thanks for watching ;)
Your knife will Keeeel.
yes live arena is really funny...especialy if u are f2p and game refuse to give u good champs after 200 shards(that u have save em with blood)
Missed a great chance to call it, Whaling in raid shadow legends
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It's cute, the way to kill a whale, is to in essence, become a whale. Out of 70 pulls, I've not seen one legendary and gotten only a handful of epics. And that's including sacred pulls. It cracks me up when I see a content creator pull 3 sacreds and the 3rd one is a legendary. Must be nice.
Best i can do is Arix with a stun set 😂 and not even good gear, but most enemies dont respect her
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Arena fix: 1/2 the dolphins in the game are sitting at 1300 perma and farming everyone else ruining the game mode. They need to open the format all day on Saturday even once a month something, I am always working or away when the windows of play open. Speed it up, it takes way to long. Stall players should be on a chess clock and just lose by not winning. Cut match time by 50-70%
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Dude you litteraly used Rhonda as scyl
Is it just me or do auto clickers not work on Raid now.
MasterCard™ :D
Best thing you can do when fighting a whale is first pick Armanz 😂
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The biggest thing live arena needs is bots, if you lose 2 matches in a row your 3rd match should be an auto win. We only get 10 free matches in a day. I lose my mind whenever the match making let's me lose 5 times in a row. I wouldnt even care if players abused the system and threw the first 2 matches just to get the easy win. The fact is it isn't rewarding enough for the effort and we don't get enough daily fights to be so brutal.
I'm level 57 and I am consistently placed against level 80 - 100's. The ones that are my level somehow have several Mythics a lot of the time.
Needless to say I lose a lot of matches despite being reasonably savvy (at least I believe so) in arena. They simply out power and have more options to work with.
Matchmaking, at least at lower levels is really bad. I've been placed against the same person back to back. Not really in the mood to lose to the same team again...don't have the champs to switch it up in a rematch.
Feel like I have to utiilize the 3 losses, bot approach to move up ever...which is not fun.
I used to be in your position and still am in a way. The way I used to counter them was with speed and cc. Ban their speed champion to get yours in and a cc champ like criodan or hoskarul, because they can even cc on the a1 when skills are on cool down, preferably in stun set, high speed and accuracy to counter weak affinity. With armanz in the meta it's become more difficult, unless you got him too. I used to ban arbiter, run my high katun and freeze them with criodan. Since then I replaced katun with eostrid and run a fast Ronda to kill the biggest threat, which is most likely wukong in case I got armanz first. I counter stone skin champs with sulfurion or use a man eater in case of hephrak, I still struggle with tormin and hegemons. But this strat has gotten me a hundred points away from quintus. Speed is the way and make sure all your champs go first before the enemy takes their first turn.
@@indrajithak47 Appreciate the insight, speed is what I'm trying to do as well. I do not have Armanz and avoid/ban him always if I encounter him. Going to try and utilize a stun set to see if that nets me a few more advantages. Thanks again for the tips.
its horrible to start grinding up from bronze. Im level 75, low spend with a pretty shallow champ pool still, especially for pvp. Every live arena is either i play a lower level player who i stomp, or i face a low level whale who has an armanz and a bunch of other god tier pvp champs (often with +1,2,3,4) and is hopeless.
As a F2P, I "love" facing those guys who are level 100 and P2P who are somehow in low silver, and bust out a siphi, armanz, another siphi, and some +3 arbiters and/or fully booked and souled leggos or mythicals or whoever, with insane gear. Like, why. Live Arena sucks ass as a f2p. I find it hard to believe someone who has spent so much money in a game just randomly comes back to the game months (a year?) after the release of live arena, only to somehow be in bronze/silver/low gold. I mean, sorry, but if your irl sucks and you get your kicks out on beating someone in a game, ok. At least I didn't spend so much $$$ on a game to win in -2 seconds.
EDIT: Might I add, been playing this game for some years, and just got Mithrala some months ago. It takes forever to get a legendary tome/book, etc. This game is clearly geared to the whales, and of course they get paired against F2P.
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As a f2p player I don't count non permanent fusions and shards champions as a free to play. Those events are only for disgusting pay to winers and whales ñ.
Kraken win all in Game or loose all ( Money in real), Raid is just a pay to win hell;)
I need to pump in like lots of money which i don't have , so it won't happen in my life time😅
I find it ridiculous that upgrading bronze level area bonuses costs the same amount of silver coins from live arena as bronze.
Because you are not understanding the concept of the rewards.
Live arena you get a lot more medals the higher you go in rank for a win, no discount needed when spending. The discount is built into winning more the higher you go.
@@sirenspew ah ok that makes more sense and I have egg on my face. Thank you! 😅
Here is how I got to GOLD 1 starting with a lvl 50 account. I went for 2 speed leads. Arbiter/armanz in my case but any will work but they need to be fast. 250-300 speed. 2 nukers, In my case Rathalos and Fylija and the last spot i kept open to see what they picked. Usually I went for a drop defene champ like UUGO. Uugo is supringsly good in arena if built like a tank, If they nuke your whole team. Guess who is still standing and can revive? UUGO :) and oh, Armanz is not neccecary. He rarely got into battle and was just a ban target.
250-300 is not fast you were probably facing bots bc you aren't beating much with that team
@@jamesgish9202 Even in gold IV and gold V there's plenty of defenses that are 1 champion, or 2 or a weak unlevelteam. You just have to choose your battles. I also can retain my gold IV or gold V standing when attacking team like that. The only thing is, when there's a classic arena tourney on, then you tend to fall harder as arena is more alive, but outside of that its not nearly that impossible.
@skorpion7132 classic arena is easy I thought you were taking that team into live arena
@@jamesgish9202 Who you team up against is also based on player power. I’ve tested this with friends that had a player power 10 times of mine but were in the same Live arena group ranking. My silver 1 was substantially different from their silver 1. So 250-300 speed is more than enough for a new player but not enough for a veteran.
@@Unbiased321 maybe idk about that tbh