"Why Do We Play Games We Hate?"
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Hey man!
Great video. Thanks to this Asmon's find of you iam going to easily follow you. Thank you for great essey and content.
Hi
There is a lot of discussion around reaction videos. Just asking how do you think this has affected you?
Good/bad?
@@xKapnKrunch well is certainly hasn’t hurt haha, nice to have the extra eyes, flattered to be featured here. I get the controversy, but this video is plenty transformative.
The bit about metas is 100% the most important thing. Nothing worse than falling in love with a game and then hitting a point where progression is impossible without drastically shifting your playstyle into an unfun meta
Warframe's meta made it go from borderline my favorite game of all time with 1000+hrs of gameplay to something I look back on with a bit of disdain and now judge people negatively if they're still playing. I have to assume they're doing the "Turbospeed optimal high DPS builds" and all that, when I liked a game where I got to try a bunch of extremely varied and different weapons with a badass space ninja or knight...
I despise the entire concept of speedrunning, so it pretty jarring and sad to find it pop up semi-organically (due to the circumstances and choices devs made) in a game I was previously liking once I started getting higher level. And over time, it became more and more required, and that social requirement migrated down the chain so that even lower level, non high-end endgame content has the expectation that you're 'practising' for your speedy runs at high level. It took about 10 verbal beratements from teammates waiting at the exit for me to understand that even the ones that were quiet were almost certainly annoyed at me for committing the highest sin of... watching my actual WF powers unfold, aiming, and going slightly out of my way to explore for loot. AKA what the game is 'pitched' as being it's main loop, not psychotically paced dash-jump-spin-flip exercises for your pinky and thumb.
(At least defense missions became popular to combat this, but I still haven't completed the solar map b/c the 'death tunnel' runs are so nervewracking and oftentimes I don't "Keep up" so I may bring down the entire run by being 'out of position'. Which, ofc, are all a matter of opinion not fact, but the meta players see themselves as doing the correct thing anyway b/c of the community echochamber on forums, etc and the video content being focused almost purely on efficacy and nothing else.)
And there's only so far you can go playing solo. It's clear the meta players have set the tone of what's being 'demanded' from the playerbase and people like me and many of the commenters in the video asmon is reacting to are the cost of the devs prioritizing those players loud demands. Might make biz sense so at the end of the day, as long as the profit motive and not the experience of their players sets the tone, this is what games will be. Us grognards talk about the old days, but it's just so hard to see a way of life that served you so well go away and slowly become purely impossible to partake in, just like the cranky old conservatives are always bitching about.
league of legends is the spitting image of that kind of disappointment.
You mean 99% of mmos with a meta?
@@angel_of_rust so then just dont play during that meta. league is great because the meta constantly shifts and when your interests align or you find out that maybe this new meta you never tried before is actually fun, then you enjoy playing it. I'm an adc main who didn't like mage meta at first but then I started playing swain/ziggs adc and I liked it more than normal adc. Its on you to understand that the metas in certain games will be way more prolific than in others, and that you should restructure yourself to embrace those changes if you want to keep playing the games.
@@everythingponyI mean yes but also no, the thing that sucks about mmo metas is that there’s multiple classes so generally your class has a designated playstyle for each type of playstyle but also what kind of sucks too is if you love like a pvp playstyle/solo playstyle it could be complete garbage in pve at the same time which limits the content you can play comfortably. Which is kind of like a double edged sword 😔
Concord was a super sonic passenger jet. People in the surrounding areas hated the loud sonic booms they would hear if they were near and like he said, they were blackholes for money.
Indeed , and it was awful as a passenger as well
When I was a kid I travelled a few times in it , and it was just too loud, uncomfortable (not enough space for legs) and thé windows were so little and thick that we couldnt sée anything outside.
Plus thé fact that 3h for a paris New York meant that your day was a 27 hours one, not good for thé soul.
But it was an important thing for thé SoftPower of France during thé cold war, regarding eastern Germany , etc
Mostly political sh!t
also that whole thing with the tires shredding and getting launched into the engines probably didn't help
@@khelom travel is exhausting no matter what but you actually think that it was too short therefore timezones fucked with your head? very fascinating take i'll give you that
@@juiceboxh3ro Could have happened to any plane though, it was the old aircraft who took off in front that lost a piece of metal
@@snuffeldjuret sorry, english is not my native language,
I meant Concorde was important for SoftPower.
And thé longer days were a good thing for businessmen
In thé 80s 90s , no internet, you could quit Paris at 1pm and arrive in NY sooner , around 11am .
For example , in finance field that was a huge advantage as cotations were closed in Europe and still running in Usa until 1pm local time.
An older friend of mine explained me this
Hé made huge money liké this , but told me this was very very tiresome as thé flight was not enjoyable (very noisy inside , no space for your legs , you couldnt sée anything because thé windows were tiny and thick just like in a NASA ship, etc)
And this was very expensive as well
I came for a video about being obsessed with games and bad habits. What I got was called out on my actual behavior toward people. The type of people Asmon is talking about toward the end IS me. And it's crazy that a smack in the face like that has genuinely made me try and rethink my perspective. I needed this more than you could know my friend. Thanks a ton.
This seems like an ephemeral thing, like "it's just games" but I personally want to highlight and commend you for ACTUALLY taking on feedback. It's harder to do than it seems like it should be, regardless of the medium it takes. And practicing in relatively 'flippant' places like games is how people like you grow as individuals across an entire life.
Good job, man, legit.
How you doing bud, you make a change?
Do you mean the part where he was talking about people that see others as beneath or above themselves, or like always glass half empty
It’s a balancing act for sure. You don’t want to be someone who purely sees the good because then bad actors continually erode society. But you also cant get hung up on stuff that’s simply out of your control no matter how hard you try etc.
You definitely need to watch more Daryl Talks Games. He’s incredibly at smacking you in the face with reality in an empathetic but honest way
I remember sometime during cataclysm I realized I was only enjoying myself about 5 percent of the time the other 95 I felt anxious and frustrated. Became like any other unhealthy addiction after the end of the honeymoon period
and yet you keep playing lol...Me with Korean Grindfest MMO in nutshell.
Anxious from a game lolol
@@Mike-om4tvGames illicit emotions by virtue of their design.
Anxiety is an emotion.
Do you have an issue with people having happy emotions from games too?
@Mike-om4tv I used to play an MMO where we would speed run the final boss . Trust me it's pretty nerve wracking if you screw up and every top player in the game thinks your an idiot.
I guess the fact that I had access to SO many games helped, but I invited my buddy over saying 'lets get back into WoW, dude'. He brought his PC and everything.
25 mins into playing a new blood elf in Burning Crusade, I was thinking about how raiding in the end game just seemed so toxic, so annoying to have to show up at certain times, didn't really lead to anything but just more of the same... and went "Bro fuck this!" and alt+F4'd, unsubbed, uninstalled. I've never gone back.
My poor buddy on the other hand played by himself all weekend when we weren't playing MP PS3 games and has been on and off the WoW train, seemingly kinda hating it, for his whole life. I really feel like 18yr old me made SUCH a good decision back then lol.
I'll never forget that first Dwarf Gun-ranger character I made back in vanilla though. That was good times. The rest of WoW.... less so.
Sekiro experience be like:
-> Try it
-> Die in most pathetic ways
-> Blame game mechanics
-> Hate it and drop it
-> Play it again
-> Master Mikiri counter
-> Become skilled enough to obliterate Genichiro with no hits
-> Pass final skill test (Isshin)
-> Fav game
That's pretty fokkin accurate.
Posted like a 4chan user. Noice
I feel like a better gamer after Sekiro
maybe I'm not, but damn if I feel like it
Then play Isshin on x2 speed and get more dopamine
@@Glane6339 it’s supposed to be hard. I believe in you tho
It is indeed a personal thing. When after many many years I tried again the vanilla wow classic servers (private) I felt all the feelings and memories of the time flowing back. I could literally smell again the room I was in as a kid when doing MC for the first time. And you know what? I was glad I had this flashback, and I was very happy to realise that I was lucky enough to experience such an adventure (even if it was on a virtual world) with my friends at such a young age, despite the fact that it is now over. It was a great adventure. I am now looking forward to trying new things, whether this is gaming, social, or career, and I am able to drop anything I do not like without having any regrets about the time spent, because it is the time that I chose how to spent, and it is part of my adventure.
I always love when people find out about the Concorde. It's crazy to see one in person, and I was lucky enough to when it was at the Air Force Museum at Wright-Patterson AFB in Ohio.
My Uncle helped build the thing, would tell me stories about it years later when I was a wee lad. He had all these cool models of it hanging around his house.
I don't play games I hate. If I don't like them I find something else to play. I have deleted plenty of games after an hour and refunded them
Same here, if i don't like a game i can drop it in an instant. My time is too prescious to waste on something i don't like.
I miss the satisfaction of games "ending". I remember being a kid and beating Space Quest for the first time. It was the first game I ever "beat". I was so happy. Granted by today's standards it's an incredibly short game, but back then it felt like I had climbed mount everest. It actually took us a year or so to beat, and when i say "us" I mean my family as we all worked together to solve the puzzles in that game. We didn't have the internet, didn't use a hint book and my parents blocked 900 numbers so we couldn't use the sierra hint line. We just all put all our heads together and eventually finished the game using our own brain power. It felt so good. I also had that feeling several more times with other games as a kid: Zelda A Link to the Past, Ocarina of Time, Final Fantasy IV, VI and VII, Super Metroid and Super Mario World to name a few. It was never as satisfying as that first time beating Space Quest, but it was still very satisfying.
I miss that feeling nowadays because it feels like games are not designed to be "beaten". That was one of the reasons I quit WoW, it just was a never ending treadmill with no resolution. But it's even leaked into single player games. The new Zelda game, for instance, has an ending to the main story, but that's just a small part of the game. Most of the game is a never ending easter egg hunt of of side-quests, finding shrines, finding wells, bubbol gems, outfit upgrades and of course, the 1,000 korok seeds you will need to find in order to feel like you've fully completed the game. And guess what, your reward for finding all the seeds is a lump of shit, no joke, Hestu gives you a big piece of his own shit for finding all 1000 korok seeds, and it's implied that all the korok seeds are actually korok feces because in the description it says they "smell funny". It's like the developers are are actively making fun of you for spending all your time searching their virtual world for virtual shit.
So with newer games I have two choices, I can spend all of the limited time I have left on this planet grinding it all out for hundreds of hours to hopefully get that sense of satisfaction I have fully completed the game. Or just stop playing when I get to the point where it feels like I'm wasting my life. Either way, I never leave the game with a good feeling like I did when I beat those classic games from the 80s and 90s. That feeling of satisfaction is just replaced with the empty feeling that I'm getting old and wasting my life on dumb shit. That's why I enjoy Indie games more. They tend to be shorter, don't have as much side-quest bullshit, and I can feel like I finished a game to my satisfaction when I'm done.
maybe you just got old???
@@carterpollock3885 haha, yes I did. But I felt this 15 years ago too when I was still playing WoW. I was still in my 20s then. It's one of the oldest sayings in entertainment: "leave the audience wanting more" but I feel like most of the triple A games have abandoned this. It's all about keeping players as long as possible until they hate the game.
In Ocarina of Time the final reward for finding and killing the gold skulltullas was unlimited money. By the time you get that, there is nothing left to buy in the game.
I learned that lesson. Ocarina really is thee coming of age story.
@@user-yv4mm6bx3c That's true, but finding all the gold skulltullas doesn't take nearly as long as finding all the korok seeds. I wonder if the devs were trying to teach us a lesson about "greed is bad" with that. Same with the lump of shit reward for koroks seeds, they're trying to tell us not to be so obsessive and try to do everything. Or they're just playing a cruel joke on us. I think it's the latter.
@@DrakusRecords Definitely. As a kid though, those skulltullas were quite an undertaking.
the man confuses frustration with hatred, they are not the same thing. everyone gets frustrated at game mechanics, unfortunate failures, developer faux pa's and all that but frustration or criticism doesnt equal to hatred.
I have the opposite problem. I quit games I like because I didn't play for a couple days and it seems like a whole thing to get back into it. 😅
Me too. I'll be really hype and motivated to play a game all the way home... up until it's time to actually play then suddenly it feels like work and I'd rather just watch a video or something. I know what the issue is, but it's a bitch to actually do anything about
I tend to get distracted after a while. At some point I will start looking for a change of pace or a palette cleanser and a week later will remember I was playing something and I should probably finish it - but I'm currently in the process of playing this other game so...
It's one of the reasons why I rarely actually finish games lol.
Dude just heard of the 1st ever supersonic passenger plane, super elite status symbol of the 90s
Because it's hard to quit when you're emotionally invested
True mate.
And financially invested.
Sunk cost fallacy was the whole reason I even played mist of pandaria and warlords of draenor.
It was because I was so invested, and naively hoped the game would get better.
Yep and then when people are mad about their investments be that time or money will try make other feel the same way for validation (d4)
I for example love apex and its gameplay. Server and monetization vize its shit all over. But i still hope it gets better , because there really isnt other games like it
@@erxan4163 isnt that the game that ppl play who are just to bad for cs:go. anyway, as an player from back in the day (vanilla 2005+cs 1.6 for example) i couldnt care less about game being fun anymore. all are just copycat shit games nowadays, i still play cs:go sometime but honestly games in the era 2006-2010? SHIT WAS DIFF.
That's awesome. Thinking about a game all day is something I've always talked about. If I go to work and I'm telling people who know nothing about gaming about a game im playing because I just can't get enough of it, it's probably a game I love.
18:45 the dark souls backjumping he brings up reminds me of OOT Sidehop spam
To put it simply... because we're good at it. We dont know when to quit and feel like its a waste of time and investment to not display it or exercise it.
I hate irl game And here i am!
Sunk cost fallacy. Gaming companies love players who try to compete in their games, they are the easiest targets.
I liked it ... I was good at it, ... and I was ... I was alive
I don't know man. I know a lot of addicted League players stuck in Bronze and Silver 😂
And after a while, you just feel like you've spent too much time to quit. That all that time must eventually be justified by something.
I think overall, it's about being ok with forgetting about a game and moving on to others. Years pass, we grow, we learn, we experience new games with new ideas and concepts. And many years later, we go back to a game we love. (For me Fable 2) and we remember all the great times and set out to make a new experience for our said game. Whether it's playing differently or just mix things up. Games are fun, our inner child never dies, not if we don't let it. Games are made for entertainment and fun, have fun.
When you pay for something esp with the price of games these days I feel like we try to salvage anything we can from it. That and the nostalgia also droop snoot 😂
@@PatchesFlannigan I don’t play anymore so you can direct that elsewhere, I don’t need the speech but now it’s here for any that do.
The snoot would droop 😄
I just learnt to wait a couple weeks and see if it is any good according to the streamers i like to watch. If the streamers won't play the game, then i just sing a shanty and check for myself, then i just get the game if i like it or i skip it.
It must be in steam tho, because i want those achievements and i want the regional pricing tho.
Daryl has many good videos, the psychology of gaming, how to deal with backlog etc. Its very scientific and thought out. Good content! You should watch more
We all said that about Division 2 “We hope it gets better” 2 games later and still the same broken piece of crap” but I'm still playing it 😭
I weirdly enough don't get that feeling of sadness that something's ending, I get happy I experienced it to begin with and I'm excited to see the conclusion, so I can just restart the game or look forward to rewatching it at some other time.
When I first beat the Mass Effect trilogy I was definitely like, sad about it. Shepard was me, my crew were my friends, to leave them behind was just hard
And gothic 1 and 2.@@FullMetalXV
As for what happened to the concord plane. One of the planes was given to my country in which we keep it inside a hanger and there are tours done where you can learn about the plane and even board it if I remember correctly.
Yo, I liked this edit style adding small clips of Asmon stream into the reaction. GJ editors
I have stopped playing a game to avoid the sadness that comes with finishing it many times with elden ring or dragon age inquisition or even Final Fantasy X. I also only re-watch fellowship for the same reason! I love your takes. You should watch another video from Daryl talks games entitled "psychology of souls" I think it would be good conversation.
My man, FFX is tge BEST and you could spend 10 years in the calmlands
Wow someone that likes DAI? There are dozens of us. Dozens.
@@mramisuzuki6962Hello, shield brother! 😁
I think that's why every major release needs to have an free 1-2hr demo. We can't test games anymore and once we actually buy it we're too lazy to refund. It's better to test before the purchase.
I also couldn't watch the last episode "Meanwhile" from Futurama until recently. It hurt so much knowing it was the end, unlike most shows it ended.. perfectly. It was always a happy/sad moment at the same time watching it. BUT IT'S BACK! Yaaaaaaay.
But now you’ll have a new “last” episode to not watch!
39:50 This is massively important for mental health. I struggle with over-introspection like this and after I realized and stopped this with my therapist's help, I realized how unlikeable I was. I was high-maintenence, insecure, even paranoid, and no wonder I didn't like myself, I don't like other people like this.
It’s taken me a while to learn to tone things back as I’m the same. My only problem is I literally don’t know what to fill the conversation with in its void, so I’m just more quiet now.
48:07 As an achievement hunter, I tend to play games pretty thoroughly and after I've reached that 100% I'm usually done with the game and have no motivation to play it any longer. There are exceptions of course but I don't have that problem of draining the fun out of any given game to the point where it actually changes how I feel about it. I don't find it difficult to play something as much as I want to and just go on with my life as soon as I've had my fill.
It's being able to see them for what they are appreciate them and have them be part of your life without them being your life. - Asmongold
You would think diablo IS his life though. He plays it more than anything. He used to start streams with reacts but now its Diablo lmao
For me honestly, dark souls 3 was my first soulsborne game and I still remember going to see Irithyll of the Boreal Valley, it literally took my breath away. It sucks knowing I will never experience it again but it makes me feel happy knowing I got to experience it
My brother bought a Heathrow to NY return going out on a 747 back on Concorde. The face price of the ticket was about £2500 but he got a deal and paid less than half that. This was in the late 90s
We don't play the games we hate. We hate the games we also love. Because both feelings are strongly connected to each other. At least those games can cause some emotions in us, so it can be strongly positive or negative, but at least we care.
I agree bone spear and blood mist arent the most fun builds. I did a summoner/bone spear build that was pretty fun and effective pre-season. Now in season one doing a sever/blighted corpse explosion/bone storm/ summoner build that im hoping to make really effective and more fun... Just need to find another ring of Mendeln to make the minion part of the build work and bring it all together.
8:22 Amen brother. All my old friend group got sucked into the game and never really recovered.
12:56 "The frogs in Jedi Survivor" It was the water that did it to them frogs.
I used to do that, for me it stopped when I started to treat my adhd. Before I was playing lost ark and had such a disdain for the game that when I had to focus more on my career and got that "excuse to stop playing" was a relieve for me plus seeking out adhd treatment. Now I got diablo 4, started playing and when I felt bored with the game, I just stopped. I just don't feel that attachment to any game anymore.
same, and by treating your adhd, you also starting to improve your ''life''... now you find more pleasure in discovering the ''outside aka real'' world. My motivation brain trick is ''how good do i feel after doing it''... Morning gym is easy now
totally agree on time wasted vs enjoyment. I loved the D4 story, except there was no Diablo in the game. But once you hit the point where story is gone and the rest is build farming you lose that arm wrestling match and it's no longer "Fun"
The SST (Super-Sonic Speed Transport) Concord was my favorite when I was a kid.
A weird premise, since I do not play games that I hate.
I think it's a good thing for most games to be accessible to a wider audience, but I also think it's cool that you have some esports with insanely high skill ceilings like starcraft and melee. I don't think that makes those games bad at all, I think it's what makes them great actually. Not every game has to be super accessible like LoL or fortnight
Huh you could play me in Starcraft, i promise you would find the game super accessible
No shot you just called LoL accessible, and this is coming from someone who doesn't actually hate the game lmao
@@JustAKonchu I'm pretty sure the developers explicitly stated that their goal was to make a more accessible version of DotA. Plus everyone and their mom plays LoL. They were successful in making it accessible, that's why it's the most played MOBA, and one of the most popular games in general.
@@prestonbeaulieu4379 I've introduced people to league before and in my experience more drop it early than they stick with it. Accessible relative to another game isn't necessarily accessible.
It's not that esports games are innately inaccessible, it's how competitive and tryhard you are about them. Just because because people make millions playing football, basketball or whatever sport on international level doesn't mean you can't shoot some hoops with your mates on a weekend.
I had to also laugh at the “30 hours in”part😂 if I walked away from a game after only 30 hours I probably didn’t find it interesting enough to continue
Omg the Concord "beak" moved to be straight when at speed and lowered during takeoff and landing for pilots sightline.
The Concorde, one of only two supersonic commercial jets in service to date, was retired in late 2003 - after flying for 27 years. Following a farewell tour around North America and the United Kingdom, British Airways and Air France retired all 20 Concordes that were built, of which 16 flew.
You're welcome!
You can time travel with then planes lol
@@Nardage I remember that at the time, people where celebrating the new year in Paris, before taking the plane and celebrating it in New York
Thing can be incredibly fun and the source of your utmost insane frustration at the same time.
actually with melee and lot of its evolutions are based on known mechanics from playtests even within the initial development, and an active choice was made to keep them in the game. There's a few videos with references to stuff like wavedashing / L canceling being known about in development, and that character attributes played a size in how effective it was, and it was decided to keep it in to add depth.
doesn anyone remember Gunz the duel, started that game when i was younger and the skill ceiling was so high, loved the challenge of trying to double/triple butterfly
What I find interesting is the line between 1. Really enjoyable game design to induce player engagement and retention, and 2. Transparently lazy, bordering on malicious design to exploit the tendency to play a crap game that everyone wishes was great. At first glace option 1 seems like it would be a better way to keep players, but it seems in reality that both are pretty effective. At least in the beginning.
If i don't like a game, i don't play the game... The fuck are y'all doing?!
Lost Ark 😮you look so pumped and amazed playing when I watched you play awesome underwater battle… your team got you thru it…
46:30... I was listening to this... in this exact situation. I am writting this in front of the stairs to the tree... This felt personal.
I cant relate. I never played a game I hated for more than a few minutes.
Big facts lol. Idk why people stay suffering
@@Caliyusangel226 sunk cost fallacy. you paid for the game so you try to get your money's worth out of the game even if you hate the game same for time invested in the game.
@h13n12 or I just enjoyed what I played rather than hate. just because there's a term doesn't mean I suffer from it. I return what I didn't like and what I didn't return I didn't play. Pretty simple.
It's because those people are video game addicts, no joke. They've rewired their brains to only get enjoyment from video games so they have to play them. Normal people if they don't like a game they put it down and go do something else. Literally anything, there's tons of things to do in life.
Me neither. I don't like it, I don't play it.
I play video games to escape reality. Either I’ll love it or dislike it, but I’ll never hate it as it immediately does its job of distracting me.
Very sad you feel the need to escape reality so much. Playing games will often just postpone you bettering your life to a point you don’t need to stick your head in the sand so often.
Escaping reality should not be a primary motivator for anything that you do often.
god i miss the concorde , It would land Sundays at miami ineternational airport up until the late 80s for nonstop service to London. inbound at 11am because thats when i would walk into 11 am mass and would make sure to look up for that beautiful aircraft it was something else.
I like nekto minion/bone build , find it fun but I totally agree it feels like an archer, I tried Rouge but bone spear is a better pen shot , so I'm sticking to nekro
I can't tell you how many games i quit playing because i knew i was almost at the end. You went so far to get there, its been a blast, the story is compelling.. but its obviously leading up to the final boss. You know you have that one last push and its all over. I dont want it to be over yet! So ill put it aside for now..
Never went back and finished it.
Its self defeating and stupid, i know.
Kinda like when youre watching a great, intriguing comedy movie. Every moment is a laugh a minute. But as it nears the end, you start feeling sad, because its almost over, and there wont be any more fun moments to enjoy.
This is what i think makes a game or movie good though. They hook you in so much that you just dont want it to end. But most games nowadays are intentionally made to keep you hooked on them for the wrong reasons. Its either for play time statistics or monetary incentive for the company. Play for so long per day by compulsion, buy our microtransactions, finish for the day and move on to the next game with the same agenda.
Escape from Tarkov is all i have to say here
I know it's a bit late but I know why that nose aims down, it had to be a certain length for the ideal aerodynamics but early tests showed the pilot couldn't see the runway when taking off or landing, particularly when the craft was tilted skyward as it gained or lost speed. So they added the ability for the nose to be lowered when it came time to land so the runway could better be seen, and when aerodynamics didn't matter as much. During cruising speeds the nose would have been in the more expected forward facing position, the pilots had a lever for it in the cockpit as well.
The nose cone of the concord is built that way to be less obstructive to pilots view while landing
we don't. the people with working brain stems find games they enjoy.
Factual
Asmon, serious question: what are the objective standards that a boss fight should comply with in order to be a good boss fight? If there were such agreed standards then maybe game developers would make better boss fights.
Hard but fair unique move set from the rest of the bosses and a personality about the way they fight a style basically that's what makes a good boss fight for me and if possible a good area to fight
@@specialperson170all boss fights are bad boss fights for crpg fans scratch that MMO fans in general
@@lop90ful1 yeah I've personally never played a mmo with a good boss fight but I also have not played very many
The reason the won’t make better boss fights are because they have to answer to the board, have time constraints, etc. they need new content released by certain dates to make the shareholders money.
its impossible to determine good and bad or better and worse objectively. good and bad are inherently about opinion and therefore entirely subjective.
It's crazy hearing Asmon talk about when he heard the song Gold digger on his bus every day to school because I'm his age and I literally had the same experience whenever I think back to taking the bus I immediately reminded of that song
i love watching you react to video essays
I feel bad for the person saying that looking at the brightside of things and staying positive is an "out of touch take" hopefully they figure out how many problems they cause themselves regularly
Well I still play Genshin every single day from day 1 because it's actually fun and if there are no new events it will take me only 10 minutes to do dailies during my lunch break or when i commute and i still can earn enough free currency to wish for the character that i want quite often. If i hate a game i just don't play it LOL
Toulouse France, sounded like To Lose Friends, and it was answering so great to "why we play game we hate ?"
Concorde's comeback after the crash was on September 11th, 2001. In another universe, it's still flying as a prestige toy.
Why are people in relationships they hate? Why are people working jobs they hate? Why do people hate-watch content creators they hate? Why do people consume news & media they hate?
Its a easier reaction that causes a reaction and a release from inside the brain in other words… its harder to be good than its easier to be evil
I think we all can see the answer yet at the same time its very far too reach that answer
I wouldn't say all of those have the same answers, if that's what you're implying.
@@SRFAA I agree, definitely not the same answer (somewhat linked though), but people do things they hate all the time to the point where it's not really surprising that it's the case with video games also.
Its a iffy reason because we are all so different lol
I find it remarkably amazing how most people shit on League, yet it's still top 3 overall (considering everything, from the 150+ million active monthly players, to the 1.5+ billion revenue per year, to top 3 biggest Games on twitch and overall game with the most hours watched EVER) biggest Games out there.
Perhaps the large player base and general visibility of it, increases the percentage of people who won’t/don’t like it.
The people who shit on League are either:
1. Dota players, or more likely:
2. League players
Isn't it really popular in Asia? That's probably why it has inflated numbers compared to the hate.
7:45 I recently did just that and found only 3 reasons to "hate it": Adaptation, health loss on death and mouse+keyboard controls.
And they are heavily outweighed by positives of this game.
- Power stancing is the best feature that only in Elden Ring got brought back.
- The locations may not be so intricately intertwined like in DS1, but they are pleasing and memorable enough by themselves that it's not a turn-off
- Best DLCs of the franchise
- Bonfire aesthetic mechanic is awesome and I wish it was recurring feature. Being able to farm specific NG+ items without going through the whole game again helps tremendously with replayability by not burning you out having to grind all the way through the game multiple times. It's something for which I also appreciate Remnant, with it's adventure mode.
- Some of the best in the series covenants. Great diversity of the ways to engage in pvp without any DLC needed for properly integrated arenas. Too bad the playerbase has dwindled, but I still had occasional invasion, and got pulled into a rat dungeon.
People mad at it for not being perfectly in line with the rest of the franchise are blind to the many positives of it. Treat it like a spin-off or "worst in the trilogy" if you wish, but treating it as "bad game" is unfounded.
One thing that I miss about growing up on handheld Nintendo devices. Ie. Gameboy Advanced SP/Gameboy OG, DSI, 3DS. For the first two you could buy cartridges for pretty cheap or even rent one to demo it. Then later on a ton of the games had really well developed Demos to where I almost never had a bad gaming experience then, if I didn't like a game I'd decide that during a demo, when renting or it'd be a cheap temporary investment. Now that whole screening process is a lot different.
I have 1.5k hours in Skyrim and enjoyed every hour. it's one i come back to less frequently over time but its a game that i know i'll always come back to for another playthrough. When the current state of gaming frustrates me it's a nice refreshment from battle passes and censorship and political messaging.
Weird to see someone write something like that, because Skyrim sucked 12 years ago and now its so much worse
There are so many games out there, I've learn to just play the games I enjoy, if a game is boring me I have a list of 10 other games I want to play that will probably make me hype to play again.
the "beak" almost comes down when landing and taxing for better visibility. And it raises up in flight
Concorde flew so fast that if you took a flight in the late evening in the direction of when the sun set you would see the sun rising up again.
Sad to see them go but I don’t miss the noise of them flying over my house, that ish was loud
Let's goo darlyktalksgames, such an underrated CZcamsr
It's called the droop snoot, and it's because of the angle of attack required during take off and landing, it allows the pilots to still have decent visibility.
17:29 Light Attack weaving in ESO comes to mind.
Even if the concord cost way more to build, they would be able to do more than double the ammount of trips because of the speed and also staff wages would offset the cost of building it because in 1 day the plane staff can work 2 or 3 trips between london and new york rather than just 1 in a normal plane.
47:49 My friend is the same way. He has watched all of breaking bad except the final episode. I was like “WHAT? HOW?” 😂
fun video, made me think and chuckle
sometimes sunken cost falacy is a good thing. I have spent so much time practicing and playing guitar, I simply can't quit. And trust me, there were times were I really wanted to quit, because the hobby itself felt frustrating or i was in a low point in life.
My grandfather trained the first pilots on the concord and was on the 1st flight as well
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I’m blessed , maybe it’s my age or other stresses- I come home from work and play if I’m into a game! I’ll admit I love destiny 2 , but I’m on a 9 mo break- I’ve done this a ton of times. I’m 200+ hrs into elden ring , think about it at work, think about it more then is normal, but there are several games I own I’ve not played and when I get stuck and mad more then a few times right after logging on I change to a new game.
the concord that crashed was due to fod on the runway that punctured a tire and cause a fire. improper walkdown of the the runway prior to that flight led to the mishap
The beak actually straightens up when it flies.
that "lost" feeling gets me with WoW retail. I started DF, then life pulled me away. Now, I'm doing Classic HC, but I'll sign into my main on retail once here and there... and have no idea what to do, lol. I know I need to do "everything" but I have zero idea what that everything is... or even just where to start. 10 minutes later... I generally sign out can go back to HC where things make sense, lol.
Sometimes i get so sad when i am really close to what i think is the ending that i find myself unable to finish it.
I play counter strike for 20 years now, still love the game. Only times I get mad is against myself for missing something I wouldnt usually miss. Perks of getting older maybe, it makes you calmer
Gotta mention about the concord, a ticket NY - London in 1990 was 6000$, and the noise was so bad you couldent talk to the person next to you. The food was usual horrible airplane shit.......and yup did have the pleasure for a single flight in 1989 with my aunt who worked for British Airways at the time, who got got a "cheap" employee ticket, and that was my 15th year birthday present from her, did have to fly regular 747 on the return flight.
47:50 bruh this is a genius tactic but i also hate how real this is lol i hate it when something so good..... just ends . And its just done. No more . Its the first playthrough (or if you decide to rewatch/play a series again you haven't played in years because you don't remember alot of it. ) that just makes you so depressed and makes you think that it's not gonna be this good again after the first time round. It's why i usually take huge breaks after certain series binging, it gets to me sometimes lol especially if a series is that fucking good . Even though i watched LOTR and the hobbit extended trilogies hundreds of fucking times by this point , watching return of the king after watching all 6 movies, i will always have this feeling lol the one movie series that will never get old to me. It's such an amazing but sometimes a gut punching/depressing thing to go through/have at times like these. It sucks when so many great things gotta have sad endings sometimes.
Dude, it really is so sad when you lose that initial excitement you used to have for a game. I used to love OG borderlands so much and was so in love with it when I first played it. When I platinum trophied that game and just lost the high from playing it I remember being so depressed lol
this is me with genshin impact. Ive played genshin since day 2. and ive played the game EVERY SINGLE TIME. thats right, every day, whether im sick or busy, ill make sure to play at least 30 mins or whenever i can finish dailies.
everything became a chore but in first 2 years it was still fun as i have friends who i can do stuff with and explore with but i noticed at some point they start to quit left and right until i only have 1 person to play with.
it struck to me how much tedious this game makes me feel and how much time it consumed from my life and how HARD it is for me to just drop it and walk away, it was really impossible as ive sank hundreds of hours into it and spent plenty,
patch 3.0 came, and for some reason i didnt have the motivation to explore it.
I still go online to do dailies but i never actually even visited the whole new area even after a month past.
I noticed people are having fun with it and how much new mechanics have been introduced to the game but somehow, i felt left out.
But instead of feeling sad or jealous, I felt relieved.
For the first time of me playing this game, i felt like i never have to be part of it anymore. I dont have to be updated, and be the first to try out things like i used to.
I HAD perfect attendance on this game, but this time not anymore,
I stopped playing for a day, til it becomes 3, til a week, anda month.
Then the next patch came in, i never felt the urge to update my launcher anymore. finally i found a reason to physically not be able to even start the game.
and then i felt true freedom.
I didnt want to keep playing the game til i end up absolutely hating the game, so i managed to let it go.
this was very hard, but i finally did it.
turns out, playing a game you love can cause a burnout when played for too much, that's something i never thought would happen to me.
I played a good chunk of LoL in highschool, it was a tonne of fun and then my friends started getting in to ranked, and taking the game seriously, really caring about winning or losing, and letting that retroactively determine if they had fun, so i stopped playing
I was literally thinking about hollow knight as a game i never ended up finishing, i got to the end part of the game too, i actually really liked it. It was my first ever video game, but now that i've been playing other things i have no interest in finishing..kinda feels sad.
People play games for the mechanics. They stick with/finish games based on the story, even if that story is made yourself a la survival games. Hollow Knight is one of my favorite games of all time for the aesthetic and story, but it STAYED at the top of my "Now Playing" list because the second to second gameplay was extremely rewarding, I didn't feel like I hit any real BS even a few hard bosses, and was pretty. I booted the game up to 'see what happens next' but I didn't put it down because the gamefeel made getting to the next "next" feel good pretty much the entire time.
I feel like, pretty certainly, this is what Asmon says about a difference between a good game and a game a person enjoys. HK is pretty objectively a good game, but if you like.... hate bugs then you can hate Hollow Knight still. But if you absolutely LOVE bugs you might like a game that's kinda objectively less good but with that theme. It does kinda blow my mind how many game design basics are just not in common discussions when gamers talk about this stuff. I guess it's more common in the Boardgame community since the mechanics are more transparent and it's kinda the only thing you CAN talk about with your friends once you get past theme.
Humans taste and desire =/= Anything that is objectively good. But you can measure 'goodness' by trends and overall consensus. Because really, there's nothing else actually possible to measure due to how different we all are and our own perspectives inform our reality to the point of being limitless data.
The French and the Brits built a passenger missile lol. The plane was badass.
Dang that Lord of the Rings comments at around 47:50 really hits different.
that's crazy it tied back to the concord jet!
@33:00 My cousin still is playing Diablo 4 and he loves it.
He wanted to feel the story of a diablo he saw being released once in his life. Sadly for him he was too young for Diablo 3 (he was born the year I was playing 20hours minimum per week of Diablo 1 !). So he dodged diablo immortal but in entrenched in the new season of Diablo 4, has been on it since day -3 cuz he got it preorder... he loves the game to no end
8:51 I used to have a large jug of water next to my beat saber play space, I would do hours long sessions and drink my fill until my arms start to get tired, because that's when I started doing poorly. I used to refuse water for up to 4 hours once, "you can't get a drink until you pass this level." It was a very effective strategy in boosting my ranking.