Star Ocean The Second Story Review! - The Game Collection
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- Welcome back to The Game Collection! Today’s video is brought to you today by the supporters of the show over on Patreon, and subscribers on Twitch. Everyone got together and created a list of games they wanted to see a review of, no game was off the table. And then they voted decided which of those games I would review next. The competition was fierce, and included games like Golden Sun, the Tales series, and dozens of others but in the end, one game slowly but steadily rose through the ranks. One game was chosen above all the others. And now, finally, after spending dozens of hours playing through it, I can see exactly why it was chosen. And now it’s time to dig into it! I am SuperDerek, and this is Star Ocean: The Second Story!
Star Ocean: The Second Story was the first Star Ocean game to come to the United States and was, in fact, the way a great many people first experienced this epic series. However as the name would imply this is actually the second entry in the series. Second Story is a follow up the Super Famicom release of Star Ocean, which wasn’t officially localized and published in the west until its PSP re-release: Star Ocean: First Departure… But that’s a story for another day.
The series has an interesting pedigree, with many of its creators having worked on Tales of Phantasia prior. When several team members split from Wolfteam, they formed their own development studio, Tri-Ace, and have been making Star Ocean and Valkyrie Profile games ever since. Because of this, you can see the influences in the game as it plays out in a mixture of action RPG and menu-based battle mechanics. However, as the name might imply, this game isn’t exactly your run-of-the-mill medieval fantasy.
The game opens with presenting the player with a choice, you may choose which protagonist the game will follow throughout its duration. This blind choice will affect a few things down the road, such as recruitable characters, which bits of the story the player will be privy to, and the like. The choice is between Claude and Rena, two characters who at a glance are worlds apart. Because Rena has healing magic, I opted for her story. But it didn’t take long before the two were united.
While visiting a forest near her home town, Rena is attacked by a beast! Seemingly from nowhere, Claude intervenes, “sword” flashing. To Rena, he’s a vision of the foretold hero, destined to save the world from calamity. And as luck would have it, there just so happens to be a calamity afflicting the world in the form of the Sorcery Globe, which fell from the sky and is causing all sorts of problems. Claude, oblivious to this apparent destiny and not wanting to be rude and also not really having anywhere else to go, follows Rena into town.
Glossing over many of the smaller details, Claude and Rena end up going on an adventure to investigate the sorcery globe. A task that draws the unsuspecting Claude and Rena into a conflict far more immense than anyone could have imagined.
The whole concept of a foretold hero of light coming to save the world during its time of need is a story as old and tired as storytelling itself. Star Ocean the Second Story turns the trope on its ear though by mixing in a science-fantasy bend and a small dash of “Dances with Wolves”. And with a name like “Star Ocean,” and this amazing cinematic, I don’t think it’s a huge spoiler to say that this game does in fact get quite sci-fi. And when it does, the Second Story truly starts to shine.
Along the way you have the ability to recruit a bunch of characters to join you. There are 12 total playable characters, but only 8 slots in your party including Claude and Rena. Recruiting some characters may prevent you from being able to recruit others, and some characters are completely missable if you aren’t thorough. The game wants you to, no, demands that you to explore it thoroughly if you want to see everything. And it will take several playthroughs to do it. The characters you recruit, the answers you respond to questions with, and the actions you take throughout the game’s duration will determine which combination of endings you will be presented by the end of the game, resulting in something to the tune of a whopping 80 possible endings. That’s right. 80. The Second Story is a massively ambitious game, and it shows in details like this.
I guess what I’m getting at is that if someone ever asks you if there was one JRPG you had to play for the rest of your life, what would it be, you probably wouldn’t ever run out of things to learn and do in The Second Story.
#starocean2 #review #staroceanthesecondstoryr - Hry
Okay so a quick thing about the STEALING mechanic that my brother and I thought was absolutely amazing Lore-wise. Pay close attention to the ITEMS that a lot of people are holding. Some of them are pretty obviously expected things like the Shopkeeper having Armor or Herbs. Others have items that tell a HUGE story about who held them. That couple at the Hotel that's newlywed? One has a Ring of Happiness. The other? A LIFE INSURANCE POLICY. Its just one of many, many examples just like it throughout the entire game. Every town has several NPCs like this.
Oh man I noticed some of that! I think I even stole medicine from a sick girl. I felt *terrible* after that! >.
@@SuperDerek Right? How about that Rocket Pendant on the docks from that child? I don't know if you ended up doing a Claude playthrough, but it's a possible theft during a PA only he can experience and it makes Claude feel so bad he.... Ditches the item instead of returning it to the kid. Because that makes sense? XD
Amazing. Now I want to go back and play the game a third time... o_o
You only lose affection ratings if you fail at stealing. Its a pain but if you save everytime you successfully steal and reset if you fail you can raid a whole city without lowering affection. using skills like counterfeit too much result in lower ratings. Thats why i make one of every useful item in counterfeit then duplicate them with a camera. Theres a neat way to get eternal sphere in disc 1 but requires a lot of steps and proper set up. Starting out a new game with protagonist having nimble fingers talent is a must.
It’s those little touches that show how much the people who worked on the game care about the finished product. Not enough put that level of thought into making the world feel that alive. ;)
I hope they port this one to the switch like they are first departure. id love to play this game, especially on the switch
The thing is the PS1 and PSP versions are a little different in that the PSP version had anime cutscenes. If it gets ported to the Switch, I hope you'd be able to disable those. But yeah, I hope it gets ported too!
Ps1 emulator and a ps4 or xbox one controller and youre all set!
@@codyross1686 If you buy a physical copy you can also legally emulate it too... Emulation is a form of backup if your console craps out etc. Causing you to be unable to use your physical copy.
justin defreitas : yes dude , but in physical version , not in demat...
Best RPG of its time and still the best, I’ve beat it so many times. I really hope it comes to switch, I will be so thrilled. I’m currently trying to get to to play in my Raspberry pi lol
Such a classic.
This is legit my favorite RPG of all time. Thank you for making this video.
I'm torn between this, Lunar Sliver Star Story, and Grandia One (witch I just got for PC finally).
This one had me occupied for a good six months my freshman year.
@@aylbdrmadison1051 i just started playing lunar silver star story. really enjoying it but now i'm seriously tempted to drop it and try this out. this looks amazing and i'm not sure i have the patience to wait til i finish lunar, feels like it's probably a very long game as well.
my favorites are probably nocturne and digital devil saga. i like a challenge in my games, and as much as i enjoy many of these ps1 rpgs, many of them are so easy you rarely (if ever) die. that's why atlus is my favorite rpg company, you have to put serious thought into battle or it'll kick your ass, and sometimes it'll kick your ass anyhow. it can be frustrating at times, but i prefer that over just repeating the same attacks every turn throughout the entire game.
@@Jack_80 Keep with Lunar. It is a great game. Honestly, one of the best on PS1. I put it just slightly below SO2. And since SO2 is my favorite game of all time that says a lot. I haven't found any rpg since PS2 to come close.
I’ve never seen Derek more excited reviewing a game. This really feels like classic Derek, maybe it was the opening that got me.
I can really tell this could have easily been an hour long review from the excitement in your voice. This was worth the wait buddy
The magic system also allows spells to interact with others, changing the effects of them, essentially creating new spells.
You brought back the old intro sequence with the awesome theme music and everything! HELL YEAH!!!😀👍
I first thought this was a re-upload of an old video because of that intro!
Love that intro!
Wish CZcamsrs wouldn't listen to y'all. Rarely get anything new cause y'all stuck on the old
This game is easily tied for my favorite rpg of all time with xenogears. Glad you finally got to experience it.
Great review. Star Ocean: The Second Story was my very first JRPG and I find it just as fun to play nowadays. Definitely agree with you on its overambitious nature - between item creation, private actions, the various characters and the bonus dungeon, there's just so much content packed into two discs alongside the main story stuff. Glad you finally got around to playing this gem!
The seemingly infinite skills remind me of the old D&D games 😆
Most underrated JRPG of all time.
this was my first ever rpg and then i went to chrono cross and then chrono trigger as well star ocean the first game a snes english patch . Dang so much nostalgia for me in my late teens mmm such a good dam time .
Should I play it? 👀
@@kevintemido yes. Lot's of secrets multiple playthroughs. 2 main characters and other branching recruits. There's a tower that you can finish outside the main story that has enemies on steroids. I can't remember I played this when I was 11 lol
@@kevintemido but it's a good damn game. And I say it's underrated because not many people talk about it
I've been playing this game since I was 5 years old and even I haven't seen everything in this game! Thank you so much for your great review, and am excited to eventually see you explore the series
How old are you tho
"10 seconds."
"That's about 50 points!"
"Energgyyyyyyy Arrowww!"
"How did they? When did they?"
Celine had some of the best lines. Lol :)
Explooooooode
Can't wait to confuse people this friday with how I'm here this early
OutOfTheShadows - too late, cats out of the bag
how you do magic man?
@@peanutbutterrobot Wellllllll, I saw this time machine lying around, and figured, might as well
Who remembers "Star Ocean EX," the anime version of the game? Just me? Probably for the best. I don't even think it covered the whole story, and the only thing I really remember was that Ashton was the comic relief with terrible luck, and liked Precis waaaaaay too much.
Don't recall that,
One thing I love about star ocean 2nd story is that I could easily go back to it even to this day and still having so much fun playing it. One of the most underrated masterpiece of the ps1 era. The music and ost was also pretty amazing for its time.
I remember playing this game on the psp back in 2010 those were good days
What a lot of people don't know about this amazing game, is that it has a 2-player function! If you have a second controller, a friend can control a party member while in battles!
Y E S
Whaaaaaat?
I wish!
Man, i loved this game. The PSX version is still my preference over Second Evolution. It's imprefections are what makes it so good.
I like the 3d models in PSX items better than the 2d items in Second Evolution.
100% agreed
You forgot to mention one thing about spell casting in this game; when two characters of a team casts a spell (when they are done changing and actually casts it) at the same time, they both becomes stronger and the animation uses both of theirs at the same time.
This has been my favorite game since I was a kid so seeing this on my recommendation easily earned a subscription 🥰
Soooo great hearing that intro music again! And that epic leap onto the "Game Sofa" is priceless.
This game and Suikoden 2 are my favorite of all time! I spent 100+ hours and holy crap!! It's the best ost that Moroi Sakuraba has ever made
Too bad Square for whatever reason decided to not make another Suikoden. This is such a dumb decision they could make so much Money if they make a good one. But looking at what they did with the Star Ocean Series i mean never played the latest entry but The last Hope was for me a disaster it was maybe the right decision. But still a good Suikoden or Star Ocean would make them so much money.
@@susakuzero I would prefer a localization of the port of Suikoden I&II for PSP to unlock Tir and Gremio
@@manydelmal Err, about that, wait until next year. You'll see what I mean if you look it up on your search engine.
Thanks for taking the time to review this! Truly one of my favorite games of all time.
This will forever and always be my favorite JRPG. The goofy voices, the AMAZING soundtrack, the menu systems and item creation, and of course the outstanding combat system itself. The combat looking simple at first glance. But once you change the option to not have to press square to freely move and learn about some of the gimmicks and intricacies of the combat mechanics... The battles evolve and become something truly unbelievable for its time.
And as a fellow Derek, i approve of your impeccable taste for this outstanding and wonderful game.
Star Ocean II was my first real RPG and I don't know if many games have come to the level it hit since. Like I know you raved about private actions in general but there's also scenes during those events that you can miss and add so much to each character. Like Claude dealing with the way Rena and everyone sees him as this legendary hero, when he really knows there's nothing *that* special about his "Sword of Light" - or when Rena runs into Dias and the confusing feelings for everyone involved in that situation. You genuinely get to know and feel for your party as they travel together.
Excellent review Derek! (As always). Thank you.
My first Star Ocean game was Till the End of Time, I remember picking it up and being excited because it was a PS2 game that was on multiple discs! While I was used to this on PS1 I had yet to see it on the PS2. I certainly have fond memories of playing it too and ended up loving the cast of characters and the overall story. Definitely worth checking out, its available as a PS2 classic on ps4 too so easy to play these days!
Mine too. I tried last hope but felt shallow. Going to play it again once I beat 3 on ps4
@@Alexeon SO5 also felt similarly wonky. They tried some cool new things but it ended up feeling overall a bit shallow. Still worth playing through though.
@@Alexeon I'm getting a bit fed up with JRPGS. I seem to not enjoy any of them besides ni no kuni . That was in 2014. Played Octopath, hated it. Playing Lost Odyssey, it's okay but am bored where I'm at and world is dull. So idk if I can even attempt any more. Nothing is epic anymore like on ps1 or even ps2
@@I_Am_The_Social_Reject
Hated octopath??
Ohhh man... yea you really dont like JRPGs.
@@nigelsreptarachnids5931 Seriously? You define liking a genre from that boring game? You really aren't that bright
One of my favourite games.
i realy hope it gets a remaster treatment like the First Story
Would love to play it again
I enjoyed following along your play through of this game on Twitch. I always looked forward to it every week. Great video as always Derek!
I personally adored the third Star Ocean game but didn’t realize the 2nd one was such a beast.
Me, Craig & Smokey: Dayumn
Its in my backlog but I’m scared to start it now.
Don't be scared. Its alot different but in its own good ways. The battle system is a lot simpler... But also at the same time far more complex. Using the gimmicks and nuiances of combat become ESSENTIAL once you get into bonus dungeon after you finish the story. To this day no JRPG has had a more fun and fulfilling game engine in my opinion.
This and Legend of Mana were the very first video games I ever bought as a kid. I literally bought them because I thought the covers were cool and knew nothing else about them. To this day, they hold significant value to me every time I play. Seeing so many others that have loved this game makes me beyond happy. When my step brother and I were kids in the summer, we would play in shifts because we didn't have a memory card and wanted to get as far as possible on the story and revealing all the secrets.
I'm glad that I found your review! I've been thinking of finally playing through this game for the first time, after having it there in my shelf over ten years :)
Sweet video! I always love getting a taste of games like this that I missed out on, and you've done a great job providing a vicarious sampling of what makes this game worthwhile.
Loved the review Derek. Your enthousiasm makes me want to play the game again. Truly a masterpiece.
Man I'm glad you've done a video on this game, I was hunting for PS1 RPGs to add to my classic (mostly using your reviews as a guide) and I stumbled upon this one with no expectation and I was floored within the first hour. Really glad you enjoyed it so much!!!
I played the PSP remake of 2nd story. It is one of my favorite retro rpgs. Beat both the Claud and Rena story.
Easily to this day my favourite game! So glad others feel the same way, I felt this game was under loved!
Love your videos man!
Wonderful review man. This is a series that I missed growing up but am excited to get into now. Just got Till the end of Time for ps2. Thanks brutha. 😎
Great review as always.
Excellent review! I got this game for the PSP not too long ago and can't wait to play it!
OMG! I've been waiting on this one from you for SO LONG. Favorite game of all time. Can't wait to hear what you have to say!
Wow!... What a fantastic review! I had this game back in the day, but quit playing once I realized how huge it was... now I need to track down a copy and give it another go! Nice work👍🏽
Great video! This is my favorite RPG. So many great memories playing it as a kid. It’s been about 9 years since I last played...maybe I’ll order s copy.
This is one of my favorite games ever. The crafting system really is deep, the music is perfect and I love all the drawn background art. And yea, the cheese is strong in this one, lols. ^-^
Where is your pfp from?
@@Walamonga1313 : It's just a screen shot of one of my Skyrim Characters.
Great review. I love this game so much, I’ve been wanting to replay it, but it’s so long and there are so many other games I haven’t played yet.
Your review and SuperDereks review are what lead me to find out about Star Ocean 2. I finished it today and it was fantastic!
Looks like I know what I'm playing next. Thank you!
This was my very first venture into the JRPG genre, and I loved every moment of it! How I miss the PS1 era!
Hands down, my favorite JRPG of ALL-TIME. Nothing will compare to this game. I literally search for a title that matches the thoughtfulness and care that went into this games story and mechanics in vain. Way ahead of its time. Even the later entries in this same series were missing the charm and effect of The Second Story. I don’t even think a remake would be able to capture what this game held. Definitely a classic!
Hope they decide to release Second Evolution to the west. Hopefully if First Departure R does well.
Still hope for a Remaster where you can get all Characters in one Playtrough. This would be amazing.
@@susakuzero you can't get all characters in one playthrough its designed that way. For some characters if you choose one it will lock you out from choosing another. I still remember how I found the guy possessed by two dragons by accident.
Also I'd prefer if they do a remaster of second story instead of second evolution because second evolution is a remake of second story and I heard it cut out some things from the original second story.
Super Derek, you never disappoint. Giving me a review that makes me get excited about a game I already own and have played, but never beaten. I am going to go back into my PSP collection and listen to my still solid 1000 series whir this UMD back to life. Thanks! You and your fans and friends are like family to this old gamer. 100 endings?!! That should be a world record.
Wonderful review! Glad you got to enjoy in my opinion, one of my top 5 RPG's of all time. Star Ocean forever!!
I still have my ps one and this game. Such an underrated game. The voice acting for those moves tho lol. Classic!
I love this game, its sooo good. Play till the end of time! I love that one too
Tony Almodovar - that one is endearing to say the least, it’s a wonderful game
Holy heck. I was streaming this yesterday, and I felt like the only person in the world that had ever played this. I'm overjoyed this was played and is getting exposure.
Have you ever thought about getting a job for a gaming news outlet? Your reviews are a lot better than the ones I see from Ign and other sites. Plus, I don't think JRPGs get the love and attention they deserve from the mainstream gaming news outlet.
Wonderful video. I can't wait for the first departure to hit the PS4 in December.
Ricky Bobby - the main difference as to why Derek’s reviews are top notch; he actually plays these games not just the 1st hour or so
@@DuoBeard And he's passionate, not just ticking boxes and pandering to politics
@@Walamonga1313 this is very true! He’s the one that will make the difference
I’ve been gaming since the NES and SO2: The Second Story is my all time favorite game. I replay through it probably once a year, and haven’t seen everything it has to offer. So glad you enjoyed it!
This game is a huge part of my childhood, it was amazing.
This review has got me amped up to play the Star Ocean First Departure R. December 5 release date. (Elbow nudge, Derek you should see about an affiliate link)
I'm not sure if it was just the time I happened to play it, or if the story really was that well written, but I really loved the lore and the themes of this game when I first played it. The scene where Clik is completely destroyed not only by an earthquake, but then a subsequent tsunami really left me feeling emotionally drained. (Coincidentally, that exact same event happened on the north eastern coast of Japan in 2011).
I also really loved the PA system. This system also exists in the first game, but it's fleshed out far more in this one. In this one your characters can have events with NPCs, as well as other party members instead of the previous title where it was just between party members.
As always, great review!
My friends and I used to trade a copy of this around between us. I always loved it. Hoping Second Story gets a nice switch port as well.
Good ol game collection!
This is definitely one of the best RPGs of all time. While a lot of the 80 endings are fairly minor differences based on which characters like you the best from your choices in the game, very few games can claim what I feel is one of the coolest features, the protagonist choice at the beginning of the game not just being a skin you pick with a few pronouns changed in the dialog. Whether you pick Claude, you're getting a substantially different experience in terms of not only character perspective, because he is from a high tech society, but also story perspective, and that includes both events and characters that only happen because of who Claude is. And Rena is the same way; the story is remarkably different from her perspective, and her past and acquaintances in the world make a difference in what happens to her, and how she reacts to everything going on. And there are so, so many private actions that you can discover in the game's towns that open up new choices. It's really an incredible game that, in combination with the crafting system and extra dungeons you could dump hundreds of hours into and still be finding things you didn't know were there the last time you played. It's well worth playing regardless of the version. I'd love to see the HD updated version of this make its way over here like Star Ocean: First Departure is.
Just bought me a new PS1 with a set of games and this was included. I loved this game and im excited to finally be able to finish it
First time watching one of your videos. The nod to Shadow Hearts Covenant at the beginning was a nice surprise.
Ty this review was so good, plz do more reviews. This game sounds really good ouch I wish it was on switchy,
Will do! :)
So glade you played star ocean the second story. This is easily one of my all time favorite games.
Always been curious about this one. I only ever played Star Ocean: Till The End of Time. Will have to check it out some day. Thanks for the review.
The psp version is better. You should download it and try it out.
@@anamorphicmind Knowing how the rerelease works, did they break areas you can get to for easy grinding? Like the mana drain monsters before the arena fight?
@@anamorphicmind
How do you DL it??
@@nigelsreptarachnids5931 I downloaded the rom for it. You can easily google it.
@@anamorphicmind
Nice. I will definitely look into it further.
This is my favorite series of games. Currently playing first departure for the psp, and about to restart Till The End Of Time. They are amazing!!
Excelent vid!! Love this game.. was my my first action JRPG and i love it!! hope star ocean can come back someday like a game like this!! Everything was awesome ; the music, the gameplay, characters & story.. for me it is a masterpiece
The PS1 was my introduction to JRPG's as a kid. This game was one of the first five that I had played, Great memories and amazing detail and substance. The high point of the series, for sure. Great vid, brother.
Glad to see you reviewing SO2 and seeing your thoughts and opinions. It's a great series which was the foundation for the later SO games.
Btw since you thought the music was pleasant, Motoi Sakuraba was the composer for the SO and valkyrie profile series. He also composed the Dark Souls soundtrack which is why it sounds so great. The more you know!
Yes! The day is here! Now just need to decide if I play this on my ps1 or my psc..
Cellphone. Psp emulator
Glad to hear you praise this game! I don't think the series gets enough positive reception. It's one of my favorites from that console generation.
The Enix bird bosses from the Coliseum still give me nightmares..
Thank you for this great review! Star Ocean 2 was such a huge deal for me as a kid and I held it dearly, even today I grab it to maybe bet on the bunny race or go explore fighing monsters. I was lucky enough to get both psp releases of 1 and 2 as well as a japanese copy of Star Ocean 2 for playstation as a souvenir :)
I love this game so much. I have so many good memories playing it.
One of the best JRPGs of all time, I just wish they hadn't changed the crafting animation in the remaster.
One of my all time favorites. Something cool about crafting counterfeit money to spend and a hotel lease that let's you sleep at any hotel for free.
Love how you begin on a undeveloped planet then eventually end up in space feels like a great sci fi movie
I wept with joy and almost screamed when I learned that this was getting re released. This was the game that converted a Nintendo gal to the world of Sony PlayStation.
I'm currently playing Xenoblade: Chronicles [and loving it!] on the Wii for the first time and I definitely see a few elements in it that they perhaps borrowed from this game.
Definitely has me intrigued to give this one a go sometime in the future!
This is my favorite video game of all time and I don't think that'll ever change. Every playthrough is amazing.
I’ve been wanting to get into the series for awhile... I had no idea how intricate it is...so happy I was able to find the psp version for like 15 bucks
I remember going to Fry's electronics in 98' to buy brave fencer musashi, cause my neighbor owned it and it was awesome. Then i saw star ocean next to it, and it was a gut feeling i got that told me to get it. I'm so glad i did. My brothers were furious when they didn't see the musashi game 😂. But they are so grateful that i chose it, they also love it and its our best childhood memory. I've also never met anyone that has played this game in person. Gamers and even jrpg players are confused when i mention them this game. Its in my top 5 games of all time.
Did you discover that you can mix spells? When Shadow Flare (darkness) and Star Flare (light) get cast at the same time, they cancel each other out and deliver 0 damage.
I remember playing this in 05... first introduced to jrpg
Now I wanna replay this. Easily one of my fav ps1 games.
Damn I can't even remember a jrpg which I still come back like once a year to play again quite like star ocean 2nd story. I consider this as one of the best jrpg ever made.
The remake just got announced!! Omg! It looks beautiful. We just need breath of fire 3 remake with those same graphics.
I played this game back when it was current on the OG Playstation. To this day Celine's voice is burned into my mind. "ENERGY ARROW!"
Wtf this looks super great, why haven't I heard of this😆
Ohhh boy the hype is real! Gonna watch this tonight!
The remake has been announced!!!
Looks incredible!
Good .morning, I hope you guys all have a wonderful and safe day. Please be safe on your way to work and school and all those other fun things, take care and God bless! Peace out everyone! 💚
Such a great RPG! One of my all time Top 5 favourite RPGs
im playing Integrity and faithlessness right now! its kinda kewl that Tri-ace is still going strong!
Tri-Ace isn't really growing strong, 5 was their weakest entry with no soul put into it and they went bankrupt shortly before that game I believe.
@@crowquet56 Seems a mobile-company bought them i 2015, so maybe thats the soul-less part. still im gonna give it a change, its not all bad so far.
MJR pickups video, AND a SuperDerek review today?! #blessed
Great review of a great game. Universe mode is worth a mention.
What is Universe Mode?
@@SuperDerek I know it is old comment but... For the future readers:
Earth, Galaxy, Universe are 3 difficulty settings.
Earth is default one and other 2 are unlocked by filling in Voice Collection (30% and 60% respectively IIRC)