Classical Composer Reacts to Set Controls For The Heart of the Sun (Pink Floyd) | The Daily Doug
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In this episode of #thedailydoug, I'm returning to the music of Pink Floyd with one of their early exploratory soundscape songs, Set Controls For The Herat of the Sun. I recorded this reaction back in late November of 2022 as part of my Fan Favorites series on my Patreon site. I'm happy to release the first time reaction here on CZcams. Enjoy!
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One of my favourite Pink Floyd songs, also love the live version from the 1972 Pompeii concert
The ultimate version imo
The whole Pompeii gig is a must watch!! Nick Mason's stick drop and recovery is a highlight!!
Doug if you want a treat, check out the live version at Pompeii.
Doug should react to all songs (Pompeii concert): masterpiece!
I also was going to add the same comment, but you covered it.
The other tracks on the first side of this double lp , namely Astromine Dominée, Careful with that Axe Eugene and Saucerful of Secrets are simply brilliant recorded live. Original, creative and great musicians. It inspired me then and for the next 50 years. Long live Pink Floyd
👍 agreed 💯
The best versions of those 4 songs there is. Hope he does the whole side,would have been amazing being at the mothers club seeing those songs
Ummagumma live record is my favorite live album of all time ❤
Indeed both of them are important Masterpieces
one of the greatest live albums of all time. And it should be hailed as one of their great masterpieces, imho - if only for representing this fascinating post-Barret period in their music (Pompeii is also awesome)
This was recorded live at Mothers in Birmingham, UK and I was there. Mother's was THE go to venue for all prog rock bands at the time, and was in a carpet warehouse. Unfortunately, it was destroyed a few months later in a fire.
It was an amazing performance and experience and was so good to be released on Ummaguma. These are treasured memories for me.
lucky guy
"That's gorgeous."
Yep!!! After 45 years of listening to this music, I am still only half believing that anybody made music like this. Pink Floyd were way more than the sum of the parts.
My favorite line from this 1968 song is "Witness the man who raves at the wall."
A totally genius song! The version from Live at Pompeii will be my cremation song. Happy times 🤣
I like the Pompeii version best so far, mainly because the vocal is a bit more forward.
The absolute BEST version is the Live From Pompeii video concert, late at night, with herbs.
Well if you’ve got the thyme 😂
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The video from Pompeii 1971 has them perforrming this song.
"The fundamental principle of musique concrète lies in the assemblage of various natural sounds recorded on tape (or, originally, on disks) to produce a montage of sound. During the preparation of such a composition, the sounds selected and recorded may be modified in any way desired-played backward, cut short or extended, subjected to echo-chamber effects, varied in pitch and intensity, and so on. The finished composition thus represents the combination of varied auditory experiences into an artistic unity."
That isn't what Floyd are doing here, all the sounds you can hear are being played in real time using conventional musical instruments played unconventionally - metal objects being rubbed against the guitar strings being the main source for the ethereal sounds on this track as well and Richard Wright's Farfisa organ, all processed with tape echo and or reverb
I still love listening to my old Pink Floyd LP's before they became huge. Piper at the Gates of Dawn, Saucerful of Secrets, Umma Gumma, Meddle, Obscured by Clouds, More...
And at the other end of the scale around the same time Pink Floyd did a really early (almost proto-metal) track
The Nile Song 😉
The Pompeii period is definitely my favorite Floyd era.
Saaaaame 🙏
I have told this before many times on other videos related to Pink Floyd. Considered circumstances of time, technology and society, they are to be paired with Bethoven in terms of influence, relevance, body of work and musical brilliance. Nothing less.
My favorite version of this is their live from Pompeii album/movie. It shows them performing this song live.
It's a stunning track that made me want to travel and adventure as a kid. Here I am still all these years later after quite some time in the Mediterranean. ✌
That was my first listen to this one, too. My friends and I would have driven along rural Kentucky hilly curvy back roads at 10 miles an hour blissfully listening to this if we had known about it then. We did love Atom Heart Mother, Dark Side of the Moon, and many others during some of the best conversations 3 women in their 20's can enjoy. Now we're in our 60's and can't enjoy driving at night. Time......
One of my favorite PF albums. Trailblazer songs like this and the music of Hawkwind, Tangerine Dream, Kraftwerk set the groundwork for today's EDM genre.
From this to EDM you are making a big jump. I don't see it. There is a lot of creativity on PF music, EDM is the opposite.
@@podrunner743 This is just a remix, you can do the same with the Happy Birthday song (I'm sure it exist somewhere) but that has nothing to do do with what I'm saying, maybe just proving my point. No creativity in EDM.
I wonder if Doug would like NEU! or CAN?
@@daveapple205 I'm sure he'd at least find it engaging and interesting. It'd be cool if he also tried some post-punk, like something off Metal Box by PiL, for instance (heavily influenced by krautrock).
@@daveapple205 Or Cluster or Amon Duul II maybe?
My favorite song by Pink Floyd ever!
Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy author Douglas Adams was friends with the band and in one of the Earls Court gigs (not this one sadly), played guitar with them on stage on his 42nd birthday (a number important to HHG fans). He altered the final episode of S1 HHG to have the team steal a black, frictionless spaceship destined to plunge into a star as part of the light show by the intergalactic rock band 'Disaster Area' who are, apparently, based on PF who were breaking up at the time...this track no doubt inspired the re-write.
Love what Doug says about musique concrete and how he prefers Pink Floyd's version to what they teach in music school.
this whole album is such a musical journey, but these live cuts are something else. Such a great tune and thanks for the vid!
I saw Nick Masson last October in Montreal and he finished his first set with this song. Great song, great show! You have to watch the film Pink Floyd at Pompeii!
There's a version from their performance for KQED in San Francisco from the AHM tour that was very hard to find until a few years ago. The version of this song is among the best parts of the show.
Nick Mason is criminally under rated.
🤘🧙♂️🤘
Rich the Ancient Metal Beast
Ron Magers' Electric Impressions played this on TV at least once back in the day.
That version you're talking about, did that come with the Early Years box set that covered AHM? If so, I have that. AHM in 4.0 on blu-ray sounds great. I listened to that while tripping and it was amazing.
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@Scorpius Balthazar I think so. The rights were tied up for a long time, but settled for a boxed set (I believe the one you referenced).
The footage was shot at the Warfield in SF the night before the band played there. Some spare aerial footage from a plane flying low over some fields was superimposed over part of AHM.
I had this show in VHS for a long time. It was my window into that era of their live performance.
Grandmaster Meadows, Cymbaline and Green is the Color are all fantastic from this set.
🤘🧙♂️🤘
The original studio version of 'A saucerful of secrets' piece is a must in this field
This is much better
Take Up Thy Stethoscope And Walk
It's a beautiful mess
I like the version where David Gilmour is singing the Celestial Voices bit. There was one titled exactly that, I forget where from, and then there is the Live in Pompeii version.
This one is superior in every way
Love it when Doug does Floyd, Camel n Genesis, the GOATS.
Purchased this double album when it came out. Many a night with the lights out and 'Set The Controls ...' at max volume. Thanks for your reaction/assessment video, Doug. Of all the prog-rock bands that I heard back in the day, I never heard 'The Floyd' live in concert. Yes, this along with 'Astronomy Domine', 'Careful With That Axe, Eugene' and 'A Saucerful Of Secrets' were all live tracks. The second disc were studio tracks ... one each by the band members.
Sid does not play on this album at all. But, he did play on the studio track (along with parts by Gilmour) for this song, which appeared on 'A Saucerful of Secrets' album. The album's title supposedly comes from Cambridge slang for sex.
This is the very track that lead me from the path of the NPC Normies and off into the progressive marches of music back in early 1970.
It was an English Literature class at senior school. A student teacher asked us to sit down quietly and listen to this track so that we could write about our reaction/feelings to it.
I knew once I'd heard this that this was the direction in which I wanted to travel. And 53 years later, it's taken me into regions that I could never imagine.
I prefer the live version (on UmmaGumma) to the studio version. I bought A Saucerful of Secrets soon afterwards.
I love this song. It's so profound, sends you in a trip... Right to the heart of the Sun!
Again, thanks Doug. Proud to support your efforts.
Thanks so much!
Pink Floyd with Syd was certainly interesting and his radio friendly singles helped to get them played on the radio in the UK, plus labels at that time allowed bands to take their time and blossom.. Especially Harvest. Roy Harper being a shining example. I'm not quite so sure about the early stuffs popularity in the US... BUT, they wouldn't really have gone anywhere and would have been one of the lost bands if it wasn't for the input and musical directorship eventually of David Gilmour. Our years of listening back in the sixties and seventies promoted an appreciation of an artists complete catalogue so that if you came in on Pink Floyd like I did at Ummagumma then I went and got all the albums before that over a period of time. So you appeciatd how they had grown. Keep on Rocking.
The studio version (this one) is from A Saucerful of Secrets (1968). Here's the image of the front cover.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Saucerful_of_Secrets
Doug, this was previous to Dark Side & less commercially sounding. Glad they never went full commercial.
P.F. is just beautifully wonderful. One thing that they have always brought to us is that they draw us in so that we have to listen to each facet of their music. They make us listen to the music so intently.
I forgot how much I love this song.
It’s been around 25 years.
Thanks for posting.
Its been around well over double that my friend....
@@cornfedjuggalo I think he's saying it's been about 25 years since he last heard this song
@@MakoyUnggoy Ahhh, Ok....
...Roger's live version from "In the Flesh" is also very good.
One of my favorite Floyd songs. Thanks for the video.
Yet another movie live is such a gem from Pink Floyd, such an underated song 🤘
I hear this One 2 times LIVE on 2016 with Waters live on México City, one night on the FREE CONCERT on the Zocalo in México City, over 300, 000 hilarius and HIGH fans! jajaja... you need to react to this show...is on youtube!
OSI - Set the controls for the heart of the sun
is a fantastic cover
one of my favourites
Set THE Controls
Definitely got the forbidden planet vibes nobody does music like this that's what makes pink floyd so unique
And all of you small animals, the wind DOES cry Mary.
Remember that the central section of this track that audiences heard live was sent to them in full surround sound. The album track cannot reproduce that experience.
Gregorian chant with an African drum beat.
Syd did not play on this live version from 1969 but, allegedly, did on the album version from Saucerful of Secrets.
Doug you are spot on with the nuances of this album. If like me you have followed them from the beginning you would know the importance of this album. It’s utterly brilliant and follows their early Live stuff.
Mason plays with mallets, he also finally plays the gong with his recent band GREAT SHOW, if you can catch it.
This is definitely the version from Ummagumma (I have been listening to both versions for over fifty years). Gilmore and Barret both play guitar together only once on Jugland Blues from Saucerful of Secrets.
Love the song, conveys mysticism at its finest. I heard over the years the lyrics were based on ancient Chinese poetry.
Little by little the night turns around...I saw them do this at the Warehouse in New Orleans in 1970. The Allman Bros opened.
Until you see live footage of this you would never know that Roger is on the gong and vocals and doesn’t play bass until after the interlude. Before the interlude the main riff is played by Dave on guitar.
Thank you, Doug, just, loved hearing early Floyd.
Saw Nick Mason’s Saucerful of Secrets tour last year where they played this (perfectly). Nick said he was so happy that he finally got the gong mallet out of Roger Waters’ hands. 😂 Having said that, I’m afraid most of the early psychedelic Floyd does nothing for me personally. Flame away, my shields are up!
I saw Nick when he was in toronto. I had mazing seats in the balcony where the sound was as clear as listening through headphones. The concert was a time machine when Floyd were starving artists. I felt like I was in the underground club in London listening to 20 something geniuses discovering their sleeping genius.
De gustibus …
Saw Nick 2022 in Munich. It was great.
~ Nothing to flame about, you either like it or you don't.
The first two albums with syd are trash.
Great reaction Doug, as usual. Pink Floyd is timeless.
It's a love song
Hands down best version of this song is the version from Live from Pompeii film!
Doug, you need to listen to another version of this, Live San Diego 1971 October 17th.
Ahhh sweet, my fave song along with Remember a Day...
Bongs at the ready.
I can put Planet Caravan by Black Sabbath and this tune( one of my favorite Pink Floyd tunes ) on repeat, the 2 tunes complement each others in my opinion.
My all time favorite Pink Floyd song.
it's a metaphor like so much of their other music. like "Careful with that axe Eugene" Axe being a play on the slang term for a guitar.
Saw them @ the carousel in '69. The Umagumma tour. Mind blowing to a high school kid. I saw the next 3 times they came to S.F.
You need to see the "live' recording off the Pompeii recordings...You'll see he does change the pattern of drumming ...
This reminds me of Indonesian Degung music.
Thank You, Thank Pink Floyd , Thank these Time, Thank World, Thank Me, Thank my Ears, Thank my Brain, Thank Universe.
The 'gorgeous' bit with the high Major 3rd is Rick's improvised part--again a basic RW piece but without the additions of the other players it's a different composition altogether.
No Syd involved in this live version from Ummagumma.
You might also find interesting the title track of 'A Saucerful of Secrets' as one of those definitive 1968 progadelic suite pieces that defined the genre, the others being Procul Harum's 'In Held Twas In I', Hendrix's side 3 of Electric Ladyland: 'Rainy day...'segues into '1983 A Merman I Should Turn To Be'...into 'Moon Turn The Tides Gently Gently Away' and then a reprise of 'Merman'. And The Nice's 'Ars Longa Vita Brevis'.
Watch live in pompei a concert without an audience nick is incandescent
Haven't heard much of the older Pink Floyd stuff, was thinking that damn this is one long intro until i realized it was the actual song.
Sounds of the film the forbidden planet definitely
Tyvm indeed🙏, the old floydians cut a door to your soul where ever you hide, in the middle east, they'll find Sindbad with the lamp in the desert^^
Over the mountain watching the watcher
Breaking the darkness waking the grapevine
One inch of love is one inch of shadow
Love is the shadow that ripens the wine
Set the controls for the heart of the sun😍
DOUG NATION
PF is and always has been musical alchemists, and out of that vortex of music arrives their most successful and interesting soundscapes - like threads of gold. My favourite is Meddle.
In the background one of the most important and best life recordings on vinyl.
DeepPurple Made in Japan
Lazy is one of the must listen and review songs from that album.
Yes…this is from the live portion of Ummagumma.
Doug, have you listened to anything from the album Obscured by Clouds?
The band were producing soundtracks at the time, this album features on the French film La Vallee.
I think you would find it interesting as a score writer yourself. You will recognise the odd chord progressions you heard on Atom Heart Mother.
I would recommend either Burning Bridges or Mudmen.
When "Saucer Full of Secrets" came out and I heard this, I had never smoked weed or understood meditation but all of sudden ... I got it! Very nice to put headphones on to this day and float down stream ...
On a trip to Paris and London in 1978, the Air France flights between LAX and Europe featured Ummagumma on one of the music channels...and you bet I had those earphones in the whole way in each direction!
Now, you can’t even find Floyd on an airline’s playlist, so you have to bring your own cuts and it’s such cool flying music.
I'd forgotten just how good this is.
My wife and I saw them bout 30times and I have all of their music
Your story @ 9:55 very funny...!
Doug, really need to take a listen to Billy Cobham's "Sea of Tranquility". The man beats those drums like they owe him money...!
I saw the Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking tour w Clapton. As I recall, Clapton only appeared on the first handful of dates. Pretty damn special
These are amazing tracks on the live sides. Sounds like Nick was in the jelly jungle of orange marmalade (incidentally, a song by The Lemon Pipers) with that mesmerizing and awesome drum rhythm. Because the audience sounds are not there, it sounds like it was performed in the studio, though I don't think it was. The bootleg version from San Diego, Golden Hall 17 Oct 1971 (part of their first US tour after the release of Meddle) is one of the best out there and Gilmour's guitar is even more psychedelic, it's probably my recommended favorite version. Sound quality is not bad for a bootleg recording and the rest of the tracks are just as good. Meddle was a transition point for Floyd especially with Echoes which was included in the tour. There were some big performances from late '71 onwards.
I couldn't agree more about the San Diego show specifically and the string of live shows from 1971. That's where it all came together, imo. The live bootlegs illustrate something altogether greater than even the 1970 live performances. It's like they became a single entity at that point rather than four musicians playing together.
Do yourself a favor and watch/listen to Live at Pompei! All your favorites with an added kick!
PF's period with Sid is the most interesting, keep on digging into the past....
LOL, glad you said that, back in school in music as a young punk who was also into kraftwerk and tangerine dream, I refused to do the classical stuff we were given, Sibelius etc. So i had to write essays on punk and Kraftwerk etc instead.
Well know fact every Pink Floyd concert ends with a spaceship crashing into the sun.
You should really check out Hawkwind's "You Shouldn't Do That" some time from the "In Search of Space" album from 1971, but make sure & enjoy some herb while doing so for the full experience. Acid was the ultimate back in the day, but herb would do just fine. It's really a mind twister!
I concur (or Earth Calling/Born to Go, either would be good)
@@elvwood I saw them live in 1974. It was an outta body experience to say the least.
@@hippydippy I'm jealous! I didn't see them until the 80s, still great I thought, but people kept telling me how special those early years were...
@@elvwood I was in the 3rd row, dead center while tripping on Purple Haze. Nik Turner came floating down from the balcony with his lizard costume on that was glowing in the black lights they had. At the same time you could feel the floor shaking under your feet from Lemmy's bass droning away. Some people tripping were actually running out of the place it was so intense. It was Insane! The show was right after the Chicago show released later called "The 1999 Party", so that was pretty much the same show I saw. I was thrilled when it was released because the beginning of the show is about all I remembered except the start. It was one long strange trip to say the least. BTW... MAN opened the show.
this is a piece written during the Syd Barret era and recorded for their second album Saucerful of secrets. It really shows how different Syd wrote songs. They already performed this one live back in 1967.
The same album Saucerful of secrets also includes Jugband Blues by Syd Barret which is probably his most heartwrenching track. You can clearly hear that he knows what's going on and that he has to leave the band soon.
The music video for Jugband Blues also was lost for 30 years before it was found in some storage.
anyway, Ummagumma has a live cd and the studio cd, with every member writing one song on their own with more or less success.
That said, I really hope you will react to the whole Piper at the gates of dawn album some day, it's probably my favourite Pink Floyd album. The way the lyrics are so childish and creative and Syds guitar playing is so unconventional and sounds like modern music at times is just amazing.
Or just do Interstellar Overdrive, their magnum opus from that album. Just make sure to listen to the mono version of it, since they didn't spend much time mixing the stereo version. Also the stereo version is missing the organ from the intro.
The song has aspects of Judo/Christianity
The man raving at the wall making the shape of his question to heaven is the davining the Jews talk to the wall and fold slips of paper and put them in the wall
Over the hill watching the watchers
Is a reference to the fallen angels
The grapevine awakening is the messiahs people awakening
Idk there’s a lot to unpack in that masterpiece
Won't to hear such heart felt comment s
Set the controls...by Live at Pompeii 🔝🔝🔝
Doug, it's time to go look at Syd's contribution to Floyd.
You need to listen to interstellar overdrive, astronomy domino, Bike, and his final recording with Floyd, Jugband Blues.
You will not be disappointed.
Ummagummas such a good album
I love this version of the track. The studio version is good, but this leaves it for dead. I love how the band almost dip into Tangerine Dream territory halfway through. Still leaves me wondering how this was played live like this.
This was released in 1969. Tangerine Dream's first album was released 1970. But I get what you mean.
@@errinundra9798 yeah, I heard early Floyd was a huge inspiration for such albums as Zeit (I think you can definitely hear it)
I would like to hear more from our host regarding the artistic decision for Nick to use mallets instead of sticks on this song.
For many years, I thought the title/lyric was "Set, the controls for the Heart of the Sun"
Why would the Egyptian god of War and Chaos be manning the controls of a stellar furnace?
"Must be 'high poetic-art' that plebes like me aren't fit to fathom."
Everything changed the day I wore my prescription glasses instead of the reading glasses I found in the laundry room.
The things you learn when you don't have to have to guess 1/2 the letters on the page...
This is Classical music