The Honda Hornet vs The Yamaha Fazer Review
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- čas přidán 6. 08. 2024
- Join Paul Johnston as he test drives and reviews two fantastic second hand bikes - the Honda Hornet and Yamaha Fazer - looking closely at performance, design, and value for money.
[This clip is from Two Wheels Season 4, Ep. 15, originally aired 30/04/2000. The full episode can be watched here: • Two Wheels: Season 4, ... ]
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I don't know about you guys, but when I first set my eyes on the CB600F Hornet, I fell in love instantly. I for one think it's one of the best looking bikes on this planet. I own one too. Hoping to switch onto the CB900 Hornet soon, those twin high rise exhausts are just...beautiful...
I bought a 900 last year and love it, everyone who owns one says the same. When it came out the press called it boring? In reality it's a stunning road bike, and the build quality is excellent.
I own a 600, but the looks are okay at best in my opinion. I fell in love as soon as I got past 8000 rpm
Can't agree more strongly. I have the CB600F-6 and it's a very proud looking machine. Vibrates at about 5500 but then it is a straight 4. Perhaps a carb sync is required. Having that CB600 made me go out and get 2 CB900F-5s (why 2? - as pointed out to me, the prices were most reasonable and with each less than 3k miles, I'd have been silly not to have got the second!) Again, Honda have made the 2 best looking machines. Why they stopped producing them (pre '07 design) is beyond me.
Instablaster
I hate that Honda never brought the 250cc Hornet outside of Asia. Not everyone needs a 600cc, the 250cc Hornet wouldn't been a huge success in Europe
Him in 2000s: why there is no main stand? Ew
2020: what is a main stand?
I got myself a used fazer two years ago now, and it's quite the catch : never failed to start even when riding through winter (and sleeping outside), despite the "disco" looks on the front side, it's a pretty amazing bike, and I was able to have some fun at red lights with bigger/newer bikes ;)
obrigado
whots it like on the juice Canada Bob ?
I'm an R1 rider, got an old '98 Fazer with 40k on it as a winter hack last year. Very impressed with it, you can feel the headbanger Yamaha DNA in it, for a glorified commuter it has a lot of soul. And I'm right with him about the centre stand on the Hornet ; I owned a CBR 6 in the 90's and all my mates used to take the piss out of me with my 'sports tourer' CBR6 with its centre stand.
Great video even after so many years 👍🏽
Fazer looks good, but speaking of reliability, I'd go for the Honda.
very usefull cheers !!!!
I'm having such a hard time with this choice. Full license next month, I already have a Hornet but I've always dreamed of a FZR and keep seeing them at amazing prices. Feeling like I might wind up settling on having both but if anyone's got an outright yes or no answer for me that would be sound! I did think the Fazer was meant to have a slightly lower seat height than the Hornet though
The volvo 340 in the background was pretty sweet too 😂👌
I know right😂
As you can see from my profile pic i used to have a '98' 600 Hornet.
Only performance mods i did was a full Arrow system and a retune of the carbs.
Oh and a gold metalfake topped Jordan 'Buzzin Hornets' paint job😎
It would easily keep up with 600 sports bikes to about 120mph from the lights. Could never get past them, but easy within spitting distance. I used to ride out with half a dozen guys every week and they were all shocked how quick it was for a naked.
Rode it daily for 3 years and raced many other bikes. Pissed all over a fazer (i knew the guy and he challenged my to a race lol)
Definately would do more than 120mph!
I was chasing the lads from Windsor to Portsmouth and maxed it at 155 on the clock (so probably closer to 140/5) Was seriously hard work though and couldn't stay there for more than a few minutes as i would have been peeled off it🤣🤣
nice one 👍👍👍
It DOES have a fuel warning lamp as well. It glows orange when you are getting low. You cant see it in these camera shots. Also, I worked as a courier for 2 years on one of these and 135mph on the honda not alot of hard work (but it isnt pleasant either) and certainly 80 is no hassle. get a grip mate.
The orange lamp is the engine oil temperature warning light
Hornet for me every time, I prefer the styling however the lack of a fuel gauge is criminal.
yeah ive got a hornet s and i have to keep an eye on the trip counter all the time, no fuel gauge makes me paranoid .
@@monkeydust100 I really don't know why manufacturers don't fit them to absolutely every bike.
And the tank is really quite small. Love my hornet to bits flies on 1 wheel lovely
@@ericgeorge5483 Hornet was dessigned to be the lightest bike ever made, and Honda did it ( 172 kg ) That´s why no electronic fuel gauge and other useless stuff.
2005/2006 have a fuel gauge.
A question about the exhaust for any owners/previous owners: Does the height of the exhaust affect the pillion? As in can they burn their legs/trousers if not seated properly? It looks as if their legs would be touching it.
+CptFriggerJizz My Hornet has the stock exhaust and the pillion's leg can touch it easily (to tell you the truth, the leg/trousers will always be very near/next to that section). But the stock exhaust has a "huge" outter protector / heat shield thingy bit, therefore it won't get very hot. IMHO it wont burn the pillions legs / trousers.
What is the case with an aftermarket exhaust? I am not sure - I think that must be a different story.
+CptFriggerJizz You can touch the protector without gloves even when the engine is reasonably warm ;)
I got the bike. Didn't like how quiet it was so got a new exhaust. Doesn't have protectors but doesn't get too warm
Danmoto GP. Cheapest ones you can get but they are pretty decent quality and give it a nice volume and bass boost. Check out my channel. I did a before, during and after video of changing the exhaust :)
Good choice. But if it's anything like the 900 you'll be wanting a new exhaust. Especially since the 600 only has the one can. Dangerously quiet Imo
Hey. Its really funny property scene What's your opinion about that
2:43 so hornet does wheelie but not the Fazer ? I have a Fazer too but i can't get it up, only one the 1st gear but still very difficult
The fazer does wheelie...in fact I find it to be a very easy and smooth stunt bike. Had one for just over a year. I did second gear clutch ups.
You can wheelie a fazer but the chap above doing second gear clutch ups might have more experience and changed gearing because to clutch mine up in second you need a lot of revs and the speed it comes up the back brake is a bit spongy for preventing you 12 o’clocking it
there's a wheelie school in uk using fazers lol
Your motorcycle is amazing,I was satisfied,I also sent LIKE👍 I know, We are HONDA lover
What the best YAMAHA 1300 XJR & HONDA CB 1300 ?
Yeah, the Fazer is a better bike.
I also hate bikes without a fuel gage. At the least we want a warning light.
Yamaha has 4" shorter wheel base, it is for short guys. I had 06 FZ1 and 03 Hornet 919 (CB900F). My Honda has fuel level light.
I have a 2002 cb900 hornet with a power commander , I love it so far ,only have it a week
Plenty of grunt
We never had the Thundercat in Canada.
I have 3 Fazer 600s, rode the hornet and is great bike but if you do allot of miles the Fazer is way better, more comfortable, better mpg and easier maintenance
I have owned and rode several Hornet and Fazer 600s in my line of work and you can't go wrong with either bike. The Hornet has amazing handling has next to no midrange is very tough reliable in general, the main down side is it is a pretty poor tourer as the tank range is poor and a touch buzzy. The Fazer is in my opinion a little better in terms of all round ability the engine feels like a bigger motor than a 600 has great midrange and feel great touring bike but is let down by poor headlight, expensive parts like battery, plugs and the build quality is not great the exhausts in particular.
+james grocott I know right ? Tell me about the exhaust collectors ... But other than that, very nice bike, despite the funky looks !
480p, the nostalgia 😐
was put off bying the hornet by the exaust , feared someone would burn theirself on it
Nope... well insulated and even with an aftermarket, there is not much real heat there. OEM are shielded.
comparing the Hornet to the Fazer...what a sacrilege !
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Yamaha fazer all the way.
I have a fazer 600 with a lowered seat and a double bubble screen and 110 mph is no problem. Plus it looks much better than the hornet. 😁
Oh no.... FZ is definitly not better looking! 😁
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Ahhhhh quit complaining about the fuel valve i ride a 1979 honda cx500 deluxe ive never had a problem with no low fuel light and messing with the fuel valve you get used to it the first 2 to 300 miles
Fuel valve .??? .
Fazer far superior
Until you reach the curves
Wind in your face and shoulders 😂😂😂 a bad thing??
For a while it is Ok, but 2 hours at a 100 mph and I am tired and deaf because of the loud wind noise. I have the Fazer 600 and need to put on some earplugs, live in the desert of North Mexico so you can go some distance without anything around.
Riding many hours in the highway at high speed without windscreen, I would rather not do it.
I'm 1.86 m tall, will i look funny on Fazer 600? I mean, will the bike look like a toy compared to me? I won't look ridiculous and absurd with my height on it?
+WannaFastWin No, my friend has one.. It's a pretty big machine
+WannaFastWin not at all !! Im 1.83 and i would like to have coupel cm more so it will be good....it a big bike ;)
+WannaFastWin i'm 1.94 and feel just fine on it
Hmm I’m 72-73 “ tall! I get headaches trying to guess peoples’ height in metric 😲🤔🤠😂😉 bahahahah!
But I like how the CB 900 looks!
How much do they weigh?
Smug
The honda hornet there DOES have a fuel gauge, you can see it at 04:57 in the rev counter window bottom left. are you guys thick?
That's the Engine temperature boy
The Fazer is a saggy baggy bouncy pile of poo now.
A bit like my ZZR 600 but it is a very fast, saggy, baggy, bouncy pile of poo and will still blow off a Hornet or Fazer or even the CBR on a straight.
I've ridden both bikes on track and the Fazer is the better bike on the limit. It will ground everything out and move about a fair bit but it never becomes alarming and is quite predictable. In contrast, the Hornet is much more stable but the front end often feels like it is about to tuck, mid-turn. They are very different bikes but both excellent, in their own way.
@@AnEssentialQuality Which year Hornet? I can see the '98/'99 being a little more aggressive in the turns, but the 2000->2004 should be better with 17" wheel, and the 2005/2006 having a little better rebound with their progressive USDs.
@@N269 Both bikes were 2001 models.
They both look absolutely crap with black wheels on, ok on a wheelbarrow or lawnmower but not cars or bikes, only imho oc course. Those modern exhausts look crap too imho, really showing my age now but bikes of 70's 80's were much smarter .