American Reacts to Current News in Norway | #23
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As an American I don't get to hear about the news in Norway from the American news media, so today I am very excited to take a look at this weeks current events and news stories happening in Norway right now. If you enjoyed the video feel free to leave a comment, like, or subscribe for more!
We have, sadly, had a lot of murder/suicide cases here in Norway the past months.
Sad, but still very low in the global context. But we should expect to see more violence as we progress towards the concept that money is dignity. Men as a group become dangerous when dignity is taken. It doesn't mean that all men become dangerous if they lose their money, but statistically, they do. It's one of the reasons why mental illness gives free dental care, because we don't want the mental illness to cause a permanent condition by bad teeth.
As a Norwegian, it is incredibly shocking. Make one wounder if there is something beneath it all. Serial unaliver, or some even darker underlying issues with our system. It's been quite some time since Norwegians last felt a sence of fear of random murder. However, most of theese cases are all domestic, which is statistically more likely than random unalivings. Abseloutly horrible.
i knew one of those who were killed in Torpo, and it all came as a shock, it seemed like the perfect family. I think the majority of those who knew the family don't quite know what they think of the situation other than that it is tragic💔🥀
Many people are in trouble these days because of inflation and expences rising.
I think you are touching something there.
It’s over 20 people murdered this year in Norway, or from 2024. It’s crazy!
Cheers from Norway 🇳🇴
The murder rate in Norway is about 1/10 of in the USA (0.6 vs 6.4 pr 100.000 citizens). It happens rarely enough to actually make the national news when it happens.
Edit: in raw numbers: about 40 people are killed every year in norway. In the US it is about 26000, so about 70 pr day.
It's been a lot since January sadly
@@Xirque666 Yes but 'a lot' is a relative term. We are still below the Nordic average, which is below the European average. It's the trend that matters and it goes up and down from one year to the other. Murderers don't have a council that spreads it out evenly. If we have above average this year, we should expect to see below average next year. But hard economics does cause murder and suicide. In 2008, almost half of all stock owners lived in Bærum, so when the market crashed, there was a massive wave of suicides in Bærum. That is expected.
A lot of people struggle with mental health in Norway and the government has not done anything to ensure enough treatment and help is available. This has been a crisis for many years and is getting worse. Also now, more drugs flowing into the country and harder times in general. Add to the mix the winter time with little sunlight and more depression. Of course this is not normal, but we have other things too, like farmes with mental problems where animals suffer due to neglect etc. I am speaking in general now, not about this sad case in Ål.
The murder suicides might have something to do with the recent economic conditions...
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I think it has more to do with inflation and changing economic conditions...
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It's not outright their fault, but they sure as heck aren't helping.
We're getting multiple effects combining lowering the value of the NOK.
Some of them are completely outside of our control.
Some our government genuinely could have done something about, but instead they're doing pretty much the opposite.
Not without reason, mind you.
But still, their actions are having consequences, and worsening an already bad situation.
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And of course a perceived decrease in stability and safety isn't exactly helping the economy either...
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Your Norwegian here was flawless.
Thank you. :-)
In the UK at the moment there has been a spate of people committing suicide by drowning themselves in rivers. Very sad, but it's like people get the idea from previous news items about the same thing, then sadly decide to do it as well.
Your pronunciation is getting good, Tyler!
One has to assume that copycat incidents happen because the perpetrators had similar mental states and when they then get the idea for murder-suicide from another incident from news. That idea can fester in a mind with similar issues as a possible release from their issues, triggering strings of similar incidents.
This is just heartbreaking 💔 but in some of cases like this, there’s been talked about depression throughout the wintertime, but it’s not easy to find out anything when they’re all dead and honestly, we don’t often talk enough about depression and things like this.
As an Oslonian (who also has "travelled far and wide") and "ethnic Norwegian" I have no problems with other mini-cultures or minorities, as long as they use common sense;
There's no crosses around in the streets during Christian holidays, there's no reason to have crescents around during Ramadan. That doesn't mean you can't celebrate your culture or religion. Just relax on the iconolatry or iconophilia lol. (Edit: That is tied to personal beliefs/religion/political groupings/can be "used"/zealous)
To be honest I have no idea what the article is about. But I know my city well...
Much of what happens in Norway these days must be blamed on current and former governments. For the past three decades, the state has closed down hospitals for those struggling with mental health, and when the corona came, it didn't get any better. And since then, most things have become much more expensive, so many are struggling financially. And it is now having tragic repercussions. As you read, it is on top of bad finances, a lot of discussions about money in many homes, people don't know how to get their bills paid, the couple's relationship is struggling, they may be struggling mentally from before, there will also be disharmony in the family for perhaps some believes the children must help more financially, such as taking on a part-time job. And it is perhaps difficult for the young people, because they have school next door and think they themselves do not have time to do their homework. But there are probably many reasons, this is just one example of why it can go so badly for some families.
It's not normal at all. So terrible ❤ The world is changing... and not for the better i'm afraid ❤
This is the 3 murder suicide in a short amount of time. I think. Family tragedys. It often happens around Christmas, new years eve, around that time, when its dark and cold.
This has nothing to do with darkness and cold. Most of us live well under both darkness and cold.
@@steinarhaugen7617 most of us, not everyone. And I Said around Christmas and new years eve and thats a fact.
@@steinarhaugen7617 Most smokers don't get cancer. To say therefore that smoking does not cause cancer, is stupid. A certain percentage of men do become violent when their self-worth is taken from them and Yule does that on a massive scale. I absolutely hate what Yule has become and I don't want any part of it. For almost a decade now, I've rejected the traditional Yule in favor of Alternative Yule in Oslo. In my opinion, it's the only way to do Yule. The only thing I would change is to make it last the entire Yule rather than just 60 hours.
There's been a lot of murder-suicides lately over here, for some reason.
I think there is done a study on that specific crimes and tragedies comes in waves
Hi! I wish i could learn you to talk norwegian. Anyway,its interesting to listen to you. You should visit our country. I have been in US many times. As you know, many norwegians emigrate years back. Look into,Stavanger, Pulpit rock, also to Skudeneshavn . You will like it.Greetings from Sandnes.
In February a father killed his 2 adult daughters and his 1 year old grandchild and then killed himself. This new incident is a husband killing his wife and his two young adult children before commiting suicide. These incidents happened at different places.
2024 stared as a Murder year here in Norway. Several brutal cases around in Norway. Dark side of Norway.
Coincidences. Anyone with common sense understands that.
Yes, its been many murders in the beginning of this year, but its not the first time . Theres is also a lot more suicides in the dark winter than our long summedays.
@@steinarhaugen7617 In nature nothing exists alone. Everything that happens or changes can have an impact on anything else.
Your attitude does nothing to help figure out why this happens and how to prevent it happening again.
secund time this year
Your Picture of Norway are changed now.
8:03 if you kept reading the father also killing himself it said
Vikings Reborn
It's probably the prison system. Everybody want to go to jail.
I think it is because of depression, and do not want the family to be that... depressed....
blud i was on one of the mountains near the town where the murder/suicide happened on vacation
I am not trying to be funny or something but i think it depends on the family's back story... what instigated the reaction to do it ... instead of passing blame and such but deeper story what happened in the family aka family secrets, and what is true and what is just speculation based of people close to them favoritism or something to who people believe, for example if a person who his or her entire life was badly treated by family members and ignored, then that may or may not have triggered something in someone then later after the crime they are suffocating in guilt to where they then kill themselvs after as an example...
me idk what truly happen, the whole thing is devastating and depressing, even seasonal depression can inflict suicide and I think if the shock is to much cause of then it basically spreads like a plague cause of deep inside family may still love eachother and they regretting everything and dont know what to do in the moment cause they are like " omg no wtf did I do" when "waking up" from deep pain or anger outbursts similar to like something were to possess them. :( it's kinda tough for me reading and writing this cause of .... nightmares of suicide I had growing up... long story ... sigh :/
Hytte demand: The economy is bad, people can't afford it anymore.
Christians in Norway have for many years been pressured into invisibility in society. Christmas and Easter celebrations in public usually have a non-religious feel. The closest you get are nativity scenes that are set up for Christmas some places.
This year, Ramadan fell at the same time as Easter, and Easter in particular has for many years been pushed into church buildings, and to such an extent that most Norwegians find it unnatural for someone to preach in the streets. Nevertheless, the capital finds it appropriate to put up Islamic symbols in the middle of the most important Christian holiday in a country that has been Christian for 1,000 years.
After massive pressure for several decades, the Christians have accepted that religion is a private matter. At the same time, Islam requires public space, whether it is missionary work in the streets, public prayer, arranging for prayer in workplaces, taxis that stop with passengers in the car because the driver has decided that it is prayer time. While the passengers wait in the car, he goes out and lies down to pray in the street. There is never any attention paid to any religion other than Islam on TV and radio, with the exception of the traditional Sunday morning service, which amazingly is still broadcast. Broadcasts in connection with Christmas and Easter have taken on an increasingly secular content, and not infrequently Islam is pushed into one form or another in connection with Christian broadcasts.
You rarely see other Christian symbols in public in Norway than crosses on church buildings. Some even react to the cross in the flag, and believe that it should be replaced. We are simply fed up with this petting of a violent religion from the Middle East.
I think you are a little narrow minded. The vast majority of Muslims are peaceful human beings. To display Islamic symbols are a way to make Muslims feel at home in our country. If they feel validated, we will function better as a society. That’s what we want. The famous Kings speech has taught us that. Easter isn’t about Christianity anymore, and hasn’t been for a long time. It’s about Kvikk lunsj and Easter eggs. Norwegians has been a secular people for a long time.
Religious freedom means people are allowed to believe in what they themselves want to believe in. Christians are not one group either. Most Norwegians regard themselves as Christians, but the majority of them are also very inclusive Christians. Anything from divorce and remarriage, female clergy, gays and lesbians, most Christians in Norway today fully accept. They also recognize other believers right to exercise their believes, and therefore not only Christian history and Christian dogma should be thought in schools, but knowledge provided by other religions too. If you want to you could place as many Christian symbols as you like in, or outside, your own home. And in your shop or similar too, if you have one. But please don't blame Muslims because most Norwegians have a different perception of Christian values than yourself. The fact many Norwegians have a more liberal interpretation of the Bible is mainly because the former traditional Christian values were outdated. Anyone who has read the Bible will know that it hasn't got a single reference to abortion, and only twice address homosexuality specifically. Jesus, God's own son funnily never addresses the subject, what he do warn about, however, is the pharisees and the learned of the scriptures - not strange, really, since it was them who plotted to get him killed. But Jesus not finding the topic worthy of address, it raises questions to why so many conservative Christians are so focused on that issue. Especially in light of scientific discoveries having discovered physiological differences between both the brains, mannerisms and pitch of voice between gay and straight males. Sexuality is not a chosen preference, but biologically controlled desires society has muddled by trying to squeeze all types of people into one of two roles to play: male or female. And as a result of adapting to these two roles all kinds of weird pervertions, abuse and misconduct have evolved. Why? Could it be because marriage used to be a merger of fortunes and joining of social status more than love and mutual desire? And because the grooms in these mergers received dowry from the fathers of the brides, males had a higher value than woman. Something that would have made a gay man worthless, compared to a straight one. So no wonder homosexuality was painted as a sin, despite hardly being mentioned in the Bible. Similar with lesbians. A woman that not give birth could not provide a son who when he married, and married wisely, could increase both the fortune and the social standing of the family name. Furthermore, in a society were women's role was home and children only, and children was the pension and future, how would gay and lesbians survive if they got to old age, not having any children to look after them? So no wonder women were not allowed to be priests, when they were not allowed to speak, work outside the home or have control over money.
It is not other religions that has marginalized conservative Christian belief, but the fact a majority of Norwegians are not convinced with what it preach, and therefore have sought to more progressive Christian interpretations, or turned their back on religion completely. That conservative Christians now are in a minority, I, belonging to the former of the two previously mentioned groups, feel the conservative Christians only have themselves to blame for. Their reactionary views has scared more people away from God, than brought them to him.
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That’s not true. Most Norwegians don’t consider themselves christians. Certain areas theres a lot more than others though, bible belt and often small towns.
@@mari97216 As far as being actively participating, going to church and more, that is true. But 68% of the population belong to the Evangelical Lutheran Church. Only 25% of people are non-religious. According to Human Etisk Forbund's own information, more than 150 000 of them are human etics, and registered members of their organisation. It is also correct that in a survey of 2018 only roughly 47% said they believe in God, while roughly 52% answered no to that question. But it is also a fact that many values the moral code and ethics of Christianity, and considers it an integrate part of Norwegian identity and culture. They baptise their children, marry and get buried in churches. Despite alternative burial ceremonies are available, very few take use of them. Also most confirmations are Christian. 33 000 in 2023, compared to 15 000 humanistic ones. So regardless you claiming otherwise, it is true - most Norwegians consider themselves Christians (in one way or the other).
@@mari97216 Yes, it is true. 68% of Norwegians identify as Lutherans. Despite there are alternatives most babies still are baptised in church. More than twice as many, 33 000 last year, confirmations are conducted by the church. Only 15 000 of the humanistic alternative. And that was a record year for humanistic confirmations.
Idk if u read this in the video But there was a bomb threat in the parliament in Oslo the police had block the area
"Who threatened the Norwegian Parliament" - apparently there are pro-IS groups or other islamists that have resulted in a heightened security level in Norway in general.
It's been to much lately😢