Before and after restoring a Blüthner 6ft 3in grand c1887. cf. Yamaha C3, Bechstein A. Jump links:
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- čas přidán 10. 05. 2020
- Click on these jump links: PART 1: BEFORE RESTORATION:
0:01 Blüthner style VIII appearance before restoration
3:01 bass string tone
4:15 tenor tone
4:25 mid-tone
5:47 hammers before replacement
8:35 piano played before restoration
PART 2: AFTER RESTORATION:
10:34 appearance after restoration
12:41 some technical aspects
14:26 bass string tone
15:46 tenor tone - please note this is before fine voicing; the hammers can be mellowed if required.
16:02 mid-tone - hammers can be mellowed if required.
16:47 treble singing area
16:57 Blüthner patent action - please search "Patent" on our channel for more videos on this.
17:44 new hammers
18:22 marking the hammers for voicing; our worksheet for weighting, fine regulation, tuning, voicing, etc.
19:27 voicing explanation - please search "voicing on our channel for more videos on this.
20:41 Blüthner VIII being played after restoration
23:32 Bechstein A 1909 fully restored being played
24:11 Yamaha C3 2003 being played
24:47 Blüthner VIII played
Thank you for watching. Please see our CZcams channel for videos covering different aspects of restoration
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Resetting the pins worked on my 1914 Bluthner 6'3" Aliquot grand, holds a tune beautify
Very useful videos, thank you for taking the time out to do these. I own a Blüthner 5,8 Style 5 [no Aliqot] grand form 1911 and whilst the piano is cosmetically poorly, the action and mainly the sound are unbelievable. I managed to fix 3 of the broken patent hammer shanks. Whilst I absolutely adore its sound, a restoration is currently out of economic reach. This one looks well done and what I imagine my own could look like one day. Greetings from The Netherlands.
I recently played my first Bluthner. I have never played a piano whose sound connected with me so much. Such depth, resonance, warmth, personality. it really fills a space. It had an extensively cracked soundboard which caused me to be too scared to buy, but what a piano!
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Marcus. Thank you so much for this video. We do not see many Bluthner's here in the States much less Bechsteins. That 1887 Bluthner has a delightful warm tone. Beautiful restoration. All the Best to you. PS Would love to have heard a performance of Claire De Lune or Liebestraum on that Bluthner. That would have been wonderful to hear on that piano. Again. What a delightful full warm tone. I would welcome that piano here in my Florida home. beautiful, beautiful tone. you guys got that restoration right. nothing lost in the transition and much gained.
This is my dream piano the Bluthner from 1887.
What a fantastic instrument, great comparison at the end of the video. Please keep up your great work!
blüthner is so beautiful!
Great restoration for a great piano. Just one curiosity did you use original wire size ?
Hello, Roberts! I'm from Argentina, and I recently bought a bluthner from 1898. I'm loving it! I'm actually restoring it with my piano tecnician. In my case, they hammers sound quite well, but i think it might be a good idea to buy new Renner ones. The strings, are the original ones, but i can't afford to buy new strings. Do you think it will change too muchas the sound?
I definitley hear that it has a mellow sound, maybe it's because of the hammers. But, men!! The sound of the piano after the restauration really males me think about changing the hammers.
I hope i can send you pictures of my bluthner some day.
Thanks you for this video! It's really inspiring!
Juani
Its 1899! My bad!
One thing that you never see is a pre-1960 Yamaha restored in the way that Roberts did to that wonderful old Bluthner.
Oh yes, the Bluthner tone is so refined, sweet and clear. Just one question. Why is there so much 'Ribbon' installed over the Aliquot area? I think I know but would like to hear it from you if you could. Best regards.
Hi, great work as usual. Where do you find thin delignit to laminate this kind of bluthner wrest plank? I've ever seen 35mm minimum for delignit. Thank you
I have a style Bluthner VIII 1900. Wonderful pianos as you say. Mine was fully restored 15-20 years ago and done pretty well. When restoring these with the patent actions what key dip do you go for? I have read that originally Bluthner would do 9mm but mine was increased to 10mm during the restoration. Do you go for the 9mm or does the more usual 10mm still work well with these patent action? Thanks! I enjoy your videos immensely!
Thank you for your encouragement! Very good question! Personally I prefer to deepen the touch as most pianos have at least 10.5 mm and the Blüthner patent works well and has the sense of after-touch with greater depth. If you're a technician and want to disagree with doing that, I fully understand! Marcus
Roberts Pianos Thanks for your insight with this Marcus. I did read somewhere that Bluthner themselves increased their originally preferred key dip from 9mm to 10mm but I do not know if this change relates to the patent action or the later adopted roller action in their pianos. If anyone has any insight into this I would be glad to hear it. I do know that my Style VIII from 1900 does not have clearance for the felt trim above the keys attached to the fall now that the keys are at 10mm dip. This suggests that the 9mm preference was certainly in vogue at Bluthner in early 1900’s.
Magnificent. How is a polyester finish achieved? Is it sprayed on? Best wishes
Thank you for your encouragement! We outsource the polyester work so perhaps someone who has experience doing it will comment better than I can! Marcus
Beautiful looking and sounding, how does it compare to a Bösendorfer?
Thank you for your encouragement! Both makes are good and it depends on the model so it's difficult to answer. I see that we don't have any Bösendorfer / Blüthner comparisons so when the opportunity arises I will try to make one. Marcus
Hi How much was the full restoration I have a model 7 1898 ?
Hello. The sounboard of the Bluthner 8 is new?
No, we try to keep the original soundboard if the crown is good. Blüthner grands seem to retain the crown extremely well. Marcus
It would be good to know the serial number of this piano if you have a record of it.
Thank you for your suggestion. We don't always put serial numbers on the videos but as all technicians will know, Bluthner grand serial numbers are written inside the back of the piano on the right in very big numbers! Marcus
Why do they put that string of blue felt on the strings?
That surprises me, too - this would silence the aliquot strings. Is this supposed to allow easier tuning? Will this be removed again after tuning?
I thought about that again - of course the Aliquot strings need to be silenced in that area because those strings are supposed to sound only in the front part before the agraffe.