DJI Ground Station Pro and the Mavic 2 Pro. 3D mapping modeling
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So I’ve really gone down the rabbit hole with this video. I recently decided to give ground station pro a second try out. The newly updated application has some improved features since the last time I tried it in early 2018. And with my initial testing in this video I think there’s hope for ground station pro.
First off in 3-D map missions you can have the camera follow along with your flight path and aircraft heading. That wasn’t available in the earlier version. Additionally they’ve added some flight log abilities although the auto sync isn’t there yet.
For this video I flew two back to back missions with the Mavic 2 Pro. The mission flights worked perfectly. And while the 3-D models didn’t work perfect they were OK. With one exception. Pix4D model had some issues which I’ll share in the second episode of this series.
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Thank you so much for the video, this is extremely helpful!
Hi Rich, great video. I am just starting doing automated data collection for mapping, so learnt a lot about GS Pro. Re. Bruno de Marques's question below, DJI Terra (new software they have brought out) will now allow the use of Digital Terrain Model data to factor in/compute a "Terrain Follow" option to maintain the same altitude across a wide expanse with elevation changes. Failing that, one can map ribbons along the slopes to maintain the same perspective on slope ground, but it is fiddly. Hope that helps. Regards, Laurent.
Rich will this app work for getting my 3d Agisoft Metashape
Standard Edition ? I know Ive ask you a ton of questions but that's what this is all about right ?
No worries on the questions. Glad I'm helping out....hope I'm helping out! :)
I haven't used Agisoft 3d Metashape. I use GS Pro with Agisoft's Photoscan Standard edition, and it's worked well. Now you've got me curious about Metashape and I'll have to research when I have better net.
Hey Rich thank you for the quick returns . I want to be able to stitch and do 3d s send me where I need to be . Your my favorite on this great app.
For rendering 2 & 3D models there are a lot of applications out there. Try each out with the free trial periods. Don't sign up to all of them at the same time. Try each. Maps Made Easy, Pix4D, Drone Deploy, Agisoft's Photoscan. Give them a whirl, and be sure to have a lot of data on hand before you try each so you can really get some use out of them.
Hi Rich, great video!!, You may tray to process the model on arbitrary mesh not high field on Photo Scan, that should give you less melted trees.
Yuri Alvarez thanks for the awesome tip! I’ll check it out today or tomorrow. Thanks again!!!
Hi Rich, another great video and you’re the first channel I’ve ever really subscribed to. Have you ever tried a 3D model of a house or other building? I find it hard to get nice sharp edges along rooflines, or where the walls meet the ground. Thanks again
I've done some higher end models for private clients who preferred I didn't share their properties (privacy concerns). And it is possible to get good models without too many artifacts. It requires more imaging, more facade images, orbits, and grid missions. It can be done, but a much higher time investment up front, plus a lot more processing power when you're back at the office.
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Does it support Terrain Follow with 3D mapping? I have been using Pix4D capture for about 2 years now and do not regularly need this function but it becomes tedious to split a single flight into 2-3 to maintain a relatively constant GSD. I use this data in Pix4D mapper as-well so it will easily resolve for key points and create a model as long as the GSD between 2 flights remain "GSD1" smaller than or equal to "2xGSD2". I'm looking into Metashape as I have done a few projects using this recently but both seem pretty much the same in my opinion except the price difference and support available. What overall best flight planning software would you recommend for a small survey company with some funding? Whether mobile or desktop as I am not sure how far we can push Metashape with flights of varying GSD.
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Thanks for a great tutorial and for taking me in to the 3D world :-) Is it possible to do backups of the missions and the way-points, somewhere else than the ipad? If I'm following a 2 year project I'll feel more safe to have my missions a secure place.
Personally I back up my entire iPad with imazing. I use it for my iPhone as well. I believe there is also a way to export missions as well but I need to double check first. Sorry for my delay in response. A very busy couple of days here.
Following up from earlier. You can backup your missions. Upper right corner of the app is a button that looks like a plane. You can share your missions via email or setup a temporary local web server. So you can save and share your missions. 😊
Hi Rich, do you know if the Mavic 2 Enterprise (Zoom Version) is supported? great video
GS Pro acknowledges the camera. In GS Pro when you connect the enterprise it will show that you are using a Mavic 2 Pro camera. Sorry for my delay in response, your comment slipped by me.
Hi Rich, fantastic video! I have a couple of questions (not yet answered below) I’m trying to access crop health (descoloration, for example, but at a finer scale).
How low can the drone get so I may get more detailed mapping?
Is collision an issue with pre programmed GS flights? (Uneven terrain, trees, ...)
Is gps data from each photo saved in the jpeg file? How can I check it? (It must be somewhere, right?)
Thank you so much
Getting too low on these flights can cause a few issues for sure. Issue Number 1 is the fact that the lower you're flying, the more images you'll need to take. Closer to the ground means a lot more images. And potential obstacles. The higher you fly, the fewer images you're taking. But of course flying higher means less detail. It's a balancing act for sure. There are apps that will let you adjust for terrain (terrain aware features). GS Pro isn't one for terrain aware flight unfortunately. Both Map Pilot from Maps Made Easy, and Drone Harmony offer the ability to fly with terrain awareness.
hi rich
first i want to thank you for this super video about operating gsp !!!
you program to mission : gsp mavic 2 & copy, are they two seperets flights ?
i mean : landing from first mission and then take off for the secound mission and landing again ?
thanks again
Yes these are two separate flights. Since GSP doesn’t offer a grid pattern mission, making 2 missions with the flight paths varying will cover that grid mission need. So fly one mission, have it return (might need a new battery) and then fly the second mission.
Hi Rich thank you great teaching video. Does GSP work with Mavic pro?
It works with the Mavic Pro and Mavic 2 Pro as well. I have both. My first models were made with the Mavic Pro and Ground Station Pro. A project that I'm currently working on uses both Mavics and GS Pro.
Amazing video; thanks! I just started exploring the drone world. This technology will help me great time with my jobs. It is possible to make 3d mapping using Mavic Mini?
Yes it’s possible to do 3d models with the mini. It’s possible to make models with most any drone. The big thing is which apps will support your drone.
Hi Rich, I am VERY happy I came across your page, I have a few (I'd like to say quick, but I doubt it) questions, and pick your brain a bit. Little background of myself, recently had to retire few yrs early from a 23yr career that I loved, as a Firefighter/medic, due to some minor medical issues. Been a hobbyist around 5yrs or so, started off with P2, then P3P and P4. Started messing with fpv racing/freestyle, and got into that pretty heavy for a while. Last year just before retiring, started to miss the photog side, and dusted off last remaining DJI drone, my Mavic Pro and started playing around with that.
Now I have some time on my hands, I get bored easy, so I am starting a drone business. Would like to offer the usual stuff, inspections, weddings, real estate, etc.. but also looking at doing some unique services too, and also volunteering drone resources with my local fire and police dept., since I ran the drone program at my full time fire dept. before retiring. I'm currently studying for the 107, and besides my Mavic, I purchased a DJI 550, that still needs some assembly, and just last month found an unbelievable deal on a DJI S1000, with the Zenmuse gimbal and a Lumix G9 camera.
I am very comfortable piloting drones, fairly confident in my abilities with intelligent flight modes and waypoint missions on consumer models, confident in the software Betaflight that configures our racing drones and have some decent intermediate level editing software, Adobe Premiere Elements. This S1000 though, has me quite intimidated, it uses the A2 flight controller, so I'll need to learn A2 assistant software, along with DJI IOSD MarkII, and the Ground Station uses DJI's 2.4GHz bluetooth data link w/ BTU module. Then the whole kit & caboodle is operated by 2 Futaba radios, one for drone, one works camera. Not to mention I have almost no knowledge about actual photography, other than set everything on auto, point and shoot. The guy that sold me the S1000 worked in Hollywood as a drone operator for a few years. He said after learning the software side of this drone, start reading everything you can find on photography, shutter speed, aperture settings, etc, all those setting you never mess with, learn how to use them.
So I guess my question is, after all that rambling, do you think I bit off more than I can chew if I want to offer engineering type services like 3Dmodeling. Like to be somewhat up and running sometime this Spring. Is the GS software fairly easy to integrate to having experience with GO app waypoints yet no experience with 3D modeling? Should I just stick to things more up my alley/easier, like real estate or weddings or like the lighting rig I am making for the 550? (I've designed a rig using pair of 100w Bridgelux LED chips, air cooled w/fan + heat sinks powered by 6s 7amp lipos, combined brightness of 26k lumen). Could be used for night photo shoots, or for search n rescue with emergency services. Are the classes listed above online I take it, looks like a few would be perfect for me.
Anyway, any advice or tips you could throw my way would be greatly appreciated. Again, sorry for rambling on the thread, I tend to state a lot of detail, plus like I said, getting bored not working, so "droning on" in youtube vids fills some time..lol. Happy Flying!
Good morning. No worries about rambling, I do it too. :)
It sounds like you’ve got some very good skill sets that could apply to your drone business. The fact that you’ve worked as an emergency responder gives you some great opportunities right off the bat. Have you looked into accident reconstruction with drones? I believe the guys over at Drone U have an in person course on that. That type of work could tie right into your expertise.
Over time you can build up to construction 3D modeling. The big question is whether or not there are companies looking for that service in your area. My primary contacts are coming from construction companies looking for time lapse video and stills to document construction progress. That work seems to be in demand. Requests for modeling aren’t as frequent. One thing you can do is use smaller jobs to grow into larger modeling opportunities. When I work client sites I usually add a few extra flights in for myself to improve all aspects of the work I’m doing.
You made me laugh when you said “easier, like real estate or weddings.” We’ve done weddings over the years. The most high stress work you can do in photography from my view point. :) We stay away from wedding work these days both ground based or aerial. But that’s just us.
I think my best advice is to pace yourself. No need to rush into one path or another. If you’re interested in modeling start practicing with the different Apps available. Don’t go investing a ton of money into the programs and applications. Use the free trials to start and make use of them. See what fits for your flying. Try one at a time, don’t download them all immediately. Give yourself time with each.
The guy who sold you the S1000 was correct, understanding photography principles will go a long way to aiding you in your drone business. Even when using autonomous flight apps it’s good to understand how ISO, Aperture, and Shutter speed impact what it is you’re imaging.
Nice to meet you by the way. Have fun and fly safe!
Rich
Rich great video. What is the difference between photomap and 3D map area?
There's not a ton of difference between the two. Photomap seems to be geared toward making 2D maps on GS Pro, and being able to see them on GS Pro. In the Photomap setup you can only select Parallel to the Main Path and Perpendicular to the Main Path as shooting angle options. In the 3D Map you also have course aligned for shooting angle options. From what I've seen, the 2D Photomap is all about the ability to generate a 2D map on your iPad while you're on location.
The feature is somewhat useful if you're at a new construction site. You pull up the Google satellite map and find that there's no building showing up yet. So you make the Photomap and render it on your iPad. You now have some reference as to the area you're flying. DJI includes the ability to make 5 of these maps for demonstration purposes. The full version of this paid for function costs $300, and doesn't seem to have any other functions.
In my personal case, I use the 3D Map area, 3D Map POI ($10), and the Waypoint Route setups.
Hi Rich,
Awesome video!
Some questions if you don't mind:
What are the costs affiliated with the app?
Have you experienced problems with GSP?
Do you need to mark your Ground Control Points?
The app itself is free for GS Pro. There are a few upgrades that aren't necessary that cost some money. But all of the important features are free. Remember, it's an iPad only app. So if you don't own an iPad you'd have to get one to run GS Pro.
You can fly missions without GCPs. But it you're trying to be as accurate as you can be you'll want to mark out some GCPs as well. It all depends on the application you have in mind for your flights.
I’m just wondering if ground station allows you to embed the model on a website so that others can view and use it?
Ground Station pro captures the images for making a model. It doesn’t process a 3D model. Once you’ve collected your images with gs pro you will need to render your model with a program like Pix4D mapper, Metashape, or other desktop modeling software. Or you can process the model online with services like Drone Deploy, Maps made easy, Pix4Ds online processing. GS Pro is the first step in the process, image capture. The second step is desktop or cloud solutions to render and share the model.
Hi, just come across this video and great job! I have been trying to do this with my mavic pro for a while, but it seams the reason it fails is that I'm using pix4D.
Just a shame DJI don't promote this and build it into their enterprise version. Would love to know more about the process of generating the 3D model and how I can then take that model into an architectural design package?
Ok Rich you showed us how to map the area how about the stitching or turnong these into 3d .
Rich I flew another mission and got blurred pictures but I was using a number 16 ND filter on my mavic pro ,can you tell me whats going on and how do we manipulate the camera settings with this app.
Hey Garrick! So when you’re doing models you really don’t want any ND filter on the camera. The NDs are for video allowing you to darken the scene to achieve the appropriate shutter speed and FPS. An ND filter for still photos darkens the scene as well, forcing your drone to take longer exposure images which can become blurred due to the motion of the drone. In my udemy class I actually noted that I messed up a model because I forgot I had my ND filter on.
Hi from Russia, mister Rich. I noticed that you are using autofocus mode. This is not good for getting the exact geometry of your 3D model. It is better to fix the focus at the height of the flight mission. And thanks for your tutorials.
Amazing Video, ThankX for it. But I wonder that 70º tilt angle is better than 90º? I Can't find the 2nd Video.
The tilt angle for the flight depends on what you're looking to do. If you'd like to create a 3D model getting some of the sides of structures, rocks, etc will have value. If you're interested in 2D models only then doing the 90 degree angle will be just fine. Thanks for the comment.
Hi... tnx for the video... im using mavic 2 zoom, im trying to learn gsp from this video alone, it helps alot... but from what i have observed from your video, there is no gimbal pitch in my app... i tried looking at it while looking at your video and vice versa... in your video its just above rth, but in my app its not here... and 1thing i want to ask also is how to generate the map after all the flights... tnx again... more power..
I'm sorry for the delay in my response. Been a little busy around here, but catching up on CZcams comments today.
In order to be able to adjust your gimbal pitch you must select a 3D Map Area flight. If you choose a "PhotoMap" flight you will not be offered the option to adjust the gimbal. So you probably started planning your mission as a PhotoMap.
If you want to generate a 2D photo map in GS Pro you must purchase their add on feature "PhotoMap" for $300. Personally I offload the images that I capture with GS Pro and generate my 2D and 3D models with Metashape.
get any data from an old map(Nad27) ... in Northeast Ohio, I believe the shift is about 300' ... but I don't remember which one which ... The origin in both, I think, was the same for east west, which would make the shift roughly N-S ...
Great video. I’m just delving into drone mapping/surveying (I already do video/photo work) and I like how you showed everything from beginning to end. How to you merge the north/south and east/west missions into one large mission?
Randy Mennie in the case of this small map area and the flight time I simply took all images from each flight and imported them into the modeling software. When you start doing really big maps you’ll want ground control points as well. That’s when the modeling starts getting “complex”. Or you’ll want the RTK Phantom. 😀
Do you know how well this would deal with altitude changes in the land you are surveying? I.e can I set the drone to be at 200m and if the land drops away, it flys down to maintain 200m above the land at all times?
Ground Station Pro currently does not offer "Terrain Aware" flights as you've described unfortunately. However, several other autonomous flight apps do allow for terrain aware flights where the drone's elevation changes while flying over your job site. Drone Harmony (an Andorid and web based application) allows for setting up terrain aware flights, and Map Pilot from Maps Made Easy (iOS application) also allows for terrain aware flights.
Hello Rich, This is a great tutorial video as I'm just learning how to do mapping. I don't have a Mac computer. Which program do you recommend for windows? Also, which is the best way to share the final product with a client? Can Ground Station Pro provide a link like Drone Deploy? I'm really favoring GSP over Drone Deploy, but would like to provide links or easy access to final product without building an expensive work station to do it. Any guidance you could provide would be helpful.
Michael, glad the tutorial was useful for you. You don't need a Mac, but for Ground Station Pro you would need an iPad. Ground Station Pro is made for planning and executing your flights for 2D and 3D models. You use it to fly the site you're documenting. When you've completed your data / image capture you come home and offload a ton of pictures.
From there you'll offload your images and either use a desktop modeling software (Metashape / Pix4D), or an online modeling service (Pix4D, Drone Deploy, Maps Made Easy). I think this point isn't obvious to folks who are learning about this, and I can see why this is confusing.
There are two major steps for doing this type of modeling. 1- Data capture (GS Pro, Map Pilot Pro, Drone Harmony, Drone Deploy Capture). 2-Data Processing (Drone Deploy, Pix4D, Maps Made Easy, Metashape).
Whatever capture app you use to get your images doesn't matter so much. I can take images from Ground Station Pro and upload them to Maps Made Easy, Drone Deploy or Pix4D. I can take images from Map Pilot Pro and upload them to Maps Made Easy, Drone Deploy, or Pix4D (there are other 3D modeling packages as well).
As far as sharing models with clients, Ground Station Pro doesn't do that. It's just for capturing the images. I can take the images from GS Pro and render them in whatever 3D modeler I want. Online, Drone Deploy, Maps Made Easy, or Pix4D can render the models. Each of these online services allow you to share with your clients in a variety of ways. 2D Model downloads, 3D Model Viewers. In my case I use the desktop software "Metashape". It's a Windows and Mac software package. I create my models on my desktop, and then share with my clients through my custom website setup.
Take a look at our "Black Friday" class sale at Teachable. Each class listed has several free video previews. There's a good bit to learn when you're first starting out with modeling. az-drone.teachable.com/p/black-friday-bundle-all-courses-from-az-drone
Rich, This is great information and I just downloaded the GSP app on my Ipad. I will be testing it out this week. I appreciate all of the information you provided, as well as the videos. I also plan on checking out your bundle courses. Have a Happy and Safe Thanksgiving!!
Do you use/recommend neutral density filters with the Mavic 2 pro
I actually did get a set of Polar Pro filters for the Mavic 2 Pro. For filming during the afternoon here in Arizona even with aperture control I've found the need for an ND filter. For doing still photography with the drone I haven't found the need for the ND filter. If you're going to be filming in high sunlight, you'll probably want ND filters as well. 😀
Thank you
hi rich, is agisoft photoscan standard edition is sufficient for stitching the photos taken by DJI Ground Station Pro?
Photoscan has been renamed to Metashape. And the standard edition is sufficient to generate point clouds, a mesh, and a texture for 3d models. If you’re looking to do 2D orthomosaic and digital elevation models with GPS information built in you’ll need the pro edition. So the standard will work fine if you’re just looking to make 3d models and exporting those models.
Rich Charpentier many thanks for the response Rich. I still have one more question though, would it be possible for flying mission I use drone deploy app with iPhone while stitching the photo I use agisoft metashape standard? I noted the drone deploy flying mission app is free. This is due to the fact that the dji gs pro is limited to 96 waypoints only. Thanks
Iria, you can use any capture app you'd like to with Metashape. The capture apps all do the same thing. Fly a path you define and shoot images every few seconds that overlap each other. While different apps have different features, the end result is always the same. You have a bunch of images taken from your drone that you need to throw into a rendering software package. So you should be all set! Have fun!
Just wanted to point out that I don't think there is any point using cross-hatch flights if the camera is pointed straight down. I can see the point only if the camera gimbal angle is anything but -90degrees. What do you think about this Rich?
I've done a ton of testing with Map Pilot, GS Pro, Drone Deploy & Pix4D capture in the Granite Dells. The dells is a pretty crazy set of rocks here in AZ. In trying missions over and over again I've found cross hatch actually helps make better models of the rocks. Cross hatch & change in gimbal tilt helps even more. But the rocks here are a unique feature that most drone operators will never run across.
When I've tried a single mission with GS Pro with no cross hatch and no gimbal change the models weren't good. Trying cross hatch they improved even with the camera at 90 degrees. Cross hatch and gimbal change produced the best results. And the best results "out of the box" for this weird set of rocks was Pix4D capture the first time. It by default offers the cross hatch, and has gimbal tilt added in as well.
I think for normal locations, just 2D models, cross hatch isn't necessary. But if you start getting a lot of land features, etc., cross hatch & gimbal tilt change should be tried.
@@AZ-Drone well how do explain then why exactly would cross-hatch with gimbal -90degrees would be beneficial cuz I dont get it! Wouldnt it just rotate the aspect ratio of the images? By the way pix4d and dronedeploy does not show live fpv while flying missions. do you see the live fpv?
@@vracan Honestly I'm uncertain and my testing is anecdotal at best. Just my experimentation and what I saw trying multiple apps and multiple capture strategies.
'm thinking though that coming in at a different angle may assist with getting different takes on the shadows and the cliff faces on the rocks we have in the dells. Canyons dropping down, some rock faces lit, while some well in shadow.
On Drone Deploy I don't get to see the FPV view. On Pix4D Capture there is a little FPV camera window option (upper right corner of the app).
Do I need to have Mac computer for this, or I can use normal PC?
You can use a regular PC. 😀
Hi there, I use maps made easy for small projects, but struggling to find if I can change resolution of the Mavic 2 pro when taking photos using this? Maps made easy allows me to upload around 60 normal photos at full res, figured if i dropped it say by 50% i could cover more area, albeit at a lower res?
To my knowledge I don't think there's a way to ratchet down the resolution of stills made with GS Pro. Maybe resize with a tool like Lightroom? You've left me curious now as well, and I'll try to do an experiment this week myself. I'm currently exporting a large model for a client today, so I might not have a final response today.
@@AZ-Drone I never thought of that, mind you I'm only running Lightroom mobile(can you tell I'm cheap yet? 😭😂).
Thank you for checking, I'm back in now but was meant to play when I was out earlier. I figured if I switch to the camera rather than map layout before take off, it looks like you can change image settings there, but again, I haven't looked in detail to what settings you can play with, Ie just exposure etc.
Cheers again.
Rich, quick question - on longer flights that need a change of battery, does the software automatically pick up where the mission fished on battery one, and then automatically pick up where the mission left off with the new battery? With Drone Deploy this is automatic. Great video and tutorial, many thanks
My apologies for my delay in response. I thought I responded the other day but CZcams says I did not. With GS Pro you can stop the mission, fly the drone back to you, swap the battery, and relaunch where you left off. GS Pro does not do this automatically so you've got to stay on your toes watching battery life and where the drone is to make sure you bring it back before the battery gets too low.
@@AZ-Drone thank you! Much appreciated
Hi Rich, I'm a subscriber. May I ask if there are any free offline (use own PC) to stitch and generate the 3D maps? I could search, but didn't have time to test them all. What would you recommend. Thanks in advance.
First off, love your user name! Gave me a laugh first thing in the morning!
There is a mapping and modeling package called WebODM. It’s an open source project that you can download and compile for free. Or you can pay the under $100 for a setup installer. I personally haven’t had much success with the software on my older windows machine or my iMac. I’ve made some small models, but larger ones get really resource intensive fast. When I have free time I want to experiment more with it.
@@AZ-Drone Rich. Glad you liked my username. First time I heard that. Nothing else I would like to say about my username except "True story..." Hahaha.
I've not come accross WebODM. But after you suggested, I went and did a search. Interesting, it uses multi server concepts so you can scale horizontally if required (more than 1 PC/server). Will try it out when I have chance.
Also, just to let you know, you saved me 300 dollar from purchasing the PhotoMap feature in GS Pro. I was going to purchase it thinking that I can't do any mapping at all without it. After watching your videos then I realised that I could actually do 3D Area Mapping for free. Except that it doesn't stitch them up in the app.
I will try PhotoMap if I have the chance with the 5 times free, maybe I do need. it. But 300 dollar is a lot.
Thanks again, Rich.
Keep up the good work producing video contents that is fresh and new.
Rich, have you used the Pilot APP with the Mavic 2 Pro Smart Controller?
Ronald Conway unfortunately I haven’t gotten to use it. I never purchased the smart controller.
Question from an old guy learning new tech. Do I need to buy secondary software to turn my GSP mission photos into a 3D image? POI?, KML/SHP file import?, or PhotoMap?
You will need a 2D / 3D rendering software in order to take the images captured and turn them into a model. Some of this software can get very expensive. Fortunately most of the programs can be tested for 14 - 30 days. The most cost effective way to start learning would be WebODM (which is an open source platform). Since it is open source there is a free version but that requires some command line experience. They offer an automatic download / install which costs $57. Check out two recent videos I posted on WebODM usage.
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Sorry man because of my english, I couldnt get how did you create these waypoints
Thanks for the tutorial. What program do you use to view the 3D model?
I use Metashape to assemble and display the 3D Model. I can export from Metashape and share the model on Sketchfab as well. Those are what I use. You could also use "Maps Made Easy," Pix4D, Drone Deploy, and many other services that will render and display your models.
@@AZ-Drone thank you. I now have GSP on my iPad however when trying to configure the mavic Air 2 camera , GSP does not show the Mavic air 2 camera. Regardless, everything seems to work in the configurations. With that said, will the Air 2 “talk” to the app when I commence with the mission?
@@highanddryful Taking a look at the GSP website it does not look like they support the Air 2 yet. I'm including a link to their website. Near the bottom they list compatible drones / cameras. The Air 2 isn't there yet, so I wouldn't advise trying to fly it with GSP. Here's the link www.dji.com/ground-station-pro
Great video! Can you tell me what software you used to process the photos to make the map?
I use Metashape for processing 2 & 3D models You can also use other rendering software as well.
@@AZ-Drone thanks for the reply. I have not even flown my drone on a model flight yet. I am put off by the expensive prices of the rendering software. Can you recommend free software for me to try out the whole process?
Most of the 3d modeling software packages offer a free trial. Anywhere from 14 days to a full month. I always suggest people try one out at a time. That way you’re not spread between multiple programs. For free software there is Web ODM but it requires a more robust computer than other software. Finding “free” modeling apps is pretty difficult as there’s a lot of development time involved in building this type of software.
@@AZ-Drone thank you for your reply. I completely understand, the software is so expensive, id be happy to pay once i have a portfolio i can tender for work with.
Good Evening! I am looking for software for roof inspections, I'd like to fly with grid type pattern and overlapping images with different gimbal angles. I thought Litchi would do that but it wasn't something that was covered in your course on waypoints. Can you suggest a software that's not in the Dronedeploy price range?
Good afternoon. At present Litchi isn't the best tool for that. They offer waypoint mission that are very useful, but they don't offer any grid flight yet. However I read a rumor recently that Litchi would be adding grid flights. You can actually use Dronedeploy's capture application for your flights in grid patterns. You don't have to process your images with Dronedeploy. You can offload your capture images to your computer and process them with other software you select. Personally for grid flights I use Drone Harmony and Map Pilot Pro. Ground Station Pro is no longer supported by DJI
Actually that should be "Ancient Land." for Litchi.
I don't see the M2Zoom listed. Does it not work with the program?Thanks
Mike, I just went to the Ground Station Pro website, and did a search for the Mavic 2. Near the bottom of the page it says that it is compatible with the Mavic 2 Zoom. On the camera in the app itself it just says Mavic 2 Camera and doesn't differentiate between the Pro or the Zoom. Here's the link to their site, and if you do a search on the page you'll find the Mavic 2 zoom listed. Hope this is helpful. :) . www.dji.com/ground-station-pro
Rich, Thanks so much for answering my Question so Fast! I am just beginning my quest on starting a drone business. Studying now for the Part 107. Almost ready. But, getting all the ducks in a row and this looks like a good program to have in the inventory. Also, I just went to the website they show the Mavic Enterprise which is the Zoom with Bling LOL. Thanks again for the fast response.
Glad to be of help Mike. I've liked Ground Station Pro conceptually for a while, but there are still some minor issues with it. If you have an iPad it certainly can't hurt to give it a try as it's free. I'll be doing more on the Waypoint missions in the near future as well. For doing larger models of land I like Map Pilot the best. But I'm continuing to test the updates on GS Pro and I'll post the results here as well. Good luck with your 107 test. It's not super hard if you read and study. :) . My least favorite part was the weather questions.
Thanks Rich, Yea it took me a little bit to grasp stable and unstable air but, I think I got it down now.
@@CopperStateAerialPhotography I have a zoom and works perfect!
If you use Pix4D mapper , I should map with
Pix4D capture only? Or I can use DJI GS Pro
bcs I think it's better .
Can someone answer me?
You can use any capture software you like to. I have run test models with GS Pro and Map Pilot through Pix4D without problems.
@@AZ-Drone Ty very much
damn i buy me a new drone mavic air 2 and the most apps to mapping didnt work with this drone... now i ask my self will this come for this drone? you know anything about it=? i asked dji but i still waiting 4 answer. nice video keep going peace and love
Usually after a new drone is released the Application developers receive the SDK (Software Developers Kit) to start integrating the new drone with their software. Sometimes the SDK release is delayed and it takes a while for the developers to catch up. Check each app developers websites to see if they have the mavic air 2 listed yet.
@@AZ-Drone ok ty
How do you afford the softwares? Are there discounted versions? Pay per job? They all seem very expensive and you would need jobs lines up for it to be worth it.
The prices for some of the 3D rendering packages are very high indeed. I started out practicing with the demo versions of many of the modeling packages. Then I selected Photoscan Standard (now Metashape). It allowed me to practice more model building before settling on the higher end packages. It takes time to justify purchasing some of these until you have clients that need those services.
@@AZ-Drone Thanks for the reply. What in your opinion is the best way to reach out to potential clients for this type of service?
Can you show us how you copied the grid to change direction
Hey Garrick. Sorry for my delay in response. I'm in central AZ right now, and with the population influx for the winter the network here is nearly unusable. Funny, I was camping off grid the other night in the desert and had blazing fast internet!
On your question. In GS Pro go to your Missions window. Find the mission you want to duplicate. Touch the mission and swipe from right to left. Two options will pop up. Copy & Delete. Don't delete! Hit copy, and you'll have a copy of your mission. Select the copy and at the bottom of the mission bar you'll see Edit. Hit that, head on in and change your course angle in the right bar under the Advance settings. You don't have to make them 90 degrees different. Normally though that's how I do it though. Pick your angles based on the shadowing you're dealing with at the time of day you anticipate flying.
"Gimbal Pitch" under Margin isn't shown on my app for some reason, any one know what this means?
Not sure off the top of my head. With Ground Station Pro no longer supported by DJI, I haven't setup new flights in quite a while with GS Pro.
whats the cost for GS pro?
GS Pro is free. It works on only iPads, and does offer a few pay for upgrades.
Too bad, dji GS Pro app didn't compatible with my ipad 2 version 😕
I hear you on that one. I have an older iPad that couldn't run the software and ended up buying an iPad Mini 4 just to run GS Pro.
so are you still recommending dji gs pro?
I still use Ground Station Pro regularly and I'll actually be putting out another video on it later this week. Keep in mind, GS Pro is not the only flight app I use. I also use Litchi & Map Pilot regularly as well. Each app has strong points and weak points, and which one you use depends on the job you are doing.
@@AZ-Drone ok thanks can you do video showing advantages/disadvantages of using one of those apps over the other?
@@vracan I will put that on the list for this week or next week.
Can it shoot raw or only jpg?
In free flight you can do RAW on GS Pro. But if your doing a model 2D or 3D you will be shooting .jpg. I’m not sure about the waypoint missions, you might be able to shoot RAW with each waypoints actions. I’ll look into that for you.
@@AZ-Drone I'd check it out later today. But I can see that "Map Pilot" actually has the option to shoot RAW images, that's great for photogrammetry works like I do.
@@javilajara2059 I'm a big fan of Map Pilot as well. All the missions I've done with it are .jpg, but I'd never checked out whether or not I could try RAW for a 3D model. I'll have to check that out soon.
How do u connect your drone to the app?
I have the air 2s
Unfortunately it looks like Ground Station Pro does not support the Air 2s. Here's the link to their list of drones that work with it. www.dji.com/ground-station-pro/supported-product
Great video! Is the Mavic 2 Enterprise integrated into the GS Pro already, too?
Jim, to my knowledge GS Pro will link up with the Enterprise. It's all about the camera for GS Pro, not anything else. When firing up the drone and turning GS Pro on, it should automatically notice which camera is being used, and should display Mavic 2 when connected.
I am so confused with the shooting angle setting! Nobody on youtube and even the gs pro manual explains it well. Guess I 'll just go to the field and experiment with it.
The shooting angle depends on what you're trying to achieve. Shooting 90 degrees straight down will yield good 2D models of an area. You'll get good detail shooting straight down for a 2D Model / Map. But it won't be great for 3D models.
When shooting straight down you won't get all of the detail from let's say the side of a building. If you put the gimbal at 70 degrees instead of 90 degrees you'll now get the sides of a building / structure. What shooting angle works best with what 3D Modeling application? That will depend on which app you're using and how you captured the initial images.
From your question it sounds like I should do a new video on this in the near future, and I will. Quick answer... If you want a 3D model with good detail you'll probably need to not shoot straight down (90 degrees) and do something more like 70 - 75 degrees. It will take experimentation.
One more thing. If you check out Pix4D's capture application and go into their settings you will see that they setup the shooting angle at 70 degrees by default. So that gives you an idea of what Pix4D thinks will work with their modeling software.
Hope this helps a little. :)
@@AZ-Drone Thanks for taking the time help me. But now I am REALLY confused even more! In DJI GS PRO the "shooting angle" has 3options:1- "Parallel to mainpath", 2-Perpendiculat to mainpath", 3-"course aligned". There is also another seperate setting where I can set the "gimbal pitch angle". So you see this where the confusion lies- between the "shooting angle" and "gimbal pitch angle". The DJI manual does a very poor job explaining this. I am pretty clear on the "gimbal pitch angle", it is the "shooting angle" that is confusing me( for example is it a pan angle or angle relative to the horizon)?
@@vracan I'm sorry for adding to the confusion. And yes, it's confusing. I thought you were just talking about gimbal pitch angle. My apologies, and now I will hopefully clear up your confusion and hopefully you'll get it (took me a bit too).
GS Pro used to have only 2 options. Parallel and Perpendicular to the path. Coursed aligned is new with the latest version, and the one I use for doing models. Lets say you make a grid mission and that mission has your drone starting from the south and flying north. It used to be that you could only use parallel or perpendicular.
The Parallel setting would have the drone camera facing North (since you started from the south). The camera would stay pointed to the north to the end of its first line. Getting to the northern most point the drone would then move over to the next line and fly backwards with the camera still facing north! That didn’t work well if you were trying to do a 3D model, as the camera would miss details that you could only get with the camera facing south.
The Perpendicular setting in the same scenario (starting in the south heading north) would have the camera either facing 90 degrees to one side or the other. The drone would fly north, with the camera photographing east or west. After completing its first line to the north it would move to the next photographing in the same perpendicular direction. Once again, this means that the camera missed details in the other direction, and wouldn’t make a good 3D model again.
Finally, with the release of the new GS Pro a few months ago they introduced Course Aligned. In the same scenario, starting south and heading north the camera would be facing North. However, in Course aligned when the drone got to the end of its first line, it would move over to the next line, turn 180 degrees, and head south with the camera pointing south as well. With course aligned you would get images in both directions, giving more details to stuff that it missed in the two previous setups.
For doing good 3D models you want to do a full grid pattern. That way you get details on all sides. In the case of doing a higher end 3D model I actually create 2 missions. One mission going North & South with Course Aligned setup. One mission going East & West with Coursed Aligned again. You then take all of the images from both missions and render your 3D model with them.
For the most detailed 3D models you’ll want to have 2 missions that create a grid pattern. You’ll also probably want to adjust the gimbal pitch angle to something other than 90 degrees (70 as I’d noted before is preferred by the Pix4D app).
I really hope this helps. Bottom line? Parallel and Perpendicular were lacking full coverage of an area. Beyond 2D models I don't see any value in Parallel or Perpendicular. Course Aligned helped fix that issue in GS Pro and is the only setting I use when modeling. For me Parallel & Perpendicular are useless.
Still, what would have been really nice is if they just created a mission type that created a full grid pattern off the bat. Map Pilot does that, Pix4D capture does it, Drone Deploy does it as well. For GS Pro, we have to make 2 missions.
Please let me know if this helped.
@@AZ-Drone Yes this actually helped alot thankyou. I was now able to properly visualise what those 3 settings do and able to see the effects in gs pro much better just by changing the gimbal pitch angle to something else different from 90degrees. I was then able to actually see the effect of those 3 settings alot better. Course aligned is the only one as I can see that is useful to me for both 2D and 3D. I definitely don't want my drone to be flying backwards or sideways. Maybe the other 2 settings are more useful for when you don't want to have the drone flying directly overhead of the mapping area(with gimbal angle not at 90degrees)?
@@vracan I spent a lot of time last year trying to make sense of those two settings. And never came away with a satisfactory answer. The fact that DJI finally put course aligned in is what inspired me to use GS Pro more.
I'm glad my answer helped. My next step was going to be doing a video outside with me behaving as the drone in the different modes. It would have looked like I was line dancing or something, and nobody wants to see that. :)
Have a great day!
I have the same Problem with pix4d
Hey Rich is this app free ?
Ground Station Pro is free, and will only show up in the App Store if you're using an iPad. They do have a couple of "pay for" upgrades that really aren't necessary at all.
Your video opened the door to a much needed tool in my real estate business not to mention a few other areas. I'll be watching you on this and thank you for the thoroughness.
Oh did I mention I put a shortcut to your video on my desktop and flew my first mission yesterday . Any thoughts on utilizing this further with real estate and stitching to bring the footage together as a whole.
Glad you enjoyed the video! There will be more coming!
I think GS Pro can be very useful for making 2D models for larger properties. That gives you a whole new way to envision big acreage ranches, etc. Putting together the 2D models? Photoscan, Pix4D, Drone Deploy. All can create orthomosaic models.
DJI is leaving its competitors in the dust in my opinion. Check out some of my DJI Drone videos, I will greatly appreciate that.
Sorry for the delay in your comment popping up here. It was in CZcams's held for review. Just popped by your channel and I'll be checking out some of your videos today.
Mine wants $10 a month up to $300 a mission. Absolutely no thank you
What are you using that's $10 per month and up to 300 per mission?
That sucks. Apple sucks.