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In this Pros vs. Ams, we're going to do something a little bit different!
In today's video.... we're going to take you through the actual lesson with this amateur... his swing before he started, the problems he was having with his swing, and the progression to his swing being corrected!
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Thank you
You guys are amazing when are you going to get a regular show on the golf channel?
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Another awesome. Thanks
Great, hope I can have my swing analysed too. Great job, keep it up !
This is unquestionably the most impactful golf video Iâve seen on CZcams, or anywhere else for that matter. I bet Iâve watched it at least a half dozen times and have shared it with 10-15 others. Fantastic work guys.
Can't agree more. This would be one of the best instructional video of all times on the game of golf! And covers the hip rotation concept in a manner that has never been explained so well.
With all the golf instruction on CZcams, itâs hard to believe that a single video could be so much more impactful than anything else. Iâve watched a couple thousand golf videos over the last couple years and I keep coming back to this. Iâve never seen anyone address the topic of the details of these motions, at all. Using gears and those movement graphs, it couldnât be clearer. As you rolled through the pro graphs and it all clicked, my mouth was hanging open. I totally misunderstood the golf swing until I watched it. A real holy s$%# moment for me. I literally watched this video, practiced with my camera TWICE, and went out to hit the best golf shots Iâve ever played.
For years people have said my swing looks great and instructors have been all over the place with suggestions. The moment I watched this video, it was OBVIOUS to me that my setup with hips behind my ankles was why I was moving forward and crowding the ball, preventing rotation. Once I started trying to replicate the sequence of back and forward they talk about here in relation to the swing stages, I realized that it was EXACTLY what I do when I throw a baseball. Itâs a way more natural movement than the âweight back on backswing, weight forward on swing,â crap I was doing before.
I want to give you guys a giant hug too. Literally the single most useful video on clarifying the golf swing, by a large margin.
Dumb question about hips behind ankles. I used to keep my weight on my toes until I read Hoganâs book and he recommends weight on your heels. If you guys are getting your hips over your ankles in the setup, where are you putting the weight on your feet?
Anything to help my shitty swing
Thank you so much!!
Call me a f*ckin psycho, but this video almost brought me to tears. A few years trying to fix my over the top, early extension, balloon slicing inconsistencies, and this one video changed all of that....I'm legit speechless. Downloaded this video to my account so I can watch it repeatedly until I perfect it.
Youâre not psycho!! Haha thanks for the kind words
@@AthleticMotionGolf Great video. I'm wondering if you guys have any drills you recommend to start to feel the correct movement in my hips. Thanks!
I feel that... Just so difficult to implement it, 1000 balls at 1/2 speed will help I'm sure
This video is legitimately one of the best golf instruction breakdown videos that I've ever seen. Great job, guys!
thanks!!!
Who and why gave this information a âthumbs downâ? This has to be the most enlightening video on early extension ever!
There will always be haters, no matter how good the content is. Hope AMG doesnât take it personally. They are helping thousands of golfers. The haters donât know what theyâre missing!
Probably other golf instructors seeing lost income đ
Guys, just wanted to say thank you so much for sharing this and all your models in the pro vs am series. Such an important concept that has made a huge difference to my game.
As a nerdy engineer and fellow golfer - this was the best way for me to understand the pelvic turn
great!
SO good, guys. Your content is such a gift to us all. Thanks for your contribution to our great game! đđŒ
One of the most informative concepts Iâve ever seen! I will definitely be working on this with my own swing.
Fantastic content AMG. Minute details equate to huge gains. Wouldn't have thought that the set up and position of the hips/pelvis over the ankles with the increased angles of the shins bones would make such a difference for balance throughout the swing. The attention to detail in the set up, outlined in your video has so many good knock on effects it's a game changer for me. Thanks AMG.
One word, incredible. Show me anyone in the teaching industry that has ever shown anything like this. Awesome.
Thanks so much...we've never seen it discussed before either. :)
Acknowledgement, where acknowledgement is due, Mike Malaska, Eric Cogorno, Jonathon Taylor & Russell Heritage are all golf coaches who have described pelvic rotation this way but I would suggest that the AMG guys give the clearest and most concise description of the âidealâ / pro level pelvic rotation Iâve seen. Their use of visuals and âgearsâ to demonstrate this is just fantastic!
@@steviesynapse thanks brotherđ
Great video. Iâve got high(er) hopes for my next round now. Thankfully, the only thing I caught during lockdown was a bad case of the unmentionables and I needed this reminder not to get lazy with my hips. It reminded me of a previous video you guys did where you talked about rotating inside a barrel.
Amazing. A decade ago one of the top golf instructors in the country was trying to describe to me what he called an internal pelvic rotation. Having watched this video I am positive that this is what he was trying to describe to me. You guys at AMG are doing something revolutionary. Thank you for sharing.
Absolutely outstanding video. AMG has, by a large margin, the best stuff out there. Thank you, AMG!
We really appreciate you watching!
Absolutely amazing well explained video...thank you !!
Agreed!
Agreed !!!
Truly amazing. Blows away any other competition!
Thanks, CZcams suggestion algorithm. You've changed my life!
hahah awesome!
Really enjoy all the training videos. I think they are more intuitive than most all others. Thanks for all your great information, it really helps!
Can't wait to practice this tomorrow. Never thought about rotating around my center of my pelvis. Also, the path that it should take. LOVE the detail. Excited to give it a go tomorrow
Balance and rotation is critical and often ignored by most teaching professionals. This is something I can work on in the gym or on the range. Excellent presentation as usual, thanks boys!
I can't believe how much of a difference this makes! Your tip regarding setting up with ankle bend and forward shin angles (@ 3:37) literally fixed so many of my issues! I was getting 20-30 more yards out of every club, and my consistency was ridiculous. THANK YOU!!
This by far is sharing more insight on correct mechanics than all of the archives I've been digging the past few years. Can't wait to learn more! You guys rock AMG!
This is seriously game changing. I've never thought of the hip rotation like that, definitely have a feel that I can work on
The #1 Most rock solid hip rotation sequence video on CZcams..... props Mike n Shaun!
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for the very kind wordsđ
@@AthleticMotionGolf is the fix for adding shin tilt at address simply bending your knees more in your address posture?
No the fix is ankle bend not knee bend
Probably the best golf interactional video I've ever seen on CZcams!
Wow, thank you bud!đ
I don't know if it's the timing of it for me but I have to agree. This is one of the very best videos I've seen.
Absolutely outstanding video. Thank you, AMG!
You guys have done it again! Great video AMG. Great breakdown by Mike Granato. Keep up the good work fellas!
I'm at the driving range right now, took the time to watch the video with headphones and understand the concepts explained. All I can say is that has completely changed the way I understood my golf swing. My swing changed dramatically for the better and all thanks to these wonderful development of concepts . Thank you so much for this, worth a thousand bucks in lessons. Thank you thank you thank you
Hands down the best explanation of rotation I've seen. This was my exact problem.
Thank you sir!!!!!!
Finally after a lifetime in golf and playing with either a hook or push .......bingo!! Canât thank you enough for this, a simple remedy but after loads of lessons no pro has been able to identify why I made this move.
Great!!! love to hear you're having success
You guys are the real deal. This was beautifully explained. I struggle with early extension and can use this information!
Lightbulb moment for me and other 'John's' out there. I've never heard anything useful or helpful to remedy my early extension. I have now. Thank you đ
glad you enjoyed it :)
Months trying to fix this same problem, and this information was a keystone in putting everything together.
Thank you gentlemen, for taking the time to provide us with these videos, I wish I could express how much it means.
AMG. I watched this video for the first time last night. I said to myself that I would put each step into play week by week. The center hip-line to the ankle set-up was going to be my first task. WOW. TOTALLY AMAZING. I did it today during my round of Golf and I have never hit the ball better. The contact was pure and the distance and accuracy improved greatly. GRATITUDE AMG.
Thank you for this valuable video. I have never seen anything more valuable!
Amazing content that no one else has made available, thanks!
OMG there's hope. I also had given up on trying to fix this exact issue. Thank You AMG.
Don't give up!! :)
67 years old and been playing since I was 10. When I retired 10 years ago, I started a quest to really learn how to play. Spent thousands on lessons and heard over an over again that I had the early extension disease. None of the solutions worked - obviously they never tackled the real problem. I took the drills from this video and shot a 79 on a 143 slope course (from the tips). Thanks for the incredible detailed and logical explanations. Much appreciated!
HOLY COW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Great job!!!!
Great video! I finally understand what happens when you early extends. Awesome! I mimicked the path of what the center of my hip should do and I could not believe it was that easy to get a much better hip rotation. Iâm finally getting rid of the early extension. Thank you!!!
wow. this channel is incredible. such helpful information that literally is changing my swing for the better. keep up the incredible work!
My God... personally, this was the best advice I've heard on CZcams for my swing. This was a complete gamechanger for me. Wow. Thank you so much!
Still working for you? If you don't mind what specifically were your swing thoughts that worked for you. I've been struggling trying to implement this...
@@bradallen9551 imagining my hips moving back and forward on that horizontal line while rotating instantly added 30+ yards on all my clubs. Hit it straighter too.
@@Koolmoto Are you focusing on like a central point in between your two hips that's moving up and down the line?
@@bradallen9551 yes just like the graphic showed in the clip rotating around a center point
This is incredible. Had no idea that fault started so early in the swing.
We see it all the time! It's pretty eye opening to say the least.
So, basically âBend your kneesâ to get some forward lean in your shins so your hips are more over your ankles at setup? Or is it more of a âleaning forwardâ with the lower body to get that forward Bend in the shins?
@@sandylake304 Most golfers already have enough knee bend, John did in this video. It has more to do with some ankle bend and getting that angle to the shinsđ
@Chris Campbell yessir, he would be one of many good examplesđ
Thanks for this I am having a hard time with my lower body moving toward the ball hope to see more of this
Iâve been working on fixing my EE for 6 months (all off-season). Iâve watched probably 50 hours of CZcams videos and spent countless hours practicing with no luck. This video has somehow clicked for me and solved the problem. At setup, I had my butt too far back (away from target line), and at backswing, my left hip turned but my right hip stayed the same (like the wrench analogy). Within 10 mins of watching this video, I was able to make effortless swings without EE. THANK YOU!!!!
Hey Guys, I like this delivery too. I like the original Pros vs Ams, but this is a great change up. It's great to see the progress during the lesson.
We're going to try to do more like this. These take a LONG time to do so hopefully folks enjoy them enough to keep making them.
100% agree with Jerry. Superb
Yes please keep them coming
Wow! This is me. Iâm excited to hit the range. Brilliantly done.
Awesome! Let us know how it goes
I have to say, I love this channel. This is way more in depth than I've ever seen before, I've been struggling with distance for years and no coach was ever able to help me, except this channel, thank you. Have a great day.
I can't tell you how thankful I am for this video haha. It answers the questions I've had a really hard time even putting into words in the past. Thank you! Definitely subscribing.
Wow. This is the most amazing lesson I've seen. Thank you so much. I've been wondering how to solve this in my swing for 2 years. Until I saw this I just didn't think I'd ever be able to open my hips up like I wanted to. I believe I can do this after viewing this lesson - looking forward to practicing this posture and movement!
Great!!
I don't know how many more times I need to hear this, but it keeps coming back. Thanks for the excellent analysis. Hips rotation, side bend, elbow movement, timing, rhythm, weight shift, grip, etc.....whoever invented this game was a psycho.
Hahaha yes. No doubt !
I've been playing golf for over 20 years and this video has changed my game for good.
Great!!!!
That is a great video, good job on such a visual way to explain this!!
Iâm a PGA pro and this is the best breakdown of correct hip movement Iâve seen. Great vid!
For some reason I feel like youâre not a pga pro
@@MC-mi2zf He probably means pga teaching pro
Itâs a joke Cali đđđ
I really enjoyed this format of going through a lesson and seeing the changes and applications. It is very "goal oriented" teaching.
This has to be the most informative and helpful golf video on this platform. Thank you AMG!
I have been playing golf my whole life (well 5 to 45) and this is the most helpful video I have ever seen. I will 100% try this tomorrow at the driving range. Thank you so much for putting this content out and keep up the good work.
Iâve never seen this method of curing this forward thrust. Very clear and easy to understand. Iâm a former PGA Professional and a + handicap golfer. Age 55. Iâm losing distance because I have always thrusted towards the ball and getting older I canât get away with it any longer. Thanks for the informative video. Canât wait to try it out on the rehearsal ground. Lol
OMG!
Amazing!!!
One of the best examples of a successful golf session ever!
He did a great jobđ
This was incredibly insightful. More videos like this please. Great work!
Outstanding video! Iâm going to try to take this concept to the range immediately! But I would be curious to see how you go about training players with a non-traditional swing.
If you want a great head-on view that goes great with this video, watch "The Magic Back Swing Golf Move."
:)
Great tip! Thank you!!
This was fantastic, great video! There seems to be a lot of noise recently about saving your back with a âstack and tiltâ or â Mike Austinâ type swing, have you analyzed anyone successfully utilizing this type of swing? Thoughts?
I tried the stack and tilt. If you want to save your knees, skip this method.
@@randalldavis1068 thanks for the reply.
Mindblowing stuff! Great info and makes total sense - thank you for sharing!!
I think this is one of the best videos i've seen on hip rotation.. such a different concept from what I was trying to do before.. always concentrating on the right hip turning back.. and the left hip opening on transition.. and instead focusing on rotating around the middle of the pelvis. Also the ankle tilt and hip position.. is also a new concept. Thanks..
This video is outstanding! I have suffered from exactly the same issue as âJohnâ for years, leading to severe shanks. Interesting to note that hips directly over ankles at address is better than hips behind ankles. I always exaggerated my hip position backwards at address to counter the forward thrust, but seems this is the reverse of what should be happening!
Same!
When I was taught to setup to the ball, I was told to sit down like I was sitting on a stool. Yikes. Iâve heard Mike and Shaun say itâs like âlooking over a fence,â as you bend from the waist. Whatâs crazy is that Iâve seen 4 or 5 pros and none of them corrected this super basic flaw in my setup that was clearly the cause of my standing up at impact, crowding the ball, flipping, and lack of rotation.
Thank you for your excellent video. It confirms and reenforces earlier swing thoughts from a drill I was given 10 years ago.
For the right hander - Set up (without a club in hand) with your back to a smooth wall that is parallel to the target line. Take a position so that your butt cheeks 2 inches away from the wall.
There are three moves:
1. Rotate the hips so that the right butt cheek brushes the wall from right to left - ie. towards the target.
2. When you reach a full turn of the hips, swing the left butt to the wall (like a closing door) while the right cheek remains stationary.
3. Rotate the hips brushing the left butt cheek away from the target (left to right).
I could never measure it, but is suspect that the drill also gave me those four inches of right to left weight shift you mention in another video.
All that brushing for walls with butt cheeks may sound a bit weird, but a little embarrassment in the cause of building a strong repeating golf swing is a small price to pay.
All the best. RO
This was incredible guys
Massively eye opening for me. Canât wait until surgery recovery is over and I can put this to practice. Saving the video, and definitely subbed. Thank you so much.
Chubbs was right in Happy Gilmore!! "It's all in the hips!!!"
Great video. It seems like "tilted shins" is a result of getting your hips and ankles aligned properly as opposed to a conscious effort to add more knee bend. Also, in his setup, he probably felt more weight in his toes after adjustment.
thanks!
Why the toes? I would think to keep the hips back you should feel it in the heels?
@@joehalwax8770 hips forwrd, more weight on the toes
Hi this is The Common Golfer's. Iv just set up a new channel and after seeing your video it as help me hit the ball further and straighter
Hats off to you guys for an incredibly informative and educational video! Thank you!
I keep saying âhipsâ when it appears it is the pelvis staying back and swing around it ?
Not sure the terminology matters as long as you're moving this wayđ
Not I think this is important. The hips don't rotate, they move in response to actions of the femoral head.
I think it's easier to "rotate"by concentrating on the part of the anatomy that's involved. This, for me, an old timer with a Titanium semi-pelvis, makes opening the hips and the pelvic tilt a natural opposite & equal response to what the clubbed is doing. Thoughts? pk
Peter Kennedy
I think the point of the video is that the hips donât âopen.â If the sacrum is stationary, and the hip joint is moved in what is perceived as a rearward direction, the fact that it is connected to the sacrum by the hip bones means the hip joint will be rotating around the sacrum. If the sacrum is stationary, the hip joint cannot move straight back, whatever nature of the hip joint or the force or motion applied to it. If you attached a ball to a string attached to a stationary point, and applied force to the ball, in any direction other than one toward the fixed point or directly away from it, the ball will rotate around the fixed point. The hip joints rotate around the sacrum all while the whole apparatus moves to the right and then the left.
Actually, while it might be better if AMG called the pelvis the pelvis consistently, and didnât sometimes call it the hips, the video makes it damn clear what they are talking about, so no harm, no foul. Not all golfers are medical men, and I bet most people call that area down below the waist the hips, not the pelvis.
@@apfhugh4446 exactly, although the "whole apparatus moves to the right" as you say is just barely to the right (see pro's movements starting at 9:12ish). They could put up a skeleton first and show "mid sacrum" so that is their midline term from there on out.
He gained 9 (NINE!?) MPH on his swing in one session... That's incredible.
yessir he did :)
Best golf instructional video I have ever watched! And I have watched thousands of them over the years. This addressed my issue perfectly! A million thank youâs!!!
This is the type of instruction that makes the most impact. Love the detail that is captured and the method you use to transmit it to us students.
Thanks gents.
Youre very welcome
Never did i realize I was doing the same setup at address as John was. Thank you guys. Great video. đ
Nearly my entire golf career Iâve been flippy and struggled with flipping and the downswings never felt very good. This has blown my mind tremendously and has likely changed my golf swing dramatically in the right direction thanks!!!
This looks like an updated version of the same video I watched 6 months ago, and a nice update. Truly great instruction and breakdown of the swing by focusing on the hips. Really enjoyed it. The comparisons to the pro's provides a great benchmark and frankly a lot of credibility to the instruction. Congratulations and thank you.
Phenomenal footage that changed my delivery of the club to ball immediately! Thanks guys!
Never seen or heard anyone teaching the center of the pelvis movements. This is really good stuff...Keep it up!
wow! amazing video guys. You keep managing to blow my mind everytime. Love the imagery as I've been working on hip movement for a while and this cements the feels.
Awesome! Thank you!
Thank you for this excellent instruction.
FABULOUS lesson on many fronts! Great lesson on how to move the hips and great lesson on how the correct concept is foundational to correct movement. Thanks!
This video was super helpful, I love the breakdown
Perfectly done video!
What an awesome presentation really found eye opening insights on backswing and hip movement! Thank you so much
I have been really struggling with my hips in the swing, this is the first video Iâve seen that seems to address exactly what my problem is and present it in such a clear way
The diagrams are excellent. So much more detailed than mere slow motion replays of an actual person.
thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!
Great video. I've been struggling with this all my life. It shows up in the long game. Looking forward to working on it tomorrow on the practice range.
This was such an informative video to watch, especially the comparisons to tour players, thank you.
Thank you. I have been having this problem for years and couldn't figure out why my hips were moving too much forward during my swing.
The best swing video Iâve ever seen.Period!
I watched this video for so many times and finally I figure it out how the hips should move in the swing, and I realize this correct hip motion related to how to shallow out the swing. Thank you for your 3D teaching!
Watched 2 of your videos and they resolved the most wanted questions for a long time to me, legendary.
I've come back to this video several times I really appreciate your content! Thanks guys!
I know! I've watched it like 6x! Lol
Holy smokes.I can't put into words how much this helped me.Thank you
Great info and adds to what Iâm learning with my new coach! Now I see more of why he has my bum up right near a chair back to get my right back pocket back! Glad to see my lateral movement toward the target is not necessarily bad and interesting it can start during the end of the backswing. Wow. I assume keeping the head still is the key there.
This was phenomenal!
Very informative. Thank you and hope to see you down the road.
I never really understood early extension, but was always told i do it.
Im a scratch -2 handicapper (stupid new system). And the high right shot has always been my nemesis.
A friend sent me this vid... 25 balls at the range and my swing transformed.
I shot a 66 first round with it! Then followed it up with a 70 (having nuked my first shot of the day through the fairway into trouble and made a 7!)
I feel like the video has been the most important change in my golf swing ever!!
Thank you
Clearly that was one of the analysis of rotation Iâve ever seen. This video is a real keeper. Thanks
Shin angle! I've been fighting my takeaway, but this frees everything up. Love the wireframe analysis.