Love watching when boxing was about boxing. Terrible that these guys were being robbed blind by their managers but as for the sport, this is as pure as it can get.
That was a good fight. Terrell hugged Cleveland Williams a bit too much in my opinion. I had Williams ahead of a couple of rounds, but that's just my opinion...
Williams stopped Terrell the first time they met, so this time out Terrell went overboard with the spoiling tactics to nullify Williams power. It's didn't win Terrell any new fans but it won him the fight...
@@kufujitsu Yes--and the referee for the first Williams-Terrell fight was Sonny Liston, i believe! Liston boxed an exhibition with Terrell (youtube) but said he wouldn't give him a title shot because "he'd hug me more than my wife."
Cleveland Williams was like Ken Norton - he avoided eye contact at the referee’s call-in. Unlike the intimidators, like Liston, Foreman, Holmes’s & Tyson.
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I hate watching Terrell "fight". It's just an endless parade of cheap shots, headbutts, holding and hanging on while the other guy tries his best to box.
They absolutely robbed williams here. Multiple headbutts, constant hugging and even throwing in a flurry of cheapshots while the ref tries to separate them. Terrell should have been DQd by the end of the fight and me and my brother both agree the big cat won on points regardless.
OMG Clinching much, I can not believe that's okay? Erine Terrell, just wore out Cleveland Williams, by hanging on him to wear him out. That's the long and short version of the match.
Draw Terrel was staggered many times during the fight. The first judge had it right The big CAT was ahead bad decision seriously 😳.! They gave it to me younger man for no reason apparently happens a loy in boxing.🥊🥊🇺🇸👏🧐
Terrell was not entertaining but he was an extremely effective "negative" fighter ( a fighter who excels at shutting down an opponents offense) . I would liken him to more recent heavyweight Jon Ruiz who never looked spectacular himself but made his opposition have their worst performances.
Good afternoon this is not the first time l am watching this bout. The ref did a reslly poor job .Terrell hitting while the ref is trying to break them plus holding all night he should have penalised. Williams was robbed.
Look at the physique of Williams in that bout and imagine what he lost when he was shot with .357 magnum at point blank range. A true warrior to earn a title shot after his recovery on Nov. 14 1966 against Muhammad Ali. At least Terrell fought a Prime Williams unlike Ali.
Ali is very fortunate he got the watered down version of Cleveland Williams. Even his( Ali) team later admitted that Williams in his absolute prime years would have been real trouble for Ali. Style wise it would have been interesting because Williams before that magnum blast took away several feet of his intestines, damaged other organs and caused him to lose over 50 pounds of muscle mass, was a pretty nimble footed athlete for such a big man. The big Cat had a very nice first step and was able to torque and unleash that hybrid hook/ uppercut with impressive speed. Ali had a bad tendency throughout his ENTIRE career to have his guard totally out of position after he jabbed. His right hand would drop continously his waist leaving his jaw totally exposed. He dropped his right every single time he threw his jab, which is why he could never stop Fraziers hook. And he was open for a straight right over the top of his jab because he routinely dropped his left after he jabbed. The problem was very few fighters in the 1st phase of his career were smart enough and quick enough to time Ali and exploit those flaws. Williams in his best days was one of the men who could have because he was a sound boxer with good fundamentals, tall, rangy with good legs and above average handspeed.He also had an under-rated jab. Ali could not defend against A good world class jab as Ken Norton demonstrated in all 3 of their fights especially the 1st one. Had their bout been when Williams was top notch I personally feel that would be an evenly matched bout with Ali maybe being slightly favored. Muhammad In those days got dropped and Stunned badly by lesser punchers than Williams. His chin wasn't as durable as it would later become in his second phase. As for Williams Physique in his prime? Phenomenal!
@@fitzgeraldanthony9333 Ali couldn't defend against a World Class jab? Try Liston and Foreman best in the business, am a Williams fan but there is no comparison to Ali.
When Ernie fought Ali,it looked to me he was scared of him.In their prime guys like Louis,Walcott,Marciano,List on,Williams,Foreman,Ellis,Quarry,Frazier,Shavers would have easily ko d Terrell.
The decision went Williams way, a Ali bout was expected to be sanctioned to determine Liston next logical title challenger. The Ali team did not want to face this version of Williams to why they did everything to avoid a title fight, until Williams found himself fighting for life after being shot with .357 magnum. Then Ali fought Williams, this is why for me Ali is nothing until he fought this version of Williams. He was shit scared
Why should Ali fight Williams when he had a chance to fight Liston for the title? Plus if you think that Ali - Clay as he was then known - was afraid to fight Williams, you’re crazy. Williams didn’t even beat Terrell in this fight - you really think he stood a chance against Clay?! Get real. Liston destroyed Williams twice and Ali destroyed Liston twice. Williams didn’t stand a chance against Ali. Never. Not in his dreams. Williams was much too slow.
@@stevenyourke7901 yes he did and Williams was considered the next challenger before Liston. Ali the show boating to force Liston to accept a title fight was good on his part. Ali was knocked down by a missile from Henry Cooper. This is why Williams had a good chance, his management & training team new it. Williams didn’t get the decision over Terrell but he shouldn’t have been placed in a rematch as he knocked him out in the 7th round a year earlier.
@@clevelandwilliams5922 Liston had already beaten Williams twice, KO’s in early rounds. Liston had nothing to prove against Williams. Liston was clearly the superior fighter. So what of Clay was knocked down by Cooper? He stopped Cooper in four rounds anyway. If Liston couldn’t beat Ali, nobody then alive could beat Ali. Certainly not a slow footed fighter like Williams. No way!
@@clevelandwilliams5922 Ring Magazine ratings for heavyweights in 1962: Sonny Liston, champion; Floyd Patterson #1 contender; Cassius Clay, #2 contender; followed by (3) Doug z Jones, (4) I fanatic Johannsen (5) Zoe’s Folley, (6) Cleveland Williams. Williams didn’t even rank in the top five in 1962. In 1963, Cassius Clay ranked first after Liston, Williams ranked fourth. Doug Jones and Ernie Terrell, both ranked higher than Williams in 1963. In 1964, Clay was champion and Williams was still ranked fourth.
@@stevenyourke7901 oh your looking at Ring Magazine at the end of 63. Williams by the time his fight with Terrell was ranked 2nd. Keep believing your own justification for any reason
just like in so many fights the referee was totally incapable of reffing. terrell should have been disqualified for holding. he should have joined wrestling.
![George Chuvalo vs. Ernie Terrell [HW.[Nov.1st. 1965] The Bout That Chuvalo Won. [146-142 CHUVALO]](/img/n.gif)
Love watching when boxing was about boxing. Terrible that these guys were being robbed blind by their managers but as for the sport, this is as pure as it can get.
Leotis Martin improved his record to 6-0 with a 4th round TKO of Monte McCoy (3-2) on the undercard.
That was a good fight. Terrell hugged Cleveland Williams a bit too much in my opinion. I had Williams ahead of a couple of rounds, but that's just my opinion...
Never watched the fight but I agree with you.
I also had Williams the winner 6-4.
6 - 4 Williams
That's Why Ali Called Terrell The Octopus Because Of His Smothering Style. Lots Of Fighters Didn't Want To Fight Him Because Of That.
Ernie Terrell punched and held, led with his head and clinched the whole fight.
That's all he ever would do or could do until the day Muhammad Ali taught him a lesson he never forgot. R.I.P. Muhammad Ali.
Williams stopped Terrell the first time they met, so this time out Terrell went overboard with the spoiling tactics to nullify Williams power.
It's didn't win Terrell any new fans but it won him the fight...
@@kufujitsu Yes--and the referee for the first Williams-Terrell fight was Sonny Liston, i believe! Liston boxed an exhibition with Terrell (youtube) but said he wouldn't give him a title shot because "he'd hug me more than my wife."
@@kufujitsu Williams got robbed against Terrell Williams should have won
@@kufujitsu not to mention Cleveland williams injured both hands in the bout with young jack Johnson before this one, cleve was attacked with a chair
That being said I too thought the Big Cat did enough to win this.
Williams knocked the iron chinned Terell out in their first fight .
These days Terrell would’ve been DQ’d for hugging lol
Um you do realize Tyson Fury holds just a much right. Do you even watch boxing kid?
@@googlemyself4091 That is simply not true. Tyson Fury also gets KO's. Terrell does not.
Can you please find more Cleveland Williams fights?
That's Why Ali Called Terrell The Octopus Because Of His Smothering Style. Lots Of Fighters Didn't Want To Fight Him Because Of That.
Cleveland great fighter! All fighters have fight against him said him hurt a lot!
great find!
Nah 8 ounce glove is crazy
Ernie “What’s my name” Terrell
Terrell “The octopus” pisses me off to watch him hang on Williams push wrestle and take cheap shots as the ref has to pry Ernie off ...
LOL,... I thought it was just me. Terrell would hold and take cheap shots.
Ernie made a career of doing this... hang on and quick hitter off the break
Cleveland Williams was like Ken Norton - he avoided eye contact at the referee’s call-in.
Unlike the intimidators, like Liston, Foreman, Holmes’s & Tyson.
Ernie makes himself hard to like with all that hugging
Don't make them like this anymore.
They really don’t.
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I hate watching Terrell "fight". It's just an endless parade of cheap shots, headbutts, holding and hanging on while the other guy tries his best to box.
agreed
Hahaha 😂 Ernie tries to slow the other fighter down with cheap shots 😜 . They can do it back let him know how it feels 😜
He was backed by the mob ,that's how he got most of his wins , the Chicago mob.
They absolutely robbed williams here. Multiple headbutts, constant hugging and even throwing in a flurry of cheapshots while the ref tries to separate them. Terrell should have been DQd by the end of the fight and me and my brother both agree the big cat won on points regardless.
Chuvalo robbed....Williams robbed.....you just can’t win fairly against Ernie unless you’re Ali.....
Pardon me unless you have the fruit of islam to threaten your opponents crew for you.
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OMG Clinching much, I can not believe that's okay? Erine Terrell, just wore out Cleveland Williams, by hanging on him to wear him out. That's the long and short version of the match.
Terrell used his head like a battering ram. Dreadful. Always like Dunfy's announcing. Class act.
Ernie should have pursued a singing career. He was a much better singer than he was a boxer.
Draw Terrel was staggered many times during the fight. The first judge had it right The big CAT was ahead bad decision seriously 😳.! They gave it to me younger man for no reason apparently happens a loy in boxing.🥊🥊🇺🇸👏🧐
Terrell was not entertaining but he was an extremely effective "negative" fighter ( a fighter who excels at shutting down an opponents offense) . I would liken him to more recent heavyweight Jon Ruiz who never looked spectacular himself but made his opposition have their worst performances.
is this fight before the state police shot Williams in his stomach or after he was seriously shot
Yes, this is before the shooting.
Williams was a better fighter here, no doubt !
sonny liston apparently the ref in the first fight won by willians ko7
Good afternoon this is not the first time l am watching this bout. The ref did a reslly poor job .Terrell hitting while the ref is trying to break them plus holding all night he should have penalised. Williams was robbed.
Cleveland had the punch but was too passive
He visto pocas peleas de Ernie Terrell pero en toda el se la pasa mas tiempo agarrando al contrincante que en combate. Son aburridas sus peleas...
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Look at the physique of Williams in that bout and imagine what he lost when he was shot with .357 magnum at point blank range. A true warrior to earn a title shot after his recovery on Nov. 14 1966 against Muhammad Ali. At least Terrell fought a Prime Williams unlike Ali.
Look at the physique of RUBIN HURRICANE CARTER, there’s no comparison.
@@THEDONSTR8Fightah76 Superb. His weight & Height difference made him look a lot stockier and built. But Williams was on another scale
Ali is very fortunate he got the watered down version of Cleveland Williams. Even his( Ali) team later admitted that Williams in his absolute prime years would have been real trouble for Ali. Style wise it would have been interesting because Williams before that magnum blast took away several feet of his intestines, damaged other organs and caused him to lose over 50 pounds of muscle mass, was a pretty nimble footed athlete for such a big man. The big Cat had a very nice first step and was able to torque and unleash that hybrid hook/ uppercut with impressive speed. Ali had a bad tendency throughout his ENTIRE career to have his guard totally out of position after he jabbed. His right hand would drop continously his waist leaving his jaw totally exposed. He dropped his right every single time he threw his jab, which is why he could never stop Fraziers hook.
And he was open for a straight right over the top of his jab because he routinely dropped his left after he jabbed. The problem was very few fighters in the 1st phase of his career were smart enough and quick enough to time Ali and exploit those flaws. Williams in his best days was one of the men who could have because he was a sound boxer with good fundamentals, tall, rangy with good legs and above average handspeed.He also had an under-rated jab. Ali could not defend against A good world class jab as Ken Norton demonstrated in all 3 of their fights especially the 1st one. Had their bout been when Williams was top notch I personally feel that would be an evenly matched bout with Ali maybe being slightly favored. Muhammad In those days got dropped and Stunned badly by lesser punchers than Williams. His chin wasn't as durable as it would later become in his second phase.
As for Williams Physique in his prime? Phenomenal!
He beat liston
@@fitzgeraldanthony9333 Ali couldn't defend against a World Class jab? Try Liston and Foreman best in the business, am a Williams fan but there is no comparison to Ali.
he made this linked only aswell lol
Terrell must have been very young here ?
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Big Cat ever beat anyone?
He actually knocked out Terrell in their first fight... Not in this one obviously... 😁
Williams biggest wins over Alex Miteff, Dick Richardson, Ernie Terrell (1rst go around) John Holman and Billy Daniels
Williams beat 82 boxers and knocked out about 62 of them
When Ernie fought Ali,it looked to me he was scared of him.In their prime guys like Louis,Walcott,Marciano,List on,Williams,Foreman,Ellis,Quarry,Frazier,Shavers would have easily ko d Terrell.
Terrell was not a good fighter in my opinion. He had height & reach but held to much. Cat should have knocked him out. Terrell was sorry to me.
Williams knocked out Terrell in the first fight in round 1, but in the rematch williams just got robbed
Both guys are built like basketball players. Not boxers. Too tall
Not The Big Cat.
Dos golpes y se agarran, dos golpes y se agarran ,..., y asi hasta el infinito. Una pelea fastidiosa...
I don’t know what this says but I’ll give you a heart.
Totalmente terrell seria descalificado hoy en dia
@@THEDONSTR8Fightah76 Two blows and they catch, two blows and they catch, ..., and so on ad infinitum. An annoying fight ...
Right
Cling the whole fight.. Poor choice.
The decision went Williams way, a Ali bout was expected to be sanctioned to determine Liston next logical title challenger. The Ali team did not want to face this version of Williams to why they did everything to avoid a title fight, until Williams found himself fighting for life after being shot with .357 magnum. Then Ali fought Williams, this is why for me Ali is nothing until he fought this version of Williams. He was shit scared
Why should Ali fight Williams when he had a chance to fight Liston for the title? Plus if you think that Ali - Clay as he was then known - was afraid to fight Williams, you’re crazy. Williams didn’t even beat Terrell in this fight - you really think he stood a chance against Clay?! Get real. Liston destroyed Williams twice and Ali destroyed Liston twice. Williams didn’t stand a chance against Ali. Never. Not in his dreams. Williams was much too slow.
@@stevenyourke7901 yes he did and Williams was considered the next challenger before Liston. Ali the show boating to force Liston to accept a title fight was good on his part. Ali was knocked down by a missile from Henry Cooper. This is why Williams had a good chance, his management & training team new it. Williams didn’t get the decision over Terrell but he shouldn’t have been placed in a rematch as he knocked him out in the 7th round a year earlier.
@@clevelandwilliams5922 Liston had already beaten Williams twice, KO’s in early rounds. Liston had nothing to prove against Williams. Liston was clearly the superior fighter. So what of Clay was knocked down by Cooper? He stopped Cooper in four rounds anyway. If Liston couldn’t beat Ali, nobody then alive could beat Ali. Certainly not a slow footed fighter like Williams. No way!
@@clevelandwilliams5922 Ring Magazine ratings for heavyweights in 1962: Sonny Liston, champion; Floyd Patterson #1 contender; Cassius Clay, #2 contender; followed by (3) Doug z Jones, (4) I fanatic Johannsen (5) Zoe’s Folley, (6) Cleveland Williams. Williams didn’t even rank in the top five in 1962.
In 1963, Cassius Clay ranked first after Liston, Williams ranked fourth. Doug Jones and Ernie Terrell, both ranked higher than Williams in 1963.
In 1964, Clay was champion and Williams was still ranked fourth.
@@stevenyourke7901 oh your looking at Ring Magazine at the end of 63. Williams by the time his fight with Terrell was ranked 2nd. Keep believing your own justification for any reason
just like in so many fights the referee was totally incapable of reffing. terrell should have been disqualified for holding. he should have joined wrestling.