@@delightfulsunny that’s just your experience. Those are extremely common and present in almost every house/apartment in Brazil, a country of over 200 million, and I’ve heard that they are also very popular in China, the most populous country in the world at over 1.4 billion people. That means that over 20% of the world deals with this type of key on a regular basis, or have at least dealt with it before.
You're an evil, evil man. Now you have me hooked on this hobby. What's worse, I can hear your voice in my head as I'm picking each pin: "click out of 1, nothing on 2, click out of 3, ..."
The first time I managed to open a crucifix lock, I instantly got the pins locked in the 90° clockwise position. The key would no longer fit the lock. Haha, panic set in for a second. I had used a single raking method to open the 🔐 lock. Fortunately, I managed to reverse the pick with the same raking strategy, but in reverse. Anti CW. The tool you have is amazing, bet it isn't cheap. Love your content. Both you LPL and Lock noob from the UK 🇬🇧 (where I live) got me into picking. Love your work. Your passion for locks is amazing 👏. Chris
Hey @LockPickingLawyer. Thanks to your videos, I picked 4-5 cupboard locks at work that we had no keys. Didn't have any proper tools, so I made a tension wrench and a pick from paperclips. That was one fun day. And I also bought the pick set from video 318 to get me started on a new hobby. :D Edit: Just to mention, my boss asked me to try, since I opened one that we took off from one of the cupboards.
I have done that a couple of times in my office. I have used a wrong key to bump or rake the locks using the key as a tensioning tool. I had a good laugh, when someone came to ask me to open her cupboard with the master key she had heard I have.
A few years back someone smashed in an outside window one weekend and stole a bunch of stuff from a locked office in the plant where I worked. The management considered that the prime suspect was the owner of the office, since the door had been locked and "nobody else had a key" (other than the janitors, guards, maintenance staff, and secretaries). They didn't seem to notice that the window had been smashed in, and when it was pointed out to them, they wanted to charge the office owner for destroying company property. Moral: don't expect even rudimentary intelligence from office management.
Chinese manufacturers use these Cruciform style barrels quite extensively on cheap domestic wall safes and incorporated into a number of door cylinder and padlock designs too. Good for honing your SPP skills. A rake makes it all too easy for picking practice, but excellent for field use.
I got it! I've been racking my brain about who your voice sounds like and I finally got it. Keep in mind, I've never seen your face on any of your videos. If anyone has seen the TV Show "Fresh Off The Boat", listen to the father's voice. The LockPickingLawyer sounds just like him.
Until recently tools like these were not easy to obtain legally and didn't exist in online stores, now thanks to the Chinese, there are countless amounts of cheaply made, low tolerance lock-manipulating tools to choose from. A good locksmith still won't blame his cheap Chinese tools! LOL
I would just like to say that due to your videos i bought myself some lockpicks and am trying to learn picking myself. Currently browsing ebay for some cheap lock cores so i can practice.
Wow! I used to live in China where many apartments had metal doors that unlock with a cruciform key. I always felt so safe. Know I am beginning to wonder. 😅😅
Few manufacturers ever brought to market, a design that included a proprietary tool to circumnavigate the mechanism. The rest of the world just loves a challenge! ♥
Wow. I have a very old version of one of these. I've tried for 30 years to get a new key made for it. Not a single Smith has ever been able to make one.
I had a heck of respect of these keys and never considered picking such locks. But as usual it just takes the right tool. If I won't be seen soon I was probably caught fiddling with the lockers at my bank.
During WW2 in some of the German POW camps they started to use these locks. I'm not sure if they were difficult for POWs to pick, but they never successfully duplicated the keys... At least not for a long time.
I guess for ordinary uses this core is alright coz lpl said it is time consuming and also that tool is very unique and not everybody has one of them. My steering wheel lock is this type.
Thanks for the review. To SPP this lock is a pretty time consuming challenge for any enthusiast. Have you ever tried using the more commonly purchased simple 4-legged wire rake to open one of these locks? I also found a snapper and electric rake doesn't have much luck on this type of lock either.
Wonder if its possible to make it in such a way that you also have to press down the end of the chamber to get rotation so that you can't turn it without some third or second tool in there
Sure they could, but that would cost extra. The average consumer would look at a similiar product without the added security feature and save themselves a small amount and purchase the cheaper. Example ... Who would ever buy a warded lock to protect anything ? The answer is someone who doesn't know better and wants an inexpensive option.
Not unless they're willing to consider the cost involved in completely redesigning a globally exported mass produced Chineseum Landfillium lock for the sake of slightly improved security?
even if it did have one, like i believe the schlage primus has, you still would only need 2 tools at one time. as long as you hold your tension, the pins would stay picked, and you could press that pin at the end of the chamber. you could also maybe do it before you start raking so that it turns when you're done.
First... GREAT channel! Love your videos! Great job! Second... Is there a lock you haven't been able to pick? Third... With all your lock picking knowledge you should start your own lock company / Brand! I have no doubt it would be one bass ass crazy hard to pick lock that I would spend my hard earned bucks on! You could call it LPL Lock Co.? lol just a thought.
I have been watching your videos for awhile. Very interesting. While you do all your lock picking in your shop, I wonder what picking locks in real life on the streets would look like. What kind of tools would you carry? If you came across a lock you were not prepared for but needed to pick? If you came across a lock in the open public? In no way am I a lock picker nor do I ever want to be one. I am just curious what you would have to do to change your dynamics in what you do. Legally of coarse. It would certainly add another layer of your videos.
Hi, I enjoy your videos and I am a big fan either, I would like to ask for some tips. Is this tool picklocker set, can be fit for lock doors like you did in padlock? Thanks in advance for your tips, cheers Mate!!!!
seems to me that if you had something similar to this, but had 5 or 6 pins per side instead of 3 or 4 pins and then added even a single spool or serrated pin per side it'd end up being pretty damn secure
I have one of these locks with a see-through body. I picked it half way and now I can't put the keys back in. Kinda stuck... but hopefully I'll figure it out.
Just about to watch this vid,thanks...when youre saying 'nothing on 1,2,3' etc is that saying thT those pins/wafers whatever are not binding anymore? Sorry if daft question. Only new to picking last couple weeks and just got my first few picks and clear lock🙂
Yes, he means that those pins are not bound & not giving any feedback. Once he encounters a binding pin, he lifts it until it clicks & then moves on to find the next binding pin.
@@doublejaylar thanks for explaining.thats what i figured but wanted to make sure. Want to get a few more locks myself so can practice. Had a small stanley padlock at home with no key and got it open once raking but cant since then😖 drivinge nuts.awkward key way and so little room in there but no matter how much i try it cant get it:( dont even know if any security pins.think there mite be cus sometimes feels like counter rotation but i dont have enuf experience. Anyway thanks for reply👍
Is there a Strong lock that has no fast method? I mean a pickable lock but one that takes a long time to open even for you! You have taken away the security I felt knowing all that I cherish is "securely locked up lol"! but seriously I can't sleep. shhhh! did u hear that? I think someone's round back
You dont need to worry about a lock he cant pick. Very few are as good5 bosnian bill or lpl. A few more even pick at all. Its really a decent quality with lots of resistance to physical attacks that you should look for.
The Bowley is very secure and relatively cheap compared to a lot of other high security locks with its degree of pick resistance, it's still pretty damned expensive though. One thing to be aware of though, is that anyone with experience in practical security will tell you that for most applications, picking is a very very unlikely attack vector, and it's not something you should worry about that much unless you are concerned with covert entry/access.
Has anyone else noticed that comments for one video will show up on another video? Not like a genuine comment that is referencing a related video, but actual comments that were left on one video at a specific date showing up in the comments for another video on another date. Sometimes by different usernames? I just had this happen and im curious.
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Ooh a 3 minute video it must be a good lock.... Picks twice in 3 minutes with 2 different tools.
It took him one of them talking about the lock. One minute for the long way around and 10 seconds for the short way.
Very interesting 4 way rake - I've never seen that tool before.
Woah.. mind blown. I wonder how expansive that tool is given so few locks are in that configuration.
What is the name of it??
@@delightfulsunny that’s just your experience. Those are extremely common and present in almost every house/apartment in Brazil, a country of over 200 million, and I’ve heard that they are also very popular in China, the most populous country in the world at over 1.4 billion people. That means that over 20% of the world deals with this type of key on a regular basis, or have at least dealt with it before.
You're an evil, evil man. Now you have me hooked on this hobby. What's worse, I can hear your voice in my head as I'm picking each pin: "click out of 1, nothing on 2, click out of 3, ..."
My "voice in my head" (the other voices I usually ignore) is the "we'll be using top of the keyway tension" when I look at a padlock.
The first time I managed to open a crucifix lock, I instantly got the pins locked in the 90° clockwise position. The key would no longer fit the lock. Haha, panic set in for a second. I had used a single raking method to open the 🔐 lock. Fortunately, I managed to reverse the pick with the same raking strategy, but in reverse. Anti CW.
The tool you have is amazing, bet it isn't cheap.
Love your content. Both you LPL and Lock noob from the UK 🇬🇧 (where I live) got me into picking. Love your work. Your passion for locks is amazing 👏.
Chris
And the key doubles as a screwdriver.
I wonder if you could tension it with a small screwdriver
With Masterlock, a screwdriver doubles as a key!
wrong...it doubles as a phillips' screwdriver.
Hey @LockPickingLawyer. Thanks to your videos, I picked 4-5 cupboard locks at work that we had no keys. Didn't have any proper tools, so I made a tension wrench and a pick from paperclips. That was one fun day. And I also bought the pick set from video 318 to get me started on a new hobby. :D
Edit: Just to mention, my boss asked me to try, since I opened one that we took off from one of the cupboards.
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I have done that a couple of times in my office. I have used a wrong key to bump or rake the locks using the key as a tensioning tool. I had a good laugh, when someone came to ask me to open her cupboard with the master key she had heard I have.
Except next time something gets "misplaced" in the office, you will be the first choice when searching for suspects :)
MasterBata I have thought of that and I’ve made it known, that the locks are jokes, that anyone can open with almost no skill whatsoever.
A few years back someone smashed in an outside window one weekend and stole a bunch of stuff from a locked office in the plant where I worked. The management considered that the prime suspect was the owner of the office, since the door had been locked and "nobody else had a key" (other than the janitors, guards, maintenance staff, and secretaries). They didn't seem to notice that the window had been smashed in, and when it was pointed out to them, they wanted to charge the office owner for destroying company property.
Moral: don't expect even rudimentary intelligence from office management.
I'm very surprised that this style lock is popular enough for someone to mass produce what looks like a ... quality rake/tool for.
Chinese manufacturers use these Cruciform style barrels quite extensively on cheap domestic wall safes and incorporated into a number of door cylinder and padlock designs too. Good for honing your SPP skills. A rake makes it all too easy for picking practice, but excellent for field use.
I live in South America and I must say, almost every house has one of those locks in their door, in addition to one standard lock
@@rickloterio true. Here in São Paulo - Brasil, almost all houses have at least three keys, all of those with those cross key format.
@@Zodliness field use ?😭😭
I found one of these keys once when I was a kid! Never had any idea that they did things like this.
We had these Keys to lock our gate and garages always
Would love to hear your quick comments for a noob like me. Thank you in advance. Your videos are super addictive.
Definitely was expecting that to be a bit harder haha. Can always tell the lock quality just from the video length 🤣
LockPicking Lawyer: Well, that was a little time-consuming!
Me: *checks clock* It took you 60 seconds.....
I got it! I've been racking my brain about who your voice sounds like and I finally got it. Keep in mind, I've never seen your face on any of your videos. If anyone has seen the TV Show "Fresh Off The Boat", listen to the father's voice. The LockPickingLawyer sounds just like him.
Looks like Bill may have brought his attack cat for the recent collaboration.
I also saw the scratch on LPL's hand so Bill must have brought his cat with
You are a serious professional at what you do, LockPickingLawyer!
i was wondering how do you pick the four ways lock and was thinking that is a very secure lock but then... never mind
Until recently tools like these were not easy to obtain legally and didn't exist in online stores, now thanks to the Chinese, there are countless amounts of cheaply made, low tolerance lock-manipulating tools to choose from. A good locksmith still won't blame his cheap Chinese tools! LOL
id like to see the home depot key lady try to make a duplicate of that one lol
This is a LPL and today I'll be opening this crazy lock and to make things a little challenging, I'll be using a supplied key!
I would just like to say that due to your videos i bought myself some lockpicks and am trying to learn picking myself. Currently browsing ebay for some cheap lock cores so i can practice.
"it is a bit of a time consuming process" yet picked in under 90 seconds by our resident legal counsel.
Fantastic job my friend👍😊👍😊😎👌
I just bought this exact same padlock today and this popped up in my recommended vids.
Wow! I used to live in China where many apartments had metal doors that unlock with a cruciform key. I always felt so safe. Know I am beginning to wonder. 😅😅
It would be nice to see a continuation of the ramset series
Goes to show that whatever key or core they come up with, a special tool is not too far off in the making.
Few manufacturers ever brought to market, a design that included a proprietary tool to circumnavigate the mechanism.
The rest of the world just loves a challenge! ♥
I can see your cat gave you a fun greeting
Nice to see you back in my subscription list and notifications.
Things i learned from this video.
50 seconds of SPP = A little time consuming.
:)
Who came here from reddit post about airbnb key?
I did. This guy is amazing, I love his videos, and as soon as I saw the airbnb key, I wanted to see if he had done one.
I did. This guy is amazing, I love his videos, and as soon as I saw the airbnb key, I wanted to see if he had done one.
I did. This guy is amazing, I love his videos, and as soon as I saw the airbnb key, I wanted to see if he had done one.
I did. This guy is amazing, I love his videos, and as soon as I saw the airbnb key, I wanted to see if he had one.
I did. This guy is amazing, I love his videos, and as soon as I saw the airbnb key, I wanted to see if he had one.
Wow. I have a very old version of one of these. I've tried for 30 years to get a new key made for it. Not a single Smith has ever been able to make one.
I had a heck of respect of these keys and never considered picking such locks. But as usual it just takes the right tool. If I won't be seen soon I was probably caught fiddling with the lockers at my bank.
that rubber boot on the shackle almost gives the impression that lock could be shimmed.
He sounds like a dentist opening locks :D
You are the Real Master! 😮😮😮
I have seen this tool but never seen it used. And it's that simple!!!
I suppose this kind of lock is good to practice your beginner spp.
During WW2 in some of the German POW camps they started to use these locks. I'm not sure if they were difficult for POWs to pick, but they never successfully duplicated the keys... At least not for a long time.
Great pickin' LPL
Dear LPL, well picked. Please show us a lock that's really hard to pick. Many thanks, John.
The other 4 pins are like the drones in gatwick. They're there but you can't see or feel. 😂
this answers my question on how secure my cruciform motorcycle disk brake lock was.
I have a steering wheel lock with the same type of key. Got it as a gift
Always best to use the correct tool for the job.
Picks lock in one minute "it was a little bit time consuming"
You remind me of my dentist when you’re going through the pin counts.
Those damn raking attacks! :)
That was rather time consuming. It almost took me as long to pick it as it would’ve taken you to find the key and open it. ✌🏻
About 5 SECONDS with the raking tool. Super Secure.
"A little bit time consuming," LPL states as he casually opens it in about a minute...
I'd buy the lock just for the cool design of the key!
I like that little raking tool I have a little safe with one of those locks prob be upgrading to something else tomorrow
I guess for ordinary uses this core is alright coz lpl said it is time consuming and also that tool is very unique and not everybody has one of them. My steering wheel lock is this type.
Ingenious !
Thanks for the review. To SPP this lock is a pretty time consuming challenge for any enthusiast. Have you ever tried using the more commonly purchased simple 4-legged wire rake to open one of these locks? I also found a snapper and electric rake doesn't have much luck on this type of lock either.
Well done and that's a cool raking tool.
Only 12 pin's like a Bilock...not quite the same though. Great job as, usual.🍺😎
no. By principle the four key ways are keyed the same.
Wonder if its possible to make it in such a way that you also have to press down the end of the chamber to get rotation so that you can't turn it without some third or second tool in there
yes that is mechanically possible
Sure they could, but that would cost extra. The average consumer would look at a similiar product without the added security feature and save themselves a small amount and purchase the cheaper. Example ... Who would ever buy a warded lock to protect anything ? The answer is someone who doesn't know better and wants an inexpensive option.
Not unless they're willing to consider the cost involved in completely redesigning a globally exported mass produced Chineseum Landfillium lock for the sake of slightly improved security?
Without a complex design, such a feature would probably just act as another pin that binds and could be picked using standard lockpicking techniques.
even if it did have one, like i believe the schlage primus has, you still would only need 2 tools at one time. as long as you hold your tension, the pins would stay picked, and you could press that pin at the end of the chamber. you could also maybe do it before you start raking so that it turns when you're done.
If it had some security pins then things could be different. Nice picking though.
The raking tool lasted longer then I do.
First... GREAT channel! Love your videos! Great job!
Second... Is there a lock you haven't been able to pick?
Third... With all your lock picking knowledge you should start your own lock company / Brand!
I have no doubt it would be one bass ass crazy hard to pick lock that I would spend my hard earned bucks on!
You could call it LPL Lock Co.? lol just a thought.
Awesome. Now I'm gonna go rob my neighbors shed and get my damn rake back!
You're gonna use your raking tool to get a rake!
Nice one mate 👍
I see these all over
Where? Ive never seen one of those.
Riesenfriese China 😜
Great picking as usual, to bad it can be raked so easily,some security pins would have been nice. Thanks for the review brother!
Of note: Looks like someone's been playing with Bosnianbill's cat.
Master #3 4 ways.
Slick pick. Now, after your disc detainer build ye gonna make one of those picks?
Nice tool!
@LockPickingLawyer - are security pins ever used in those Cruciform cross locks??
incredible!
*** pulls out oddly specific and specialized tool*** this lock can be picked very easily... I chuckled.
Amazing.
General question: Do locksmiths have special techniques for dealing with weather exposed (dirty, oxidized) locks?
I can't seem to pick that kwikset dead bolt, with the reset feature, I saw you pick recently. *_SHIMS_*
Very interesting, cheers
thats an intimidating tool
I have been watching your videos for awhile. Very interesting.
While you do all your lock picking in your shop, I wonder what picking locks in real life on the streets would look like. What kind of tools would you carry? If you came across a lock you were not prepared for but needed to pick? If you came across a lock in the open public?
In no way am I a lock picker nor do I ever want to be one. I am just curious what you would have to do to change your dynamics in what you do. Legally of coarse. It would certainly add another layer of your videos.
Mike H never pick any lock that you do not own.
Thanks reddit
Hi, I enjoy your videos and I am a big fan either, I would like to ask for some tips. Is this tool picklocker set, can be fit for lock doors like you did in padlock? Thanks in advance for your tips, cheers Mate!!!!
Locks are so scared of you they just open up when you walk past them
So cool, wishing ì had more tools in my corner
suprised by the amount of tension applied
turns out that with the right tool a 12 pins padlock is as much secure as a bathroom lock.
seems to me that if you had something similar to this, but had 5 or 6 pins per side instead of 3 or 4 pins and then added even a single spool or serrated pin per side it'd end up being pretty damn secure
Imagine one with all Emhart pins.
When you said you were going to show a faster way, I was kinda hoping it was a ramset.
I have one of these locks with a see-through body. I picked it half way and now I can't put the keys back in. Kinda stuck... but hopefully I'll figure it out.
One minute is 'time consuming' when you can picked it in 3 second.
Cool!!
you should do a knox box
Just about to watch this vid,thanks...when youre saying 'nothing on 1,2,3' etc is that saying thT those pins/wafers whatever are not binding anymore? Sorry if daft question. Only new to picking last couple weeks and just got my first few picks and clear lock🙂
Yes, he means that those pins are not bound & not giving any feedback. Once he encounters a binding pin, he lifts it until it clicks & then moves on to find the next binding pin.
@@doublejaylar thanks for explaining.thats what i figured but wanted to make sure. Want to get a few more locks myself so can practice. Had a small stanley padlock at home with no key and got it open once raking but cant since then😖 drivinge nuts.awkward key way and so little room in there but no matter how much i try it cant get it:( dont even know if any security pins.think there mite be cus sometimes feels like counter rotation but i dont have enuf experience. Anyway thanks for reply👍
I'm guessing it's cheaper and more effective to have a standard core with security pins, than something like this.
looking like it could easily be shimmed as well
Is there a Strong lock that has no fast method? I mean a pickable lock but one that takes a long time to open even for you! You have taken away the security I felt knowing all that I cherish is "securely locked up lol"! but seriously I can't sleep. shhhh! did u hear that? I think someone's round back
He did a video on his top ten locks and there were some in there that he admitted he couldn't pick.
They exist, but they're stupidly expensive
You dont need to worry about a lock he cant pick. Very few are as good5 bosnian bill or lpl. A few more even pick at all. Its really a decent quality with lots of resistance to physical attacks that you should look for.
Thanks guys! Much appreciated!!👊✌
The Bowley is very secure and relatively cheap compared to a lot of other high security locks with its degree of pick resistance, it's still pretty damned expensive though. One thing to be aware of though, is that anyone with experience in practical security will tell you that for most applications, picking is a very very unlikely attack vector, and it's not something you should worry about that much unless you are concerned with covert entry/access.
Why does no one make challenge locks out of these? It seems like a no brainer.
Mine is a triangular keyhole. And has like 21 pins. I guess. I feel like theres 7 on one side.
Has anyone else noticed that comments for one video will show up on another video? Not like a genuine comment that is referencing a related video, but actual comments that were left on one video at a specific date showing up in the comments for another video on another date. Sometimes by different usernames? I just had this happen and im curious.
Get REKT Solex Cruciform!
I wonder how good my Abus Granit Sledge 77 would fare? That is what I use now on my 2 wheeled road couch,
And here i am struggling with 4 pin masterlocks
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Anyone else think that hand injury was due to machine tooling whilst full of whisky? 🥃