2008 Porsche Cayenne S review - This will piss off some Porsche fanatics
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I bought and still own a 2008 Cayenne S just like the one shown here (except in black) that had a sticker price of about $80k, although I bought the car in 2010 coming off a 2-year lease and paid over $30k less for what was a lightly used car with about 15k miles on the odometer. I have put about 12k miles per year on the car and still love driving it everyday I agree that all of those expensive options aren't worth paying for new and so I didn't. Your second point is how expensive the car is to maintain. Well I asked around and found a very competent local mechanic that specializes in German cars which saves me about half off of what the Porsche dealership would charge me and he still uses OEM parts. A good mechanic isn't that rare. This car hasn't cost me much more in maintenance than my Subaru or Volvo with the exception of those big fat sticky Continental Extreme Contact tires I buy more frequently. I chalk that up to the cost of having so much fun in the car. Yes I totally agree that this vehicle is much more Sport than Utility and that the legroom in the back seat is lousy. Well everything is a tradeoff. I'm 6'2" and have plenty of room in the front seat. Finally, this may not be what the true Porsche purists consider a "real" Porsche but who cares. I drive an incredible car while still avoiding the sticker shock and overpriced dealer maintenance costs. For each his own.
Robert W That is more than a great response, that's a great review in its own right.
I got mine in Jan of 2018...86k miles on it...fresh battery and front brakes. Replaced the ignition coils for about $400 (they wear out normally) and replaced the starter $1000 (covered by warranty). I know I'm looking forward to replacing the driveshaft bearing at some point...but otherwise it just goes and goes. We have put 20k miles on it in one year...
There is really only one reason to own one of these tho...it is because you want a "driving experience." The handling of the Cayenne puts all other SUVs to shame, hands down! The Cayenne handles better than a Camaro, literally. I own a 2001 Boxster, and the Cayenne is just as fast and takes corners just as well. The cockpit is race-car inspired and NOT luxury oriented. This translates into pure SAFETY! The Cayenne gets 5 stars all around (because it is a Touareg) but the most important part of safety is avoiding accidents in the first place. The Cayenne DOES NOT feel lumbering, or heavy, or rollover prone AT ALL. The confidence that it inspires is truly breathtaking.
The best parts about the Cayenne were not discussed in this video...The fact that it is a TRUE off-road capable SUV, despite the fact that it out-performs muscle cars all day long! The Air Suspension lowers the vehicle at 70mph...but raises the vehicle to an astounding 10.8in of ground clearance! Compare that to any other SUV out there...The active sway bars also DISENGAGE for full off-road independent wheel articulation. The Cayenne has a MASSIVE 7700lb towing capacity! The stability management will engage the rear brakes to prevent trailer sway. There is LITERALLY no comparison to the Cayenne's ability to go from racetrack to mud pits and hill climbs to sand dunes WITHOUT EVEN CHANGING TIRES.
I've watched and read lots and lots of reviews comparing the Cayenne to SUVs in it's class, like BMW X5, Mercedes G, Range Rover...every single one of the reviews declare the Cayenne the best handling, performing, and driving satisfaction SUV available.
The thing is, these are LUXURY SUVs. Some practicality is removed to support sportier driving styles. If you don't want the "sporting" part of these vehicles then they are definitely not for you...if you don't drive it FAST, you are wasting your money! However, if you understand and love RennSport...then as someone once said "Porsche...there is NO substitute!"
The thing to remember is that there are no compromises made...a sports car and a truck were successfully merged together to form "the Cayenne." If you need a truck but hate driving one (and also understand that they are unsafe at freeway speed) then there are not many SUVs out there that fit this bill.
In 2004 when the Cayenne came out, there were no US carmakers building anything close to as capable...but that is why a Cayenne is so expensive to purchase new. By 2008, there still was NO US equivalent...now look at how many lux-SUV copycats there are!! Jeep Cherokee, Dodge Durango (which are actually built on a Mercedes platform). This kind of car is desired by the market but too expensive to build properly. Japanese brands were many years behind as well...and are only copies of the original concept. They do not come close to delivering the kind of performance, or even enter the same price bracket. By the time you find a $70k plus Japanese or US SUV with the same towing capacity and raw Horsepower, you have entered into truck based towing/cargo platforms that don't include the words "performance" or "road-handling" or "driving experience"...these are trucks that are so....BORING!
That is why I bought mine used!!! Porsche vehicles are not designed to be "used up" they are intended to be "used forever." Let some rich person take the $60k loss!
Great response. I drive a 2008 base V6 Cayenne that I bought brand new. Paid a shade under $60k for it and truly love everything about it. I still have it to this day with 175,000 miles on it and going strong. Great built car that can certainly outlast Infiniti’s.
Guys, just checked autotrader, there are tons of 10 year old used cayennes with 100k miles and super clean inside and outside for 10k-12k lol
Hey, what’s the mechanic you use? I’ll be looking to buy my dream SUV (2008-2010 Turbo), and I don’t want my wallet to catch fire at a Porsche Stealership. Thank you for your time!
I have driven both of my parent’s Porsche’s (a cayman and a 9/11) and they are quite an experience. I’m 17 and I’ve finally saved up enough to buy my own (used of course) and am blessed to have the opportunity to have a car like this
For those who watch this with the intent to cross shop an Infiniti FX vs. a Cayenne , consider this a very biased review. While agreed the Cayenne is more expensive, and also agreed there are silly uncharges Porsche does, make no mistake: the FX series is NOT comparable to a Cayenne when it comes to performance. What you can't get a cross a review on CZcams is how the Cayenne handles and performs overall. He is going over the original Cayenne. That in itself is a great performance vehicle. Now compare the new Cayenne to any current FX and it's a no contest in favor of the Porsche. If a buyer just cares about utility (which he eludes), then the FX is adequate. But people looking into a Cayenne are most likely looking for a drivers car with utility. The Cayenne delivers that in spades which the Fx cannot. And this is on-road performance. Although probably unlikely, if you want to go off road with the Cayenne, that is no problem too. The FX will not be able to keep up. Anyway, I'm sure t
+Brian Westfield That's a great review Brian. People hearing more than one honest opinion only helps to make them smarter shoppers. I'm sure after reading this, plenty of people will want to drive them both and that is the smartest decision of all.
Yes, the Infiniti and Lexus SUVs don't even come close to the same performance, on OR off road!!!! I purchased mine specifically for the off road capability that was matched by on road performance!!!
I came looking for a review and it was actually a rant and your personal feelings about the cost of upgrades and a casual mention of a few features. Not very informative for a prospective buyer.
R u stupid he’s literally telling u ownership experiences and insight. A review is both pros and cons
We bought a used 2006 Cayenne S that the previous owner had the coolant pipes repaired on and then traded for a newer model. In the 3 years we've owned it, it's been a great SUV with only a small repair needed (screw in the steering pump needed to be tightened). It does a great job pulling the boat, is fast and comfortable. Something like a Swiss Army Knife on wheels with all the options, including an air pump with extendable hose. Do the routine maintenance, oil change, brake pads, drain pipe cleaning, and should serve you for many years. Indecently, the handles the reviewer can't figure out is for holding onto when going down roads that aren't level.
I don't own a Porsche but feel this video absolutely tasteless. To dedicate an entire video to trash another automotive company to promote your own. Sales must be slow.
Thanks for taking a look Raven. I've always thought it was important to be honest about everything. If I say every car is amazing, why would anyone ever believe me? I would never trash Porsche since I have owned and absolutely love 911's. However, this particular SUV, while great if you buy it new, can be a menace to your pocketbook at 100,000 miles...it's just the truth.
I took most of the knocks to be compliments!
@@everycarSeattle A properly maintained Porsche really begins it's life around 100k miles...that is when all the known issues have been taken care of and the car is ready...on the Cayenne, replace the coils, coolant pipes and driveshaft bearing...on the 911/Boxster, replace the main seal and the IMS...known stuff. The most important thing about used Porsche cars is that half the fun of owning one is doing service and repairs yourself...if that isn't for you...but you want a race car (any kind of race car) then be prepared to make some mechanic rich.
As someone who was about to pull the trigger on a Cayenne, I seriously appreciate this information while hilarious video. Went with an F-Type instead.
Lol I love this guy! He sounds like the Ron Paul of automobiles lol.. He could start a whole new channel on cutting straight through the BS on cars.. Love his unfiltered yet professional honesty! Great video!
You're being too negative. It's a Porsche :)
MatthieuAmherst You're probably right. It's important to me for folks to consider 2 important things in a car purchase: Cost of ownership and resale value. Both of which are at the bottom of the spectrum on the Cayenne. Fast and beautiful sure, but at a more significant price than just the cost of the car.
@@everycarSeattle You're NOT being negative. You're being real. Appreciate your honesty! $500 for floor mats? No way! I don't care if it's called God or Porsche! $500 for floor mats is bad!
@@unebonnevie That is why I purchased mine used....86k miles, $87k sticker...walked out the door with 3 year warranty for $21K. I have put 20k miles on mine in 1 year and haven't had any problems. I replaced the starter and ignition coils...but those wear out normally on all cars....I put 2 starters and an alternator in my last Maxima.
Someone else bought my floor mats new, and I got them for a good discount!! Same with the $30k worth of other goodies!
Ha. .. VW Touereg....
This guy makes a lot of sense. This is a rich man's car in the first place. If you wanna make sure you really get the "bang for you buck" kinda thing after you bought a used one, do the maintenance by yourselves. Aftermarket part are reasonably priced right now for this model. It's majorly the labor costs from the dealership that makes the bill rocket high. It is how the dealership industty works. But if you will compare this to the other cheap SRP SUVs, of course, the difference is just too big, because it's a Porsche. Myself particularly, I'm planning to buy one of these cars but first, I am going to be needing my own garage and a lift.
Find one with air suspension! I set my suspension to Special Terrain Mode and crawl right underneath! I removed the skidplates and changed the oil myself in less than 45 minutes.
I am a DIY as well, and I don't have many tools...but for the cost of labor on service I can purchase any tool I need for a particular job.
What the hell is a 911-995... been a Porsche driver all my life and never heard of a 995 production 911.
Oh and the Cayenne was developed FIRST and then VW came along and borrowed the chassis to make the Toureg, which has different transmission, engine and build quality level of a Honda. (LOL) Have you ever sat in a Cayenne and then immediately sat in a Toureg? OMG... I'm just gonna drop the mike right here. LMAO
Co developed with VW as Porsche didn't have the resources aka CASH to develop an SUV on their own. They share sooo much including the transmissions, air suspensions etc, but not v8 engines. I don't have a problem with that and I love the interior on my Cayenne. Alcantara suede headling is soooo nice.
@@chrisali2173 The Cayenne platform is so awesome...they build the LAMBORGHINI SUV on the same platform...but you won't call Urus a VW now, would we?
The Touareg is the cheap Cayenne, not the other way around. Since Porsche owns VW (again, not the other way around as most people think...the Porsche Family owns a controlling stake in VW/Porsche/Audi AG). Anything they make will be used in whichever brand they think will sell cars.
I think if you say you have owned a Porsche, you would know they don't have a 995 generation. Does the Cayenne share the same platform and use similar parts a VW, you bet. Volkswagen Audi Group. Definitely comparing apples to oranges here. Does Infinity make a model that has a 0-60 of less than 6.0 seconds, can tow over 7,000lbs, has locking diffs, a low range box, and 11 cows worth of high quality leather? I thought they were ridiculous, unnecessary and ugly when they came out. I test drove one... I bought one. There is no single car that pulls off being a sports car and a truck as well as this with that amount of luxury. Serious quality. I have driven many Infinities, they go a-b, and appeal to a certain person at a certain price point. If you have the money you don't really care how much floor mats cost, you just know they are high quality.
19krpm If I said 995, I'm an idiot since it was obviously a 993. I actually hate thinking about that car because although I bought it for 22,000 in 2005 and sold it for 28000 in 2006 with about 47 or 48k, that car would bring easily $55,000 nowadays.
I got mine in Jan of 2018...86k miles on it...fresh battery and front brakes. Replaced the ignition coils for about $400 (they wear out normally) and replaced the starter $1000 (covered by warranty). I know I'm looking forward to replacing the driveshaft bearing at some point...but otherwise it just goes and goes. We have put 20k miles on it in one year...
There is really only one reason to own one of these tho...it is because you want a "driving experience." The handling of the Cayenne puts all other SUVs to shame, hands down! The Cayenne handles better than a Camaro, literally. I own a 2001 Boxster, and the Cayenne is just as fast and takes corners just as well. The cockpit is race-car inspired and NOT luxury oriented. This translates into pure SAFETY! The Cayenne gets 5 stars all around (because it is a Touareg) but the most important part of safety is avoiding accidents in the first place. The Cayenne DOES NOT feel lumbering, or heavy, or rollover prone AT ALL. The confidence that it inspires is truly breathtaking.
The best parts about the Cayenne were not discussed in this video...The fact that it is a TRUE off-road capable SUV, despite the fact that it out-performs muscle cars all day long! The Air Suspension lowers the vehicle at 70mph...but raises the vehicle to an astounding 10.8in of ground clearance! Compare that to any other SUV out there...The active sway bars also DISENGAGE for full off-road independent wheel articulation. Don't forget the low gear transfer case and locking center differential!! The Cayenne has a MASSIVE 7700lb towing capacity! The stability management will engage the rear brakes to prevent trailer sway. Almost NO US or Japanese SUV offers air suspension, which is key to safe towing. There is LITERALLY no comparison to the Cayenne's ability to go from racetrack to mud pits and hill climbs to sand dunes WITHOUT EVEN CHANGING TIRES. Not even BMW or Mercedes offer the same kind of off-road capability as the Cayenne.
I've watched and read lots and lots of reviews comparing the Cayenne to SUVs in it's class, like BMW X5, Mercedes G, Range Rover...every single one of the reviews declare the Cayenne the best handling, performing, and driving satisfaction SUV available.
The thing is, these are LUXURY SUVs. Some practicality is removed to support sportier driving styles. If you don't want the "sporting" part of these vehicles then they are definitely not for you...if you don't drive it FAST, you are wasting your money! However, if you understand and love RennSport...then as someone once said "Porsche...there is NO substitute!"
The thing to remember is that there are no compromises made...a sports car and a truck were successfully merged together to form "the Cayenne." If you need a truck but hate driving one (and also understand that they are unsafe at freeway speed) then there are not many SUVs out there that fit this bill.
In 2004 when the Cayenne came out, there were no US carmakers building anything close to as capable...but that is why a Cayenne is so expensive to purchase new. By 2008, there still was NO US equivalent...now look at how many lux-SUV copycats there are!! Jeep Cherokee, Dodge Durango (which are actually built on a Mercedes platform), Lexus and Infinity now make oversized crossovers that look/feel like the Cayenne on-road. The Cayenne is the kind of car is desired by the market but too expensive to build properly. Japanese brands were many years behind and offer no performance (all V6 engines with 3500lb max towing)...and are only copies of the original concept. They do not come close to delivering the kind of performance, or even enter the same price bracket. By the time you find a $70k plus Japanese or US SUV with the same towing capacity and raw Horsepower, you have entered into truck based towing/cargo platforms (Infinity QX80, Toyota Land Cruiser) that don't include the words "performance" or "road-handling" or "driving experience"...these are trucks that are so....BORING!
That is why I bought mine used!!! Porsche vehicles are not designed to be "used up" they are intended to be "used forever." Let some rich person take the $60k loss! And I know you can't look me in the eye and say that any Land Rover has ANY modicum of "reliability" or "low cost to operate."
That was the best comment/response I have ever read Dr. Mindbender and nobody is better suited to share an evaluation than an owner who actually has experienced real world ownership. Great, strong opinions and awesome of you to go into such detail. Thanks again and have a terrific 2019!
this is a very intelligent and provocative. He's right about the expensive extras. I just looked at one today that was $105,000 and didn't have heated seats.
911 995..... ok then....
Lol ikr
In that case i have a Porsche 123 lol
A lot of luxury cars are getting cheap later on...first-generation Porsche Cayenne is getting cheap -- very cheap. You can get 2009 for $9,995$, which is especially impressive considering it's a V8-powered Cayenne S model rather than the mediocre Cayenne V6. Admittedly, this particular example has been driven quite a bit -- it has 150,000 miles -- but its price is in line with other aging Cayenne models from the first generation. It's offered by McCloskey Motors in Colorado Springs, and it looks to be in excellent condition despite the mileage. Now, thats a good deal. I would like to buy it!
That is why I purchased mine used....86k miles, $87k sticker...walked out the door with 3 year warranty for $21K. I have put 20k miles on mine in 1 year and haven't had any problems. I replaced the starter and ignition coils...but those wear out normally on all cars....I put 2 starters and an alternator in my last Maxima.
Someone else bought my floor mats new, and I got them for a good discount!! Same with the $30k worth of other goodies!
I love this guy so brutally honest
I appreciate you taking a look Bassedi. Have a great 2019!
Good review and a lot of people having trouble understanding that multiple things can be true at the same time. Does Porsche charge a lot for features that are cheap if not standard on other cars? Does the Cayenne have great towing capacity, off road capability and combine that in a pretty luxurious package? Yes and yes.
Those are the things left out of the review that are the reason for buying a Cayenne...first it is a Porsche driving experience...plus it doesn't leave out the off road and towing...things that are totally missing from any other SUV, even Mercedes and BMW!!!!
Fact is, that the Cayenne is the best selling Porsche ever, world wide. Millions of people can't be that wrong. Of cause there are expensive for most of us , but if you can afford it .... who cares ?
By the way there never has been a 911 995.
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Porsche 911 (1963-1989)
Porsche 930 a turbo version of the original 911
Porsche 964 (1989-1994)
Porsche 993 (1993-1998)
Porsche 996 (1999-2005) all-new body and water-cooled engines
Porsche 997 (2005-2012)
Porsche 991 (2012-Present)
'Quality on a boxster out of warranty is not good.' - ya ok. If you've ever in your life turned a wrench you would know that boxsters are one of the simplest cars to work on.... and extremely easy to maintain.
My 08 Cayenne has been rock solid. Buy an Infiniti and enjoy replacing your catalytic converters every 6 months. Service your Porsche at a German car specialist, not the dealership and it will be the best vehicle you've ever owned.
That's awesome that you have such a nice Cayenne D Glover. They really are exciting cars but they are unbelievably expensive to own, especially with some miles on them. There's a reason so few of them are on the road despite being so popular when they were new...same with the Touareg. But you got a good one, so you got the best of both worlds, great performance and trouble-free, That's a win-win.
You're awesome. Thank you!
I appreciate you taking a look ejdotw, thank you very much!
Love the honesty! Thank you for a real world review without much BIAS to the dealer- even when you are the dealer!! 😁
Dude, your honesty is legendary.
I just went to a Porsche dealer today. Salesman owns a small Porsche suv. I was attempting to ask a price below MSRP. His answer was "It is a Porsche. Everyone buys at MSRP." Those cars are designed for millionaires.
They're so nice new. Nothing says you've kicked ass in life like dropping 100 grand on a new Porsche.
Hi Joe. Thanks for replying to me. Unfortunately, I moved to La Brea and started working in West Hollywood three months ago. My dream affording a Porsche is gone now. I am a foreigner and I have to go where jobs are. The office is on Sunset Blvd. I see Bentley, Rolls Royce every two minutes in the morning when I go to work. There are definitely more Porsches and they are the top models such as 911 Turbo or Cayenne GTS. I am thinking wtf people here are so rich and they drive Bentley, Farrari and Porsche. I don't like living near Hollywood. People here are very materialistic and it is hard to do anything.
For crying out loud buy used, in this modern day and age there is no reason to buy a new car. Where once you take it out of the lot you lose 20% of the car's value, and much much more with luxury cars. Just make sure you have a good mechanic you know and buy a used well taken care of Cayenne, that's what my parents did and we had a lovely x5 for years to come. Why would you pay 100k for a new porsche cayenne when you can buy a 3-4 year old one for 30-40k? And then when you come to sell it, you won't lose that 70k that you've spent, rather having lost 10-15k in repair and a little depreciation. Honestly, buying a new car for that little extra 30 horsepower and 1 extra mile per gallon with the newest navigator is no where good enough to justify the 50-70k extra you pay for a new one. If you were looking for a used one already, fair enough. But people just have to understand that buying a new car is the most stupid thing you can do nowadays, people have said "but I get financing on new cars!" however nowadays you can also get financing on used cars, on a higher interest, but if you need to feel safe in case something goes wrong with the car, then that's the solution. If you get a 2-4 year old car you might even get extended warranty too!
for the rich ones, they can buy new cars. for me, if there is a nice used one, i would rather choose it.
THANK YOU! I found the current Cayennes very attractive and I like speed. So, I stopped at a dealership and let the guy know that I couldn't buy a new one. He assured me they have great certified pre-owned ones with a good warranty... (2 years....I'm a low miles driver, less than 8000 per year)... in the range I could spend and that these are "very reliable" cars. Not being very familiar with that, as no one I've ever known has owned a Porsche, I wasn't sure about that. So, I've been trying to find out and it appears that there are some bought and paid for reviews, because when I read owner reviews, I find contradiction to the "professional" reviews. I have also considered the Q70 and have yet to test one, but hear they ride rough. But, I'll take a little rougher ride for horse power and reliability over a big maintenance risk. So, thank you for your honesty! I needed this, even if it was 2 1/2 years ago.
Thank you so much for the nice words Lisa! Now that we are in Hawaii, we are re-launching the channel in just a few weeks...so hopefully we'll have some great new stuff for you.
I really hope you bought a Cayenne! An Audi is actually less reliable than a Porsche as far as I know...and the Q70 isn't a "rough ride" it is a "wallowing hippo thru the mud when you are on the freeway" kind of ride. The extra 1500lbs the Q is carrying totally negates the horsepower, and the difference in towing capability is not noticeable. The body roll and wallowing will cause lots of car-sickness.
Pat Edwards, M.A. ... you are absolutely right as I think I have pointed out a few times on this page, it was a 95 993 that I had before the Infiniti...sometimes I make mistakes live on camera, plus the fact that I was dropped on my head as a child. As a point of record, the VW and Porsche were actually started at the same time in 2002, neither was first. They are the same platform, built in the same plant by the same people at what is called VW Bratislava in Slovakia. It's where the Q7 is also built. As for the Porsche, it is sent from Slovakia to Leipzig where the interior is installed. It's why the interior is distinctive from the VW. The build quality on all 3 is theoretically identical, save the interiors.
+everycarSeattle sorry that you were dropped on the head as a child; so sad! haha
No no no, the build quality differs because Porsche builds ALL the performance components specifically for the Cayenne; suspension, engine, turbos, etc. Just like if you got the Lamborghini (same platform as Cayenne/Touareg), you would expect "Lamborghini reliability" out of the suspension and drivetrain...which are 2 words that shouldn't be spoken together.
Thanks for sharing, you really opened my eyes.
btw what hell is a 995?
You got me on that one...it was a '95 993. The guy who bought it lowered it and put some gorgeous wheels on it. It looks awesome.
I love how you critique this car with your honest opinions. Man you're becoming my new favorite reviewer haha. I loved how much history you gave on the Supra!
This guy who is sitting in a Porsche Cayenne, that special masterpiece SUV, is talking about Infini.....tiny.....unfine.....what?
cad70dy bwah ha ha... to infinity and beyond!
"TWEEEntyfive hundred dollars" Haaaa...I like this guy!!
Thank you so much for the nice words Akuma! Now that we are in Hawaii, we are re-launching the channel in just a few weeks...so hopefully we'll have some great new stuff for you.
I sat on one 2 weeks' back. Very Nice. People who buy this car doesn't mind the maintenance bill.
Great review you are the first carsalesman that I have seen that know a lot about cars. most just get by. I have bought 53 cars in the past 10years I love cars and I am also in Washington Everett and this was a great review and I will not buy a Porsche, kind of thought they hade issues. thanks next car might come and see you
Justin Rego 53 cars in 10 years, wow! I think from firsthand knowledge you might be the true car authority.
diar Pelatino … I’ve got a Porsche Cayenne Turbo S from 2009 , it has 187.000 km. on it , and I never had problem in this 13 yrs
Thank you for the video I learned a lot.
Yes and I do like the Porshe 911.
Wow, the was real truth, yes I would buy a vehicle from this guy.. if only politicians were this honest..
Wow. Gotta love honesty. Was thinking of buying one of these. Not Now.
I appreciate that Helmut...thank you so much for taking a look and happy holidays to you!
I get it I get it jeez... U work at infiniti so all infiniti cars are amazing...luckily for me I don't care at all for infinitis and will ABSOLUTELY ALWAYS pick a Porsche over anything in the infiniti lineup!
I won't give you a bad review as you seem to be a competent infiniti salesman. 😂
thanks for such a wonderful review...Very honest and to the point.
Thank you for taking a look Jesse, I appreciate it!
Porsche trim options have been like this across their model lines for some time, $800 for a leather e-brake handle etc, this isn't new to the Cayenne. Sure you can get a Japanese SUV for less. What differentiates the Cayenne and the Touareg is they are true off road vehicles and can go pretty much wherever a Jeep or Land Rover can go. The Infinty is a great vehicle to take to Starbucks but I'm not sure I would venture too far into the woods with it.
I would never take the FX "off-road." Snow is fine with snow tires, but they stink off road. Touaregs also need snow tires when there is ice, or they can be a handful, but they are better in the snow with any kind of tire. If I was dropping 100 grand on a mountain retreat type of rig, I'd visit my local Range Rover dealer and not even consider anything else. I've said it a million times, the Porsche is gorgeous and fast, much more so than the Infiniti, but owning one with 100,000 miles can be unbelievably expensive.
Having owned many a German car past 100k, I will generalize your comment to the extreme and declare owning *any* Kraut car (with perhaps the exception of 80's Mercedes diesels) is an experience that will widen one's butt hole for sure.
Wow. Such ignorance. Such BS. I’d love to hear about your 995- oh wait, that’s right, there was no 995 series 911 they went from 993 straight to 996 skipping 994 and 995.
I had a 2012 Infiniti G37X between my 3rd and 4th Audi’ because I wanted something different for a change. It was fast- it had the Maxima engine- but the interior was plastic, and the car was a joke in the snow even with snow tires on all 4 wheels and having pushed the non-magical snow button. My first car was a 1974 Porsche 911 Targa. I am a real Porsche guy, you however, are not. I have a 993, and 996, and a 2006 Cayenne. Yes, the options are way overpriced, but they are incredibly well-made. That said, I would buy my next Cayenne used - yes I still have my 2006 Porsche Cayenne - and I love it as much is the day I bought it, 98,000 miles later. Another thing, enough with the it’s really a Volkswagen BS. Yes, they share the same block and frame and design, but that’s where it ends. There are certain parts you can get that are the same, but they’re very different. Careens have Porsche heads that flow he weigh more air in fuel, as does the air injection and intake systems. Put a Touareg the equivalent V6 or V8 next to a Cayenne, start them up, and you’ll hear the sport tuned exhaust on the Cayenne, not on the Touareg - because the Cayenne has more back pressure which gives you more power,. The handles next to the sea or for holding on, because it’s meant to go very fast, it’s a Porsche. It also handles like a Porsche - I’ve led some BMWs through some wicked switchbacks only to have them running for the road and working really hard to keep up. Like any car, take proper care of it and you won’t have a lot of problems. Yes they are more expensive to fix, but that’s because the parts are built better, and in Germany by real engineers - not a bunch of people who know nothing about cars. No cargo space? I have three kids, strollers in the back With diaper bags and groceries and there is room. Yes the rear is slanted, but that’s for the body style - which looks so much better than an Infiniti FX. But then again, isn’t your infinities really just Nissans with leather and a few me options? Yes they are. If you can’t afford to fix a Porsche, you have no business buying one - unless you know how to fix cars yourself. And if you have tools, there are so many Porsche Luzius on the web who are more than happy to help you then because of ownership decreases very quickly. I’ve had very little girl wrong with my car. Yes the dealer wants $6000 to do all 4 brakes, But that’s because they’re putting new pads and new rotors and new sensors and new hardware on the car. They are not cheap, but I’ve panic stopped in the highway so many times and had to have people behind me take the side shoulder or run off the road onto the grass to prevent themselves from rear ending me because my car stops crazy fast- the brake calipers are huge! Another thing- 12 years later if I bring my car in to get my a/c recharged and oiled they give me a current year
Porsche to drive, or will come to my house and pick up my car leaving the car they drove in as a loaner- yes 12 years later. You don’t get that from Infiniti or VW. Not to bad mouth VW, because I bought my son a GTI which has been running perfectly. You must hate finely engineered German cars because you can’t afford one, and cry every time you see one in somebody else’s driveway.
Frankly, if I was your boss, I’d fire you. You sound like a Honda salesman as you profess your love for them, which detracts from your usefulness as an Infiniti sales rep. If I’m your dealership’s principle, how am I supposed to be able to sell a Cayenne that came in on trade after you bad mouth them here on the Internet where everyone in the world with a connected device can view your uneducated deceitful rant? But then again, you are used car salesman, and probably will never be able to really afford a Porsche. No Porsche owner would ever slam another Porsche if they have any knowledge or real experience driving a Cayenne. Bad form!
The 995 is a supercharged all electric dually convertible AWD with 7 forward gears and 4 reverse gears. You know, "a real Porsche"😂😂😂
Anyone else high and laughing at how he described the cost of everything too damn expensive for no reason
Me rn 😂 and I bought one yesterday (update* sold it for $6000 more 😂)
He's supposed to be making a sale wtf whys he slamming the car?
Good review! A little harsh on the brand, but you've obviously had a bit of experience with the warranty side of things.
I'm still a Porsche fan - whatever. Got an old 2000 GT3 that's as simple as (no cruise control, no sunroof, no nuthin') but it goes fast :)
Thanks for the video.
spudboy1328 I love Porsche's (especially air-cooled) and if I was more mechanically inclined I would like them even more. It's my own ignorance not knowing how to work on cars that keeps me from owning one. Sadly, virtually nobody works on their own car any more so you're at the mercy of the Porsche dealer and at $150+ per hour, things can get crazy really fast.
You can now get a 2008 for aroud 13,000... I think at that price it's a good deal. And engine reliability on this generation has been terrific.
Like any car, but especially an older car with exotic options that can cost a lot to deal with, a buyer's inspection at the Porsche dealer before you buy is the best $200 you will ever spend.
I think you just don't like Cayenne which you can't even compare with your Infiniti because its way better, I drove both cars and I know the difference very well as I know there is no SUV on earth safer and more comfortable than Cayenne.
Truck is big enough to load all your stuff for a trip of 3 days with your family as I do and that handle next to the gear stick that you see it useless is very useful which I use it myself when I'm turning with speed, buddy we're different in tastes and choices I hope you understand my point.
YES, THAT IS WHY I BOUGHT MINE! Our family was in our Honda Odyssey and we got crashed in to. We wanted to trade out of the minivan platform into a SUV for more off road capability and to tow our 5200lb trailer. No other SUV is close to the safety offered by building the Cayenne with high performance handling. We bought the Cayenne because it seemed like the SAFEST vehicle we could find. There is NO compromise to the off road capability, 11in ground clearance, de-coupling sway bars, low gear and locking differential just like a REAL TRUCK (not like the Infiniti AT ALL)...there is NO compromise to the road handling because it is a PORSCHE.
If you could stop complaining and over exaggerating many things I think this could’ve been a decent video. Unfortunately it wasn’t. I own a 2008 V6 Cayenne that I bought new for a shade under $60k. I still drive it everyday and it has very easily made it to 175,000 miles. It hasn’t had a lot of issues and has been an amazing car. You complained about paying for many things that I skipped. I only purchased the base model with the Bose sound upgrade and an aftermarket Pioneer nav and backup camera to avoid the $3500 dealer price. I’m sure that if you ever were able to drive and afford one you would understand how advanced they are and that the build quality is undeniable.
You said the magic word Chris and that was V6 (two words technically.) Now, if you have followed my videos over the years you know I had a supercharged NSX for $70,000 a 22000 mile 993 factory widebody, a 600 horsepower Infiniti racecar and various other cool cars over the years and virtually every single one was sold years after purchase for a profit. We did a review of every car my wife and I have had since 2000 and the total cost was (-2800)...that means you would have to sell your Cayenne for $62800 to get the same results. Everything I teach is about resale value and minimizing loss, while experiencing lots of cool cars along the way. Here's my latest Porsche video: czcams.com/video/vwNHhPMeAek/video.html you'll see I love Porsche's so long as they are well bought and have the opportunity to appreciate.
I will be sure to check out your videos. This cayenne one was actually the first one that I’ve seen. Thank you for the response I appreciate it.
this video TICKLES me because in january my father purchased a 2006 infiniti g35 and i bought a 2006 porsche cayenne a few days later. he said he’ll give the porsche 6 months to live cause it had 180,000 miles.
since then i’ve only changed a bulb in the headlight, put in a new stereo (porsche computers suck after more than 10 years), and an oil change. that’s it. not even a compete tune up yet.
the porsche cayenne is fun, fast, luxurious, neck-turning, and an overall personal joy to drive everyday and the fact that it’s age doesn’t impede any of these factors goes to show that it’s a timeless vehicle.
This is the greatest man on earth Lmao.
God bless you. I literally almost bought one of these w None of these features on it
Porsche is gonna sue this man.. 😆😆
Not really. I have a lot of friends who manage Porsche dealerships...they agree. They'd be the first to tell you to lease a new one or buy one certified and hang on to it until the Porsche factory warranty expires...outside of that, you're on your own.
I LOVED test-driving this vehicle; hot stuff. I love love love it. Tied with new Range Rover sport; my opinion.
When will these snobby 911 owners just get over themselves and realise Porsche is a different kind of car manufacturer these days. If you hate on Porsche for that reason then you should hate on Jaguar too. Or they could both just fail to adapt and end up like Aston Martin, in and out of bankruptcy.
O and one more thing, you think Porsches are expensive to run? Try buying a 50ft motor boat. Jesus Christ
A 50 ft motor boat is probably a whole order of magnitude more expensive to own than just about any car I can think of. Or maybe not, I've never owned one.
911 people are finally celebrating...because the Cayenne has delivered MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF R&D MONEY for completely awesome machines like the CARRERA GT, 918 SPYDER, and the ultimate track car of all time, the 919 EVO. AND YES, all this technology ENDS UP IN THEIR ROAD CARS, including the Cayenne...do some research and you'll see that the Cayenne derives from the 959 supercar, crossed with the classic 928 touring car. There really isn't anything new about the Cayenne when it comes to Porsche's history of Motorsport.
Try buying a Land Rover...
thanks for your honesty, cayene is now out of my list
I guess rich people love to get ripped off
Thanks because I surely was buying this week for 11,000 used with 145,000 miles
Did u end up buying it?
@@niagarafallsnewyork3659 nope, I got a jeep instead..
@@alikbey proboly a good idea i almost bought an 04 that the guy had just put 6 grand into then it broke down again before I bought it. Now I found a 2008 like this with 145k miles for 6,900 was considering it but after this video I just don't thi k its worth it in the long run
Thnx for a real honest review!
I appreciate you taking a look Francisco, thank you very much!
I luv this guy lol
I watched this video thinking how ridiculous it was everything you pointed out and then it hit me.
You want one and can't afford it. You are the car version of a Windows PC owner that can't afford the Mac.
I'm not a porsche owner (I have an Excursion) but this video DRIPS of envy. Also, keep in mind your Infinti's can't hold a candle to that Porsche on resale value. The Cayennes depreciate quickly but your SUVs are even worse.
+Jeremy Lynnes Since both of my cars are more expensive than the Cayenne and my previous car was a 993 Carrera, I'm just gonna guess that I'm not super envious of the Porsche Touareg.
Ok I appreciate your perspective and would concur that the up-front costs are insane - but as a 2008 S owner (bought with 115k miles on it) it has been one of the most reliable and fun vehicles I have ever driven (I've had in several Mercedes cars, Acuras, infinitis, etc). I can't say how much I love this car. It is really a disservice to claim it has high maintenance costs out of warranty, it's just not the case. I think now, after 14 years, the used market would agree with me, these things in good shape fetch 15-25k while the equivalent mercedes/bmw/audis are all skirting the drain at 10k or less with a plethora of deferred maintenance problems...
I will grant that the scheduled maintenance (which I do myself) is extensive and if you do not follow the service guide to the letter little things like unblocking drain plugs can become bothersome. A lot of mechanics will not know to do things like use an aluminium washer for the oil drain plug, which is required so as not to corrode the oil pan, etc. So yeah, I get that it can be seen as temperamental. But proper preventive maintenance leads to a very reliable and very, very fun ride
In fact only it's shell and AC and some other small bits are actual mutual between the Cayenne Q7 and Touareg.
I pretty much agree with everything you said...but I still want one. :) I want the heavily depreciated one that some guy spend a ton on and had serviced regularly. Practical me says get a Lexus or Infinity SUV...but practical me is a chump. :)
hoffmanmotors Well said. So few people factor depreciation into their buying decision. However, if you know what you are doing, like you, there is plenty of $80,000 merchandise out there with realistic miles for around 20 grand.
THAT IS EXACTY HOW I FEEL, SO I BOUGHT ONE! NO REGRETS! Porsche=keep it forever...Japanese/US=use it up and throw it away. THE CAYENNE IS PRACTICAL it does what any other mid size SUV does...in SUPREME STYLE!
"I sell cars for a living. Except this one. This car I hate." The video.
Porsche fired you from reviewing their cars shortly after this video didn't they?
No such thing as a 995 widebody.
No such thing as the phrase 'all essential purposes'. What you mean is 'all intents and purposes'.
Fail.
This review is awesome. Back in the day when it was new, it was an awesome ride..not so much now. Keep up the good work. I am a fan of yours.
+Ed Walcott I appreciate that very much Ed! The new videos will be coming from Hawaii in about 7 weeks and they should be a lot of fun.
You have no idea what yourtalking about my friend
Pratyush Dutta I probably have some idea since I have sold so many and taken so many in trade, (not to mention a few people who are close to me who own one) but I knew I was taking a controversial position on this one.
everycarSeattle I watched your video (comical) and understand your loyalty to Infiniti and Honda. But as an owner of eight Porsche's over the years, including 2 Cayenne's (ok, they only count as half a Porsche), I see some of what you say as accurate. Where you fall down is on the reliability of the '08 Cayenne and I suspect you didn't do your homework on the reliability of this specific model year. Now if you are speaking to the '03- '06 the reliability with coolant tubes and drive shafts is an issue but the Cayenne is very reliable post '06. As for drivability and performance in an SUV package I cannot find a worthy replacement for my '08 with 108k miles other than another Cayenne. Now I may be unique as a parent of ski racers but the Cayenne is unmatched for their all wheel drive system, performance and handling on all road surfaces. Hence the reason you pay more for the privilege and yes the spartan interior of the '08 but the '10 interiors are actually cool and very unGerman like. I doubt your Infiniti can match the Cayenne handling on snow packed roads but would welcome the comparison. Keep up the videos!!
poor-middle class men, reviewing luxury-rich class items, always upset me.
for some people $3000 for leather, is only like $3, even 3 pennies to their net worth.
Only poor man would complain about amenities in this way.
my 1st car was an Infiniti J30t, constant problems, I drove it to my prom with no stereo, always in the shop.
2nd car was a Lexus SC4, top notch & bulletproof reliable. Turns out, Lexus admits that they study the quality & performance of Porsche. The Cayenne S will be my next, then Panamera.
This is exactly the review id expect from someone who cant afford to drive an upper class vehicle.
I appreciate your time and effort to come up with this video... actually critique is very good weather was in a positive or negative way cause a lover of something, even was negative but still can attrack ppl for those points and can discover more about it, like am planning to have one and get much information from ur review but now I know what the problems in this car and how to deal with them...we should respect other effort cause really u have done BUT just to remind you Porsche is Porsche, Mercedes is Mercedes...etc those cars if u plan to buy them just because you love them and they can take care of you and ur sfaety ;)...all the best for ur career
I appreciate all the bad reviews about the cars I want to purchase, so I know what to look out for.
YOU'RE GREAT. GREAT STUFF ! :)))
I appreciate it Adnajdenova! Now that we are in Hawaii, we should have some great new videos headed your way soon.
Awsome review thanks
Thanks for taking a look Delio, I appreciate it!
You have some good points but at times you are very rude about it.
And I did notice that all the way through you talk about how great infiniti is. This is basically an Infiniti ad. Sorry but that's not even a car that's close to the Cayenne, plus its totally irrelevant to what this review is supposed to be about. I gave you a thumbs up anyway because the FACTS in this were useful, despite the ads and the rude tone.
Just wanna say that Porsche people spend money on all these accessories is not because they need to, but definitely because they can.
Infiniti isn't exactly in the clear when it comes to reliability. The current Q50 has major issues with the electronics. The VQ HR motors have oil consumption issues and maintenance/repairs aren't exactly cheap especially for a Japanese car.
That's actually a really intelligent observation and completely true.
What was the point of this video? That car is worth like 14k, so what if the options were thousands of dollars when it was new?
Sounds like you're getting a really good deal when you talk up the extras like that!! I'm getting $500 floor mats FOR FREE!!
Awesome review. Same goes with new cameras- new Nikon and Canon’s are the Cayenne of cameras. Lol.
when the interior is hand made is expensive! :)
Porsche trashes your Infinity on the track and on the sand equally, not to mention those cars will still drive while your brand will be resting on the scrap yard
perfect review
I have always wanted one of these and now was looking in to it , I cant afford to put in a lot of money into a car that is not going to be reliable anyways. I appreciate the honesty. i will look else were for reliability. i wouldnt mind to pay for the car, But then Have to pay for the car like 3x over? no I'm ok. thanks again. who better to tell you about a car than a car salesman?
They look great and they are very fast, but you have to be honest with yourself going in if $X,000 problems are realistic for your budget. Thanks for taking a look Trigger.
we own both these vehicles...cayenne turbo and infiniti fx35...my dad WHOOPED my ass when we raced haha. Cayenne all the way, there is no comparison to be made here.
Would WHOOP your ass in the dirt, mud, and sand as well!!! fx35, good for going to the grocery store...Cayenne, good for going nowhere FAST! You just want to drive, not get out of the Cayenne.
“Porsche fanatics”
Like those guys are the end all-be all for the brand. Porsche’s CEO doesn’t care if we died tomorrow. We’re all just numbers to them.
Good advice Mr. Obvious, if you are looking for a "bargain", don't go to a Porsche dealership. Porsche designs their vehicles for drivers; Nissan designs their vehicles for budget conscience commuters.
Cool review. But get a competent cameraman next time!
I like how he’s trying to sell this car yet pointing out bad things about great job 👍
Guys, just checked autotrader, there are tons of 10 year old used cayennes with 100k miles and super clean inside and outside for 10k-12k lol
Calling a Cayenne a Touareg, is like calling a Lexus RX350 a Highlander. Similar parts etc, but not the same car experience at all.
Nice analogies ! I was looking to get one of these, same year, for $12,500. It looks like they don't hold their value.
Since they can be a handful to maintain, the price has come way down...that being said, if you are comfortable with the condition of the vehicle (and it has passed a buyer's inspection at the Porsche dealer) they can be an insane value at this point.
I hope you pulled the trigger! a first gen example (06 I believe) just sold on BAT for 29k
very knowledgeable guy
thanks for the review
Nope wouldn't by that. The fx's are nice. Had one and loved it
Thank you for the 411 keep it real
Holy $#!+ dude! Thank you for this video! I truly needed to hear this!
+jaime pereira I appreciate you taking a look Jaime!
Man this guy must be the worst salesman ever. I hope for the dealer’s sake he’s not working there anymore, cause he’s not gonna make them any money. Bless his heart.
What about under the hood? Maintenance?
This video cracked me up. IMO unless its a manual Porsche its not really worth buying. This is coming from a 08 Cayenne S owner. Trade my SUV for a 02 911 anyday. Nothing beats manual people. Nooothing!!
THAT IS WHY I BOUGHT A BOXSTER to go with my Cayenne (not instead!!)...so I could have a Porsche for the rain/dirt...and one for the backroads!! But let me tell you something...it is hard for me to keep up with my wife in the Cayenne and me in my Boxster when the road gets fun!
Why bother whingeing about the cost of extras on a car you’ve taken as a trade in? Surely the fact someone has already paid for these makes it more desirable and a better second hand purchase.
I’d buy that car but from a different dealer
You might have seen from earlier comments that this car was previous Porsche certified and the couple that traded it in still had about $12000 in receipts after certification ended. We ran this car through the shop where there were about $6000 in leaks that we didn't want to fix and we sent it to the auction. That dealer immediately put it online for $4000 more than they paid at auction with no fixes...so whoever bought it immediately stepped into a $6000 headache. This exact car is the reason I take videos so seriously, because I hate seeing people get taken advantage of, even if it makes me look bad.
Waiting for him to tell me how he really feels
I own a 2008 Cayenne S as well. Great car to drive, but poor reliability after the warranty expired. I have had several expensive repairs, all related to the engine and drivetrain. A few examples: Replaced ignition coils (all 8 of them), replaced high-pressure fuel pump, replaced catalytic converter (yes, the catalytic converter). The list is long and expensive. Very disappointing. Great car to drive, though.
+Jens Roynlid Lots of power, lots of cool factor but it's a bummer when you hear how much people spend on service after the warranty expires.
Coils are a wear part, fuel pump is a common repair...cat went out because the coils being bad cause unburnt fuel into the cat...any car with misfire or rich mixture will eat the cats. The trick is to DIY! Anyone can replace the coils (they sit right on top of the engine) and the fuel pump is a little more tricky but still easy enough...Take it to a shop all the time and it will be pricey tho!
correct me if I'm wrong but an Infiniti fx is the same thing as a Nissan Murano right? how how come the infinty is not held to the same standard?
Crazy as it sounds Jay, the Infiniti and the Murano have nothing in common. The Murano is based on the Nissan Altima front wheel drive platform and the FX is built on the G35/370Z/GTR platform. People are often blown away when they drive an FX45 because they had no idea that it handles so much better than everything else. The Porsche also handles really well, it is a Porsche after all, but you'll scare yourself in an FX45 before you ever get the tires to squeal around a turn.
Thats not a good thing tho. Heres why... if im buying an suv i want one made to be and suv not a sedan or coupe but i Dont sell cars for a living so i guess im speaking out of place
@@everycarSeattle But then when you go off road, the Infinity gets stuck and the Cayenne keeps on like it is a Jeep!!
@@everycarSeattle Also, as the Cayenne squeals around a turn, you'll be squealing with a delight that the Infinity can't offer.
I've never known a salesperson to work so hard at NOT selling something AND insulting their customers. If it is so bad, why did you accept it on trade? Oh that's right, you already said it. Porsches have excellent resale value. Kirkland Infinity, home of the arrogant sales department.