The basic tech of the MG4 seems solid and the car drives great once you get the settings right. I think you get a lot of value for your money with this car. Thank you for sharing your experiences and for showing the android auto screen which I have not seen in other reviews of the car.
Thanks for these great videos. I really love the fact they're nice, bite-sized installments. When I see a review on CZcams that lasts 25 minutes or more, I can't be bothered to sit through the whole thing! 😂
Love this update, very useful info about the negative points, let's hope MG take note of them, especially the rear seatbelt anchor points, I have a similar problem with my rather elderly Volvo V70 when my grandkids are trying to get them into the anchor point. keep up the reports and the honest review of this car, as I am considering on getting one in the new year if I can get the finance sorted !
Another excellent review by you on this channel..these are the best reviews as you have both been 'living' with the car & not just reviewing it...there is a big difference..the minus points are what I term 'splitting hairs' so it's hardly not going stop your enjoyment of ownership. Battery wise winter is bound to take its toll just maybe when MG do a 'face-lift' then this issue might just be tackled. All in all excellent review & keep up the great work with the channel 👍
Great. Literally just found your last video and thought it would be nice to have a new one. Lo and behold it appeared on my screen! Look forward to the next one. Pleased you haven’t had any of the problems reported on the MG EV website or MG4 owners and fans group on Facebook. Software problems seem horrendous with some people getting trapped in their cars due to key not being recognised and many other issues to numerous to mention here. You give me hope! I really want one, cancelled my first order and have decided to wait til the new year in the hope any issues will be ironed out😊. MG do seem to be solving them.
Well I just ordered the trophy version yesterday and have a 4month wait so I'm sure there will be many updates till then, also the more expensive trophy long range (270 mile) version has the more expensive NMC battery so the range doesn't drop as bad in the winter weather.
The key reason why the range drops so much during winter months is the LFP battery used in the lower trim level MG4 (I believe your car is the lowest trim level). While LFP is cheaper and considered safer than NMC battery, its performance during cold weather is significantly worse than NMC battery. MG4's higher trim level uses NMC battery. For people who are concerned about range, the long range MG4 is a better choice.
I agree, I have had my MG in Trophy version for just 10 day so I cannot compare to summer time, but I can tell the range it's more on 190-200 miles. To be fair, on MG website it tells you the expected range in different climate condition and it's really close to what I get. Also, driving style and modes make a big difference, since I started putting it in Eco most of the time I get way better mi/kWh figures.
@@Bobblenob there are actually two different Eco modes. One is the Eco Driving mode, found among the other four (Sport, Normal, Snow and Costum) and that basically sets the accelerator response to be softer, the regen stronger, steering to normal and other less important thing, and that's what I was referring to and with that HVAC is fully working. The other one is called Eco Driving Setting (Indeed to double check), it's just an option on/off in the driving menu and I think it's just for when you're desperate to get every single watt in order to reach your destination, and I've never tried yet but I think shuts down everything that's not safety feature or legal requirement, so I would think that cuts some HVAC functions, I'll try and let you know.
@@robertgoldie5077 no she's wrong in this video, because in a previous one she specified they have the SR. Also in another previous video, the one when they fully packed the back to move stuff from house to house, the car was 100% charged and the range indicated was 180ish miles.
Great to see someone who owns a 4 still enjoying it I pick mine up on Friday can’t wait, and as for the winter battery it gets worse the colder it gets my corsa e use to drink the battery daily in the cold winter months
Good review! Most EV's suffer from the lag between turning it on and being able to move off but it can be worse on some vehicles when it allows you to select the drive mode before the car is ready and then you have to turn off and on again. My Nissan work van does it a lot because I'm impatient. Lose of range in the colder months (due to using the heater) seems a bit more than normal on the MG 4. Most EV's I've driven seem to lose 30 miles of range once the heater is on, though it obviously goes back up a little once you turn the heating off again.
Thanks for the overview, that was great. I'm waiting on delivery this week, one of the first in Australia to get the MG4 after they came out last month. Thankfully we don't have cold months here so we won't have the range issues. I've heard that the lane keep assist in the MG4 can be annoying but you didn't mention that so that's a positive I guess that it's not affecting your model/car.
My Winter experience (I live in southern Bavaria) after 10 days of use: I managed to move the car with 14 kWh/100 km which is summer-typical. The case was: I drove the car before the statistics started, so it started with a warmed car. So the main issue is the temperature of your parking place. If you have got a warm garage, the additional winter energy amount is much less. In opposite: I used the pre-heating of the battery and it took a lot of distance (20 miles) until it drops under 30 kWh/100 km. I am very excited about the next software update (end of Dec or Jan). There are lots of bugs. For example: Planned charging via App does not work, it always forgets the setting. Sometimes, I cannot heat both the front glass and the interior area. I hope that the font size gets enlarged.
I had the Peugeot e208 before & swapped out the MG4 trophy with the log range. Really pleased with the range & accuracy of the mileage prediction. In the e208 I called it EV miles that had no real world application. Love the look and general drive. Have bought a lumbar cushion for the seat. I like the higher driving position and feel of light & being able to see out. My negatives would be the lane assist and not being able to set a preferred driving pattern. Have to reset for each journey that takes time. The touch screen could be more responsive. Cruises control- you have to minimise the range it picks the car up in front or you are randomly braking and when it perceives a curve in the road it slows when there isn’t a need. I am finding the heater needs to be about 22-24oC to be warm enough. Most ‘difference’ otherwise is just me getting used to it. As my 2nd EV I am really pleased.
To be fair, the lane assist is an issue on my latest petrol Hyundai i30 [22 reg]. On the previous i30 [18 reg] it would retain the setting. This new one doesn't & insists on the full assist as the default - which is, in my opinion, downright dangerous as it takes over the steering during what I regard as quite normal driving. So it may be the price we have to pay for "modern car safety".
Great update. This cold weather will reduce an EV battery’s range. On the plus side the LFP battery loves to be charged to 100%, so you can do that every night without worry 👍
Unfortunately it is precisely because it's LFP that it is affected much more by cold weather. So although I would normally always recommend LFP for its longevity and user-friendliness, for someone who sees a lot of cold weather it might actually make more sense to get the LR for its NMC batteries. The other option of course is to pre-condition your battery before you need to drive, especially when it's still plugged in. This way the battery is already warm when you start driving and will lose less range.
Thanks for the review update. Same as Steve, I cancelled my 1st MG order after I heard owners having a few issues. However, after hearing of your dramatic reduction of range in Winter, I may wait a few more yrs until range capacity increases. Also worth remembering that one is paying the same amount of electricity for a 70 mile difference from Summer to Winter driving conditions.
@@samoyedpuppy7473 That’s a good shout. I tried 3 from the Toyota range but couldn’t get past the revy automatic gear box noise. Shame as it ticked most the boxes for me.
The reason for winter range loss is 1) that is the LFP battery, which is more sensitive to temperature loss 2) Probably the reviewer didn't do any preconditioning of the battery either. So you don't need to wait, if winter range matters to you buy the long range one without LFP battery. Btw, LFP batteries will become more and more common (as they are a lot cheaper, safer, and even less affected by degradation) so the issue won't "get better". If anything more cars will face it, as fewer models wil retain NMC batteries.
Nice update on your previous review. Mind you, you could have cleaned all the dead flies off first! 🤣😂😁. I have never owned an EV but I have one on order for delivery early 2023, the MG4 Trophy LR. Hopefully the drop in range during the winter will not be a problem for us as we hardly ever do long trips. I picked the Trophy model because I'm a lousy parker, (as well as a nosey parker), so I need the 360 camera! I look forward to the next report! I have watched scores of MG4 reports on CZcams and have yet to find any one being truly negative.
Great to see you’re still enjoying your new MG4 EV! As someone whose order doesn’t arrive until next year, these videos are a good way for me to learn more about the car.
Second try. Thank you for the comments on the rear seat belt fasteners. These details are important for daily family life with a car but rarely get covered by the usual Clarksons.👍
I’m guessing you are driving the Trophy model, the sat nav is the giveaway. Thanks for the tips as fingers crossed I’m getting the ES Longrange model around June time.
Your is the second one i have watched on this car,which we are considering very soon, and the niggles yes that milage drop is rather a lot even though in the winter we do not do the same long-distance driving it is somewhat disappointing, But all in all it still seems a very good buy at the price , Question one is do you have a home charger and is it absolutely essential, is it a complete pain searching for the charge points out there .many thanks again cheers Pete from Newark Notts
had my trophy Er for 2 months now done two long drives and a couple of niggles with it but frankly its brilliant. today drive from London back home to Brum and got a round trip on one charge with 40 miles left. Cost of charge from 10% to full was 3 quid as very cheap agile rates. I mean how can anyone deny this is there future ?
A major factor in reduction of winter range is the cabin heater which in this model is basically a fan heater run entirely of the battery. The lack of heated seats on the lower trim models mean you have to rely solely on the heater which is a less efficient way of staying warm.
aye, Seat and steering wheel heaters are pretty vital on EVs. Main cablin heater should only be used for demisting or you have more than 2 people in the car
Agreed : it is a bit hit & miss selecting drive : but where have you been for 5 months! - we do miss the feedback (we're 8000 miles in) - no major issues really!
Great presenting however the cameraman needs to invest in a few fixed camera items, a tripod and a suction mount for the car would help loads. Just a few pointers from one videographer to another(This is not my professional profile btw)
Nice video as I’m about to order the trophy I would love to know about charging times and costs at home and at public electric stations. Electric will become more expensive soon I wonder if you have done any sums versus petrol cars ?
Thanks for the videos. I've just ordered a standard range in blue. Although Id love one I couldn't justify the extra cost of the long range especially over what I'm paying for my current car and the few times each year where it might be good to have that extra 40 miles range
@@AbdoJouma I ended up buying an ex demo orange trophy in march. It was a good price and couldn't resist it. The car is very nice. It's quick enough for every day use. It handles very well and charges quickly on a rapid charger. If you are looking at the standard range mg4. Then unless you hate Tesla have a look at used model 3s these can be had for a very similar price and still come with some warranty Something to think about. I'm very happy with the car. I'm sure that you have read issues with the lane Keep assist or emergency braking but if your car is up-to-date with the latest software then this isn't an issue. Some people are getting their cars that's the dealer hasn't applied the updates and they are the ones having problems.
@@danuk2005 Thank you so much for the detailed reply. I'm actually going for the SE model but I don't really need the extra stuff so that's ok for me. I've had unlucky things with buying used cars in the last few years so honestly just wanted something new from the actual dealers. Hopefully we like it and thanks for the tips
Interesting the extent of the range drop in cold weather. Short range (compounded by the immature public charging network) and high initial purchase cost are the main things keeping me away from EVs, and while MG have answered the purchase cost question (let's hope others do too, and soon) the limited range is still an issue for me. I live in a small city where walking and cycling make a lot of sense, but have relatives and friends spread across the UK so when I drive I need a comfortable 200-300 mile range.
No heated seats and hmm no heatpump either is it on the lower trim? That will reduce the winter range by alot. Even my Hyundai Kona goes from 458km summer range down to about 350 in the coldest winter days (down to -20C) Wich i expected but then again i drive it like an ice car and never use eco mode or anything.
Look Cupra Born 77 kwh, same car as ID.3, but much better looking, better warranty and they just lower the prices to compete with Tesla, full battery can easily give you 550 km range, even 600+ km if use reasonable speeds.
Looking forward to the 6 month update. Pricing in Australia hasn't been officially released yet so I am still waiting for that before making the decision to buy.
@@Ashtarot77 MG Australia released the top of the range 64kw battery variant at $47990, not including on road costs and taxes, not sure if they will allocate the lower spec variants
I have a Kia Picanto that cost me £950. It does 60 miles to a gallon in any weather….with the heater full on in winter. I can fill it up in 5 minutes and drive for it for 500 miles.
Range is still the main talking point, particularly in winter. I was reading that over 15 degrees is the best temperature for battery operation. The average UK temperature is around 10 I believe. Certainly looks smart and well layer out, and MG are showing that a decent EV can be done at a comparable price to ice options. Glitches seem another issue, not refined to MG, but I sure it will improve.
Winter month loss of range. A sub-zero battery temp will dramatically affect charge; that's just thermodynamics, no getting around it. When it's very cold, turn on your battery preconditioner - not all the way, just for a little while - and this will warm the battery and you'll achieve full range again. This really should be done by the BMS but you can do it manually.
That is the trouble now a days - people in a hurry, if everyone gave themselves even 5 minutes there would be less road rage etc! I have the MG zs, I am still waiting for my MG4, should get it this month am told? The safety belt design at the back is to prevent kids from freeing themselves, two hands are required to attach them in. Hope this helps?
unsure what version this is might have included that i the titel. but i thot the highest version has a heatpump... if your in a cold country the its always best to buy a car with heatpump. No mather what the caresalesman says! unless you like losing a huge range in the winter
I had to move the car a few inches forward so my neighbour wouldn't be boxed in parked behind me, and the screen coming on before I could do that, wasn't a factor.
Reasons to wait until you buy imo ....Lack of rear interior light .. The odd shape steering wheel... Cheap exterior Perspex sections loud indicator sound....seat quality will not last a reasonable time..Winter range is dire ..Ltd Colour options...Not easy for disabled or elderly to enter/exit as sills are very wide...rear doors dont open far enough. Dark/drab interior. Plastic wheel covers. High beam assist/lane assist problems. Extra for a granny charger Will wait for Mk 2 before even considering.
I believe that that indicator volume can be adjusted. There are alloy wheels behind the plastic wheel covers. Granny chargers now come as standard Rear doors actually do open very wide. Unfortunately compromises have been made to keep the price low. Perhaps something like a Kia niro or Hyundai Kona would better suit you. More expensive but better range etc
Well aren't you a bundle of joy?? Kids long left home so no rear light not an issue, steering wheel shape is brilliant and front screen always visible and it works for Lewis Hamilton, Don't find the Perspex sections cheap at all and Indicator sound can be adjusted!!. Cannot comment on seat quality as after 3 months ours are still as new and driven 3,800 miles. Also I am 16 stone and 6ft 3 ins, so they have a bulk to contend with. Winter range is reduced like any other EV but we went South on M1 last weekend and averaged 204 miles with Climate set at 21 degrees which is hardly "dire".....the rest of your comments are also incorrect as we have not encountered any issue with all the other points and if it is that much of an issue having wheel covers then take them off and drive on the perfectly good Alloys underneath. Better still, get a KIA, but they also have a 35/40% range drop in Winter, but also have a 7 year warranty!!!
You should never drive a car with your hands on top of the steering wheel, a Very bad driving habit,especially with Airbags in the centre of the wheel.
The basic tech of the MG4 seems solid and the car drives great once you get the settings right. I think you get a lot of value for your money with this car. Thank you for sharing your experiences and for showing the android auto screen which I have not seen in other reviews of the car.
Thanks for these great videos. I really love the fact they're nice, bite-sized installments. When I see a review on CZcams that lasts 25 minutes or more, I can't be bothered to sit through the whole thing! 😂
Same here, a nice and concise report 👍
Thanks for taking the time to do a well presented and structured review
Watched all of your vids, great content, no fussy presentation, such a relief when contrasted with the others.
Much appreciated!
Really useful! Glad to see you guys still like it!
Thanks for support!
Love this update, very useful info about the negative points, let's hope MG take note of them, especially the rear seatbelt anchor points, I have a similar problem with my rather elderly Volvo V70 when my grandkids are trying to get them into the anchor point.
keep up the reports and the honest review of this car, as I am considering on getting one in the new year if I can get the finance sorted !
Thanks for sharing and glad you enjoyed it!
Another excellent review by you on this channel..these are the best reviews as you have both been 'living' with the car & not just reviewing it...there is a big difference..the minus points are what I term 'splitting hairs' so it's hardly not going stop your enjoyment of ownership. Battery wise winter is bound to take its toll just maybe when MG do a 'face-lift' then this issue might just be tackled. All in all excellent review & keep up the great work with the channel 👍
Glad you like them! Stay tuned for more!
Great. Literally just found your last video and thought it would be nice to have a new one. Lo and behold it appeared on my screen! Look forward to the next one. Pleased you haven’t had any of the problems reported on the MG EV website or MG4 owners and fans group on Facebook. Software problems seem horrendous with some people getting trapped in their cars due to key not being recognised and many other issues to numerous to mention here. You give me hope! I really want one, cancelled my first order and have decided to wait til the new year in the hope any issues will be ironed out😊. MG do seem to be solving them.
Well I just ordered the trophy version yesterday and have a 4month wait so I'm sure there will be many updates till then, also the more expensive trophy long range (270 mile) version has the more expensive NMC battery so the range doesn't drop as bad in the winter weather.
Glad you like the content, stay tuned for more. Thanks!
The key reason why the range drops so much during winter months is the LFP battery used in the lower trim level MG4 (I believe your car is the lowest trim level). While LFP is cheaper and considered safer than NMC battery, its performance during cold weather is significantly worse than NMC battery. MG4's higher trim level uses NMC battery. For people who are concerned about range, the long range MG4 is a better choice.
I agree, I have had my MG in Trophy version for just 10 day so I cannot compare to summer time, but I can tell the range it's more on 190-200 miles. To be fair, on MG website it tells you the expected range in different climate condition and it's really close to what I get. Also, driving style and modes make a big difference, since I started putting it in Eco most of the time I get way better mi/kWh figures.
Do you lose the AC in eco mode?
If they have 200BHP equivalent as stated then they have the long range battery - but in lower trim level
@@Bobblenob there are actually two different Eco modes.
One is the Eco Driving mode, found among the other four (Sport, Normal, Snow and Costum) and that basically sets the accelerator response to be softer, the regen stronger, steering to normal and other less important thing, and that's what I was referring to and with that HVAC is fully working.
The other one is called Eco Driving Setting (Indeed to double check), it's just an option on/off in the driving menu and I think it's just for when you're desperate to get every single watt in order to reach your destination, and I've never tried yet but I think shuts down everything that's not safety feature or legal requirement, so I would think that cuts some HVAC functions, I'll try and let you know.
@@robertgoldie5077 no she's wrong in this video, because in a previous one she specified they have the SR. Also in another previous video, the one when they fully packed the back to move stuff from house to house, the car was 100% charged and the range indicated was 180ish miles.
Great to see someone who owns a 4 still enjoying it I pick mine up on Friday can’t wait, and as for the winter battery it gets worse the colder it gets my corsa e use to drink the battery daily in the cold winter months
Good choice and agreed the battery drain in cold is the major downside of any EV unfortunately. Thanks
Brilliant 3 month review - informative. Thanks
Thanks!
Brilliant review. So helpful.
Good review! Most EV's suffer from the lag between turning it on and being able to move off but it can be worse on some vehicles when it allows you to select the drive mode before the car is ready and then you have to turn off and on again. My Nissan work van does it a lot because I'm impatient. Lose of range in the colder months (due to using the heater) seems a bit more than normal on the MG 4. Most EV's I've driven seem to lose 30 miles of range once the heater is on, though it obviously goes back up a little once you turn the heating off again.
You look very comfortable in the drivers seat. I think the car looks amazing.
Thanks for the overview, that was great. I'm waiting on delivery this week, one of the first in Australia to get the MG4 after they came out last month. Thankfully we don't have cold months here so we won't have the range issues. I've heard that the lane keep assist in the MG4 can be annoying but you didn't mention that so that's a positive I guess that it's not affecting your model/car.
My Winter experience (I live in southern Bavaria) after 10 days of use: I managed to move the car with 14 kWh/100 km which is summer-typical. The case was: I drove the car before the statistics started, so it started with a warmed car. So the main issue is the temperature of your parking place. If you have got a warm garage, the additional winter energy amount is much less. In opposite: I used the pre-heating of the battery and it took a lot of distance (20 miles) until it drops under 30 kWh/100 km.
I am very excited about the next software update (end of Dec or Jan). There are lots of bugs. For example: Planned charging via App does not work, it always forgets the setting. Sometimes, I cannot heat both the front glass and the interior area. I hope that the font size gets enlarged.
Thanks for the info!
Great review thanks.
I had the Peugeot e208 before & swapped out the MG4 trophy with the log range. Really pleased with the range & accuracy of the mileage prediction. In the e208 I called it EV miles that had no real world application. Love the look and general drive. Have bought a lumbar cushion for the seat. I like the higher driving position and feel of light & being able to see out.
My negatives would be the lane assist and not being able to set a preferred driving pattern. Have to reset for each journey that takes time. The touch screen could be more responsive. Cruises control- you have to minimise the range it picks the car up in front or you are randomly braking and when it perceives a curve in the road it slows when there isn’t a need. I am finding the heater needs to be about 22-24oC to be warm enough.
Most ‘difference’ otherwise is just me getting used to it. As my 2nd EV I am really pleased.
To be fair, the lane assist is an issue on my latest petrol Hyundai i30 [22 reg]. On the previous i30 [18 reg] it would retain the setting. This new one doesn't & insists on the full assist as the default - which is, in my opinion, downright dangerous as it takes over the steering during what I regard as quite normal driving. So it may be the price we have to pay for "modern car safety".
I enjoyed watching the Video 😀
Glad you enjoyed! Thanks
Great update. This cold weather will reduce an EV battery’s range. On the plus side the LFP battery loves to be charged to 100%, so you can do that every night without worry 👍
Thanks for the info!
Unfortunately it is precisely because it's LFP that it is affected much more by cold weather. So although I would normally always recommend LFP for its longevity and user-friendliness, for someone who sees a lot of cold weather it might actually make more sense to get the LR for its NMC batteries. The other option of course is to pre-condition your battery before you need to drive, especially when it's still plugged in. This way the battery is already warm when you start driving and will lose less range.
thank you i enjoyed watching the Video 😀
Thanks for the support!
Thanks for the review update. Same as Steve, I cancelled my 1st MG order after I heard owners having a few issues. However, after hearing of your dramatic reduction of range in Winter, I may wait a few more yrs until range capacity increases. Also worth remembering that one is paying the same amount of electricity for a 70 mile difference from Summer to Winter driving conditions.
I cancelled my MG4 Trophy order for the same reasons as you, eventually got a Toyota CHR.
@@samoyedpuppy7473 That’s a good shout. I tried 3 from the Toyota range but couldn’t get past the revy automatic gear box noise. Shame as it ticked most the boxes for me.
The reason for winter range loss is 1) that is the LFP battery, which is more sensitive to temperature loss 2) Probably the reviewer didn't do any preconditioning of the battery either. So you don't need to wait, if winter range matters to you buy the long range one without LFP battery. Btw, LFP batteries will become more and more common (as they are a lot cheaper, safer, and even less affected by degradation) so the issue won't "get better". If anything more cars will face it, as fewer models wil retain NMC batteries.
THanks for the insights on the chinese mg ev
Nice update on your previous review. Mind you, you could have cleaned all the dead flies off first! 🤣😂😁. I have never owned an EV but I have one on order for delivery early 2023, the MG4 Trophy LR. Hopefully the drop in range during the winter will not be a problem for us as we hardly ever do long trips. I picked the Trophy model because I'm a lousy parker, (as well as a nosey parker), so I need the 360 camera! I look forward to the next report! I have watched scores of MG4 reports on CZcams and have yet to find any one being truly negative.
Will hopefully be cleaner next time haha! Glad you enjoyed the video and stay tuned for more!
Great to see you’re still enjoying your new MG4 EV! As someone whose order doesn’t arrive until next year, these videos are a good way for me to learn more about the car.
I think you will be happy with your decision! Thanks
Whose is the possessive. Who's means who is.
@@markfox1545You’re correct and I have amended my comment. 👍
This is great info, as waiting for delivery of mine :-)
Great review 👍
Thank you! Cheers!
Second try. Thank you for the comments on the rear seat belt fasteners. These details are important for daily family life with a car but rarely get covered by the usual Clarksons.👍
I’m guessing you are driving the Trophy model, the sat nav is the giveaway. Thanks for the tips as fingers crossed I’m getting the ES Longrange model around June time.
would have been nice if you have shown the start up time and how long it actually did take to kick in
Thanks for the review. Are you driving a MG4 Standard or Comfort / Luxury version?
Can you please do a video on a cold start to see how long it takes to defrost on a cold morning. Cheers
Your is the second one i have watched on this car,which we are considering very soon, and the niggles yes that milage drop is rather a lot even though in the winter we do not do the same long-distance driving it is somewhat disappointing, But all in all it still seems a very good buy at the price , Question one is do you have a home charger and is it absolutely essential, is it a complete pain searching for the charge points out there .many thanks again cheers Pete from Newark Notts
Thank you… good to see confidence and quality of presentation improving. Average kWh/mile to date?
We are returning 3.4kwh on average. Thanks for the support!
had my trophy Er for 2 months now done two long drives and a couple of niggles with it but frankly its brilliant. today drive from London back home to Brum and got a round trip on one charge with 40 miles left. Cost of charge from 10% to full was 3 quid as very cheap agile rates. I mean how can anyone deny this is there future ?
A major factor in reduction of winter range is the cabin heater which in this model is basically a fan heater run entirely of the battery. The lack of heated seats on the lower trim models mean you have to rely solely on the heater which is a less efficient way of staying warm.
Useful knowledge - thanks
aye, Seat and steering wheel heaters are pretty vital on EVs. Main cablin heater should only be used for demisting or you have more than 2 people in the car
Nah it's the LFP batteries they hate the cold
Agreed : it is a bit hit & miss selecting drive : but where have you been for 5 months! - we do miss the feedback (we're 8000 miles in) - no major issues really!
Amazing review! MG4 is surely in our plans for 2023. I love your jumper btw, where is it from?
Jumper is from a shop on the high street
Great info, how are you charging your car, are you using the three pin plug cable or have you had a fast charger fitted .👌👍
Currently using the 3 pin plug. Thanks
It does look good
When I had a Zoe the cold winter weather took about 30% off the range so pretty comparable.
Yeah its the unfortunate reality of battery tech. Thanks for the support and comment.
Perhaps you can do a similar review for your i20N to see how it’s still stacking up? Would love to hear your thoughts!
Coming soon! Thanks
How’s the sound system in the car? I know the SE doesn’t have rear speakers.
Really, really…….reeeeeeaaaaalllllly good review 🎉🎉🎉
Maybe you can fix the seatbelt issue with some decent velcro that attaches the holder to the car seat?
Can't wait to get my new MG4 👀
Great presenting however the cameraman needs to invest in a few fixed camera items, a tripod and a suction mount for the car would help loads. Just a few pointers from one videographer to another(This is not my professional profile btw)
Nice video as I’m about to order the trophy I would love to know about charging times and costs at home and at public electric stations. Electric will become more expensive soon I wonder if you have done any sums versus petrol cars ?
Great suggestion! We have done a video on fast charging but could look into doing one about home charging times and costs. Thanks
I'm surprised you didn't mention the annoying Keep Lane Assist - it's really intrusive and feels dangerous.
Thanks for the videos. I've just ordered a standard range in blue.
Although Id love one I couldn't justify the extra cost of the long range especially over what I'm paying for my current car and the few times each year where it might be good to have that extra 40 miles range
Yeah the short range was perfect for us, obviously if you do alot of long journeys that would be different. Thanks
How have you been finding it? and how long was the wait please
@@AbdoJouma I ended up buying an ex demo orange trophy in march. It was a good price and couldn't resist it.
The car is very nice. It's quick enough for every day use. It handles very well and charges quickly on a rapid charger.
If you are looking at the standard range mg4. Then unless you hate Tesla have a look at used model 3s these can be had for a very similar price and still come with some warranty
Something to think about.
I'm very happy with the car. I'm sure that you have read issues with the lane Keep assist or emergency braking but if your car is up-to-date with the latest software then this isn't an issue.
Some people are getting their cars that's the dealer hasn't applied the updates and they are the ones having problems.
@@danuk2005 Thank you so much for the detailed reply. I'm actually going for the SE model but I don't really need the extra stuff so that's ok for me. I've had unlucky things with buying used cars in the last few years so honestly just wanted something new from the actual dealers. Hopefully we like it and thanks for the tips
@@AbdoJoumaOur reason too! 7 year warranty gave us peace of mind
Is that a Breitling Navitimer? Lovely taste of watch here😍
For any EV in winter (UK), i always say -25-30% total summer range, and it's about golden. That seems correct to me.
Interesting the extent of the range drop in cold weather. Short range (compounded by the immature public charging network) and high initial purchase cost are the main things keeping me away from EVs, and while MG have answered the purchase cost question (let's hope others do too, and soon) the limited range is still an issue for me. I live in a small city where walking and cycling make a lot of sense, but have relatives and friends spread across the UK so when I drive I need a comfortable 200-300 mile range.
No heated seats and hmm no heatpump either is it on the lower trim? That will reduce the winter range by alot. Even my Hyundai Kona goes from 458km summer range down to about 350 in the coldest winter days (down to -20C) Wich i expected but then again i drive it like an ice car and never use eco mode or anything.
Hi , have you still got the MG 4 , and how is it going
Have you found the windscreen washers working ok when traveling fast on the motorway?
Not a problem we have encountered they have worked just fine. Thanks
Very useful review. I've got a company car petrol VW Golf, but next car has to be electric. MG4 looks more attractive than ID3.
Look Cupra Born 77 kwh, same car as ID.3, but much better looking, better warranty and they just lower the prices to compete with Tesla, full battery can easily give you 550 km range, even 600+ km if use reasonable speeds.
Th ask for the update guys! Has the lack of a light in the back been annoying when getting kids into car at night?
Its definetly not ideal! But its manageable. Thanks
Looking forward to the 6 month update. Pricing in Australia hasn't been officially released yet so I am still waiting for that before making the decision to buy.
The SE is about £24-£26k in the UK. I got one through work last week and it's such a dream to drive. Still early days though.
@@Ashtarot77 MG Australia released the top of the range 64kw battery variant at $47990, not including on road costs and taxes, not sure if they will allocate the lower spec variants
I would have said that amount of range drop for the winter is about right
Im waiting for it to own . 10 days and it will be in my garage ❤❤
Ill will tell you then about it
there s been reveiws saying you can ony connect one smart phone to the mg4 to check the charging status ect,
Hi you didn’t mention the absence of the central rear headrest or missing grab handles
Hi, we did pick up on that on a earlier video l. However you are correct it is a pain! Thanks for the comment.
I have a Kia Picanto that cost me £950. It does 60 miles to a gallon in any weather….with the heater full on in winter.
I can fill it up in 5 minutes and drive for it for 500 miles.
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Good morning!
I didn't like that the standard version doesn't turn on the rear LEDs completely :/
Good job 👌
That range problem in winter is solved when you choose the more expensive trim because then you get a heat pump as standard.
Unfortunately not in the UK.
No passenger roof light either! That would drive me mad
Range is still the main talking point, particularly in winter. I was reading that over 15 degrees is the best temperature for battery operation. The average UK temperature is around 10 I believe.
Certainly looks smart and well layer out, and MG are showing that a decent EV can be done at a comparable price to ice options.
Glitches seem another issue, not refined to MG, but I sure it will improve.
"From the offset"...what you mean is "From the outset". What you said, means something completely different
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Winter month loss of range. A sub-zero battery temp will dramatically affect charge; that's just thermodynamics, no getting around it. When it's very cold, turn on your battery preconditioner - not all the way, just for a little while - and this will warm the battery and you'll achieve full range again. This really should be done by the BMS but you can do it manually.
That is the trouble now a days - people in a hurry, if everyone gave themselves even 5 minutes there would be less road rage etc!
I have the MG zs, I am still waiting for my MG4, should get it this month am told? The safety belt design at the back is to prevent kids from freeing themselves, two hands are required to attach them in. Hope this helps?
The first thing I said to my wife was that you sounded like you were from "round here", then you drove past Teesside Park.
Echa un poco más el asiento hacía delante, que todavía puedes.
Your steering wheel is on the wrong side of the car love 😂
My leaf 40 shows 160 in summer and 130 winter .
Its the main downside to EV's. Unfortunately you lose some range when cold. Thanks
What is your insurance like for the MG4? I’ve heard EV insurance is harder to find / more expensive?
Good points, but you seem to be in a hurry more often than not 😂
218 miles to 150 miles drop is shocking.
It’s fairly typical for EV’s in winter.
Keep atleast one hand on the steering wheel
Get a rear seat belt extender from an auto accessory shop.
unsure what version this is might have included that i the titel.
but i thot the highest version has a heatpump...
if your in a cold country the its always best to buy a car with heatpump. No mather what the caresalesman says! unless you like losing a huge range in the winter
The car is the short range version. Thanks for the comment!
the difference in mileage between winter and summer to me is a deal breaker
150 Miles.ouch it's hybrid for me.i like my 300 plus miles.
Range drops so quick cos your car is entry level that’s the reason unfortunately..but you can’t get cheaper then mg4 on ev market 🧐🧐
I had to move the car a few inches forward so my neighbour wouldn't be boxed in parked behind me, and the screen coming on before I could do that, wasn't a factor.
When you turn on Air-condition MG4, you can hear very loud annoying noise anyone agree with me? (you have to hear it from outside of the car)
Wowthe indicators are not only loud but an anoying click making me less likely to indicate.
at the moment I wouldn't buy one for 6 to 12 months as they are still working out the bugs
rev it :P
Reasons to wait until you buy imo ....Lack of rear interior light .. The odd shape steering wheel... Cheap exterior Perspex sections loud indicator sound....seat quality will not last a reasonable time..Winter range is dire ..Ltd Colour options...Not easy for disabled or elderly to enter/exit as sills are very wide...rear doors dont open far enough. Dark/drab interior. Plastic wheel covers. High beam assist/lane assist problems. Extra for a granny charger Will wait for Mk 2 before even considering.
I believe that that indicator volume can be adjusted. There are alloy wheels behind the plastic wheel covers.
Granny chargers now come as standard
Rear doors actually do open very wide.
Unfortunately compromises have been made to keep the price low.
Perhaps something like a Kia niro or Hyundai Kona would better suit you.
More expensive but better range etc
Well aren't you a bundle of joy?? Kids long left home so no rear light not an issue, steering wheel shape is brilliant and front screen always visible and it works for Lewis Hamilton, Don't find the Perspex sections cheap at all and Indicator sound can be adjusted!!. Cannot comment on seat quality as after 3 months ours are still as new and driven 3,800 miles. Also I am 16 stone and 6ft 3 ins, so they have a bulk to contend with. Winter range is reduced like any other EV but we went South on M1 last weekend and averaged 204 miles with Climate set at 21 degrees which is hardly "dire".....the rest of your comments are also incorrect as we have not encountered any issue with all the other points and if it is that much of an issue having wheel covers then take them off and drive on the perfectly good Alloys underneath. Better still, get a KIA, but they also have a 35/40% range drop in Winter, but also have a 7 year warranty!!!
Leg room for someone 6,2 feet
Hands down the worst car I ever driven. Mine will up for sale in Jan. Cannot get comfy in the seats at all. Also there are no parts in the country.
0:01 My MG4 sounds very different...
haha!
You should never drive a car with your hands on top of the steering wheel, a Very bad driving habit,especially with Airbags in the centre of the wheel.
You spent more than twice to a comparable fuel efficient car. How do you feel about sending that much money to the Chinese? Typical dumb consumer
You think 'the Chinese' or some billionaires don't own everything else in your world? Which car would you buy for £12,500 new?
Total nonsense. A mid range polo is £22k. With an EV you could save £500 a year on fuel.
Ps. Tesla makes a large number of its cars in China.
I love the way every moron who buys one of these milk floats and thinks they're green for doing so accelerates it hard so they consume tyres quickly.
Plenty of non-electric morons still on the roads from what I can see. Why should they have all the fun?
I’ve never seen anyone wheel spin an EV. But then again I’m not a moron making crap up.