"Reformed" is not Enough & Sola Fide | Doug Wilson
Vložit
- čas přidán 5. 12. 2019
- In this episode of Ask Doug, Pastor Doug Wilson answers questions about his book "Reformed is Not Enough" and the protestant doctrine of sola fide.
Ask Doug is presented by Canon Press.
Doug saying “exactly” cracks me up every time. I love this guy.
As much as I would love to throw stones, this checks out.
Respect to you for you probably feel very agitated by the language of “covenant unfaithfulness in the gospel”
8:29 I felt that "exactly"
edit: I'm also using "Bapterians" from now on.
I'm no Wilson'ite, but man oh man I wish the Pharisee's would stop throwing stones at him. It is unfortunate this brother has had to defend himself so often, never to fully atone for his "errors."
Please better explain your comment. My understanding is that Pastor Wilson is kindly describing what he meant (grace in use because Grace had been given by God).
Im a total Wilson'ite, but judging from CZcams comments, I'm also the number one stone thrower. I love this man, but there's some Calvinist crust that needs removal.
All fall short. Christ Christ Christ and less man
@@bh613 Amen, but I myself have never seen Jesus. I have never seen the Father either. I have seen Christians who have the Holy Spirit. "He who receives you receives me, and the one who receives me receives him who sent me." (Matthew 10:40)
@@duncescotus2342 Maybe the crust is on you and keeping you from seeing the doctrine of election clearly taught in Scripture?
Thank you for this. I pray that the “too reformed” crowd will listen and calm down.
Silent Cal no, nothing so easily defined. I mean people whose knowledge and love of their confession comes out much more starkly than their love for Gods word. Not that I think that’s what they mean. It’s just that they make all these charges against Wilson that just don’t pan out, but maintain that somehow he is violating orthodoxy per their confession.
There is 2 kind of faith:
1. God centris(GC) , oriented for God shake.
2. Ego centris(EC) , oriented for human error.
GC is always oposite EC, we can not, we can not, yes we can not compromize 2 kind become one. EGO CENTRIS FOR GOD CENTRIS, its purity form. THAT NONSENSE.
too reformed is very good its a spirit enthusiasm to always GC.
BUT the stupitidy for humans is always TRY HARD TO INSERT/PENETRATE BETWEEN. may God fix your kind of false.
Rainer Sany yes, saving Faith is a gift of God, given to His elect. I don’t know what error you think you’re opposing.
@@TheBeginningOfWisdom Every NAPARC denomination has written decisions against FV. Doug Wilson still affirms a conditional, temporary baptismal union with Christ that confers upon the baptized temporary election, temporary adoption, and a temporary union with Christ. Doug Wilson still affirms that those who don't sufficiently cooperate will lose those benefits. "I mean people whose knowledge and love of their confession comes out much more starkly than their love for God's word." Andrew, I expect better from you.
Carmen Siekierke citation?
I love how they are putting these out in response to recent, very unfair, criticism! Love you brother Doug!
Agree wholeheartedly.
The real question is when will "Reformed is not Enough" be on audible?
WLC in his defenders class said, "this is not of yourself, it is a gift of God..." refers not to the faith itself, but to the entire system of being saved by grace. Any thoughts?
Sounds good from what you say here, though it is a bit minimal and I haven't heard WLC's full explanation. Pretty much any Reformed scholar would agree. Even Mike Winger in a video against Calvinism made that point.
That means it's not just salvation that is the gift, nor just the grace, nor just the salvation and the grace. It is all of it, the salvation, the grace, _and_ the faith. You can't separate out the faith as if it is something man produces and leave the salvation and grace as God's contribution, as if we purchase salvation through the exchange of faith (such would match an example of works that Paul uses elsewhere).
Thus faith is a gift. Not a gift alone, but a gift that is inseparably part of salvation by grace through faith all of which is given by God so that none may boast. Faith comes from God, not man, or as other passages would say, our belief is the work of God (John 6: 29) and is authored by Christ, not man (Heb 12: 2).
Funny enough Calvin in his comments on ephesians did not say that the faith was a gift but that salvation was the gift.
The real thing that many see is that can anyone have faith and does God save anyone or desire all to be saved? That's the hangup most non-calvinists have. What does the bible mean in those places? Does God love the world or not? Is election the same election in OT or did it change? Or is it something else?
These and other questions many non reformed people have
has anyone noticed that CZcams's comment box has shrunk dramatically and the arrow to the right is no longer blue 🤔 funny how this changed overnight
People don't fall away from the covenant because the ones who fall away were only under the administration of the covenant but God never chose them. In this video Doug says those who fall away were not elect but Federal Vision doctrine teaches that elect, covenant children who are saved can fall away and perish in hell.
We are saved by the gift of works. Works include repentance, belief (faith), and application. These are all a gift of God. There is no distinction between salvation by works and salvation by grace, because both works and faith are gifts given freely by the Spirit and made possible by the blood of Christ.
Reformed is not enough. Transformed is.
So then, with all that being said, why the seeming split with James Jordan and Peter Leithart when all that seems to have happened with them is to give the category of “unregenerate but in the covenant” some further definition? Doug says “those who are unregenerate but in the covenant are a part of Christ in some way and the apostate fall away from that”. Aren’t Jordan and Leithart just trying to answer the question what does being joined to Christ but not regenerate mean? Aren’t they just trying to give the answers biblical categories?
Getting my mind around the last comments, reminds me of Jesus speaking in Mark 7:7-13. Not one Scripture verse is speaking to infants, and so a tradition 'of men' has been promoted. This tradition would be good if it was from God, but I fail to see it in 'words easy to be understood' (1Cor.14:9), so when some one (any one) will show me such love, I definitely will give it godly contemplation, as I too believe that God means 'all men' to be saved (1Tim.4:10,11).
How do I autonomously prepare myself to repent?
Doug Wilson sounds legit sometimes because he changes the meaning of words. So when he said 'faith' he means 'obedience'. He also makes new categories of obedience that the Bible doesn't make; Works, good works, obedience, meritorious works are different categories in his playbook.
@2:30, the faith is of your generating. The salvation is not of your generating. Greek has prefixes and suffixes that English doesn't have to help the reader understand what words are connected to each other. The word "that" is connected to "saved". The salvation is not of ourselves. In English, it's a bit ambiguous and the reader can decide for themselves if it means the faith is the gift, or salvation is the gift. Ask yourself if God gave you faith, or God gave you salvation based on your faith. It honestly doesn't even make sense for God to "give us" our belief. If God makes our decisions for us, we're no longer people, but robots just running through our programming. Why even believe at that point? If you don't believe, just sit back and enjoy Hell because that's where God wants you, right? Why do what the Bible says to do? Just relax and know you'll end up where God wants you... no, God's not willing that any should perish, but that ALL should come to repentance. All means All, not just a subset of all. He wants everybody to repent. You need to have faith, and then he gives you salvation.
Well put
Doug, as a 'post mil' believer, knowing 'reformed is not enough', how can you say all this without mentioning 'the grace of God' is what justifies? 'Being justified (by God, our justifier, and His grace, Rom.3:24-26) by faith we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ...' (Rom.5:1,2).
What gives? No replies worthy of such a great video opportunity?!!
perseverance is also by grace
@@michaelbergman6441
Amen to that! The Spirit of grace and supplications helps us (Eph.6:18) to always pray, and faint not.
Reformed means, in the NT, 'reproved, corrected, instructed' by God's 'every Scripture'...'All Scripture (given by inspiration of God) is even profitable for Doctrine, for reproof (in righteousness), for correction (in righteousness), for instruction in righteousness: (So) that the man of God may be perfect (complete and fresh, used this one time in Scripture)...' (2Tim.3:16,17). Something to consider 'diligently'.
Why would God sovereignly save us so that we could not boast as if it was something we could be held responsible for, and not sovereignly keep us from sin which he does hold us responsible for? This shows the inconsistency of Calvinism.
Correct, 'reformed is not enough' because correction and instruction is not enough...faith is a seed planted by the LORD, generating faithfulness unto the LORD. The non-elect are non-sheep, non-meek in heart, and not seeking righteousness and meekness (Ps.149:4, Zeph.2:3) and do not have 'Christ living in them' (Gal.2:20) and have NOT true 'grace granted unto them for their pride and selfwill' (1Pet.5:5). All believers are exhorted to add to their faith and make their calling and election 'sure' (2Pet.1:10). Preach it, brother, faithfulness and faith are inseparable!
Correct, believing babies should be baptized...hmmmm!
2:22... 'I say that, faith is every thing...'
I agree, if you are saying that Faith, that is, 'the faith of God' is every thing, that is, 'Christ is All', because His faith, becoming our faith, and His righteousness becoming our righteousness, is every thing to God...but explanations seem to be in order here...this video is way too short!
Are there any infants baptized in the NT⁉️.... Hmm, no⁉️ I wonder why🤔💭..... 😁😉
Not specifically I agree 🤠😁 but when Cornelius and his household were baptized, it didn't mentioned except for the children either. Which if you really let the text speak for itself, then from the oldest to the youngest, infants included.... what do you think????❤️❤️❤️❤️
@@anthonycalipjo8669 Good point 😊.... Honestly, this hasn't been a topic I've delved into to try & find a definitive answer, since it's not a primary issue, but here lately I've been coming across passages that might be used to support a case either way.... Regardless, the spiritual reality of a holy God cleansing undeserving, rebellious sinners of their guilt is a glorious Truth!! Amen??
@@mcoz6934 maybe this may help too, although it doesn't say infants but children, meaning still minor and under the parents supervision.... Matthew 18:3 Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of God. Because baptism is a means to be introduced into the family of God...❤️❤️❤️
Focusing on infants is wrong. The Bible isn't ageist, and the Biblical practice is to baptize the whole household of the believing head just like we see in Acts. It follows from Peter's appeal to Gen 17 given in Acts 2. Now if only Baptists would give the sign of the covenant not just to the believer, but their children and those who are far off just as God instructed Abraham.
Why not spend some time on your views on works in final justification, and what you mean by the imputation of Christ’s active obedience. Using language that mirrors orthodoxy doesn’t make you reformed. This is the cloud that causes the uproar on Twitter. Those who study these things are not fooled, and parroting the same discussion that doesn’t get to the point will not make it go away.
Nothing the man says will ever convince the permanent-DW-police.
GracetoThee I’m not that........at all. But we can’t keep talking past each other using similar sounding words and thinking it’s ok. It’s deceptive bro. For people who don’t study these things it’s ok I guess. But these are serious issues and he refuses to address what he knows what these critics are talking about.
@@roaddawgbowser1689 Glad you know his motives and secret choices. Can you do a reading on other well-known figures?
This is exactly it
a twitter bitter beater battle
@the 7 minutes mark you just nailed it Mr. Doug, apostasy. Unconsciously you just described Luther, Calvin, etc... who really doesn't have any roots in the faith. In addition that makes you one of them...how does that sound??? You see, the Bible never fails, you condemn the people who gets out of your Calvinistic faith as though they were not truly save, but the rule that you used to measure others is the same rule that God will use to condemn yourself... full circle...ironic but only those who are new in the faith cannot see the flaws of your reasoning... 😅😄🤣
Oh dear this misses the obvious point that any time someone turns away from God and loses their salvation is always against God's will. 1Tim 24
The Sovereignty of God it's to worship Him in Spirit and truth and never as a trinity of three different beings never teach and the reformers ALL fail profoundly at this.You are still worshiping the triune god(s) of the roman catholic and you all destroy God first commandment to the profit of men traditions born in 325 a.d.
You guys have turned the Gospel and salvation into a convoluted, academic and theological train wreck.
absolutely right they are philosophers like Plato and Philo.