August - Is Solo Queue the only REAL QUEUE? /How do you Make Flex Queue Get Taken Seriously?
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- čas přidán 5. 08. 2024
- 0:00 - How Much Randomness Do people WANT from ARAM?
1:56 - August on RANKED ARAM/ARAM CLASH
3:25 - August Explains ARAM MMR
4:29 - Why Not Ranked and Normal ARAM?
6:10 - How do you Make Flex Queue Get Taken Seriously?
8:15 - Is Solo Queue the only REAL QUEUE?
11:44 - Why was Ranked Teams Deleted?
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aram is definitely for that league itch of "lets skip the laning and just 5v5" without the other cringes. The only thing i wouldnt mind seeing is some aram objs to play around.
yeah all we got are the relics which aren't that impactful and some people don't play around :/ they should've made volibear an objective during his rework event. also there's the low hanging fruit of making a watcher the objective for aram which would be super cool but would have really weird lore implications
The problem is 5v5 is the worst part of league. Closely followed by laning phase.
@@TheCosmicAstro- what exactly do you enjoy about league then 5v5s are so fun
@peterthepanda5191 small skirmishes(2v2 maybe 3v3) and 1v1.
5v5 is just a cluster fuck. Not even remotely fun to me
@@TheCosmicAstro- i suggest playing single player games at this point
The 5 friends line was so sudden I couldn't stop laughing. The entire time he was serious then suddenly this line.
I wish ARAM had a bit more forced team comp diversity. So often you end up with 10 ranged champs and the first 20 minutes of the game is just waveclearing with no turret taking any damage.
And unfortunately if you see 4 of your teammates picking ranged, it's usually correct for you to do so as well unless you can pick a very tanky tank. A lone fighter into most ARAM comps will just explode instantly.
Yeah or you loose to not having a single dps character and the enemy team has strong tanks and bruisers, the amount of arams me and my friends loose to not even getting the option to pick an adc is super annoying
I just want there to be weighted percent chance that if x champ was in your last game they have a lower chance the next game because having an enemy pyke 5 games in a row or lucian/draven is exhausting and makes the game stale. The free rotation makes this happen often
Your aram games and my aram games are very different
enforced double melee slots so that people can't just go 5 mages and turn the match into the most boring poke fest ever. only 3 players at a time can hold on to a ranged unit.
Stat anvils are a stretch but item anvils may be ok, as sometimes you feel like any completed item is enough of a power spike to put you back into the fight in a relevant manner.
ARAM needs to have all champs available for everyone so that people that camp the game mode with tailor made accounts with the perfect champs can stop destroying the game mode
u can roll any champ in aram, u just need to own the champ to grab it if ur team mate rerolls
You act like there's not a rotating free champion pool, and a set of champions that are always open in ARAM.
ARAM accounts have little to no affect on anything.
Things destroying the game mode is shit like the way Viego interacts with the game in it, or when they tried spicing things up and set up killboxes next to dead towers.
Yes except for the fact that when the free champ pool shows up in every game it feels stale having those champs in game repetitively
I really miss ranked team queues. You could make a name, have a roster it was really nice.
The only thing I wish they made for ARAM is to allow you a 30 or so champion pool that you can pick for yourself that your random picks are drawn from. I legitimately stopped unlocking characters I don’t like because I don’t want to see them in ARAM. That’s silly
People like the idea of ranked aram, but in reality it will just be dodge if you dont get a good comp or lose, the higher you climb the more time spent dodgeing
At the highest levels of the ARAM MMR that's all that happens. People make specific accounts with only limited numbers of the best ARAM champs unlocked and then queue and dodge over and over again until they get the comp they want.
none of my social group plays league, i have like 3 dudes i play league with but were all in our 30s so its rare were all on at the same time.
Melee vs ranged balance is non existent. Especially immobile melee
Dynamic que sucks to be honest. If all games had both the option to play dynamic or solo q, I'd argue 90% of people would choose soloq.
Its interesting as a rocket league player the game used to have standard (3v3 dynamic queue) and solo standard (3v3 solo queue) and they removed solo standard because its playrate was so low everyone just played standard even when solo queuing.
Aram technically isnt "real teamfighting," bc it has the same issue rift does, but its even more pathetic that people are willing to take anything less than a 5v5 just because "my cooldowns are up i go in even though its 3v5 or 4v5" its no longer real when that happens literally every game
What I think is stupid is the fact that the same pool of champs in ARAM are available to everyone. This means ARAM gets flooded with karma, ezreal, lux, ashe and every game is the same and no longer 'all random'
No, that's good actually, IT was Changed because ppl Had Aram only Account with only Poke champs.
If they want flex to be taken seriously they need to get rid of all the wintraders
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soloq should be for solo players only, duos and trios should be playing flex
Theses days If I'll say I Platinum, I'll get laughed on
It used to be better perceived last year before the introduction of Emerald, but nowadays it's the equivalent of gold, which is considered low elo
they absolutely do need to remove duo queue from soloqueue ranked.
it completely ruins the competitive integrity of ranked, however little it has anyway.
keeping the ability to queue with friends in a ranked environment is fine, but having those people go against soloqueue players is just egregious.
Naw man ranked ARAM would be like the absolute antithesis of what the mode is supposed to be
Well it already is tbh. Ppl sweat so hard in Aram even Harder than in ranks sometimes.
I didnt know aram clash existed. That sounds HORRENDOUS.
Purely RNG team comps in a competitive environment sounds like one of the least competitive things ive ever heard.
Bring Dominion back 😢
Does he even know that trynda has insane aram buffs and ziggs has nerfs ?
why do those champs need those buffs and nerfs? Because the champs themselves are not suited / suited for ARAM
and ziggs is stil much better than tryndamere in aram
For a reason, Trynd is absolute horseshit in the mode
Sona, in spite of *huge* Aram nerfs, still is one of the best champions in the game mode. Aram balancing isn't anywhere near strong enough to make up for innate strengths and weaknesses of some champions.
honestly only thing I disagree with here is the Overwatch take. I think Overwatch was a way more fun and interesting game when it was people messing around with 6 stack Bastion and just goofing off with their friends. Competitive Overwatch drained all the fun out of the game, especially since it still doesn’t have any good party modes to replace that original relaxed fun.
They should release a battle royale mode with a big map
People take aram too seriously now. it isnt as enjoyable anymore😢
If league launched with dynamic queue, the game wouldn't be as toxic.
Exactly, i dont know why they dont have it.
People abused dynamic queue and role swapped to lane vs lower mmr opponents unfortunately, was only fun for a short while
@@shutupMaji I take it back.
League is and will always be the most toxic game, there is nothing that can be done or could have been done to prevent this.
league isn't much more toxic than other top tier competitive games. people just like to pretend that it is. ofc, if we're talking about tac shooters, those have voice chat and that changes things a little bit.
then we also have to ask the question, what does toxicity even mean for you? passive aggressive pinging? insulting in chat? soft inting or griefing games / giving up?
league is the most competitive game on the planet, and it's good that way. dynamic queue was a disgusting, rancid piece of shit and we're all blessed to have left it behind us for several years now.
there are surely ways to better combat toxicity though, but that would require riot to actually be interested in that in the first place. handing out definitive perma bans to people like yamato who have consistently, over the course of many years, shown such abhorrent behavior that they should never be allowed to play the game again. creators being able to literally do and say whatever they want is a big part of the problem, just sends all the wrong signals to the community.
@shutupMaji dont allow people to que together if the mmr difference is to big? Its that simple. EVERY other game does it and theres no problems. League needs to catch up.
Unless you are totally boosted by premades in flex, I've found that you're usually inflated by 1-2 divisions compared to solo queue. So if you're D2 in flex I'm confident you can hit D4 in solo queue. The prestige is there, if you think a master flex player won't totally smoke a platinum solo queue player then you're delusional.
One sample isn't enough to make conclusions. My own rank on flex is 2 entire ranks, soon to be 3, below my soloQ rank despite usually displaying a similar level of play (the reason being that I flex with 2 different groups with varying levels of skill, leading to complete chaos) and I've seen my fair share of Emerald soloQ players grinding all the way up to flex Masters.
The absence of a unified mindset regarding flex hurts its competitivity really hard.
thats cap. flex, just due to the nature of the queue, is waaay easier than soloq, it's just a question of how many games you play. I have played with teams in the past here and there, and the amount of people who are masters in flex and low emerald dwellers in soloq is insane.
I had a silver jungler on enemy team, i know that guy was feshy when he held the wave after i killed my enemy toplaner, i cheked his account and found out he was plat in flex, weird that plat flex can play silver soloq but RIOT moment or whatever i guess
from my experience people are inflated up to 800 lp in flex
If only ARAM wasn't random I'd play it.
Hey if you can find 9 other people who agree with you there you can make a howling abyss custom game and have your non-random-all-mid match. You can even have draft picks iirc.
@@henriquepacheco7473 I know, but it still has buffs and nerfs to champs and that also sucks for customs.
@@coldfire6679 fair enough, even if a non-random ARAM without the balance changes would make the stronger champs kinda must-picks (like, every team would have a ziggs, sona and such power picks)
@@henriquepacheco7473 Yeah and I wouldn't mind, because then we'd start picking counters to those meta strong champs, etc. First URF was the best, everything was broken and that's alright because that was what made it fun. If I wanna play seriously I'll go to summoner's rift.
@@coldfire6679sounds like u wanna take aram seriously if you wanna ever play it too. It would get boring af if there was not random draft feature, just like urf. Urf was only fun because it was fresh and there was a lot of unique stuff to try, once you tried everything it was sorta stale, especially playing against absolutely broken stuff every game like AD malz that perma summons minions and proxies all towers or trynd afk splitting the whole game and you cant fight him ever cuz his ults always up and his e is on 0 cd.
His argument that ranked ARAM would make regular ARAM different is silly. So many people play normal drafts rather than solo/duo, and people in those games play so many silly or off meta picks. Idk man I think the same would be true of ARAM
Idk I see lots of sweats in norms
@@WoodsRunnerI'm sweaty in every game mode because people like to shit talk
i wish they add a summoners rift ranked mode with skill matchup and not this forced 50% winrate bullshit making the most time wasted possible and the worst experience possible to everyone
Imo lol is not a team game because how well you perform in the game depends mainly on how good you perform individually. If it was a team game you could put a iron player in a challenger team and that guy would be able to play on the same level as the challemger players.
If solo/duo had duo removed, flex would be taken more seriosly and it would feel so much better to not have a dedicated duo with a jg to camp one lane only whether if it's losing or winning.
I mean not really since changing solo/duo doesn’t change flex since you can already play in 2,3, and 5 man in flex
@@wchye9734 It does change Flex because now you are forced to play play it for duo ranked. This means the Flex population increases and thus the quality of Flex matchmaking and with it the culture, seriousness and prestige. I actively play solo/duo only solo because I hate that duo even exists. But I play duo in Flex and Trio in Flex and full premade in Flex (and Normals if people aren't up for sweating which is great). It takes so long to find a queue as a trio in Flex because duos default to solo, which makes Flex not only worse at matchmaking, it also increases queue times so it discourages Flex further.
Flex queue is perfect for duos. Yes, if you play against 5 premades you'll have a short term disadvantage. But if you take the game seriously, you can easily rise above those odds. There is only so much coordination and individual skill that a 5-stack can compensate for until the absolute highest ranks - which if you get to play it, it's great because it's really high skill league of legends which is fun.
Flex isn't prestigious because a huge majority of duos don't play it and same goes for solo's. Everyone plays solo queue - the best queue to improve at your own skill in League. I enjoy all League modes (except ARAM because nobody seems to give af and that's so mindless and boring to me) but seeing duos in solo queue sucks. And waiting for a few extra minutes for a duo in Flex is very annoying.
@@SiMeGamer I mean maybe but I only see that argument working if you remove trios so you can only solo duo in flex and regular rank Q is solely just solo. Since as long as solo Q exist people will always take that over flex even if flex were to change to no trios or 5 mans
If duo is removed from solo/duo everybody plays alone. Simple a s that. The prestige and importance of the queues stay the same. People are already devaluing duo players so I can't imagine anyone giving anymore shits about flex if that was the only way to play duo.
This guy is such a centrist, almost conservative in his answers, there is barely any value to what he says.
He does nothing but explain the status quo but doesn't put to light the type of values the current system encourages. It's so obvious on the point about soloQ and flex, he says "the current system makes this kind of culture", YES YOU ARE A DESIGNER, YOU CHOSE WHAT TYPE OF CULTURE YOUR SYSTEMS PROMOTE. You can make changes to make "flex" or team type of Q be taken more seriously and have more prestige and flip how it is (to talk about it while conceading his point of "one Q will be favored over another" wich I don't even fully agree with)
"If you want to be good at league of legend you need to no life go solo on your own" YES, the system promoted this culture for a while and still does. You couldn't duo in master+. And August has the data himself just like we do, he knows people play a bit more in diamond than the rest per account. Than WAY more in master and more again in gm/chall.
"They don't have 5 friends they can play with repeatably" I agree, but you could make it so this is the serious way to play and it's okay if you can't do it all the time. And your performance in a team rank holds more value than in a solo rank. It's legit politics / culture they have ALL THE CONTROL OVER.
On his last point about "the meaning of diamond changed" YES YOU CHANGED THE CULTURE, and you can still do it in a different way or not do it lmao. Just a status quo defender so no you will not change things.
"It's hard to sort good matchmaking for ranked teams" ITS A SKILL ISSUE ON YOUR END. CHANGE THE CULTURE. FIX IT. Or maybe you don't care cause it's not really your values and that's chat's actually going on. I just disagree and hate his overall tone.
I used to play competitive multiplayer games before matchmaking existed. We found each other on websites. We had casual ways to play without MMR even (gathers on ESL was what I did) and then team stuff with clan wars with a ranking element.
It existed, it had it's own flaws etc but it was a thing.
This guy is management at the company that creates the biggest videogame product in the world. And idk how you can say they have total control over the politics/culture. There's having an idea of what makes you successful but its not as if they can dictate those conditions.
Scarecrow fallacy
This is not actually true. There are limits to how much control a game loop has on player behavior because the player itself has agency. They form their own cultural units through memetics (See every videogame meme account), they create their own play patterns and rituals of courtesy based on how they see the game and themselves (See the Souls games gestures before invasions and duels), they can even find a common objective and coordinate on the fly, way beyond what the game even trained them to do (See Helldivers 2).
Your systems can only create culture so far, but it can't erase the already-acquired habits of your players, their personality, etc. As such, it can only affect the forward-facing experience that the player will have while interacting with your system. You can't really brainwash them to think exactly as you want them to do. Even trying to have them take the exact same interpretation of a line of events as you is difficult and requires precise craftsmanship.
I do have to ask, though... why are you treating the terms "centrist" and "conservative" as despective terms? With the years the game has been active and one of the most popular online, there are a lot of intertwined systems that keep it together, and that is the "status quo" or current state of things in Latin. If you are already in a condition of such success, there are more ways to screw up things than improve them, so being cautious is a sensible thing to do.
The dude is answering questions, and you are complaininghe is answering, how can you be this much stupid
There’s so many things wrong with what you just said lmao. Also you realize august isn’t the one making the decisions right? You are acting like he is just overviewing everything and pressing a button and things changes as he sees fit. Don’t forget it’s also kind of HIS JOB to be more centralist on most issues in league, in case you haven’t noticed you can’t balance a game for the top 1% nor bottom
"Most League Players have no friends"
Yeah, I'm sure not adding comms for the Last 15 Years has done nothing to alleviate the issue.
It's 2024 come on bro, even ancient videogames from 2005 have freaking comms.
Having coms doesn’t all of a sudden get you friends. Sure it helps but all of a sudden everyone isn’t going to have friends because a voice chat exists.
@@animeanime7849 You're right, having comms in a videogame doesn't cause friend groups👍