A Complete Guide to NBC's Heroes
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- Sylar? The Company? Linderman? The eclipse? Adam Monroe? The Shanti virus? Pinehearst? Arthur Petrelli? The catalyst? Coyote Sands? Samuel? Renautas? June 13th? The HELE?
All your questions answered about NBC's Heroes.
00:00 Intro
03:23 Volume 1 Summary
06:13 Volume 2 Summary
08:34 Volume 3 Summary
11:01 Volume 4 Summary
12:08 Volume 5 Summary
14:10 Heroes Reborn Summary
16:19 Expanded Universe: The Webisodes
18:02 Expanded Universe: Heroes 360 Experience ARG
20:22 Expanded Universe: The Comics
21:17 The Biggest Mysteries Explained
22:09 The Death of Chandra Suresh
22:32 Save the Cheerleader, Save the World
24:04 Linderman's Plan
25:03 Peter in Ireland
25:35 The Shanti Virus
26:24 Adam Monroe
27:24 Arthur Petrelli
28:22 Volume 3 Future
29:13 Coyote Sands
29:37 Nathan's Task Force
30:14 Samuel Sullivan and the Carnival
32:06 Erica Kravid and Renautas
33:04 Tommy and Malina
33:37 Sylar
34:58 Power Absorbers
36:29 Katana Girl
37:00 Niki, Jessica, Tracy, Barbara
38:08 The Rules of Time Travel
39:36 History of The Company
41:38 The Eclipse
42:45 The Helix Symbol
43:29 HRG
43:53 Tommy and Malina's Father
44:23 Dropped Plotlines
47:49 Mystery Box Review
51:20 Conclusion - Is This Show Good?
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A few corrections/add-ons I’d like to make:
-Peter got his powers back because he injected himself with the power-giving serum. I totally missed that on a rewatch, my bad.
-I didn’t mean to imply that streaming existed in 2006. What I was trying to point out was that this was a transition period between old school cable and streaming. Entire shows were easier to watch in order through things like video on demand, dvr, dvd box sets, and buying episodes on itunes. This is one reason why more serialized shows were successful at this time.
-Tim Kring announced a revival series in April called Heroes Eclipsed. The video was already done by the time I heard about it, otherwise I would have mentioned it.
Also i think you might’ve missed the heroes video game
Why do you keep saying old school cable? This was on NBC. NBC is a broadcast television channel. Even to this day you can just put an antenna up and watch it.
I’m starting to realize that I don’t know the difference between network and cable tv. Growing up, I had a ‘cable box’ and I referred to anything I watched on it as ‘cable tv.’ I’ve also always heard ‘streaming’ and ‘cable’ described as the two opposing ways to watch tv in the modern day. I never knew that ‘network’ tv was its own distinct thing before all these comments started correcting me.
"On demand" was a thing that Comcast offered back then where you could rewatch tv and movies.
@@MahkyVmedia1 Yep as a backlog cable package
"heroes reborn? there was a reboot of heroes? How did I never hear about this?"
> The first thing it does is kill off claire offscreen
"oh. Nevermind."
You didn't miss much, it wasn't good. A few of the original actors came back but it felt like they pretty much came back for a paycheck (especially considering others left for better things like Claire and Sylar's actors). Most of the new characters were meh and the overall story was grasping for straws.
@@tedturtle5032Exactly why I stopped, got a few episodes into the sequel and just couldn't tango with what I was given.
The webisodes leading up to its release were better than the actual show.
That's the best decision it could make though lol.
It does more then that, it makes her a central character so it feels like a giant piece is missing. If they couldn't get the actress back they should have given the role to some other character.
Nobody knew what streaming was when this show came out. My roommate and I got DVDs through Netflix through the mail.
that's how my family did it, and Lost
rip dvd netflix
Showing my gen z roomate the vlassic 2000s tv shows. Dexter, heros etc and she asked me why they have a 1 minute recap of the story at the start of every episode and i said we werent uaed to continuous stories yet. 😂
Not true - maybe not for the first season but you could watch heroes episodes online iirc, and definitely through dvr and next day on demand through a cable box.
@@matthewhowell7335 They didn’t call that streaming they called it “on demand.” That’s not streaming and that term wasn’t even used yet.
that was the original plan for the HEROES show as each season(Volume) was supposed to be self-contained but connected to the overall world of HEROES, but the season 1(Volume 1) cast became really popular and NBC didn't think that introducing a new cast every season(Volume) would be good for the show.
It's funny how Ryan Murphy was able to do that with American Horror Story and it worked
@@ShadowSonic2 it wasn't that the Showrunner couldn't do it I think that it was mostly NBC/Universal not having faith in the showrunner to do it
to be fair its really hard to pull off correctly. Look at how badly Altered Carbon flopped during its second season.
When Heroes first came out I downloaded 6 min long pieces of new episodes (8 videos per episode) at my work computer with a high speed Internet. Put them into a USB go home and watch it with my GF. When Hiro's timeline was revealed, I thought it was the coolest scene I have ever seen. I was 23. Great video! Thanks for putting it together!
That does not change the fact that we are all idiots to watch the entire series at least twice over :))
I stopped watching Heroes because of Silar. He was a great villain, until he became a heroe...then a long lost brother, then NOT a long lost brother, and back to a villain.
Also, fuck Peter for leaving Caitlin in the future and forgetting about her like the next episode.
Agreed IDIOTIC writing
Caitlin being forgotten was the exact reason I stopped watching the show when it was originally airing. It made no sense that Peter would do that and showed to me I was wasting my time trying to keep track of plot threads.
The motto 'Save the cheerleader , save the world' was cool. 1st 4 episodes 3xplored who was super powered and were good. Biggest mistake was focusing on Silar. Loved Hiro and his buddy.
what you mean? sylar made the show good. defo one of the menacing villains in tv
He means Sylar was better as lurking big bad/boogieman style villain. The show gave you too much of him down the line, making him less interesting . @chad63
Definitely wasn't cool. It was corny af
Correct. The show got HIGHLY ANNOYING once they focused on him too much. He should have been a 2 season character max
Zachary Quinto was awesome though
I'm pretty sure Peter took the serum in order to get abilities again. So that would explain a difference in powers but it always confused me that he just got a watered down version of what he already had.
Damn dude I’m sorry I couldn’t even finish watching ur recap video 😅
I like to believe that he had his ability for years before he realized it, so his ability was able to evolve to what it was. Eventually it would evolve back. Not canon I know but I like to believe it.
It's really weird why Peter got a watered down version of his ability because the "Formula" was presented as a perfect well, formula to give abilities because Mohinder got it wrong and started to have a hideous mutation as a result but when he took the perfect formula it got rid of the mutation but he still had his enhanced Strength, agility and durability.
@@fastvalkary725 i agree completely. I feel like he either should have gotten back the same power or another completely different one.
@@spyderbite8723 Yeah, that could make some sense considering that he seemed to have absorbed the dream walking version of telepathy from Charles Deveaux without realising. Though he didn't get his mother's powers until later in the show.
I know it gets so dumb near the end but it's still one of my favorite tv shows. I used to have the collectors editions of each season on dvd back in the day.
Watched whole show on air.
It's so strange how awesome it is and how much it lacks. It's like it trails you along, making you think it's going to get better... the atmosphere tricks you the entire time.
I enjoyed it. And I wanted more. I was very said when *spoiler* dies and how they went into final season, but I loved it.
The eclipse was annoying because when it took the powers away, they strongly implied that the eclipse in the first episode was what gave them powers. Except they seemingly forgot that the first season had an episode set months before the first episode where they already had powers anyway.
Tbh this show has exactly the kind of plot points that happen in actual comics. I think people disliked it because most people aren’t into comics.
I loved all the goofy outlandish plot points because it’s pretty run of the mill stuff when you have a world of super heroes and have to keep that world going but also somehow keep changing things up
That's a truly brilliant observation. For instance, imagine if DC Comics was a TV or movie series and then Identity Crisis or Heroes in Crisis happens... the masses would (rightfully) revolt while us comic nerds *do* get irritated but know with patience they'll undo the dumb stories and pretend they never happened.
One huge mistake they made with Heroes was to reverse direction on not having sacred characters. When the show began no character was safe from being killed off, but unfortunately Hayden, Milo, and Zachary became so popular they reversed course. This was a huge mistake. There was no suspense knowing the show was no longer willing to truly kill off a character. The network chose to appease the type of fan who can't live without their favorites at the expense of the show.
This show has one of my favorite moments ever, when hero first teleports to timesquare.
FYI NBC was broadcast tv and not cable. My friends and I loved the first season so much we would have monday night watch parties every week (not something I'd never done before or since).
Love the video, but there is one thing to address; Peter had his original empathic mimicry powers taken away by his dad (because it was wayyy too op), and he got them back when taking one of the last remaining vials of the serum before Arthur’s building blew up. That’s why his new powers are slightly different.
Edit: Hiro got his powers back because of Parkman jr. Which means that Arthur is taking the powers away, but since they’re genetic, if an outside force can kickstart the gene again, you’re all good.
I saw this when it aired and I watched it all, even the reboot fiasco. One thing they did that was fun was an interactive element. During each episode premiere, you would go to the site on your phone and it would have polls, behind the scenes information, plot hints, character backstories, stuff like that. Sometimes it would ask the audience to guess what would happen next and you'd get to see whether or not everyone was right. TV shows using the internet to get the audience to participate were so innovative during this time period. Lost was another one that really tried to be multimedia before social media was really a thing.
I'm a completionist, when i start watching something, I have to watch it to the end. Heroes, by the end of the first season proved that it had no direction or plan. Everything about it was pointless. It was so bad, that it managed to break my completionist instincts. I was never able to finish this. I had such high hopes and it would be easy to make it an amazing show by better planning and interweaving the plots but no, it was like each episode writer was just told to continue the previous episode, with no other direction
The Nathan and Peter goodbye seen got me the worst. When they are hanging of the building and Nathan is about to be lost to Syler taking his body and mind back. Their relationship reminded me of my brother and I balled like a baby. 😂😂
You deserve a lot more views for this quality of content! Keep pushing man you are going to blow up.
Thank you for this video. Heroes is my all time favorite TV show because it felt like our story as opposed to X-Men with "mutations" like Beast or Toad...Heroes made it personal and relatable to anyone who ever felt like an outcast. None the less, it's my favorite for the way it made me feel about my real life. Thank you again for this guide; executed perfectly.
FINALLY a video talking about the lore of the show! Every time I look up vids on Heroes ppl ALWAYS talk about "how it got bad. Why it got bad. What happened to the show? There was so much missed potential" etc.
Great retrospective. I’m not sure I even made it to season 3 when it aired live, so I appreciate your summarizing
Watched every episode, have it all on dvd and also watched the spinoff series. Loved every second
I watched the whole thing. I was obsessed, watched all the commentary, extra stuff online, got the comics.
To this day, I only have seasons 1 and 2 on DVD. Everything else was worthless.
Fun fact, in the huge DVD wall in Leave the World Behind, they also only have the first two seasons of Heroes.
Saw the whole show... and sure, it went off the rails but I STILL enjoyed it!
love how your tangential format kinda matches the chaos of the show's plot progression
I owned this on dvd, i was... 17 in college, and i loved the show. I watched it all, i wasnt a critical tv consumer... ive never rewatched it, never will... but it has a special place in my heart
Wow. This was incredibly thorough. Good work.
I have seen the whole series and the reboot series multiple times... I loved it despite the clear setbacks
Seen the entire thing twice. It's brilliant. I highly recommend if you're into sci fi.
I watched the whole thing live. A major complaint at the time was that it always blew its budget early in a season and left nothing for season climaxes.
I loved the show when it first started, and watched until like half-way through the season with the carnival. Then I tried rewatching years later, and stopped watching on the exact same episode. I have actually been meaning to rewatch it lately since I found the spin-off comics I bought a couple years ago.
I remember this show from my early years and just couldn’t get into it, I didn’t know I need this video thanks man. Earned a sub
That first season was one of the greatest superhero epics of all time, especially given that it wasn't based on a comic or any other preexisting material. It was also one of the last network series to get truly massive ratings, averaging over 14 million viewers per episode. And then things slowly went off the rails. They weren't prepared for the show to become a phenomenon and made poor decisions while trying to adapt to the situation. The writer's strike wasn't the fatal blow but it was certainly a contributing factor. I did indeed watch the show till the end, even when it seemed that they were just making stuff up(like Mohinder's bad ripoff of The Fly)with no plan at all. Even as it went downhill it still had its moments though. Btw Heroes is in the process of being rebooted yet again with Kring at the helm so let's see how that goes
Video deserves more views & likes!
Thank u for going thru EVERYTHING 😅😅 musta been crazy!
The most underrated yt channel I ever seen ❤️
Man i really needed this 8 years ago😂
😂😂 same..
Lindermen clearly read The Watchmen and thought Ozimandius was right lol
Unfortunately, Doomsday Clock would later say Ozy WAS right and since Linderman probably had some access to the future, he may have seen that story too and considered it a no-brainer.
Love the video🔥 as soon as you started talking about season three my mind went out the window. I was so lost😭😭😭😭
I am enjoying your various mystery box show recaps, thank you for all the effort and care you put into them. I'd love to see you cover Detionaire, another animated mystery box show.
I watched it all as a tween. I had garbage taste to begin with. And Hayden P was the only reason I cared. And Syler.
The reason Peter got the more limited version of his power is because thus time the source was synthetic. The synthetic version just isn't powerful enough to completely replace his original genetic gift but the gene was still present so it worked much the same way. You're absolutely right, the reason they did this in year 3 and the reason they gave him amnesia in year 2 was because he was too powerful. It was their original intention to have completely different characters each season. They never would have left him so OP if they knew they were bringing him back. As for Hiro's brain tumor, yes it was a result of bending time with his brain.
I watched Heroes to the end! i loved it!!!!
The writing got worse with each season.
The writing got worse each episode.
They wrote themselves into a corner it happens way more often than you would think and kills probably over fifty percent of franchises movies and tv shows
Agree
After season 3 everything went side ways but I stuck with it because of the character arcs
It pissed 8-13 years old with me off with every season. Until i eventually gave up on the show.
I was so hype for evil Claire only for them to completely undo it after 1 episode
If you can't tell, my pen name/online name was based on this show. Great times.
With Tommys powers he loses the old one when he takes a new one, so he lost Claires when he took Hiro's and didn't take a new one so he could keep Space=Time jutsu.
Thank you for this.
Loved the first season, but then after that it went downhill. Didn't feel like they had a real direction after season 1.
I used to be obsessed with this show
Hana Gittlemans story is fully fleshed out in the comics. The comics are basically what was happening behind the scenes and in-between episodes.
I saw the whole show, and I was bummed out when it ended without tying up loose ends.
I actually got the complete series box set years ago. I loved the first season but I definitely felt the decline and it was definitely a fun ride until that very last season.
I actually forgot that heroes reborn came out. I definitely kind of want to watch it even though it sounds bad.
Peter gained his “new” power when he takes the formula at the end of that season. It gives him a muted version of his original power.
You either die a Heroes Season One or live long enough to see yourself become the Heroes Season Four
I managed to get through the entire original series, but couldn't stomach watching the entire remake/reboot/whatever, and stopped towards the middle.
Great analysis! Yeah, I loved season one of Heroes. Season two started OK, but I didn't like that it started a storyline and then stopped it without resolution.
this was the X-Men TVseries we could only dream of, and sometimes it felt even better than X-Men. Now I just role my eyes everytime I see a new show about what if mutants were real
Binged the entire series on Netflix 10+ years ago and loved it..
Was so sad when "Heroes Reborn" sucked so fucking badly
I still think season 2 is the last season to the show. It had enough closure for me at the end of season 2 and enough play that I could imagine what I think could happen next.
Season 1 is a great season of television watching weekly.
I've stopped watching o half of season three.
Just got fed up.
Good to see your work saved me time.
Good I made the right decision back than
New to your channel. Brilliant video!
Idk if it was just the phase I was in at the time but Heroes Reborn reminded me so much of the Assassins Creed Isu lore. Also I first watched back when Netflix still had different seasons under different search results
Great analysis of this show! If you really want a challenge try to make sense of Twin Peaks. I rewatch once a year and I still can't figure it out. Not only do I not understand some of the things that literally happen, I don't even understand what the metaphorical intent is behind it. Like literally what is David Lynch trying to say artistically? And I know I'm not the only person confused on that one. Heroes, at least you can figure out most of it if you pay attention. But I never noticed how much unexplained stuff they did ,how many plotlines just get dropped until I saw your work. Great job!
I watched the first season when it came out (in my middle school years??) and loved it so much! It left such an impression that every time I see an actor from that show I do the Leo DiCaprio point and am willing to watch more
Even tho I only watched the first season 😅
This nearly prepared me for the ultimate betrayal that was Game of Thrones
Hiro doesn't move through time and space! He "Bendu time and spaceu!".
Hiro was the most likable imho... In the first season.
I would like to say that the plot line of the woman putting the hit out on Nathan was settled. She did it because; she probably suspected he had something to do with it all those years and she finally got confirmation, and wanted revenge.
So I actually watched this on its first run and during the time of the second or third season (can't remember... it's been a few years), I worked at NBC. This show had SO MUCH potential throughout its first season but then the writers strike happened and absolutely kneecapped the show. When it came back, it had an abridged season and the writing never really recovered from the corners they wrote themselves into in order to get a second season out. The smartest move there would have been to allow the show to just come back when it was ready and it was a costly mistake that NBC paid for time and time again. Unfortunate but that mentality is part of the reason why network television is no longer the paragon of entertainment it once was and why streaming services have taken over.
This show had so much potential. The original no name superhero property that was popular in TV or Movies. Before Invincible, the Boys, Guardians of the Galaxy we had Heroes and the first season was awesome! Second was good and then it lost it's powers and fell off a cliff never to be good again.
One of the best shows ever and one of the most mishandled ever as well...
Good job. I watched it live.
I binged the whole show on Netflix years ago. Season 4 was really hard for me to get through. Season 1 is still amazing. I only saw 1 episode of Heroes Reborn and that was it. I've seen videos of what happened in Reborn and I am glad I gave up on it.
Loved the original and the reboot. Can’t explain why…
You forgot about Hannah's story being tied up in the comics where she basically becomes digitized. I read the comics as they came out so its been awhile, but I think it had something to do with a satellite?
Also, yes the writers strike did cause a lot of issues in the show. The second season had its episodes cut in half pretty much and the plot lines were all screwed which messed up a lot of the storylines. That whole season got screwed, which hurt ratings and the popularity of the show. That caused more interference from the network to try and "fix" things.
Tim wasn't a comic reader either and didn't know superheroes that well. He was the big reason it went bad afterwards when combining the network trying to get more involved. Characters with interesting powers were abandoned for ones with easier powers to show on a network show with declining ratings. That's why so many ended up using similar powers or just "He gets strong because of this". The character with magnetic powers was one of the most poorly used.
Another reason was the popularity of characters like Sylar. He was supposed to die in season one, but since he was so popular they kept him on. Then it became the Sylar show and that really just got annoying after like the tenth twist with his character.
I love this show so much man 😭
Remember when this show was cool? Pepperidge Farm Remembers...
I stuck it out all the way to the end and even though it veered off so fast I still was comparing it to X-men so I kept watching just to kinda get that feeling
I’m pretty sure Peter got his powers back in volume 3 because he took the formula as the Pinehearst building was going up in flames in order to absorb Nathan’s powers and escape with him. The formula returned his powers though nerfed because the writers wrote Peter into a corner
This show was fantastic. Especially at the time that it had come out.
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I don't remember if my wife and I and her sister watched every season but we did watch what we could and loved it we even had the first 2 seasons on DVD or maybe just season 1
Great show, enjoyed every bit of it! Sad that they changed the writer after the writers strike. Many shows lost in quality or lost the thread . I think it was mid season 2. If that did not happened oh my....
I love heroes and watched every episode since day one including the one offs and the re release.
Me and my kids watched this religiously when it came out. But you right after the writers strike the show sucked and we weren’t really into it anymore. This is a great video.
I LOVED this show. First season was amazing and then they just got worse, but because of the writers strike, I knew why it was turning shit. I watched from start to finish, as it came out. I cannot overstate how amazing it was to watch the first season back then. There was no MCU or DCU out there. It was incredibly dope to follow along. I still think that there isnt any realistic super hero show out there as good as the first season was.
42:48 It takes away the powers of people that already had powers but gives those to those who’re dormant 44:00 We are its explicitly explained in the comics that Claire was dating an evo activist and got with him
I just saw this show because of Hayden Panettiere and Ali Latter (after watching her on Final Destination 1 & 2)
Watched the whole original and reboot smh so much potential
I watched the whole show start to finish. You're right season one was the best.
if you only ever watch season 1, its one of the best all time shows ever. everything after does nothing but make it shit by the end. It makes me wonder if sense 8 would have turned into shit if it kept going cause the only season of that was mind blowing.
The times were different. The most advanced thing about tv was Tivo. we used to have to wait a full week to watch it made the show last longer than streaming. I loved and still love Heros.
Thanks!
Maybe another interesting tidbit: Tim Kring announced a sequel show Heroes: Eclipsed (which he announced during the eclipse.)
Its going to be very interesting imo to see how it will handle the whole superhero thing given that we now live in a pots MCU era.
The original show played it mostly straight. "We have to save the world!" Without a hint of irony or quibs. Now it seems that there cant be a live action superhero thing without irony and quibs. Dont get me wrong, I like the MCU. But all those quibs and sarcastic comments from the characters do get annoying at some point. Especially since its seeping into other movies and shows as well. I found Heroes surpisingly refreshing in that regard when I first watched it a few months ago. So I'm interested to see if the new show leans more into the ironic side or still plays it straight.
Forced myself to the end... I guess I was hoping it got better
36:25 Okay there’s an explanation for this. The power absorption is only one power at a time. The reason Arthur could absorb multiple is because Peter had multiple powers you see that in the pulses that are released. Tommy says he lost healing for time travel. The reason his time travel at first appeared different was because of mental blocks it’s why later he learned to not just mimic Hiros abilities but additionally may two different time phantom’s of himself. 37:41 We don’t need to infer she learns to do it in season 2
Two of the dropped plot lines can be explained. Time travellers getting tumours could be explained by their altering of the timeline and their brains unable to deal with the new history. The Matt/sylar one is easy though, Matt cant delete memories so when he removed them, they had to be kept somewhere. The same thing happened in xmen comics in the 90s when prof. X erased magnetos mind
I loved this series