DJI O3 camera settings how to choose them when to use them and where to lose them!
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- čas přidán 20. 01. 2023
- We have had to manage our camera settings for as long as we have been strapping a GoPro to our FPV drones...but what does all of it even mean and why is it different with the DJI O3 digital FPV system? Why should you lock things like ISO, shutter speed, or white balance? Well, today I am going to break all of those things down for you and show you how to find the perfect settings for what you are doing with that shiny new O3 camera. Then again you might just want to leave it on auto, or will you?
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This is the best video i have watched to explain to someone who has little too no knowlegde of cameras. I've been flying on auto for years but now with this amazing o3, i wanted to learn how this manual thing works. Thank you thank you!! This rocks!
Hey I hope it helps out!! Thank you so much for watching :)
Wow, I learned more in 30 mins than in the last 4 years of flying, can't wait for weather to improve to get out and try this new knowledge, fantastic explanation and very entertaining 👍
I hope the tips get you some nice shots when the weather gets better!!!
Super helpful for us flying the O3 without prior camera setting knowledge. Thanks 👍
you are very welcome, just glad I could help! :)
Camera person here. For quality video, set shutter speed to double the frame rate. You can get more complicated if you want to, but if there's one thing that's worth setting manually, it's this.
Droppin knowledge!
Nicely put together.
Thank you!! It was a little long winded, lol
When you lowered the exposure on your video at 10:17, I though that I forgot to plug my laptop in, causing it to go into battery saver mode lol. I was frantically looking for my charger that was already plugged in to my computer. Love the video, and as always, stay greasy.
lolol, i wondered how many people would thing something was wrong with their device when I did that. Just keeping you on your toes!!! :p
Definitely did a double take on my iPad. HA!
Great vid, thanks for the entertaining, simplified camera setting guide. 👍 Thanks BaconNinja!!!!!!
You are very welcome!!!!!
Great advice and info bacon 👍
Thank you!! Hopefully it helps someone out there have an easier time with it.
Thanks Bacon!! Another informative video, good listen while whooping around the house.
BRO YOU ARE DOPE IN EVERY TOPIC
I just like to learn things and ramble about them, lol
Fantastic PSA on settings! Next iteration of the O3 needs a optical device that can split the image and bend it to a 2nd sensor on the main block. Film cameras do this with a beam splitter and mirror from the ground glass for the viewfinder.
I would love to see an FPV cam that could do that...maybe some day we will!
@@BaconNinjaFPVThe Hawkeye Split does it, or kinda, since it's 2 cameras in one setup, one for fpv and the other for cinematography.
I think maybe your recommendation of using a lens filter might be the best approach for my efforts of trying to get the most visible navigation in low lighting, I could just throw it on in the daytime. Even so, when I set the ISO to its highest it's not really a big enough improvement to see what I want. If I'm like riding around on dark pavement under streetlights then the moment I leave the light flood it looks like I'm coasting on abyss. I think I saw something about new firmware that allows 30fps settings.. which I suppose does sound ridiculously hard to navigate with.. but if that's true maybe us ground level guys can use it in the dark.
Look, you not going to loose your motion blurre by letting auto shutter decide, instead it increase it! If it's getting darker it jumps from 120 to 60 or even lower and ruins your image as well! I noticed if you leave on full auto it sticks to your max available iso and constantly changing the shutter, but some times when you fly opposite the sun your image getting to blurred, so i checked and seen the shutter tooooo low, that's it comes to a hard decision what to lock you know....
Ok, you keep coming up with interesting videos so you forced me to do this ... I subscribed to your channel and liked this video!
Keep up the great work ... And fry up some bacon, I'm on the way over!!! 😎🤘
lolol, my intention was always to force you :p Bacon is always hot n' ready!
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man, I would be down for that any time!!! Probably never going to happen though, lol
@@BaconNinjaFPV Never say never bro! We believe in you!
Wow that was very informative I think I'll have to watch it several times 🤣. I fly fast freestyle and use a gopro for my HD footage so what would be the best settings for the 03 for flying with? I.e. lowest possible latency?
yeah, it is kind of a lot of info crammed into this one, lol. For flying with the lowest possible latency, you for sure want to be running your camera at 120fps. One thing to consider though is that at 120fps if you want to fly 4:3 aspect ratio in the goggles you will need to have the camera set to 2.7k since in 4k you will only be able to get 16:9. Everything else about how it is set up is really up to you as it won't impact the latency, just the light handling!
Definitely leave the shutter on auto like you said but not with an O3. Not sure I will get an O3 until vistas/links aren’t possible to get although if I built another 3.5” the O3 would be a good option to keep the weight down without an external camera.
The exposure adjustment algorithm isn't the best on the O3, that is for sure. it reminds me of what the Action 2 does...probably because they are using the same one, lol. Maybe some day they will actually make that better.
Thanks , I am going to watch this a couple of times because there is just so much damb informtion in it. . With a lot of videos with so much detail its impossible to watch because its done in such a dulllllll way but your presentation was fantastic and entertaining. I hope to put some of this into practice.
Ok, your footage is crazy wicked good, love the whole video thank you. I'm brand spankin new to the 03 unit, I took it out a ripped 4 packs, so a couple questions I hope you can help me out with, 1. Out of the 4 packs only one flight of 5mins (in 2 separate files cause I can't do anything about that, if there is an option to get just 1 file please let me know.) I was trying different frame rates to see how they looked when I got home, well the only one I got to see was the 4k120fps none rocksteady. Is there a common reason files don't get recorded? I do see it says my sd card isn't fast enough (it should be) still 3 flights of missing footy. I had checked during each flight I was recording, I didn't land during any of the flights. I did change the settings to 4k120fps rocksteady, none-rocksteady 4k60fps rocksteady, and non-rocksteady. I didn't lock any settings like you advised in this video, so I wasn't too impressed. I also did a couple of the flights with nd 16 and a couple without, I only see my last video (new sd btw) The video isn't as clear as I thought it would be for 4k120fps....... however maybe with some of your settings, it'll be better. I like the 120fps 4k option as I like cinematic speed up and slowdowns, getting 120fps slow-mo is worth it, it's very choppy though, I hope with your settings advice this will be a working wicked cam. What do you recommend for the perfect SD card for the 03, and where do you think my footage when too? Maybe it's on my goggles2? I'll check, if it is, that won't be 4k120 fps footage right? just 1080 to the googles? Thanks for your help...... hoping tomorrow shows signs of better videography.... I do hope you see this soon and can let me know what you think. Or anypne else with the perfect list..... that would be amazing.
List would look like - For 4k60fps use -
For 4k120fps use - ect ect :)
I got it bro I put the 03 air unit in the Darwin 129 it worked it freaking work using DJI controller 2 and goggles 2!!!!!
niiiiiiiiiiiice!!!! I just yanked the receiver out of mine the other day, so it won't see the air for a little while, lol.
It's FINAL! ISO now stands for Image Sensor Overdrive!!! I'm telling everyone lol.
Btw I tried 30 FPS modes and wow that was disconnected feeling!
lolol, it would sure make more sense if it did!
Thank you for all the instructional videos to help me out with my new 03 air unit.
Thanks :)
you are very welcome!!
Great video Bacon. Hey man are you flying in 4:3 or 16x9? And do you think the extra resolution at 16x9 (great for stills from vid) is worth loosing the vertical we see as a pilot used to flying in 4:3? Ty again.
Soooooo, from a pilot perspective I always prefer flying in 4:3 for the extra vertical height. I find myself using points at the top and bottom of the screen as anchors for a lot of moves, and that gets much harder to do in 16:9. I do fly in 16:9 mode though, but only when I know for sure I am going to use the footage in that format...even though it is a little limiting. I haven't found the experience of taking 4:3 footage and formatting it into 16:9 to yield very good results :( so if I am gong to actually use it, I chop off that top and bottom and live with it. For all other things though, 4:3 all day!
@@BaconNinjaFPV thank and this is exactly what I am finding. I’ll fly 16x9 only if client requests it. 4:3 baby 🤙🏻🏁
Hey there, super helpful video, I learned a lot. However I somehow can't find the optíon to set the shutter speed to auto. It's just not there lol.
hmmmmm, that setting is in the advanced camera mode menu that pops up at the bottom I believe...and I can't remember off the top of my head if you have to set it to manual in there before it shows up. I will double check on my goggles when I go fly this weekend if you haven't found it already!
Hahahahah the shutter speed example had me dying on the floor laughing! Time to see the vet, muffins!
lolol, if your cat is doing that....it is at least time to change up it's food :p
@@BaconNinjaFPV its all about the cats ass! Hahah
Hi! Is everything you mention related to goggles V2? I can't see auto for shutter speed, only for iso. And there is no 30fps, the lowest is 60... What is firmware version you use? V.1.04.000 is on or I should upgrade to 1.06 ?
same here
Got the ista 360 go 2, and the iso is always going crazy 🤪, idk how to lock it in.
I like to use 50 fps.... should I go down to 30?
And apparently, the nd filters help with jello.
the Go2 is a little weird about how it "locks" things, lol. It is a whooooole other animal and only lets you lock ISO or shutter, then sometimes decides it isn't going to save it between power cycles. I liked to shoot with mine in 30fps and lock the ISO down low but let the shutter do what it wanted. Sometimes I would throw an ND4 or ND8 on it to force the auto shutter to open a little longer and help with jello, but that one is really up to you.
i got the googles 2 and cant unlock the shutter speed when i am in manuel mode. i only can change the ISO somehow
same here
TY bacon the flight at the end... 60 fps @ what resolution?
At the end there that is 60fps in 4k :) I am running the pilot feed at the max on v2 goggles, so 810p there.
13:50 This bit is probably why barely anyone would use the FPV camera for their HD footage, even if it was even better than O3. Because they want the HD footage to be all motion blurry (and with harsh exposure) which makes it really hard to follow how the quad flew, making people think they're really great pilots for being able to fly it, when really, they just used an FPV camera with essentially no motion blur and a really flat exposure that makes it much easier...
Is there a way to focus the 03 Air Unit? Our is only focused at extreme close and I do not know how to get it to get the focus back to far for flying.
As I understand it, there isn't a way to focus the camera externally. If yours has gone wonky and isn't in focus anymore, I would imagine something internal has come loose and is now out of place in it. May be worth opening it up and double checking everything with the plan B of maybe buying a new camera module.
Has any found some good o3 camera settings that would let you fly at night like the polar starlight Camera does???
unfortunately the sensor in the 03 unit just can't get that kind of low light performance :( it doesn't have the native ISO to go down that low and not be completely distorted, and the fixed aperture is kind of small so it doesn't let a ton of light in. Wish it did though, because that would be pretty awesome!
hello if i dont plan to use the 03 air unit footage because of x config and props in view . goggles recording only . what are the best settings for flying with a strong link .??
i just got a nazgul 6 f hd with goggles2 but i like the way the V2 fit so much better , i really want to use those with the 03 air unit .????
thank you
Usually when I am flying my O3 quads, I don't care much for the footage since I still prefer GoPro footage better :) I tend to find myself using the 2.7k mode at 120fps, but you can only get that 120fps mode on the v2 goggles. I very much agree with liking the v2 better than the goggles 2 and those are my go to for flying anything DJI!
Left out was lights flickering, 50hz in Europe or 60hz in the US.
That is a great point!! 50hz is important for where the AC runs at that frequency for sure.
have you tried 03 on DJI V2 goggles vs vista on 25 and 50mb. Trying to understand if its a worth it upgrade. My Vistas on 50mb is pretty darn clear. 25mb can get a little blocky.
The 03 wipes the floor with it on image quality and range and penetration. The only thing that it doesn’t do better is going from light to dark. Maybe a FW update could make it better? But it’s leaps better other than that.
so...compared to a vista on 50mb mode, the O3 does have better image quality. Is it a night and day difference, maybe not. Is it a noticeable difference, yes absolutely it is! Now where it really shines is range and penetration since it handles compression better on the low end of signal quality. At the end of the day though, it has to be $100 worth of better for you to beat out a Link/wasp setup.
@Bacon Ninja FPV I guess i've never had issues with range and penetration but that very well could be a selling point for me as i over all would feel more comfortable pushing it harder. I enjoy the vista on my Nebula Pro cams at 50mb visually. It's usually pretty good as long as it's not getting blocky. I will say the runcam link(vista) works great but I didn't like the wasp as a camera at all, the color is weird atleast on mine, and the fov my eyes dont notice the small gain. Maybe I got a bad one but every run cam I've owned I just wasn't feeling haha. How is the o3 with the ghost branches 😂 fast moving, and thin branches are they pretty clear from a distance?
Definitely worth the upgrade 🤷🏽♂️ you will notice the difference right away. I use my o3 quad for day time and my link wasp for night flying. You can’t really fly in dark places not good at low light but the vista definitely better for night. So maybe you can decide depending if you fly in darker places mostly and if you don’t plan on using the 03 to record your video . Dji is the best at Hd rn so either one’s good. Just depending on what your gonna use it for 👍🏼
@Mark Quiroz I bought one a couple weeks later. I don't fly it much. Super nice view, I don't use it for footage though. Vista's still do me well and much cheaper.
Which antenna connector goes to which connector on the unit?
you should be good to put either one in either place. The flex antennas inside of the antenna dome are basically identical and the radio stage of the VTX handles the 5.8/2.4 stuff without needing radios for each band.
i pick my shutter and add nd. too bright i raise the shutter. late afternoon i due 100-400. and i always shoot darker than brighter
I think sometimes people get too concerned with a very specific amount of motion blur and don't want to raise their shutter to accommodate. I agree with you though, I do use it to find the right lighting and throw my wants about motion blur out the window when it comes down to it, lol. I tend to shoot a hair on the bright side when I can't get it just right, but that is just because I find bringing highlights down a bit is less noticeable than having to crank shadows up.
How do I NOT lock the settings? Or should I say UNLOCK them after manual? I don't get it, it's all manual for me atm?!
That is a great question! If you bring up the bottom screen camera menu, there should be one setting on the far left to change the mode from manual to auto. You should be able to get to that menu by either pressing up on the joystick/track pad or going into the regular menu under camera settings and hitting advanced settings.
@@BaconNinjaFPV Thanks, I do know that. But when looking at ISO options in manual mode it does offer an "auto" option, however, I don't see such option for shutter speed, which you mentioned you preferred to set to auto? Is it dependent on video res/framerate or some other settings?
i cannot record 4k slow motion effect but records fine in 1080p i notice the video is real laggy too in 4k mode using goggles v2 is there a reason for this
I havent had any issues with 4k on my goggles v2, but maybe it is something with your channel selection? Have you enabled the 50mbps mode with the HAM file and set it to one of the three channels you get after doing that?
@@BaconNinjaFPV it's fine was the decoder on computer go just use 1 channel for now .. i use the 2.7k in 4x3 mode not 4k fov way better
wow the 03 camera parameter's are pretty good can get good low light night mode too
Isn’t 4000k closer to yellow in the light spectrum and 8k closer to blue? Or is this different on camera systems
yeahhhh, I corrected the chart since I had transposed the words when I was talking about it. It was one of those unfortunate post production catches.
@@BaconNinjaFPV you’re good buddy, I know little about camera settings, and didn’t know if it was “inverse”. Great explanation, I plan on getting some ND filters after I buffed my lens, Utah sand it hard on them.
cut to the effin chase!
I appreciate you sharing your thoughts :)
Which ND Filters are you using on your O3 camera?
I am using the Freewell pack for the Avata which also works on the O3 cam. I have the set of 4ND strengths and a couple of the polarized ones to reduce glare and add a little lens protection.
What’s up 🥓🥷 the shutter is a cat’s butt it’s not true, I put my cat on my drone and the video still sucked 😂 great explanation of all these settings stay safe bro
lolol, well you need to feed the cat taco bell first for full effect :p
@@BaconNinjaFPV 😂
i just run in auto with nd filters lol
hey, nothing wrong with that! I like a white balance lock and an ISO limit just to keep the image noise down and the white colors stable for playing with the footage in post :)
What's happening? This has nothing to do with this vid. Since I know you have both the speedybee f7 and f4 stacks. I was just curious about the actual difference between the two. If either actually flies better than the other. And if they are the same. Why would you even buy the f7 stack?
PS.
Stay greasey! 😁
It is a good question!! As far as the F4 vs F7 thing...the only "real" difference which you will actually notice is the ability to invert a UART without hardware if you need it. That isn't a super big deal though. The real difference is the ESC and the fact that the F4 comes with an 8-bit while the F7 comes with a 32-bit. I prefer a 32-bit running BLHeli32 over an 8-bit running BlueJay just because it can do the variable byRPM PWM frequency. That feature makes a big difference when it comes to keeping oscillations out of your footage at certain throttle positions while also giving you the most battery life when it can. Again not a huge deal, but I like the full feature set when I can do it but the more budget F4 stack is perfectly fine.
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Great info.. flying.. yikes.. sorry.. you're looking at the ground way to much and hard to watch so much direction switching. My head hurts
thank you for checking it out!! Yeah my flight style isn't everyone's cup of tea, that is for sure :)
Cinematography🤣🤣 is a joke that folks need to stop tossing around. Honestly folks, just shoot automatic with some filter and add motion blur in post. Have fun and fly.
This one feels a bit phoned in and lacking in substance.
Ooof...that is rough, but I appreciate your honesty. I will try to go back and see what I might have done differently.
@@BaconNinjaFPV maybe a bit more flight footage showing how the settings affect things.
@ yeah I intentionally avoided that one for this since you can't control the outdoor lighting. I went with indoor so that I could control the consistency of the studio lights. I will keep it in mind for next time though!
@@BaconNinjaFPV sorry if my comment seemed harsh I really do like your work.
@ oh no it's perfectly fine! I really do appreciate honest feedback :)
Where in the greasy hell are you flying? It looks like the outback Australia. You can hide some dead bodies out there.
lolol, it is just a local unused park here. They had a huge playground at one point but the ripped it out and just kind of left this whole chunk of property here with nobody using it. About as far from the outback as you can get, but I guess Texas is probably the "down under" of the US, lol.
Too much talking