Let's Have a REAL Conversation about Quiet Luxury | Old Money vs. New Money
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- čas přidán 10. 05. 2023
- Hey loves, today’s video features my very transparent views on the “quiet luxury” debate and thoughts on some of the most popular quiet luxury brands. Thanks for tuning in and subscribing to my channel!
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We have to stop thinking fashion and aesthetics is somehow going to save us from racism and classism. Optics only go so far. Black people especially keep being told if we just change ourselves enough we will finally be accepted by the mainstream but that never really works. We need to do and embrace what we love, instead of just trying to assimilate at the expense of our various cultures.
I appreciate your point that while the fashion is “quiet” these alleged old money or otherwise wealthy people are flaunting their wealth in so many other ways. It’s not quiet at all!
You can’t buy ur way out of blackness … your discriminated aganist anyway buy what you want and keep this in mind if they have black leadership or models for runway or print
True, as a black person, no Matt how you try to assimilate into the mainstream culture, you will never be enough and be discriminated against regardless. Mitchell Obama with her status still faces insults and threats regardless how white she try to be and present herself
I agree 100%
Let’s not forget Oprah and Hermes.
you cry of "racism" is invalid. you are just angry and insecure that old money culture comes from white culture. And your cry of "racism" is just to distract and undercut that.
racism is a product of multiracialism. you are not accepted because you are in countries that are not yours. normalize the idea that not everything is about or has to be for black people.
And this is why MINIMALISM is NOT for me! As an African, we are loud, vibrant, and eccentric in our fashion. So, when people talk about elegance being "low-key", I always roll my eyes. You hit the nail on the head. I personally don't wear logo forward pieces, because I'm nobody's billboard; but if I like a piece, i will wear it, logo, and all!
By, and large, this was a very educational video, and thanks for teaching us how and where to spend our money.
I bet you EAT the Elegant Flamboyant style!
I don't think that minimalism is about the colours of your wardrobe, but more about your intentionality with what you own. I do think that bright bold and vibrant colours look amazing on dark skins and that the subdued colours tend to suit paler colour skins. So go ahead and be bright and colourful 😊.
I’m a minimalist because I’m frugal but at the same time I love looking nice. … and I do t have a lot of closet space
This is the “quiet luxury” video the internet needs! Well done!
🤣🤣🤣, I love your take and delivery on this issue. One youtuber that I follow, she's white, said, 'what about the African, Asian, and Indian old money, they don't dress quitely, are they not old money? Because they actually are but they don't wear muted, low key expensive clothes'. She has a good point.
Was just about to say this! Everyone else sure isn’t quiet with it and they have all these other luxuries. I think it just really boils down to proximity to whiteness as the creator mentioned.
I'm Nigerian and the old money women are only loud when wearing Nigerian designers or attire. When they are out and about in Europe and America they definitely dress according to quiet luxury definition. I grew up with them.
I was JUST randomly thinking about this today. How specific colors or patterns were only for royalty.
I just commented something similar😅. What's the name of the video?
I said “Ma’am how much is this?”
She said “$5,000.00”
And I said “Take this off me!”
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I lol so hard 😂
The way I cackled! 🤣🤣🤣
💯 The supply vs demand is not adding up. We need an explanation.
The quiet luxury is just the newest trend to drive brand sales.
That’s all it is. How people are equating that to racism is crazy to me
@@inmytravelstoday Because everything around us is steeped in racism and classism. And that’s a fact🤷🏽♀️
@@liastorm795 says you lol
@@chrischris7003 Nah. It's a fact.
@@haute03 no, it is how you are perceiving it
You weren't just preaching a sermon today, you gave us the whole vacation Bible School!!!!!! Thank you for all of this! Zero lies were told
That part!!!
Thank you for this. I was exhausted of the quiet luxury discussion because it almost never brought up the origins of “old money” or the fact that the quiet luxury movement is aimed in large part at gatekeeping and criticizing how Black and Brown people present in terms of fashion. Your summation is the best one I’ve heard #onhere.
Right! These so-called "Flashy" clothes/accessories/etc was Totally acceptable to wealthy ppl Until people of color(Primarily Black ppl) started to have access to it..All of a sudden logo-forward items were looked down upon..you truly can't make this shit up smh
Thank you for bringing up how much old money comes from colonialism and slavery.
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This!!!!!!!❤
One of my best friends from college was "old money". I realized when we planned a trip to TX. He said we could stay in his Dad's apt. Then we got there I was like "where's your dad". He said he was in his house in CA. Mind you my friend grew up in Massachusetts lol. This was just an empty, very nice apt in Austin. So that's when it clicked how rich they were. After that I found out he's related to the president John Adams and folks that were on the Mayflower. I was like not the old colonialism money haha.
And let's not forget that right after slavery, local laws were written so that blk people couldn't automatically inherit land from their fathers.
I love seeing a Black fashion influencer not shy away from having critical discourse around issues that impact the collective as well as those of us who love fashion. Fashion IS political and something we must begin reconciling when it comes to what we are willing to embrace as BIPOC and the harm we can actually cause in our participation of style narratives that center colonialism. Personally, my concerns are more in the role fashion plays in the climate crisis and by extension, human rights. That’s a toughie when you love to style yourself up and one I’m working through to lead me towards more sustainability. Thanks for opening the door to this hot button issue! 🌻 Yes the ROWE is NOT it, never understood the hype lol 🤣 Jill Sander has always been that girl 🔥
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Ignored history that's destroying Black Women today...
1860 Democrat Party founded to KEEP slavery & lost Civil War to Republicans on April 9, 1865. 1865 KKK founded in TN & 1921 Tulsa, Black Wall Street 🔥 by Democrats.
USA 1939 Margaret Sanger's THE NEGR0 PROJECT exterminate/neuter Black people via eugenics.(Hitler used this against Jews)
1965 The Welfare Act, white feminism, No Fault Divorce traded the Black Father for check$.
38% aborted, 80% fatherless, 80% overweight, least married, most in debt, divorced & with HIV.
The Black Woman.
THE NEGR0 PROJECT, now called Planned Parenthood, killed off The Black Family. 80% married down to 25% since 1965. Please research "regression."
42 million Americans are Black and so far over 20 million have been aborted.
-Philander Smith College Alumni
I bought a new rolex and was asked if I’m going to wear if for special events. I said, “fuck no”, I’m wearing my watch EVERY DAY!! We are no longer hiding what we have in order to make others feel comfortable
Yessss!! I dont know you, but i love you!!!
Keep it up...yes
This‼️ My everyday is a special occasion! I’m alive
And as a black person, regardless of how quiet luxury you do, you still gonna face discrimination and insults. So wear it with pride and so you everyday and not try to fit in, because no matter what you will still be be judged
You know I love this shit. I work in Public media and tried to "play meek" by not carrying or wearing my things. Not anymore.
May every future drag be this poised and refined!! Can't wait for this conversation on JustUs.
Thank you! 🤍🤍🤍
I don’t understand…Is she a drag?😮
@@ketiajoseph5939 No, I think they’re talking about the conversation. Like actually dragging someone.
@@Liz-uv3fz ahhhhh, thank you!!!
FrFr! Coastal Grandma??? 😂😂😂 I'm not even into fashion, but SUBSCRIBED!
Thank. You. As a people (I'm a Black woman), we need to stop defining our value by our "proximity to whiteness" as you said. I'm sick of it. And where are the Black, Latinx, and Native, and Asian designers? I feel that many high fashion European designers' stuff is trash. I would never pay over a $1,000 for a canvas or vinyl bag. But that's another discussion. 😂 You had me laughing out loud throughout the review of the designers. I so appreciate your honesty, insight, and humor.
#Preach!! #WhewYes!! 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽
Love u T. Influencers have to own their shit too. Especially the colored sisters if we pump our own itvwould trend too
Yassssss. SIS. I absolutely agree. Bcuz most influencers are pimped out bothered BIG 5
I made similar comment like this on another similar video like this. Like why is luxury is only associated with European brands. Their shit isn’t even that nice lol I hope we as a people get to the point we support our own luxury designers instead of giving our money away to people that don’t care about us nor like us.
I so much agree and supoort your point as an Asian woman. I am sick and tired of dictation of Whites what is nice and what is not, when the least people to have an audacity according to what've they done to my people(to yours,Latin and others) are THEM. I will wear what I want.
Yes, this point had to be made! Old money was acquired through oppression, exploitation and colonialism. Period.
So is new money, tho. Exploitation hasn't stopped. I feel like it is more of a east coast, New England aesthetic vs modern trends.
People should just like what they like and leave it at that. At the end of the day, we are all participating in consumption. Justify spending 2k on something with logos vs no logos should not matter.
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Ignored history that's destroying Black Women today...
1860 Democrat Party founded to KEEP slavery & lost Civil War to Republicans on April 9, 1865. 1865 KKK founded in TN & 1921 Tulsa, Black Wall Street 🔥 by Democrats.
USA 1939 Margaret Sanger's THE NEGR0 PROJECT exterminate/neuter Black people via eugenics.(Hitler used this against Jews)
1965 The Welfare Act, white feminism, No Fault Divorce traded the Black Father for check$.
38% aborted, 80% fatherless, 80% overweight, least married, most in debt, divorced & with HIV.
The Black Woman.
THE NEGR0 PROJECT, now called Planned Parenthood, killed off The Black Family. 80% married down to 25% since 1965. Please research "regression."
42 million Americans are Black and so far over 20 million have been aborted.
-Philander Smith College Alumni
@@shorty06111yes, New money is too, thank you! People are happy to point fingers at others but not at themselves
Not all the time. We can't pick and choose facts just to support a particular argument. Some " old" American money has been the result of hard work, imagination and innovation from poor white ( and colored) people. For example, Kraft, Wrigley, Rosenberg, Sanders, etc had nothing to do with slavery. To move forward, the argument should not be emotional but should be objective. Not a popular opinion I know!!
@@claudettewalker8358 You using the word "colored" tells it all. Goodbye.
I doubted you in this argument because I hate “gaudy” brands and such. But when you zoomed in and named having private jets I screamed and almost choked on my food 😩😂 you got it 🙌🏽 you won the argument. I don’t even need to hear the rest. I was schooled today and that’s alright with me 😂
With so much love 😂😂😂🤍🤍🤍
Sis the lawyer in you came out in this video while still being entertaining and I rest my case!! Bravo…
@@PoliticsFashion Thank you so much for the video and your breakdown of the topic. I kept seeing video’s about this and had no idea why all of a sudden this was a hot topic. Thank you for educating me.
I was the same I don’t like logo downed crap never have and I have never related it to WS. I however don’t look to WWs for approval. I want us to ensure we are creating wealth for ourselves and children instead of making many of these WS luxury brands richer 🫤 but Sis put out a great video even though I don’t necessarily agree with all points.
@@thefoxx99 right. I still don’t like logos lol. I’m just here for the quality materials. Keep your loud label and anything overpriced. (Except maybe accessories such as jewelry and scarves I may splurge a bit on)
The intellectual discourse that you shared in this video should be apart of EVERY learning experience in America history/sociology PERIOD. Bravo.🙌🏾
Girl! You took me to church AND to school in one episode! Preach and teach the people Sis!
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you do know colonizers introduced Christianity to blacks and Christianity is also as useless as quiet luxury
“Where does Maria keep the snacks??” 😂😅 🤣 I will never again be able to see Katie Holmes without hollering!
Also, I love this discourse. What I find interesting is that my southern mama always told me to be “put together” however you define it because it was how the showed the world how you treat yourself, how you see yourself. She said invest in shoes and quality fabrics and because of that, I still have some of her clothes. However, our aesthetic was never that or the majority, but we know we looked nice, even on a budget. Next, how are we eagerly abandoning our cultural aesthetic only to see it sold to us runway season after runway season when we were the originators? 😮
Your comedic relief COMBINED with your intellect is completely unmatched❤🔥 I am squealing and learning something new at the damn same time haha! Loved every minute of this.
Thank you love!
The Row and Khate takedowns are a masterpiece. LOL Not The Row selling viscose and polyester clothing for $2000!! This whole video is a masterpiece.
They got more nerve than a toothache…$2000?
You had me at “ white supremacy got caught in my throat”😂😂😂 new subscriber
A real conversation ...I recall in the 80's when people of color were getting slammed for wearing lux apparel it was nuts while Country Club life Yacht parties and Golf (clubs where we couldn't even play) were acceptable it was truly infuriating how people didn't understand the parallel/contradiction. Boss Convo Sis❤
That SUIT is immaculate! The linen is so plush I thought it was wool 😍😍😍😍
Jil Sander is one of the OG minimalist designers, same generation as Ann Demeulemester, Martin Margiela (Under the original designer, before the hype), and a bit after Yohji Yamamoto came on the scene. A legend.
Chile, you had me shouting! I’m just gone call you the Evangelist of Fashion because you just set us all free!
Yes!🙌🏾
Yes! The Evangelist of Fashion!
😂😂😂Yes indeed!
Speak a word Attorney!!! Tell it like it is. This is good!!👍🏿
I knew something bothered me about quiet luxury but I couldn’t figure out what it was…you explained it perfectly and I learned a lot too
I love your take on this topic - and your dive into the quiet luxury brands. Your discussion about the Katie Holmes image (and the Olsen twins) version of “cool” - the element of disheveled and ‘sloppiness’ even, calls out to privilege. Not everyone can exist in spaces while looking “not put together” - it is a privilege to do so, more so to then be “praised” as a ‘style icon” for it. A fashion writer shared this concept with me of “the arrogance of sloppiness”.
You gave me exactly what I needed from this topic. History, the ridiculousness of some content creators, and brands I can aspire to purchase from. That lined with aloe really got me!!! A clouddddd. I want it!
“I just can’t find the juice boxes” I AM DEAD😂😂😂😂
Firstly I am 81 years old. Obviously I can't wear most of the items you showcase - I have always worn classic styles and feel comfortable never being in or out of style. However I purchased the Khaite Scarlet cardigan (used) and I can't get over how wonderful it makes me feel and the versatility and fit. I would love to have you just try one on.
By the way, you look gorgeous in everything you wear.
This is why I LOVE YOU!!!! YES, EXPLAIN to everybody! Spend your money and you style the way you want, understated to the loud way. Who is anyone else to judge?? Cultures are different too, some are bold and louder while some are quiet conservative... no one has a right to say one is tacky and the other is wrong. Personal taste is no something you can talk someone else into. And to call someone's style trash is not having a discussion on an intellectual level. There are outfits I will not wear but on the flip side, I will not be made to feel ashamed of my choices. Cheers Beautiful!!!!
All of this! Thank you 🤍
@zaidmoges397 so why is Politicsfashion judging quiet luxury and telling people what to wear? why are you black people telling white women that their fashion is Caudy and ugly racist much you black people are a bunch of hypocrites you all cry muh racism but are racist yourselves stop whining nobody is shaming your clothes choices
@@PoliticsFashion why are you worshiping white colonizer religion
Omg I saw a few but by White CZcamsrs and was utterly disgusted. Indeed the new term “Quiet Luxury” is the new term for what was once more common used “Old Money” The threat of wealth gaps closing and the exposure of true “classes” has somehow prompted these deplorable conversations under the guise of yet another divisive class! Thanks for addressing the issue so eloquently but matter of fact 😅 New to your channel and will be subscribing!
Exactly! You know wealthy people can’t stand to be in the same category as the others (the rest us) 😂😂😂.
Once you go woven aloe in your linen suit, you can't go back 😂. I completely agree with you that quality and luxury must go hand in hand.
I’ve never been one to wear a lot of logos because I like my pieces to be interchangeable. This does not include my shoes, bags, other accessories. I could give a damn about quiet luxury. I don’t work this hard to buy nice things so I can “hide” it. So if you see a logo or two, so be it. I also want to add that when I see your outfits I think to myself “Oh I know this is expensive” 😂. Why? Because I know you love your quality fabrics. I say all this to say, you’ve taught us how to elevate our style with better quality pieces, while not spending an astronomical amount of money. Therefore, this notion of quiet luxury really seems pointless to me…especially when it’s drab and boring.
Wow! I have been a quiet admirer of your channel for a little over a year now and while I don’t normally leave comments on the CZcamss, I had to leave one today. Thank you for speaking on this subject so eloquently and honestly. I thought I was on the same page as you on this subject but I am now on the same line as you. You completely exposed the insidiousness of this seemingly benign idea that old money is THE socioeconomic model we should all follow. Sharing this with my friends of all shades. Time to have a healthy discussion amongst ourselves.
Agreed..sis BROKE IT DOWN!
The zoom-ins are sending me. Flawless face while reading the people for filth.
Aren’t they though 😂😂
I watched this video 3 times because I wanted to make sure I heard exactly what was really being said. FINALLY, someone has revealed the obvious in true fashion and design. KNOW AND UNDERSTAND YOUR SUPPOSEDLY DESIGNER CLOTHING PEOPLE. I’m so happy you pointed out these fabric perpetrators passing themselves off as luxury pieces. Obviously, it’s important for us to be forever misled by surface purchases meaning on the surface it looks authentic and SOMEONE SAID IT WAS QUALITY LINEN, so let me buy it. I love the way you pointed out that you’re familiar with true luxury and we should educate ourselves on these fabrics before we even begin to shop and pay what’s being asked. Thank you for the comparisons. I’m always impress by the way you continuously inform us not to be stupid (my words) to everything that’s out there. My daughter is preparing to become an influencer and I told her to make sure we don’t fool people into buying items that they don’t need but educate them so that if they buy a Max Mara piece there must be an obvious ROI before it’s purchased. Keep educating us because there are people buying these clothes and are completely clueless. Some influencers don’t have a clue what they’re presenting and don’t even take the time to get the designers name right. Embarrassing, shameful and Fiddler (from Roots) driven. Can we please stop misleading each other for profit while it’s to the detriment of the viewers. Thank you for the enlightenment
Wear what makes YOU feel beautiful, comfortable, happy, playful, boss, confident, powerful and……pick more words! REGARDLESS!
Yesterday is gone. Tomorrow is NOT promised to us. All we have is TODAY to look and feel our very best! Let how you decide to “package” yourself be totally up to YOU!
HAVE FUN WITH FASHION FOLKS! 😊
Girl, you hit the nail on the head for all those overpriced plain Jane brands. The white suit you tried on was fire. It was fitting everywhere it needed to. As soon as you pop up with it on, it was a yes for me.
That was a good one 😂😂😂😂
Ive been HOLLERING since the intro 😂😂😂 When you said the Khaite dress was made from trash I lost it cuz the first thing I said was its giving Little House on the Prairie😂 I LOVED THIS VIDEO❤
This is the quiet luxury video we all needed!
Sis THANK YOU 👏🏻👏🏻. I am tired of fashion influencers pushing the “old WHITE money” esthetic and telling me that is the luxury I need to aspire to.
You better tell'em sis!
Side note: Your makeup is GIVING!
Girrrrrl!!! Why did I sit up when you started talking about how they got their wealth?! ❤👏🏿🙌🏿
"Log off the internet and log into therapy!!" I died but its true. Let people buy and wear what they please and just mind your business!
I LOVE how this Gathering took place. The quality breakdown lesson? Chef's kiss. You NEVER miss. And we thank ya.
I'm here for the aloe woven in the fabric! 🔥 That is def quiet luxury!!! When you started to go off to the left about how certain people acquired their wealth under problematic circumstances. I was shaking my head saying "YES!!" with each point you made!!! Thank you for another thought provoking video. I was wondering what you think about Toteme?
I just loved this video!! Being educated when it comes to fashion equals smart consumerism
Thank you Tashira
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"Log off the internet and log into therapy" killed me!!! 🤣😂🤣
5 minutes in I subscribed w/ the quickness! You're HILARIOUS 😂
Gurl/Gwm. You just taught that class on old money, how they got it, how they hold it etc etc. Yaz you set the bar high on having a "voice" on social media. Thank you
The part about a strongly worded email for The Row is on point af 🤣. My favorite take on quiet luxury so far!! The Olsen Twins also used to have a label called Elizabeth and James which was like $400 flannels.
😂The way my husband is looking at me while I YELP! You are too funny and speak nothing but TRUTHS😂😂😂😂
"What is this"? "It's missing a bonnet." I hollered!!!! 😂😂😂😂
I’m here for more videos like this 🗣These are conversations we absolutely need to be having, with each other and, crucially, with ourselves. There’s so many unethical & problematic phenomena in fashion, from its narratives to its supply chains, and we have to talk about them to tackle them. Thank you for leading with it on this video 👏
This is what the cool girls look like …… hahaha. You had me hollering!!
For once I’m grateful to the youtube algorithm because this is the 👏 best 👏fashion👏content👏 I’ve come across this platform. I’m so happy I found your channel.
I am white, but not well off, and the “How to look lux” ideas popping up in social media have been driving me mad. thanks for this.
Incredibly grateful that folks are finally approaching this topic from this angle. This quiet luxury trend has really reinforced my feeling that we should de-couple fashion, style and aesthetics from socioeconomic markers. It's rooted in all sorts of vile constructs. It isn't to say that old money lookin clothes are inherently classist, it's that the clothes seem to make the classism jump outta people
when you figure out how to de-couple *anything* from classism, please let me know. lol
That last line. 💯
Things that we as a race of people need to do. 1. Build wealth for our children and their children. 2.
This comes by buying real estate, bonds, stocks, and treasury notes. Etc. We are known to have less assets than any other race. I am impressed by a person's investment portfolio and the money they have in the bank. Not what they wear. Invest your assets, not wear them. 20 years ago, people were not waiting in line to spend thousands of dollars on things. Those stores had doorman who would stand at the door and open it for you. Lord help our people. Check the wealth of the people who own these brands, then check your wealth. Bless you all.
We should not presume people are not doing both and or they have kids to leave money to.
@@mope4032the stats say otherwise
Happy Friday🙂 I am so happy you addressed this nonsense. I was offensively confused by this "Quiet Luxury" trend! Human beings wakes up every morning with brand new stupidity on their mind and then try to object this delusional BS onto their viewers. Wear what you love and wear it well!
The most thoughtful vlog about quiet luxury on the internet. Thank you!
It depends on the motivation. Some people prefer not to be flashy with labels doesn’t mean assimilation unless the individual is taking cues from white folks on how to dress. There is also a pattern in our culture of feeling the need to show and prove to “them” we got it - hence the loud labels and drip, etc. There is nothing wrong with having real wealth and preferring to select quality clothes and/or having a preference for subtle logos. Forget the “quiet luxury” label - buy what you can afford and be you. Period. Interesting Topic ☮️
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I absolutely loved this video!!! So intelligent, thought provoking and incredibly humorous. I was howling so many times throughout!!! Love it for myself.
EDUCATIONAL on so many issues... levels...professional qualifications are never a waste, I believe (the lawyer Tashira, was runningthe show)...you reminded me of my Form Four History teacher ,who made us see how the past is indeed linked to the present ...I appreciate the tone of this fashion conversation ...really eye opening...
Very articulate and well presented thoughts!!! Loved this!!! And totally agree. The message behind this aesthetic is very problematic, we should all aspire to be the best we can be but not change who we are. It is just faking it all over again dressed up as ‘quiet’ rather than ‘loud’ far too much importance is put on this and we should all just dress true to ourselves and not look to trends to tell us what is best. Love you girl xxx
I may be wrong here but, it seems to me that if I’m potentially spending $5000 for a Vicuña scarf, it don’t matter if it’s 10am… 🗣️ OFFER ME THE CHAMPAGNE, please and thank you 🙄😂
Edit: Khaite cardigan being compared to Mr. Rodgers’ sweaters is disrespectful to Nancy Rodgers, she made those sweaters with love 😩😂
Edit 2: I’m a fiber artist so I quickly ran to google Vicuña yarn… it costs $300 for a ball of yarn big enough to make a pair of fingerless gloves for a petite pair of hands 🥹 I’m gonna go mind my broke business now 🚶🏾♀️
Yes! This is a very important conversation, phew because I thought it was just me girl. There isn't anything wrong with understated style but as a Black woman sustainability practitioner in the apparel industry, there was a huge debate VERY similar to this around the "ethical fashion" or "Sustainable fashion" look when it started to blow up in 2018/18. It's almost identical to this where it per usual, came down to this very frumpy aesthetic with no design element to it and subsequently systemic racism. The pricing part of that conversation was more of a parallel because well-made goods are to be priced correctly to properly pay the maker/producer from a social/environmental justice and supply chain perspective. But at first, that whole debate felt very much like the quiet luxury conversation. Dominique Drakeford wrote a great article about this back then called "Who The Hell Wants To Only See WHITE WOMEN In Sustainable Fashion?"💗
Oh man, I'm dying thinking about the angels buzzing about at Loro Piana! THAT is luxury.
Loved this entire video 🙌🏾 And the "Mam take this off of me" 😂😂
Just Thank You!!!! This has to be one of the BEST “let’s tell the truth and keep it REAL” videos I have seen. Thank You!
Came up on this video and was so interested when I saw the title so I watched it, immediately subscribed to your channel, it was not only interesting, informative, raw but also hilarious. Loved you, looking forward to seeing previous videos and futures ones. You go girl!!!
First off, I'm liking the video from jump because your entire look is lightning up my screen. Stunning and inspiring! Then, you started making all the points that needed to be made. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Sissss! - TY TY TY for the s/o! 🥹🥰🫶🏾 And let me just say, btwn you and Tenicka, there aren’t two other creators that are more qualified, eloquent + just plain KNOWLEDGEABLE enough to speak about this!
Everything you said was straight facts and I’m just thankful that you took YOUR God-given time to teach the girls the things!
- And now, we patiently await Ms. Tenicka to slide through w/ the read bc you KNOW she coming w/ the smoke! 💨 😫
Alll the smoke sis lol! Love ya!
Girl this video gave me so much life and laughter! Especially when you got to the last designer😂, but all in good fun and honesty, it’s good to see real out here in these CZcams streets💪🙌🏽. I haven’t been a subscriber for very long but I’m so glad your channel came up in my stream, you’re one of the best😍. Keep doing you because God always has great things in store for people who are real💖🔥
This was so good. The quiet money mentality is definitely not new. I had a rich Caucasian woman say “well you don’t dress like me”. When I asked what does that mean she said I was more avant- guard (spellcheck) then her which meant I dressed “louder”. My view is wear what you love and love what you wear. It ain’t my business. 😂😂😂. This was such a great video. I was fully engaged in this topic. Love it.
I agree! So tired of people who only follow trends and chase designer brands and call it style-it’s not!! Wear what you like and what looks good on you-it’s you and that is style.
Meanwhile avant garde is an entire fashion category and it is not easy to do and it can look like a costume really quick. It comes from the French army phrase advanced guard, meaning the people who go ahead of the rest . She was being shady but really telling you you’re the trendsetter. Purr💅🏾
New subscribers here! Just wanted to say this was my first time ever seeing your video and I’m hooked. Girl go get that linen suit with the aloe 😂it most definitely made your skin look ever so gorgeous. And I died when you said “I just can’t find the juice boxes”😂😂😂
I LOVE when a sales associate takes the time to educate you about an unfamiliar brand! Experience priceless!
I LOVED THIS VIDEO! From beginning to end. Sis, you got us and those brands TOGETHER! ❤❤❤
OMG!!! I HAVE NO WORDS FOR THIS VIDEO!!!! I literally could listen to you for hours upon hours. This was so informative and you had my attention from BEGINNING to END!!!! Love you sis!!!😂❤😂
4 minutes in and g'D*MN somebody has FINALLY hit the nail on the head. I've watched a dozen of videos on this topic and it seems they're all either scared to name white supremacy or just don't have the vocabulary! Ms. Mamas thank you!
Thank you for the intellectual discourse on "Quiet Luxury." I couldn't stop laughing out loud. Your acerbic wit, on point!!!
The "church" , the "cool girls" , the "loafers" and others. I was hoping that you would share your thoughts on this "new" trending topic. As a former luxury retail lady in the 90's, I experienced luxury before it became "the thing" to have. Our retail education was fabrics/textiles and craftsmanship, they were the holy grail and then the cut and design. I am grateful for my studies in Fashion Design, our core studies were textile history.
Today, when I shop, I purchase vintage or pre-loved or I design it myself. The fabrics today are a sad commentary on what we believe is luxury. The exception of course are the Loro Piana's and others whose history is rooted in textiles. Thank you for the education, and the history lesson on how "Quiet Luxury" rose to the top of the most desired list. Let us remember that design is an art form. Continued success!
Love the breath of your content! I never comment on videos, but had to log in (after watching on TV) to come leave a comment because giiiiirrrrll! Thank you for taking the conversation on ''quiet luxury'' all the way there. Love the critical analysis and you always have me chuckling!
Always been a fan, love to see you grow!! you need 1M NOW!! Thanks for all the effort you put into your entertaining content, the extra touch doesn't go unnoticed. You stand out in the best way !
First you look beautiful! Second thank you for this so eloquently put with straight facts. I’m still dying at “who said they were fashion icons” 😂. I will Stan forever ❤
Thank you sis!
THANK YOU so much for shedding some light on what “quiet luxury” can mean and some of the problematic ideas it propagates. There is so much cloaked language within these conversations that people either willfully ignore or naively don’t know and don’t take the time to learn. In general I’ve loved your content for a while but truly this is part of the conversation that needed to be presented. Thank you so much for your thoughtful analysis. ❤
I love my people, especially those who are super aware, vocal, and clear and forward thinkers!
This video made me smile. Please say it louder for the people in the back. This needed to be said. Interestingly, I have Middle Eastern and Persian friends that love wearing logos and bold gold jewelry no one in their community has an issue with it or are trolling online about it. Why do we the Black community have an issue with this…I agree with you some folks need therapy. On another note you always look great but that purple top and the makeup you paired with it outstanding stunning. Those are your colors!!! You look beautiful.
You know I'm one of your biggest fans! And, continue to be "Gucci down to the cashmere socks!" 😉❤
As a Native NYer this concept is GLARING in ya face. Chileeeeeee Old Money Vs New Money is a CLASS debate. IMHO I see both as offshoots of WS. Cuz TBH Even Blk ppl who are RICH ain't rich w/o someone being on the bottom. Example.... Rihanna. She's a Billionaire through CLOTHING, cheap labor and makeup, you can do the research on that. We give Riri a pass bc she's one of us. But NOBODY who is a billionaire got their money w/o using an underclass. I say this all while having Fenty products in my makeup case & Savage on my booty. I'm just not gonna mask it.
"IS MY LINEN WOVEN W/ALOE...YES OR NO?" 😂😂😂😂 Hee heeeeeeee❤
Sewed aloe into the linen??? Haiya!!!😮😅😂 I manifest aloe into all my clothes
Oh , and I have to add … you are amazing!!! I was laughing all the way through your brand reviews, I’m watching this in the gym and I almost fell off the treadmill 😂😂❤️❤️🙏
“Is my linen woven with aloe- yes or no?“ I’m saying this about everything from here on out lmfao. You are so funny
I am crying at your remarks 😂, love this video and it’s my first watching about this topic! Keep it coming love ❤
This has been one of the best CZcams fashion videos I have seen. Informative, thought provoking, and critically analysing. Politics and Fashion is certainly apt here.
Im dead sis....where are the juice boxes😭😭🤣🤣
You took the words right out of my mouth and I am sure I'm not the only one feeling this way about “ quiet luxury” Thank you.
Can I just say I recently found your channel and Chile I love it!!! Love you love to see it. Black excellence, class, style and grace. Thank you Sis!