lol can you IMAGINE the "I.T" that actually goes into trek tech? I do love that Lower Decks is poking fun but also adding to canon and expanding it. But seriously - the computer core of a Galaxy Class system and restored within the time it takes me to update World of Warships . . . lol
It takes forever (1-2 hours with prep and executives specifications and testing) just to reinstall windows as IT technician to replace a computer stations "image" . A "wipe and reload of the ENTIRE TNG system in SECONDS. AGREED with ya. Amazing .
When facing an imminent warp core breach, you better hope that LaForge had the Federation equivalent of a PS script handy to automate that process. But he had to know that was the right course of action first given the stakes. Totally doable in the 24th century. Every engineer has a bag of tricks up his sleeve.
Picard: Almost blows up on the planet, beams onto an enemy ship, almost gets shot, is beamed back to his own ship, and then finds out that his 2nd in command found the solution and saved both ships. Walks away like it was nothing.
@@Ooilei It's because the producers in Hollywood today are too fixated on pushing woke leftist politics in Star Trek among countless other once-popular franchises in order to corrupt today's generation rather than entertain. Star Trek died completely with the release of Discovery.
@@Ooilei I know, it's a late reply, but... the entire premise of the Picard series was that Picard has changed so much that he's not the same person we knew anymore. They botched it, but at least in that aspect, that is not a surprise.
I always loved the common-sense way Geordi had for explaining things. “Look, bro. We’re borked either way, so let me do this thing that just might get us out of this mess. Cool? Thanks.”
Geordi didn't have Scotty's personality and tended to expose the weakness of some of the writers. One of the movies had him use the strictly forbidden phrase "it must have somehow..."
I wonder if it further cemented their belief that Starfleet was responsible. How else would Riker have known? Riker doesn't even say it's the iconians doing it, just sending over "instructions on how to purge your systems".
@@outelf The Romulans should have seen that the Enterprise was also having technical issues, and that it finally stopped having them shortly before they sent the transmission. It would be logical to infer that the Enterprise was also a victim, and simply managed to find a fix. Of course, they are not Vulcans, they are Romulans... so they're always going to wonder if it was all just a trick.
@@sheilaolfieway1885 Yeah, that and the fact that they were having count down to self destruct, you'd think they've already tried to shut down everything, if for no other reason but to not fucking explode.
"Geordi: "We'll have to shut down everything." Antimatter Containment: "Lol."" -It's a good joke. But technically, Geordi just meant the Enterprise computer.
Ever hear of “fail safe”? All it needs is power, not computers. It’s like the avionics master switch on my airplane. If it fails, pull the circuit breaker. It’s normally closed, held open by power.
Well I guess Auto Destructs are things you dont want just anyone to easily be able to deactivate after they are set off since most likely they are to keep the ship out of enemy hands or to take out mutinous crews or some such o.o
The point of the episode was that a virus was infected their computers trying to rewrite them. So the auto destruct being on and them not being able to turn it off was a result of that virus.
I’ve always found it funny that the Romulan computer PA sounds like it’s saying “Captain Picard”, as he materializes on their bridge. 2:27 Picard alert!
Turn off the ship, turn it back on. Disclaimer: Your ship was not shut down properly. Do not shut down the ship until scan is complete. An update is required before restarting the ship would you like to install the update? Once update is installed restart the ship. Yes No
Ship is installing an update. Do not switch off or restart the ship while this process is in operation. Do you wish to request the Romulans cease fire while the update is in progress?
This is what Troi aka Major Rakal should've said to Toreth in "Face of the Enemy" right before Worf had her beamed to the Enterprise. Toreth and Taris are played by the same actress ironically.
You would think by the 24th century computers would be more capable of protecting their files and data from what essentially amounts to a computer virus.
I like how the Romulan commander said that "nothing could stop the autodestruct", yet they were able to shut down their computer, restart it, and nothing went BOOOOOOM!!! It's not much of a failsafe autodestruct if a simple reboot and restore from backup stops it.
The auto-destruct is a separate system that keeps running. The main computer can start or stop the countdown, but it's not necessary to continue the countdown. So Torres shut down everything including the main computer. The auto-destruct kept going in the background. Once the computers were restarted, Torres was able to stop it.
2:16 "Everything is going haywire and there's a count down to self-distruct in Iconian" 2:28 "Everything is going haywire and there's a count down to self-distruct in Romulan, big improvement"
Cmd Taurus: "...at least will get to see you die with us." Picard: "Not I think today." Did ya notice that Iconian is the root of Romulan and, by extension, Vulcan?
@@TheLizardOfOz Honestly, anything before JJ Trek. I'm not saying I hate JJ Trek, but it's when the rot set in. 09 was good, but you could see the patterns forming. More spectacle, less detail. From there, the pattern kept getting worse and worse, till here we are today.
@@TheLizardOfOz STP is basically Mass Effect/Firefly. I wouldn't call it terrible, it just isn't Star Trek. What I will also add, is DS9 and TOS are also up there in terms of great Star Trek. Voy was hit and miss (some great episodes though), and, while Ent has a special place in my heart, I can understand why it isn't rated higher. It is held back by being a prequel, so could never be as grandiose as other Treks, but it did have it's own charm, IMO.
TOS was more Twilight Zone/SciFi/adventure. Very fun, if a bit campy at times. TNG was part SciFi, but much more character drama than TOS. More stuffy than TOS, but majestic at times. DS9 went even further in the drama direction. Couldn't get through much if it. VOY tried to return more to the TNG formula, but without Brent Spiner or Patrick Stewart, it lacked it's magic. CBS Star Trek is as much Star Trek as Guitar Hero is being in a band.
The Romulan backup is way faster. They are a secretive race. Even the coordinates of Romulus are only in the captain's memory. Enterprise has to reload the crew database, the recipe for Earl Grey, the sound samples of the computer voice, evasive maneuvers Riker 1-16 and all
In VERY VERY old DOS BASIC, you could rewrite memory with a command called POKE, then type in a memory address and bit value. This stored that bit in that part of memory. If you happened to corrupt a piece of memory that was more than trivial, you could detrimentally effect the computer functions. This was most easily solved exactly as depicted here. I'm well aware 90+% of people reading this already understand, but I wanted to give a little more explicit history.
The floors of the ships are supposed to be made from "grav-plating" which directs artificial gravity in a single direction. Supposedly, the grav-plating doesn't need any power because the unidirectional artificial gravity is a natural part of its construction.
@@melkiorwiseman5234 thank you for that stimulating response. Doesn't the ship need an artificial gravity generator to be running constantly though? If the grav plating is self-sustaining, i think the material would become inert over time as it becomes used up
@@danwat1234 Maybe it actually gets inert over time but they reactivate it somehow with energy or replace it when they go to starbases for repairs and diagnostics.
Picard comes back, doesn't give a shit if the romulan vessel is destroyed. Riker saves them at the last moment, Picard acts like a jerk and leaves a confused crew behind. Great ending, excellent writing, well done.
IMO, he's not acting like a "jerk" at all. As a captain of the Enterprise. His 1st concern should be the wellbeing of his crew & then his ship. In that order. He has no idea that a solution has been found that could potentially save both vessels. All he knows at this time is that the Enterprise is safe & the Romulan vessel is about to self-destruct with no way of saving it. Bear in mind, Romulan vessels are effectively powered by a mini black hole, so once it loses its containment, anything nearby (in this case, the Enterprise) will also be destroyed.
Got to love how fast the Romulans were getting their system Rebooted. The Enterprise just sent off the information, and set a course out of there, when the Romulans already rebooted and hit the gas. 😂
@@Furzkampfbomber I was thinking the same thing myself. My only hypothesis is that they have a mechanical back up for the system, since, as you pointed out, any failure of said system would be catastrophic.
@@TheEDFLegacy Unless the containment field for their singularity does more then just hold it in place, it would not actually be catastrophic. I am assuming it is a micro-black hole they keep feeding matter to. If they lost all power, the worst that would happen, is that they would stop throwing it more material to consume, and nothing would happen first, the black hole would just evaporate after a while. Unless some idiot got them to move while containment is down, in that case, it would leave an actual hole as they leave it behind.
@@atrociousconsequences4432 actually for a brief period in the late 80s there was a screw up in FCC regulations. And you could air movies unedited for about 6 to 9 months. Fbombs and all. 88 or 89. And boy, did they
@@atrociousconsequences4432 While I don't like lots of contemporary speech & (especially) swearing in my Trek .. . Trek HAS often pushed boundaries. And it even swore once in TOS! At the end of the episode 'City on the Edge of Forever', a traumatized & heartbroken Kirk said, "Let's get the 'HELL' out of here." Scandalous!
I'd appreciate it if you didn't comment on what I can or can't grasp, thanks.. He says memory not file-storage. This is giving a lot of credit to the writers, but this implies that the Iconian program is running in active memory and not affecting anything in permanent storage.
@@tkardaishou Actually, stupid, he DID say storage. He was going to need to RESTORE files and programs stored in the protected part of the computer core. In other words, a system restore from the moment before the downloaded the Yamato logs. PAy attention next time and maybe you won't come off as such a dumbass.
Starfleet Tech Support(in a Pakistani accent): Hello, this is Jeff. How may I help you? Geordi: Hello, tech support? We're having problems with our operating system. Starfleet Tech Support: Did you try purging your cache? Geordi: No, this isn't Windows 95. Starfleet Tech Support: Hmmm. Did you try turning it off and turning it back on? Geordi: No, we never thought of that. Let me give it a try. Starfleet Tech Support: Give me a number where we can reach you in case we get cu...... Geordi: Hey, that actually worked.
If Riker barked at me saying "Mike this is critical! How?!" I'd be like no shit captain Obvious. Shut up and let me think. I'm definitely not starfleet material.😂😂😂
If only they had an Enterprise Information System™, they could have re-routed through Cleveland automatically and their end users never would have even known they had a problem.
@@BloodySeaGullsRoss Star Trek was never (nor was it ever meant to be) escapism. Star Trek had always been slapping us in the face with what you call a "political agenda", it simply didn't bother us back then. Otherwise, the principal idea was that if we saw a better world, we would work toward making it happen. We never did, in fact we just made things worse. Well, now they have to take a different approach until we finally get our act together.
Same thing happened to me when I upgraded from Vista to Win 10. Had to do a system purge then reinstall from protected archive. Some things never change . . . even in the 23rd century. LOL
If you're interested the CZcams channel certifiably ingame has a really good "career bio" of him explaining his career and rank jumps. It's definitely worth a watch.
@@FireLordJohn3191 How many star trek shows and movies are used at a collegiate level? The answer may surprise you. Trite dialogue and deus ex machina are not popular with a modern audience, certainly not at the educational curriculum that writers pass.
@@Leadbetter500 Wrong. Modern writing is garbage! The problem is that modern writing courses teach exactly what you are talking about; it has to have some sort of contrived, convoluted solution that makes no sense in any sort of context other than the head of the writer.
At the end they didn't even go to warp and the Romulans rebooted almost instantly? This episode feels like they were running up against a deadline crunch and just shoved it out the door at the end.
They had written a brilliant ending, but their Word Processing program went sideways. By the time their tech support arrived and told them to reboot, this ending was all they had time to shoot. I'm not disagreeing, just explaining what happened....maybe?
Later in the series they said the power sources for Romulan ships, trilithium, could not be turned off, so maybe that Romulan ship was actually Iconian in disguise, oh the technology.
His call is correct RT procedure. SOP is to open an exchange by announcing the call sign of the receiving party. Always annoys me when they get that the wrong way round (eg "Alpha one To control" (yuk) so points to the production team for getting this right.
@@alastairbrand5821 Exactly. I'm a pilot, and this is standard radio procedure. You always start with the name of who you are calling, and then identify yourself.
These answers are correct. It's a communication process referred to as "called party first." When people hear their name, they listen up. If you say their name, then say your name, they're more likely to hear who is calling them the first time. It saves time on the radio.
What Riker did there at the end is PEAK Federation, not what Picard was spewing to Lilly in First Contact. A lot of lip service, but few actions. Riker would have been perfectly fine, in the audience's mind, letting the Romulans get blown up, but he saved them, but kept relations as they were without making things worse. Now the Romulans would have a better view of not just the Federation, but of humans too.
Configuring update for NCC 1701-D
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Do not turn off your Starship.
"damn it Starfleet, i was in a pursuit of smuggler ship"
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Geordi,
"Our ship just got bricked..."
Picard,
"What have they done to my ship??"
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As a sysadmin, a complete power down and restore from backup in less than 10 seconds is the most amazing thing about the entire episode.
lol can you IMAGINE the "I.T" that actually goes into trek tech? I do love that Lower Decks is poking fun but also adding to canon and expanding it. But seriously - the computer core of a Galaxy Class system and restored within the time it takes me to update World of Warships . . . lol
It takes forever (1-2 hours with prep and executives specifications and testing) just to reinstall windows as IT technician to replace a computer stations "image" . A "wipe and reload of the ENTIRE TNG system in SECONDS. AGREED with ya. Amazing .
picard was ready to leave the romulans left to blow themselves up without offering to take the crew abooarD?
When facing an imminent warp core breach, you better hope that LaForge had the Federation equivalent of a PS script handy to automate that process.
But he had to know that was the right course of action first given the stakes.
Totally doable in the 24th century. Every engineer has a bag of tricks up his sleeve.
"Hold on to your butts..."
Picard: Almost blows up on the planet, beams onto an enemy ship, almost gets shot, is beamed back to his own ship, and then finds out that his 2nd in command found the solution and saved both ships. Walks away like it was nothing.
Walks away like a boss.
"Same old routine" aboard the enterprise.
I miss this Picard. New Picard seems like a different person, I can't look up to him the same way I looked up this man
@@Ooilei It's because the producers in Hollywood today are too fixated on pushing woke leftist politics in Star Trek among countless other once-popular franchises in order to corrupt today's generation rather than entertain. Star Trek died completely with the release of Discovery.
@@Ooilei I know, it's a late reply, but... the entire premise of the Picard series was that Picard has changed so much that he's not the same person we knew anymore. They botched it, but at least in that aspect, that is not a surprise.
Data comes back from the dead with unknown mental defects and they put him right into the captains chair.
....and yet he doesn't crash it, better record than other commanders I could mention >_>
@flownet07 Well no, not a promotion, he just "had the con," he was top-ranked officer on the bridge at the time.
And why not, the only thing wrong was a little short-term memory loss.
Sounds like they predicted Trump's rise to power.
@@redavatar ZIIIIINGER!!
I always loved the common-sense way Geordi had for explaining things. “Look, bro. We’re borked either way, so let me do this thing that just might get us out of this mess. Cool? Thanks.”
Geordi didn't have Scotty's personality and tended to expose the weakness of some of the writers. One of the movies had him use the strictly forbidden phrase "it must have somehow..."
and Will, not having a valid counterargument for it ... let Geordi do it.
Gotta admire Commander Riker for his willingness to save the Romulans at the end.
I wonder if it further cemented their belief that Starfleet was responsible. How else would Riker have known? Riker doesn't even say it's the iconians doing it, just sending over "instructions on how to purge your systems".
@@outelf The Romulans should have seen that the Enterprise was also having technical issues, and that it finally stopped having them shortly before they sent the transmission. It would be logical to infer that the Enterprise was also a victim, and simply managed to find a fix.
Of course, they are not Vulcans, they are Romulans... so they're always going to wonder if it was all just a trick.
Riker should have sent over a 'Rick Roll Video' instead of the fix. The the Romulans last words would be *It's a FAAAKE*
They also could have beamed the Romulans aboard rather than counting on them to be able to implement the fix before they explode.
He even interrupted Captain Picard to do it.
Geordi: "We'll have to shut down everything."
Antimatter Containment: "Lol."
That'd be really easy on a romulan warbird once the singularity is started you can't turn it off.
Still chuckling at this after 2 weeks.
@@sheilaolfieway1885 Yeah, that and the fact that they were having count down to self destruct, you'd think they've already tried to shut down everything, if for no other reason but to not fucking explode.
"Geordi: "We'll have to shut down everything."
Antimatter Containment: "Lol.""
-It's a good joke.
But technically, Geordi just meant the Enterprise computer.
Ever hear of “fail safe”?
All it needs is power, not computers.
It’s like the avionics master switch on my airplane. If it fails, pull the circuit breaker. It’s normally closed, held open by power.
"Query. What have I forgotten?" I need that on a t-shirt
“i cannot deactivate the auto destruct” that seems like something you really should be able to deactivate.
I mean, apparently they shut down the auto destruct just seconds later anyway.
Well I guess Auto Destructs are things you dont want just anyone to easily be able to deactivate after they are set off since most likely they are to keep the ship out of enemy hands or to take out mutinous crews or some such o.o
The point of the episode was that a virus was infected their computers trying to rewrite them. So the auto destruct being on and them not being able to turn it off was a result of that virus.
In reality, the Auto destruct should be something you can enable and disable by hand.
@@RequiemPoete They need a big button for it, one that works...like Trumpy Dumpy has
No no no... You guys got it mixed up. This is not a simple restart your computer. It is a wipe and reinstall windows from a recovery image.
Don't spoil the joke.
It actually was a system restore. Only the recent activity was purged.
@@frankstrawnation *improve the joke
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Which normally fails miserably
I’ve always found it funny that the Romulan computer PA sounds like it’s saying “Captain Picard”, as he materializes on their bridge.
2:27 Picard alert!
2:27
Same.
OMG. I thought I was crazy!
Sounded like all the way through.😂
I thought the very exact same thing.
Riker: "Now Mr. Data, warp speed please, just in case Taris' engineer is not as efficient as our Mr. LaForge.
Taris: "I heard that!"
Taris is a distant relative of Barth?
So the iconia run their vast empire on windows? No wonder if failed.
Their
I think the iconians were using windows vista.
@@thunberbolttwo3953 nah Windows ME ...
Windows 3.1?
@@richardm3023 I'd rather use 3.1 than ME any day of the week.
They should've done more with the Iconians. They seemed so interesting.
One of my top 5 TNG episodes.
The iconians are the the big bad guy in Star Trek Online.
I think they were briefly mentioned in ds9 when weyoun wants to stop the jem hadar from using the gateways
God... dammit Sela.
@@mikegallant811was a cracking quest line as well
The Iconian war is one of the biggest and story wise one of the best mission blocks in Star Trek Online.
Classic Iconians with their cracked windows 8 copy.
Vista, more likely.
Unpatched Windows ME attempting to run Bob.
@@annoyed707Command prompt: BLUE BLUE BLUE AMBER: instant crash dump (BSOD).
Picard: "Blue, yellow, yellow, red."
Computer: "Blue, yellow, yellow, red, blue."
Picard: "Blue, yellow, yellow, red, blue."
Computer: "Blue, yellow, yellow, red, blue, red."
Picard: "Goddamn, this isn't a console, this is a toy!"
That's not a toy, it's child focused torture device that consumes batteries as bribes.
Simon
@@fredweller1086 Came here to say that but couldn't remember the name of the game
More like Super Simon.
Good thing there weren't four lights.
Classic IT fix, turn it off and on again. Even in the future I could be the Chief of Engineering.
it must be a windows machine
Standard Android protocol on corrupted system files... Factory reset to reload default firmware. Still works on Data. Go figure.
can you do the escape roll tho?
@@SophiesDriver At least they didn't get the blue screen of death! LOL.
@@delvinciposterkid Why not? Reboot from fresh code. I love this episode so much and is a shade over 21 years old. CGI is dated by holds up damn well.
Commander Toras, press CTRL+ALT+DEL
"Commander Toras, tell your Chief Engineer to go to "Settings" and tap "Reset".
Too bad Romulans use Apple.
Captain PIcard. PROVEN friend to the Romulans. He helped them out more than once.
Picard has helped the romulans out of quite a few jams.
There is no greater diplomat than one who that extends an olive branch at every opportunity.
I like the last scene, showing the Iconian base being destroyed and that the Warbird was able to save itself.
People joke but I remember when this first aired and for an audience that wasn’t computer literate rebooting WAS a brilliant high-tech solution.
Low-tech not high-tech.
Turn off the ship, turn it back on.
Disclaimer: Your ship was not shut down properly. Do not shut down the ship until scan is complete. An update is required before restarting the ship would you like to install the update?
Once update is installed restart the ship.
Yes No
Sorry Captain warp engines off line. Windows is updating.
If you brick the Enterprise that is going to be one interesting RMA.
Ship is installing an update. Do not switch off or restart the ship while this process is in operation.
Do you wish to request the Romulans cease fire while the update is in progress?
Just before a battle (This ship is freeware. Please register to continue using this product)
Your.
The series really started to hit its stride at about this point
Riker's beard was a big part of that!
@@mikes2177 tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GrowingTheBeard
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@@mikes2177 yes, ... either that or his leg whip over the back of chairs as he sat.
@@mikes2177 The series grew better as his beard grew fuller, but it's greatness was wiped out with one fell swoop of the razor in Insurrection...
"Not I think today, Commander" haha. This series will always be epic. One of a kind.
This is what Troi aka Major Rakal should've said to Toreth in "Face of the Enemy" right before Worf had her beamed to the Enterprise. Toreth and Taris are played by the same actress ironically.
@@jaqenhghar2970 Even funnier when you realize in that case it was a pre-Mass Effect showdown. Matriarch Benezia and the Normandy's doctor!
It was actually a system restore guys.
Feeling like one of those moments where the captain knows more than engineering.
Not even that. They deleted all data before the event AND the OS and installed from known-good backup.
You would think by the 24th century computers would be more capable of protecting their files and data from what essentially amounts to a computer virus.
@@protoborg You would think computer viruses become extremely good at their job, right?
2:20 "Oh, what the heck. Taking my chances with the Romulans is better than staying here and getting blown to bits."
I like how the Romulan commander said that "nothing could stop the autodestruct", yet they were able to shut down their computer, restart it, and nothing went BOOOOOOM!!! It's not much of a failsafe autodestruct if a simple reboot and restore from backup stops it.
I like to think that the auto destruct kept running, and they blew up shortly after going off screen.
shh, don't expose plot holes
Perhaps once their systems were running normally again, they could stop the auto destruct the way they normally would.
They just needed a new windows update to be installed ... :D
The auto-destruct is a separate system that keeps running. The main computer can start or stop the countdown, but it's not necessary to continue the countdown. So Torres shut down everything including the main computer. The auto-destruct kept going in the background. Once the computers were restarted, Torres was able to stop it.
2:16 "Everything is going haywire and there's a count down to self-distruct in Iconian"
2:28 "Everything is going haywire and there's a count down to self-distruct in Romulan, big improvement"
Funny how they sound remarkably similar.
The devil you know…
Cmd Taurus: "...at least will get to see you die with us."
Picard: "Not I think today."
Did ya notice that Iconian is the root of Romulan and, by extension, Vulcan?
To be fair, 'Same old routine' for the Enterprise usually involves some sort of life-threatening peril
3:19 "Not I think today, Commander."
"Darn it!"
This is why old trek is better than new trek. It was fun.
Do you mean old Trek as in '60s Trek, or old Trek as in '70s Trek?
@@TheLizardOfOz Honestly, anything before JJ Trek. I'm not saying I hate JJ Trek, but it's when the rot set in. 09 was good, but you could see the patterns forming. More spectacle, less detail. From there, the pattern kept getting worse and worse, till here we are today.
@@mattevans4377 I think STNG was peak Trek.
Have you watched Picard? Opinion?
@@TheLizardOfOz STP is basically Mass Effect/Firefly. I wouldn't call it terrible, it just isn't Star Trek. What I will also add, is DS9 and TOS are also up there in terms of great Star Trek. Voy was hit and miss (some great episodes though), and, while Ent has a special place in my heart, I can understand why it isn't rated higher. It is held back by being a prequel, so could never be as grandiose as other Treks, but it did have it's own charm, IMO.
TOS was more Twilight Zone/SciFi/adventure. Very fun, if a bit campy at times.
TNG was part SciFi, but much more character drama than TOS. More stuffy than TOS, but majestic at times.
DS9 went even further in the drama direction. Couldn't get through much if it.
VOY tried to return more to the TNG formula, but without Brent Spiner or Patrick Stewart, it lacked it's magic.
CBS Star Trek is as much Star Trek as Guitar Hero is being in a band.
Just a quick reminder:
There are four lights
What lights?
@@RequiemPoete - you need to see the episode where Picard is taken hostage and the number of lights is the thing.
@@RequiemPoete Season 6
Episode 10 and 11
Picard "Lets get out of here, I dont care about the Romulans"
Gets his own series "I care about the Romulans now"
Hmmmm......
“The only constant in life is change” - Heraclitus.
Junk tv that’s not the Picard I grew up with it’s more like professor X lolol
Well, he didn't know that there was a solution to their problem.
SuperAp0calypse I’m shook lol. So true!
Hmm...you must not be a TNG fan.
Either the navigation officer took his sweet damn time to plot a course to warp away, or the Romulan's engineer is way more efficient than La Forge...
OR ... romulan reboot has far fewer subsystems den Enterprise's ...
@@rvog6584 that's a good possibility
@@rvog6584 likely so, but in the time it takes the warbird to reboot, set course and engage, the enterprise has barely started to move.
The Romulan backup is way faster. They are a secretive race. Even the coordinates of Romulus are only in the captain's memory.
Enterprise has to reload the crew database, the recipe for Earl Grey, the sound samples of the computer voice, evasive maneuvers Riker 1-16 and all
In VERY VERY old DOS BASIC, you could rewrite memory with a command called POKE, then type in a memory address and bit value. This stored that bit in that part of memory. If you happened to corrupt a piece of memory that was more than trivial, you could detrimentally effect the computer functions. This was most easily solved exactly as depicted here. I'm well aware 90+% of people reading this already understand, but I wanted to give a little more explicit history.
Yes, the Enterprise’s OS was written in BASIC. Makes sense. /s
2:42 "How the he--. Never mind, just get him out of there."
I guess they left out the part where artificial gravity went offline when they rebooted the ship.
The floors of the ships are supposed to be made from "grav-plating" which directs artificial gravity in a single direction. Supposedly, the grav-plating doesn't need any power because the unidirectional artificial gravity is a natural part of its construction.
@@melkiorwiseman5234 thank you for that stimulating response. Doesn't the ship need an artificial gravity generator to be running constantly though? If the grav plating is self-sustaining, i think the material would become inert over time as it becomes used up
@@danwat1234 It's fiction. You're supposed to just accept it even though it makes no sense. :)
I love Star Trek’s play doh science!
@@danwat1234 Maybe it actually gets inert over time but they reactivate it somehow with energy or replace it when they go to starbases for repairs and diagnostics.
Picard comes back, doesn't give a shit if the romulan vessel is destroyed. Riker saves them at the last moment, Picard acts like a jerk and leaves a confused crew behind.
Great ending, excellent writing, well done.
IMO, he's not acting like a "jerk" at all. As a captain of the Enterprise. His 1st concern should be the wellbeing of his crew & then his ship. In that order. He has no idea that a solution has been found that could potentially save both vessels. All he knows at this time is that the Enterprise is safe & the Romulan vessel is about to self-destruct with no way of saving it. Bear in mind, Romulan vessels are effectively powered by a mini black hole, so once it loses its containment, anything nearby (in this case, the Enterprise) will also be destroyed.
This show is pure gold.
Would have been utterly hilarious if the warbird just exploded when the credit roll started
That got me laughing just thinking about it. XD
The little explosion in the background on the planet as the scene ends is a nice touch.
To scale, that "little explosion" would be what size...anything between 50-100 miles?!
@@houstonhelicoptertours1006 Dunno, I don't remember the rest of the episode but it stands to reason it encompassed the entire structure at least.
Love how they talk about data like he’s not even there
That's because his mind was not fully there yet. His system was still rebuilding from the fix.
Regardless, it was great comedy. What would have been more hilarious is Spiner talking like the character he played in Night Court.
Stargate before Stargate. 😀
Got to love how fast the Romulans were getting their system Rebooted. The Enterprise just sent off the information, and set a course out of there, when the Romulans already rebooted and hit the gas. 😂
And I still wonder how you reboot a romulan ship without the magnetic fields holding the black hole that serves as power source collapsing.
@@Furzkampfbomber they are on there own separate power system
@@Furzkampfbomber I was thinking the same thing myself. My only hypothesis is that they have a mechanical back up for the system, since, as you pointed out, any failure of said system would be catastrophic.
@@TheEDFLegacy Unless the containment field for their singularity does more then just hold it in place, it would not actually be catastrophic. I am assuming it is a micro-black hole they keep feeding matter to. If they lost all power, the worst that would happen, is that they would stop throwing it more material to consume, and nothing would happen first, the black hole would just evaporate after a while. Unless some idiot got them to move while containment is down, in that case, it would leave an actual hole as they leave it behind.
Furzkampfbomber maybe the computer controlling that is airgapped and doesn’t need rebooting
No alcoholic vapers, no poverty, no swearing...is this even trek?
Believe it or not, but 32 years ago swearing was not allowed on regular TV.
Sheer fu@%ing hubris!
@@atrociousconsequences4432 ah ok, so because TV standards have laxed so should star trek, got it. That's what Gene would have wanted.
@@atrociousconsequences4432 actually for a brief period in the late 80s there was a screw up in FCC regulations. And you could air movies unedited for about 6 to 9 months. Fbombs and all. 88 or 89. And boy, did they
@@atrociousconsequences4432 While I don't like lots of contemporary speech & (especially) swearing in my Trek .. .
Trek HAS often pushed boundaries. And it even swore once in TOS! At the end of the episode 'City on the Edge of Forever', a traumatized & heartbroken Kirk said, "Let's get the 'HELL' out of here."
Scandalous!
I actually cannot believe that it took hours for Geordi and the rest of Engineering AND DATA to think of "reboot the system in safe mode."
Not a reboot, it was a reboot then restore. Funny how many people can't grasp that.
I'd appreciate it if you didn't comment on what I can or can't grasp, thanks.. He says memory not file-storage. This is giving a lot of credit to the writers, but this implies that the Iconian program is running in active memory and not affecting anything in permanent storage.
It's a low-tech ancient solution that's why they don't think low-tech anymore.
@@tkardaishou Actually, stupid, he DID say storage. He was going to need to RESTORE files and programs stored in the protected part of the computer core. In other words, a system restore from the moment before the downloaded the Yamato logs. PAy attention next time and maybe you won't come off as such a dumbass.
This is the second best story about switching it off and on again after Jurassic Park.
Probably the most Iconic scene from TNG
I see what you did there.
First episode I ever watched. I was like in elementary school but somehow stopped on that channel
Not i think today commander, Picard had such a way of saying things lol
"Can I help?" Says he holding back a smile.
and he sounds so cute asking that too
No one ever thinks to try rebooting...
Starfleet Tech Support(in a Pakistani accent): Hello, this is Jeff. How may I help you?
Geordi: Hello, tech support? We're having problems with our operating system.
Starfleet Tech Support: Did you try purging your cache?
Geordi: No, this isn't Windows 95.
Starfleet Tech Support: Hmmm. Did you try turning it off and turning it back on?
Geordi: No, we never thought of that. Let me give it a try.
Starfleet Tech Support: Give me a number where we can reach you in case we get cu......
Geordi: Hey, that actually worked.
Wrong, not just a reset.
Do the same. Use Filipino accent.
@@kenet71 we always get India for some reason...even when we press 1 for English.
Go to the WalMart and purchase Google Play card, then you will pay me with Google Play card.
If Riker barked at me saying "Mike this is critical! How?!"
I'd be like no shit captain Obvious. Shut up and let me think.
I'm definitely not starfleet material.😂😂😂
IT
I must think for a minute. You'll need to raise a ticket.
If this was new Trek they would have let the Romulans die.
if this was new Trek they'd let everyone but Geordi Die.
If only they had an Enterprise Information System™, they could have re-routed through Cleveland automatically and their end users never would have even known they had a problem.
Hello, Cleveland. Rock and roll
I loved her silent rage as Pecard teleported😆🤣👍
MrDEMarq reminds me of my ex....
It took them until the end of the show to realize a power down and "reset to factory defaults" was the solution, LOL.
It would have been funny if the rebooted computer had Hal's voice🤣🤣.
Riker's like "Fuck you captain."
Ah the good old “have you tried turning it off and on again” technique. One wonders if we got it from this episode lol.
I still remember this...
Blue AMBER AMBER red.......... since I was 14. I'm now 47
I also can remember that sequence for all the good it does. 🤪
3:13 "Not effing today... commander..."
When Star Trek was loving crafted unlike the awful modern stuff!
Callum Bush the modern stuff is to politically driven. There is no love or room for great stories and adventures. I miss the old treks
@@BloodySeaGullsRoss yeah I preferred the more innocent and cerebral star trek rather than this gungho wannabe Rambo type of of show!
Callum Bush absolutely, you want to be able to escape the real world for a time and not have to be constantly bombarded by it.
@@BloodySeaGullsRoss Star Trek was never (nor was it ever meant to be) escapism. Star Trek had always been slapping us in the face with what you call a "political agenda", it simply didn't bother us back then. Otherwise, the principal idea was that if we saw a better world, we would work toward making it happen. We never did, in fact we just made things worse. Well, now they have to take a different approach until we finally get our act together.
K1productions pity, oh well
Same thing happened to me when I upgraded from Vista to Win 10.
Had to do a system purge then reinstall from protected archive.
Some things never change . . . even in the 23rd century. LOL
Iconians were criminally underused
They play a major role in Star Trek: Online
@DriftZ TwoSeven how about the Dowd or the Shelliac?
@@xandersnyder7214 yes... I've always thought a major conflict with the Shelliac would make a good movie.
I am glad that I have all my Star Trek collection this is a great TV show I am going to enjoy the voyages by going where no man has gone before
When Picard materializes on Enterprise he says
Bridge to Picard..😂
He says: "Bridge, Picard"
"May I help?"
Dumb Data is Best Data
The Enterprise did a server rollback.
That's a classic strategy in the Enterprise IT sector
More like a 'checkpoint rollback'. Forgive me for picking the nit.
@@Kevin_Kennelly it was also a minecraft joke.
Every time "Picard" blows something up, just assume that he's a Ghostbuster with a trap collecting stuff.
love the sound of the warbird at the end as it takes off
How great it must have been for Riker, knowing those Romulans have to live knowing they were saved by a Starfleet officer.
Carolyn Seymour had the best cheek bone structure, with which to play a Romulan, as well as the voice.
Good to see Obrien wearing Lieutenant pips.
If you're interested the CZcams channel certifiably ingame has a really good "career bio" of him explaining his career and rank jumps. It's definitely worth a watch.
O'Brian later fighting the Jem'Hadar on the Defiant, "Damn, I wish I was on the Enterprise!"
I like to imagine these are new episodes produced just this year.
I love Riker using Picard's catchprase "Make it so ," and Carolyn Seymour as the Romulan Commander.
"Hello, IT. Have you tried turning it off and on again?"
Geordi: "We can try reinstalling the operating system from the recovery partition!" The Enterprise is an Apple.
That...no. Recovery partitions exist on multiple OS's, not just OSX.
Perfect ending. Even with that place on the planet blowing up instead of the other ship.! Well done.
Romulans: "Our ship is blowing up!"
Riker: "Did you try rebooting?"
Scene writing has came a long way in three decades
Better then than now.
@@FireLordJohn3191 How many star trek shows and movies are used at a collegiate level? The answer may surprise you.
Trite dialogue and deus ex machina are not popular with a modern audience, certainly not at the educational curriculum that writers pass.
@@Leadbetter500 Wrong. Modern writing is garbage! The problem is that modern writing courses teach exactly what you are talking about; it has to have some sort of contrived, convoluted solution that makes no sense in any sort of context other than the head of the writer.
Nice touch with the explosions down on the planet towards the end.
At the end they didn't even go to warp and the Romulans rebooted almost instantly? This episode feels like they were running up against a deadline crunch and just shoved it out the door at the end.
They had written a brilliant ending, but their Word Processing program went sideways. By the time their tech support arrived and told them to reboot, this ending was all they had time to shoot.
I'm not disagreeing, just explaining what happened....maybe?
1:18 "Have you tried unplugging the Enterprise and then plugging it back in?"
I wonder if the iconian gateway connects with the one in the gamma quadrant that sisko helped the jem'hadar destroy?
Later in the series they said the power sources for Romulan ships, trilithium, could not be turned off, so maybe that Romulan ship was actually Iconian in disguise, oh the technology.
Or the screenwriters just forgot.
Anyone else come here for some real Picard?
Star Trek Picard is a bit of a flop isn't it
2:41 "howdada"
1:48 "May I help?" Poor Data. They talk over the guy like he's not there and he still wants to pitch in.
Even the transporter knows not to interrupt Picard
"Hello IT, have you tried turning it off and on again?"
3:29 Why does Picard say, “Bridge to Picard” when he is calling the bridge from the transporter pad? 🤔
He says: "Bridge, Picard". There's no "to". It's shorthand for: "Bridge, this is Picard".
His call is correct RT procedure.
SOP is to open an exchange by announcing the call sign of the receiving party.
Always annoys me when they get that the wrong way round (eg "Alpha one To control" (yuk) so points to the production team for getting this right.
@@alastairbrand5821 Exactly. I'm a pilot, and this is standard radio procedure. You always start with the name of who you are calling, and then identify yourself.
These answers are correct. It's a communication process referred to as "called party first." When people hear their name, they listen up. If you say their name, then say your name, they're more likely to hear who is calling them the first time. It saves time on the radio.
It's good to see Lt. O'Brien before the incident which lead to his demotion to NCO.
I think he delivered his line wrong when he beamed back on enterprise, he touched his comunicator and said bridge to picard.
It takes LaForge hours to figure out to restore from backup and reset. Any junior IT from the primitive 20th century could have told him that.
What Riker did there at the end is PEAK Federation, not what Picard was spewing to Lilly in First Contact. A lot of lip service, but few actions. Riker would have been perfectly fine, in the audience's mind, letting the Romulans get blown up, but he saved them, but kept relations as they were without making things worse. Now the Romulans would have a better view of not just the Federation, but of humans too.
4:08 The way his head looks...I wonder what it would look like half way between him and a xenomorph.
Yes, thank you! Now I am happy.
You're welcome!
@@April-dv2pbThis video now has 474k views, good suggestion, huh?
@@excrono yes it's was. Thank you again.