I found this disturbing. I was in Reading Jail about this time, another Victorian relic, and the regime is a reflection of the governor. In the time I was there there were no fights, no assaults, the screws ( all local cos it was a local jail) were all reasonable and respectful, we had some long bang up days and some days we got out and played volleyball in the yard. It was friendly and relaxed. The governor was a good natured man and ran a relaxed prison. This strangeways shit hole is a disgrace, it reflects the shitbag running it. Hard discipline and hard routine takes more effort to enforce and causes pressure to build up as petty injustices just mount up daily As we saw in 1990 when they destroyed the place. The punishment is the loss of liberty, not the routine that’s enforced while having the loss of liberty. I did the short sharp shock at Haslar, I did Portland as well, it doesn’t work as a deterrent. It costs much more and gives licence to officers who have a nasty streak to exercise that streak. These places are full of the social casualties of society, ( plus some who need to be executed or locked away for ever). Mostly they suffered from childhood traumas, no father, council care homes, low intelligence low educational attainment etc. mostly they can’t be helped and eventually mostly they grow out of it and calm down into their lives of drinking, and benefits and just bumping along the bottom. I was an exception, got a good job, I even worked in one screws house afterwards and he trusted me to do the job unsupervised in a part of his house, with tea and biscuits laid on. But custody had no influence on any thing once I was out. It was forgotten. Prison works in the sense of Michael Howard’s statement that while you’re locked up you’re not committing crime. But it doesn’t deter anyone. They’ve tried everything, the Victorians tried to be progressive,( compared to transportation for nicking a loaf or hanging a sheep thief) but you can’t stop crime. There were 44,000 in prison in my time, now there’s 80,000 plus. So what’s going on? It’s clearly not working. Society is sick, there’s no cure.
@@kinkyafro3150 the doctor in Armley was called Dr No...nothing.. straight rip .. methadone I was on 80 MLS ... nobody ever died of an overdose...yeah ask any Leeds lads
@@-xirx- I hope so, the fundamental issue is a problem with society. Kids without fathers score terribly on every metric from health to life time earnings, mental well being drug abuse violent etc. so that would be a good starting point, but there’s no way the woke brigade will go along . That would be an admission that feminism and no fault divorce and social security for unmarried mothers was a big failure . The prison population is double what it was in my day. Prison only stops crime while the prisoner is incarcerated but there’s no rehabilitation at all. Infact in my own experience there was no way that any of us young offenders could be rehabilitated by counselling or reason. But when I was working I wasn’t involved in crime. And then I grew up and stopped being a total twat. But we can’t just conjure up jobs for a million young people. I see no solution that doesn’t involve a cultural reconstruction. Which won’t happen. The USA is where we’re ultimately going.
It was not WWII where he got burnt, it was the anti British liberation war in Malaysia during the 1950's... if we are referring to that governor geezer with the square glasses.
You a russian troll or just thick? Crime was much worse back then. Unemployment through the roof. The specials wrote "ghost town" about how miserable life was. As the historian Dominic Sandbrook wrote about the early 80s, it was a period of "unprecedented misery".
As they used to say at school about firming plurals with words that end in y, "change the y to an i and add es". We also don't ever use apostrophes to form plurals.
It’s amazing to see the governor predicting the riot in 1980 in his own words “how long can a man be locked up for 23/24 hours a day ?” 9 years later he got the answer he must of been saying told you so
I heard the screws were all steaming drunk after lunch and it was like a night out in Leeds City centre each evening. Then again I heard how many times the screws got truly gassed each morning at slop out. It was a routine thing. Get gassed in the morning get hammered then pummeled the offenders after dinner. I got this information from the yt channel ' Tales from the Jails '.
@@BennyMcGibbon that's a load of BS Benny boy, the screws wouldn't dare beat the inmates or get drunk they would get smashed to bits by the lads. its live and let live,in there, there's obviously the odd exception dont believe all you see on YT kidda xxx
This series is priceless, thanks for putting it up. A valuable snapshot of another sort of society that is pretty much hidden from sight. To me, it's pretty clear why the riots happened. I wonder if the same kind of honest documentary was done about Wandsworth before the more recent riots there.
@@thefuturist8864 You may want to donate most of your money to giving them a great life, but it is supposed to be punishment not a reward. I expect their 'free' life was crap too.
Justice is only to be served by the poor masses. We’ve seen so many wrong doings by organisations like the BBC. SAVILLE ‘we knew nothing til he was dead’. Think about that.
Film is full of left wing nonsense. It's very simple. If you don't want to go to prison, don't commit crimes. It's called accountability, something we sadly lacked in 1980 and still lack today. Individuals need to be held accountable for their actions.
@@vtrmcs to solve the problem of criminality we need rehabilitation not punishment ...the hate factories breed contempt and beget violence frustration and status quo...90 pc of prisoners are serving dead end time for drug addiction entrenched in society by poor education abuse as children and trauma they don't know how to deal with.....punishment as spectacle is self demonising... rehabilitation is the way forward as the Scandinavian countries teach and have taught us....read the book disapline and punishment by the French philosophor michael Foucault for a more definitive answer to the question and point I have tried to raise...he is wiser and more erudite than i could hope to be.....the panopticon model of victorian prison architecture model that Jeremy Bentham devised is to instill constant presure and the feeling that 1 man can constantly watch the whole body of the prison... deliberately to create insecurities and fear among the inmates...The security is modelled around the same punishment and demoralising atmosphere as the architecture....it breeds subconscious contempt and hate ..and...no rehabilitation is ever achieved or could ever be achievable under the panopticon system...... emancipation can only be achievable under rehabilitation...a fact that is only now bring addressed today by special units and compassion and education.......the old prison system was untenable and the strangeways riots were the result and the beginning of change......this is long-winded and refers to the old model...still mostly in place ...it does not work...will never work.....and so it goes....and infinitum ...
Brilliant documentary series. Prisons seem utterly pointless. There has to be another way to deal with these damaged people. God bless the people who work in these hall holes.
I have no criminal record and decent job and got 4 days remand for wasting police time which I got bail then charge got thrown out…during those 4 days I was made to strip fully twice and some old guard just stared for ages. Prick of a guy.
Because one of the tests they didn't show is known as the cough and drop,where they grab your balls and ask you to cough .not sure why, maybe to check for a hernia.
When you are in front of the governor and the screws said you had a machine gun the governor would find you guilty of that and every prisoner knew that
Either wharehoused on the inside or pigeonholed on the outside . Do not get into the vortex of living , because of. More in spite of . The gate keepers are the ones you have to really be careful of .
Some of these blokes are proper plonkers, the one at 33:20 who tried to escape and then asked the board of visitors why his been restricted when he has visitor's and not allowed to use the gym. what a wally.
2:18 Epic Camerawork. 9:12 Paul Psycho Sykes trying to sound sane 13:33 "Aphrodisiacs in Your Garden" 27:22 "God the Stench" (Dirty Protest) 30:41 Trotter backs up the Governor. 35:45 Norman Stanley Fletcher
I reformed myself, well just grew up, spent many years in places like this, I'm 68 now and still get flash backs to what happened all those years ago, guys killing themselves, guys trying to kill each other, screws bullying everyone, but I guess since the tellies got put in its even worse as that's just another excuse to keep people in a cell all day....
had a 3 month stay here in 2007 till i was relocation to rizley. not as bad as conditions of these lads but depending on whatbwing, with different gangs somedays your french fries were like nails made of potatos rock solid and always rock cake for pudding my pad mate had double puddings
One wonders what the level of recidivism was? We all deserve second chances. How many of the prison population at Strangeways went on to lead a normal life on the outside? It would have been nice to get some stats.. An interesting study nonetheless of the penal system at that time.
I know the bloke at 1.50 folding the clothes, his name is Fred, he had a fight in a pub in Salford and potted the other dude which is why he was there. He never got into trouble again. He died a few years back of the big C.
there was actually a follow up programme to this series made around 2000 they caught up with a few of the prisoners from this series 20 years later...you can probably find it on youtube if you reseach it a bit ..can't remember the title of the programme tho
Further to my previous comment which i made 2 hours ago i have now watched this again.I must admit that i DO now find myself laughing @ what has gone on with the doctor at the medical.Needing to check his balls is one thing but to stay sitting as you put the stethoscope right up to his chest with his meat and veg just hanging there DOES now seem somewhat "SAVILLE-ESQUE!.
Dyslexia plays a massive part. Perfectly intelligent men end up frustrated and underachieving. Add childhood abuse and a meaningless life. What’s there to lose?
I am dyslexic, but never found it necessary to be a crook. The actress Susan Hampshire was one of many dyslexic stars who dealt with her problems outside of prison. Stop making excuses for lazy losers.
Those law students having a chuckle hearing that the cleaners only get 95p a week - you could see the judgement on their faces. Criminals are people too.
I think we coddle prisoners too much these days and we're way too accepting of any excuse about 'mental health'... but telling a suicidal man who's sitting in his own waste that he's being "rather silly" is something I'm very glad is left in the past. I can see why we've gone too far in the other direction. It's the lesser evil.
The age old question: what do you want from your prison system? Revenge or rehabilitation? Revenge is a short burst of satisfaction for society, but a long term headache and expense of unrehabilitated and useless men revolving in and out of prison. Rehabilitation is a long term success for society, as people leaving the system and reintegrating into society as useful members. You choose.
Food didn't look terrible. Roast spuds and gravy. The meat looked a bit strange with all that oversized marbling (fat). Must have been very low cost chuck. But have you seen the food they get in America? It's not even hot, they call it mystery sludge. Yet still the cost to house one prisoner is the same amount of money a CEO gets paid.
The medical here, which so many commentators seem to find strange, has been carried out that way since time immemorial!. joining the Forces or even the police, that's what was done!. As mentioned elsewhere it was to locate a hernia.Coughing causes bollox to "jump" slightly upward if no hernia is present.It cannot be denied however that, if an individual was so inclined, a certain sexual thrill was gauranteed.So, todays lesson....."if you don't want your bollox played with then DON'T be a squaddie/sailor/airman or copper.Most of all DON'T be a PRISON SLAG whining about prison officers/"nonce" doctors/"Bacon" inmates or "wrong 'uns"...YOU are the "wrong 'un" that's WHY you're in the nick and 99% of the population are not.. Finally, those people who say they have NEVER experienced this examination must have been prisoners more recently as the very fact that the doctor is carrying this out in front of a BBC camera and therefore the Home Office and the entire world mean that it IS indeed...standard practice. Final note.Many police officers who went through this sued for sexual assault a year or two ago.Not sure what the outcome was but obviously the coppers weren't happy about what happened to them either.
I remember in the eighties when I went to the GP surgery. Behind the main desk were these huge spiral towers full of folders and documents. The ladies ( yes ladies) would have to climb up step ladders and spin these big circular filing shelves to find your file.
the name goes back many centuries ago to the days when there was a river that ran thru that area that had a mysterious current to it that created channels of water...thats what I read ...I know the centre of manchester has several underground rivers / canals that used to be open
Quite a lot, when I spent a short spell in here,back in 73, you were only allowed a radio, Now you can have a computer system, and other non essential luxuries.
Jesus wept remembering tv me mama younger brothers on YP we only lived down the road she use to ask us to shout up at the back and ask what they need anything bringing up it was a god awful place however they grew up got good jobs had families only because they knew they were loved prison is not always the answer or solution to certain offenders
The guy on report for the chicken stew bones swearing is a wrong 'un, you can tell he'd be back in about a month after being left out because he'd chin someone in a pub for looking at him funny.
The ( interesting ? ) factoid was ... that , this prison ( ahem ? ) doctor was ( allegedly ) a bigger ( secret ) sex offender than ( some ? ) of it's inmates ( PLEASE ! comment ) ..... DAVE™🛑
The doctor In Armley was a wrong un too....strangways doctor was notorious for putting his hands inside mens arses on the pretex of curiosity.....fact.....trust me
Watching this interesting video ... made me think that this ( doctor ) was quite a bit creepy , but then diagnostic methods were probably different all those years ago , he will have retired and possibly not be alive ? @@tkoteacher1707
Brings back so many bad memories.. pleased I am totally reformed, fully employed, an Author, researcher and writer 🙏🏿
How can we read your stuff Keith? All the best to you and glad life has taken a better press on you and memories created now will sit well with you ✌
Pissed up all afternoon tormenting prisoners. Sick
Well done keith
I do research - what is your subject, mine deep politics.
You are right there of course too.@herpsmaltwatta
I found this disturbing. I was in Reading Jail about this time, another Victorian relic, and the regime is a reflection of the governor. In the time I was there there were no fights, no assaults, the screws ( all local cos it was a local jail) were all reasonable and respectful, we had some long bang up days and some days we got out and played volleyball in the yard. It was friendly and relaxed. The governor was a good natured man and ran a relaxed prison. This strangeways shit hole is a disgrace, it reflects the shitbag running it.
Hard discipline and hard routine takes more effort to enforce and causes pressure to build up as petty injustices just mount up daily As we saw in 1990 when they destroyed the place.
The punishment is the loss of liberty, not the routine that’s enforced while having the loss of liberty. I did the short sharp shock at Haslar, I did Portland as well, it doesn’t work as a deterrent. It costs much more and gives licence to officers who have a nasty streak to exercise that streak.
These places are full of the social casualties of society, ( plus some who need to be executed or locked away for ever). Mostly they suffered from childhood traumas, no father, council care homes, low intelligence low educational attainment etc. mostly they can’t be helped and eventually mostly they grow out of it and calm down into their lives of drinking, and benefits and just bumping along the bottom. I was an exception, got a good job, I even worked in one screws house afterwards and he trusted me to do the job unsupervised in a part of his house, with tea and biscuits laid on. But custody had no influence on any thing once I was out. It was forgotten. Prison works in the sense of Michael Howard’s statement that while you’re locked up you’re not committing crime. But it doesn’t deter anyone. They’ve tried everything, the Victorians tried to be progressive,( compared to transportation for nicking a loaf or hanging a sheep thief) but you can’t stop crime. There were 44,000 in prison in my time, now there’s 80,000 plus. So what’s going on? It’s clearly not working. Society is sick, there’s no cure.
Wise words
@@kinkyafro3150 the doctor in Armley was called Dr No...nothing.. straight rip .. methadone I was on 80 MLS ... nobody ever died of an overdose...yeah ask any Leeds lads
If only you could voice your opinion to someone that can make a difference and change things. Very well put 👍
@stephenmorrissey2635 lets hope this prison reform starmer's promising actually does something. 14 years is a long time to repair thou
@@-xirx- I hope so, the fundamental issue is a problem with society. Kids without fathers score terribly on every metric from health to life time earnings, mental well being drug abuse violent etc. so that would be a good starting point, but there’s no way the woke brigade will go along . That would be an admission that feminism and no fault divorce and social security for unmarried mothers was a big failure . The prison population is double what it was in my day. Prison only stops crime while the prisoner is incarcerated but there’s no rehabilitation at all. Infact in my own experience there was no way that any of us young offenders could be rehabilitated by counselling or reason. But when I was working I wasn’t involved in crime. And then I grew up and stopped being a total twat. But we can’t just conjure up jobs for a million young people. I see no solution that doesn’t involve a cultural reconstruction. Which won’t happen. The USA is where we’re ultimately going.
That governor who served as a tank commander in WW2.
I bet he saw some horrors
In another programme, it mentions he was badly burnt in a tank
@@mariamarshall3783good
It was not WWII where he got burnt, it was the anti British liberation war in Malaysia during the 1950's... if we are referring to that governor geezer with the square glasses.
Governor Norman brown He was a piss head
love it even borat was there as one of the students
How society has deteriorated in the last 44 years since this series was aired 😢
As evidenced by the meat head comments on here
You a russian troll or just thick? Crime was much worse back then. Unemployment through the roof. The specials wrote "ghost town" about how miserable life was. As the historian Dominic Sandbrook wrote about the early 80s, it was a period of "unprecedented misery".
Love these documentary's
Documentaries
@@ruperttristanblythe7512🌚
Grammar Nazi@@ruperttristanblythe7512
As they used to say at school about firming plurals with words that end in y, "change the y to an i and add es". We also don't ever use apostrophes to form plurals.
TL;DR
It’s amazing to see the governor predicting the riot in 1980 in his own words “how long can a man be locked up for 23/24 hours a day ?” 9 years later he got the answer he must of been saying told you so
I heard the screws were all steaming drunk after lunch and it was like a night out in Leeds City centre each evening. Then again I heard how many times the screws got truly gassed each morning at slop out. It was a routine thing. Get gassed in the morning get hammered then pummeled the offenders after dinner. I got this information from the yt channel ' Tales from the Jails '.
@@BennyMcGibbon that's a load of BS Benny boy, the screws wouldn't dare beat the inmates or get drunk
they would get smashed to bits by the lads. its live and let live,in there, there's obviously the odd exception
dont believe all you see on YT kidda xxx
@@bobmiller7502 Oh my god??? Your suggesting the screws at HMP Manchester didn't have a drink at lunchtime back then?
@@BennyMcGibbon having a pint and gettin pissed as applied is very different kidda..xx
@@bobmiller7502 You need to actually talk to an ex screw.
crackin' series mate thanks for uploading
If you don’t want to go to prison don’t commit a crime! That simple. Man children blaming everyone but themselves and still the same today.
Worse today, weaker men raising snowflakes
44k prisoners at that time, its now double that in the UK. The governor seems a very decent man, very very wise. Hats off to him.
No way!you cant even get out of French classes in jail😢
This series is priceless, thanks for putting it up. A valuable snapshot of another sort of society that is pretty much hidden from sight. To me, it's pretty clear why the riots happened. I wonder if the same kind of honest documentary was done about Wandsworth before the more recent riots there.
Excellent series
When they are inside the reat of us are safe from their activities.
Ok, but that only justifies removing them from society, not the specific conditions they’re kept in.
@@thefuturist8864 You may want to donate most of your money to giving them a great life, but it is supposed to be punishment not a reward. I expect their 'free' life was crap too.
I agree, too many bleeding hearts on CZcams comments, these blokes aren't in there for being nice to old ladies
Going to prison is not exacting revenge, it’s justice!
Justice is only to be served by the poor masses.
We’ve seen so many wrong doings by organisations like the BBC.
SAVILLE ‘we knew nothing til he was dead’.
Think about that.
Not always pal
Film is full of left wing nonsense. It's very simple. If you don't want to go to prison, don't commit crimes. It's called accountability, something we sadly lacked in 1980 and still lack today. Individuals need to be held accountable for their actions.
Yep..so strangely phrased wasn't it
@@vtrmcs to solve the problem of criminality we need rehabilitation not punishment ...the hate factories breed contempt and beget violence frustration and status quo...90 pc of prisoners are serving dead end time for drug addiction entrenched in society by poor education abuse as children and trauma they don't know how to deal with.....punishment as spectacle is self demonising... rehabilitation is the way forward as the Scandinavian countries teach and have taught us....read the book disapline and punishment by the French philosophor michael Foucault for a more definitive answer to the question and point I have tried to raise...he is wiser and more erudite than i could hope to be.....the panopticon model of victorian prison architecture model that Jeremy Bentham devised is to instill constant presure and the feeling that 1 man can constantly watch the whole body of the prison... deliberately to create insecurities and fear among the inmates...The security is modelled around the same punishment and demoralising atmosphere as the architecture....it breeds subconscious contempt and hate ..and...no rehabilitation is ever achieved or could ever be achievable under the panopticon system...... emancipation can only be achievable under rehabilitation...a fact that is only now bring addressed today by special units and compassion and education.......the old prison system was untenable and the strangeways riots were the result and the beginning of change......this is long-winded and refers to the old model...still mostly in place ...it does not work...will never work.....and so it goes....and infinitum ...
I wonder what happened to Trevor there, he’d be ten years older than me, 66 now. Hope he sorted himself out 1:03
Brilliant documentary series. Prisons seem utterly pointless. There has to be another way to deal with these damaged people. God bless the people who work in these hall holes.
GOD ? you imb/ecile ? WTF has your imaginary iron age ignorance got to do with anything ? In your deranged world GOD is responsible
Prisons are pointless? Glad you’re not in charge.
Glenocles short sharp lesson worked really well in changing criminals mindset .
Why did the doctor get the young lad to drop his keg’s to the floor to listen to his chest? That was wrong.
All sadists
I have no criminal record and decent job and got 4 days remand for wasting police time which I got bail then charge got thrown out…during those 4 days I was made to strip fully twice and some old guard just stared for ages. Prick of a guy.
Because one of the tests they didn't show is known as the cough and drop,where they grab your balls and ask you to cough .not sure why, maybe to check for a hernia.
Was just guna say that the offender
I think because part of the check-up is when the doctor holds the prisoner’s testicles and asks him to cough. This is to check for a hernia.
The echoing and clanging of keys ... very eerie
Every jail in Country does that
Its a Prison not a playground
Criminals moaning about prison conditions lol
Don't do the crime, don't do the time
Exactly. They make you laugh. It's always about their so called rights.
They usually don't work though, do they
there is a huge difference between going to prison and being put in a tooter chamber
@@YorkshireTea-nu3qh prisons do work as revenge. The victims of the crimes may get some satisfaction from knowing that the criminal is locked up.
@@AnthonyLauder Okay
No time for burglars.
When you are in front of the governor and the screws said you had a machine gun the governor would find you guilty of that and every prisoner knew that
That governor was impressively awake for the time
He talked a good game 😂 and then denied every prisoner he came across with short shrift.
@@David-cm4ok Can't win them all, plus he was probably right about some of them
Awesome.
TL;DR
Very interesting.
Either wharehoused on the inside or pigeonholed on the outside .
Do not get into the vortex of living , because of. More in spite of .
The gate keepers are the ones you have to really be careful of .
Some of these blokes are proper plonkers, the one at 33:20 who tried to escape and then asked the board of visitors why his been restricted when he has visitor's and not allowed to use the gym. what a wally.
They didn't have the luxury of education ok
"Pull you trousers down, are u a healthy boy" fucking hell!!!! Avoid the system, coz it hasn't changed much
2:18 Epic Camerawork.
9:12 Paul Psycho Sykes trying to sound sane
13:33 "Aphrodisiacs in Your Garden"
27:22 "God the Stench" (Dirty Protest)
30:41 Trotter backs up the Governor.
35:45 Norman Stanley Fletcher
I reformed myself, well just grew up, spent many years in places like this, I'm 68 now and still get flash backs to what happened all those years ago, guys killing themselves, guys trying to kill each other, screws bullying everyone, but I guess since the tellies got put in its even worse as that's just another excuse to keep people in a cell all day....
Would love to know more about the guy inside for 26 years
Banged up in 1953...yes it would be interesting to know.
Norman stanley fletcher...
@@bodinski100 lol
44,000 1980, 95,000 2024. More people in prison today than those in the armed forces.
Ronnie Barker Norman Stanley Fletcher at 35.40
Almost 50 years later and the same issues remain and have got worse
44 closer to 40 years
Im saying this because i was born in 1980 and im on thjs side of 40 not 50 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The doctor is a wrong un
I didn't know Mrs Merton was on the Board of Visitors.
had a 3 month stay here in 2007 till i was relocation to rizley. not as bad as conditions of these lads but depending on whatbwing, with different gangs somedays your french fries were like nails made of potatos rock solid and always rock cake for pudding my pad mate had double puddings
Disgraceful ... I can't believe how many Frenchmen we have locked up
From man to prisoner,who'd have thought it......
One wonders what the level of recidivism was? We all deserve second chances. How many of the prison population at Strangeways went on to lead a normal life on the outside? It would have been nice to get some stats.. An interesting study nonetheless of the penal system at that time.
I know the bloke at 1.50 folding the clothes, his name is Fred, he had a fight in a pub in Salford and potted the other dude which is why he was there. He never got into trouble again. He died a few years back of the big C.
there was actually a follow up programme to this series made around 2000 they caught up with a few of the prisoners from this series 20 years later...you can probably find it on youtube if you reseach it a bit ..can't remember the title of the programme tho
A school trip to strange ways. 😂
35:52 its bloody fletcher. Older ones will remember porridge
Further to my previous comment which i made 2 hours ago i have now watched this again.I must admit that i DO now find myself laughing @ what has gone on with the doctor at the medical.Needing to check his balls is one thing but to stay sitting as you put the stethoscope right up to his chest with his meat and veg just hanging there DOES now seem somewhat "SAVILLE-ESQUE!.
Foxes mints not seen for a while or the fruit
Dyslexia plays a massive part. Perfectly intelligent men end up frustrated and underachieving. Add childhood abuse and a meaningless life. What’s there to lose?
I am dyslexic, but never found it necessary to be a crook. The actress Susan Hampshire was one of many dyslexic stars who dealt with her problems outside of prison. Stop making excuses for lazy losers.
22:49 like a comedy sketch 😂😂
been there dune it brostal an recall bad place 3 in a cell
Those law students having a chuckle hearing that the cleaners only get 95p a week - you could see the judgement on their faces. Criminals are people too.
I wonder what happened to Trevor. I hope he sorted himself out & had a good life.
Doea anyone know anything qbout the guy at the 26 years in ? Whats his story?
When about whats the time stamp
@@Dogdayafternoon4325 35.47
I think we coddle prisoners too much these days and we're way too accepting of any excuse about 'mental health'... but telling a suicidal man who's sitting in his own waste that he's being "rather silly" is something I'm very glad is left in the past. I can see why we've gone too far in the other direction. It's the lesser evil.
The age old question: what do you want from your prison system? Revenge or rehabilitation?
Revenge is a short burst of satisfaction for society, but a long term headache and expense of unrehabilitated and useless men revolving in and out of prison.
Rehabilitation is a long term success for society, as people leaving the system and reintegrating into society as useful members.
You choose.
I’d put money on most prison wardens being perverts. What a fucking weird job to have.
The prisoner officers were some bunch of cowboys actually have empathy for the prisoner.
IM NOT FCUKING HAVING IT!!!!😂.
That doctor is definitely a beast , telling him to drop his trousers to check his chest wtf😅😅
Proper nonce
It's to check for hernias apparently. If they cough and balls jump up then they may have a hernia or tumour.
Doesn't reform or rehabilitate, makes you think
Really good bet it costs more a day now back then £120 a week to keep a con
Food didn't look terrible. Roast spuds and gravy. The meat looked a bit strange with all that oversized marbling (fat). Must have been very low cost chuck. But have you seen the food they get in America? It's not even hot, they call it mystery sludge. Yet still the cost to house one prisoner is the same amount of money a CEO gets paid.
The medical here, which so many commentators seem to find strange, has been carried out that way since time immemorial!. joining the Forces or even the police, that's what was done!. As mentioned elsewhere it was to locate a hernia.Coughing causes bollox to "jump" slightly upward if no hernia is present.It cannot be denied however that, if an individual was so inclined, a certain sexual thrill was gauranteed.So, todays lesson....."if you don't want your bollox played with then DON'T be a squaddie/sailor/airman or copper.Most of all DON'T be a PRISON SLAG whining about prison officers/"nonce" doctors/"Bacon" inmates or "wrong 'uns"...YOU are the "wrong 'un" that's WHY you're in the nick and 99% of the population are not.. Finally, those people who say they have NEVER experienced this examination must have been prisoners more recently as the very fact that the doctor is carrying this out in front of a BBC camera and therefore the Home Office and the entire world mean that it IS indeed...standard practice. Final note.Many police officers who went through this sued for sexual assault a year or two ago.Not sure what the outcome was but obviously the coppers weren't happy about what happened to them either.
Does anybody know anything sbout the guyat the end who was in prison for 26 years?
35:54 Fletch proper had the hump once Godber had been moved.
1.50 for wotking in the workshop. More than ma granda got valeting cars
That doctor struck me as strange
you are the type to keep your underwear on in public showers
@@P.G.Wodelouse you must be one of those deep thinkers. Give over, lad.
@@keithfarrell3370 you are the type to use the cubicle when all the urinals are free
Well .. The Social Time Bomb, Kicked Off 10 years later in 1990 !.
Look at all that paperwork on that table. It's all blowing down the streets now - it meant nothing but justifying a career off another mans misery.
I remember in the eighties when I went to the GP surgery. Behind the main desk were these huge spiral towers full of folders and documents. The ladies ( yes ladies) would have to climb up step ladders and spin these big circular filing shelves to find your file.
What a forward thinking governor for his time.
That doctor belonged in that prison as a con more so than some of the inmates! Made my skin crawl.
don't talk daft
21:19 did this guy appear on TV ever again? He looks familiar.
Geoff from Byker Grove
REAL SCREW N REAL CONS. THESE ORGANIC CONS THESE DAYS QILL NVR KNO HOW GD THEY'VE GOT IT.
Tell that to anyone that served during Covid……
Big time
Easy prison now compared to this
I remember my first time on a computer too! Left caps lock on and missed out loads of letters!
@@whatchannel3679brill 😂
Prisoner, Why is it called strangeways ?
The Dr……….
the name goes back many centuries ago to the days when there was a river that ran thru that area that had a mysterious current to it that created channels of water...thats what I read ...I know the centre of manchester has several underground rivers / canals that used to be open
Good documentary.Very sad existence
What's changed.
They have toilets and the majority are not white and more halal food is served.
Quite a lot, when I spent a short spell in here,back in 73, you were only allowed a radio, Now you can have a computer system, and other non essential luxuries.
A lot from my small experience. Conditions are a lot better in general and there is better care for those suffering from mental health issues.
"Record prison population of over 44,000" Believe its 80,000 nowadays.
Back to 44,000 soon under this government.
@@BennyMcGibbon Seems to be the plan.
Tittering at human misery
big up decca lad
Jesus wept remembering tv me mama younger brothers on YP we only lived down the road she use to ask us to shout up at the back and ask what they need anything bringing up it was a god awful place however they grew up got good jobs had families only because they knew they were loved prison is not always the answer or solution to certain offenders
The guy on report for the chicken stew bones swearing is a wrong 'un, you can tell he'd be back in about a month after being left out because he'd chin someone in a pub for looking at him funny.
35:50 thats Ronnie Barker!!!
Don’t remember Murray Fruits
Isn't it interesting that they have normalized normalizing to their society.
Listen if you keep going to prison then your obviously no good at playing cops and robbers😂😂
Where is Trevor now?he seems a swwetie
I can safely say I never went back after this sentence. Thank you for your kind words 😊
@@yorkshirecatdad3702good man
Reminds me of a young Lee Majors.
@nineteen69 Yes!!!I knew he reminded me of someone!!!spot on!!!!
9.30 mins.I am in here 24 hrs A Day. Dont be A Criminal then.Whats up with these people?
Men who have attempted suicide! The treatment is barbaric
And
if they were treated to fancy conditions, they would all be attempting suicide.
I’m locked up 23 hours a day don’t do the crime you won’t get time
And your comment is more overused than ghandis flip flops.
When the prisoner complained about not getting an open visit said " am I not being given a visit as a punishment?"
The ( interesting ? ) factoid was ... that , this prison ( ahem ? ) doctor was ( allegedly ) a bigger ( secret ) sex offender than ( some ? ) of it's inmates ( PLEASE ! comment ) ..... DAVE™🛑
Yep .
The doctor In Armley was a wrong un too....strangways doctor was notorious for putting his hands inside mens arses on the pretex of curiosity.....fact.....trust me
I bet he always talks a lot of nonce sense.
factoid hey? -ahem - does that mean you just made it up?
Watching this interesting video ... made me think that this ( doctor ) was quite a bit creepy , but then diagnostic methods were probably different all those years ago , he will have retired and possibly not be alive ? @@tkoteacher1707
*i was involved in the Strangeways Riot...the screws were beasts..worse than prisoners
I thought the real beasts were on c1.