The great equaliser - Technics SH-8058
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- čas přidán 15. 12. 2023
- This Technics graphic equaliser/spectrum analyser combo unit is ideal for my needs - but due to its age it is in need of a quick repair.
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At the beginning there was an 8-Track cartridge featuring the Best Of Anders Enger Jensen. - this is available from the Merch tab of his Bandcamp page…here: eoxstudios.bandcamp.com/merch
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Finally in the end section, while it was barely audible, I was playing another cassette from Anders Enger Jensen - this one is titled In Space and again can be found on Cassette or Vinyl here eoxstudios.bandcamp.com/merch
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I never know why people have to complain about other peoples Hi-Fi configurations because it is the owner who enjoys and listens to it and not the people complaining.
But we can all agree that my system is the best one 😎
I don't either. I don't care that people have systems that are worse than mine. That is nothing to complain about.
Exactly, I like lots of bass, so I have my bass turned up, but not everyone does, a sound system should sound as good as the person who listens to it wants it to sound
It is exactly the same as the people who complain and berate people for the type beer they drink.
@@fissionchips8840 The difference is that he isn't making any kind of universal proclamation on the "right" way to do things - he's not saying that everyone should use a graphic equaliser; he's just explaining how he uses one and why he likes to. The comments he's referring to don't say "I don't use a graphic equaliser because of XYZ", they say "you should never use a graphic equaliser because of XYZ", which is quite patronising and obnoxious. I don't use one myself, but it's no skin off my nose if someone else chooses to.
I love how Mat says «and increase the base for your Tefifone» as if that's a semi normal thing to have, like a cassette deck.
Love that last shot of your HiFi setup! Spectrum mania in all its glory.
Nice bit of equipment.
I came in to say the same thing. Such a beautiful setup, I could watch it for hours lol.
Techmoan should do a 10 hour royalty free music ASMR video of just his HIFI playing.
That kit is not cheap either, the reel-to-reel alone is four figures.
and its also 1337
It's definitely the envy of any hi-fi enthusiast. It's a gorgeous setup.
Equalizer settings are also important if you have certain types of hearing loss. I have very awful low frequency hearing, but the highest frequencies are pretty close to normal, so I tend to boost the low and keep the highs alone mostly, and I rely on EQ settings to make audiobooks clearer as well.
I am 68 years old, and I know it's true. My hearing is not as good as it was 30 years ago. In my case, the high frequencies are sometimes jarring.
Can totally agree with having major mid frequency hearing loss.
Im deaf in one ear I've never heard stereo. Still like my music though and im quite fussy with tones albeit in glorious mono. 😁
@@Mitch-Hendren Ever thought about an implant? It surely sounds strange compared to a normal working ear though
@ThatSoddingGamer I bet your neighbors like to listen to those mighty basses too :P
Techmoan at his best! Short but highly informative, entertaining, and a perfect moan at the overtly virtuous audiophiles.
Boo.
LONG but highly informative is the best!
😂
Short? No, a bit grumpy now and again, but give him an eggy sausage muffin and he perks right up.
Moaning about the type of people who believe that audio sounds better depending on the direction of a fuse fitted in a plug with AC passing through it.
@@SiaVids The same people who spend $50,000 on an amp because it has diamond traces and unobtanium transistors.
@@Dungeonseeker1uk Exactly 😁
The best audio repair guy I know he’s on CZcams mend it mark. He’s a specialist at audio repair restoration modern and old
Absolutely, the start of this video all I could think was "Mend It Mark!" He's British too! Lots of old hi-fi repairs and restorations! Surprised the connection hasn't been made!
Mark is awesome! Very positive and cheerful & not proud in anyway. Very helpful and always goes the extra mile for his clients
A fantastic video! My only complaint was reminding me that 1988 was 35 years ago, but I'll live with that!
The best audio experience is in the ear of the beholder 😉
I agree, unless you are in the professional arena, you build your system and shape your sound for you. What other people think doesn't matter, I just needs to sound awesome to your ears
*listener
About 10 years ago I worked for an AudioVideo events company; the greatest legacy of working there for me was getting me out of that purist audiophile "objectivity" mindset for good. I saw how audio engineers actually do their craft in the real world and it isn't the sort of "pristine" objectivity that "consumer audiophiles" imagine it to be. There's constant tweaking to "fit the room", "adjust to the audience", and just pure "feel on the day". This includes an enormous amount of EQ to "ring out the room" as they say, along other subjective tricks and tools. There is no purist objective sound as "it was intended" to be reproduced; it's all based on subjective feel of the day. These "consumer audiophiles" are largely imagining a fictitious Platonic ideal of "sound as it was intended" that doesn't exist in the professional and industrial world of audio.
In my experience tweaking and EQ in domestic applications can be put behind one when the system is clean, simple and right, but that mainly involves choosing for what sounds good rather then what looks good and what is common expectation (like thick cables and complex solutions to non existing problems). I have heard 1960's mono radio's with a 3 dollar DAC on bluetooth sound very nice and more enjoyable than a 3000 Euro system....it's all about the enjoyment.
Heh, I was a pro live and studio engineer for 25 years and just got done writing my own rant where I went into all of that and just now saw your comment after finishing..
All I can say is a hearty YUP. 😂
Heh, really. Your comment mirrors so many points that I hit in mine.. thanks for that, I don't feel so awkward for going off on a rant now, lol.
Cheers!
I'm a 35 year live and studio audio pro, and I'm lucky to have had it knocked out of me before I finished highschool, doing punk band "tours" using hifis as amps for front of house. I don't mind if people prefer particular things, just don't be an asshole about it, ya know? And also, there is no objective truth in audio. Everyone hears differently. Also also, all electrons are the same. I'll stop and let someone else have a turn.
What really drove it home for me was, while doing a lot of retail installs - BGM/PA systems - getting a contract to set up demo rooms for a certain boutique outfit.
The rack of equipment on display wasn't actually connected to anything. The speakers were actually being driven by some remarkably affordable, off-the-shelf components mounted on a rack concealed inside a wall. And not even the _same_ equipment at every site!
Stuff on display? 5 figures, easy. Stuff in use? Maybe $3,000. And although they had their special, large-gauge, "high-end" cable - including in-wall - we were supplied with 1,000 foot reels of bog-standard jacketed 18/2. Sometimes it was foiled, but usually it just had the 20ga bonding wire.
Those jobs were quite interesting in other ways, but the audio side was literally just "Rack it up and plug it in." No tuning or adjusting _at all._
And the customers ate it up, sadly.
@@Sgtspork Thanks for all the replies. What's interesting to me is how this kind of "platonic" mindset of an "ideal form that exists the realms" as it were, only affects a certain kind of high end consumer and no other market segment. The average consumer for products doesn't care much, and the actual professionals don't get hamstrung on it either, it's just a certain kind of middle to high ground part of the "consumer" market that gets afflicted with this kind of intellectual goop. You see this in any for of audio/video/electronics, and computing. You see it a lot in the attitudes against "emulation" not being legitimate in the computing/video game space as well, or making "inside baseball" distinctions between FPGA hardware recreation vs actual hardware vs software emulation. Also in home video, and the like.
You have the best channel on CZcams for tech junkies and retro tech junkies - I think I have seen every single video and the production value is just outstanding!
This equalizer fits perfectly into your audio setting, making it even more beautiful.
And the clock in the last shot is 13:37, that’s some elite level editing!
Seeing your Hifi setup again makes me hope that someday we get a tour of your Hifi room in it's entirety. Would love to see how it's evolved over the years as well!
Two things: #1 - Technics makes my favorite audio equipment. / #2 - YOU would be my most trusted audio analyst.
Nothing like a good rant on a Saturday before the crack of dawn! I approve Mat. Thank You
That was a very slick battery repair - using the old posts instead of risking taking it out and then adding a much better battery carrier that you can replace the battery - very nice
Finally... Techmoan is looking at something I used to own. Great stuff!
I never had one of these but i remember wanting one as a kid back in the late ‘80s. I’m so greatful that new Techmoan videos keep comming week after week- thanks for all the hard work & dedication, Matt! I always smile when i see a new video is available…
you should look into the modern low cost 4 and 6 band EQs made by SCHIIT electronics. I swear by them, nice and small little EQs you can use anywhere. Their preamps are amazing little things too and not too expensive either.
I just bought a Beomaster 1000 from a splendid young man in Preston. He's re-capped it & replaced some components. I asked him if he was a "tinkerer". "No, I'm an electrical engineer" he replied. Very heartening to find a person in their 20s who is capable & enthusiastic about these sorts of things. I can let you have his number.....
Excellent point about replacing back up batteries *before* they leak !
And they're in things you wouldn't expect - my old TIG welder had one that had spilled its guts - luckily it all came good with a scrub up to remove the gunk and solder in a new one.
Be careful *not* to short any tracks when doing so - they're normally supplied with a charge in them - more than enough to damage tracks and other components !
Many an Amiga has died for less!
@@matthewmarks6951 😁
Kudos on ending the video with your clock at 13:37, because you are LEET.
Also, I love seeing old tech being given new life, because as good as new tech is, the older tech just has a charm that new tech cannot match.
ever watched "mend it mark" right up your street..
Haha I loved that comment in the end. I'm a vinyl mastering engineer. I've cut master discs for over 20 years.... I've NEVER understood these Audiophiles. Even from a producers perspectives... Could never understand them.
A great example was an audiophile trying to explain to me how he wants to get the purist sound and blah blah blah, yet his exotic 5000 speakers sounded way to bright, his cartridge he used sounded way to soft, and completely did not sound like the source.... Guys.. Enjoy the music the way you want, we made the reference recording, you all should have fun with it.... Even if it's with Mega Bass 😂. Cheers
Absolutely love your Hi-Fi set up.
1:14 That model number has a great ending! The Technics graphic equaliser really is sex on a stick!
Great vid. Can we please get an up to date tour of your hi fi? I know it is always changing but that last shot before the credits deserves its own video!
Thanks again. Awesome work!!!
Soldering in the battery holder is a great idea and is exactly what I would have done - and in fact have done. Not only does it make future replacement of the battery easier, should this unit move on from your possession or be put in storage for a long time, the battery becomes far less of a concern vis-a-vis leakage
Listening through EQ is a night and day difference. It's something I'm never going to go without now.
You not only repaired it, you made a great improvement. I’m also a fan of graphic equalizers, I spend a lot of time in my car commuting so mobile audio is my thing, and vehicle acoustics can be quite a challenge to overcome and get things to sound how I enjoy listening to them. Keep up the great content, I always look forward to kicking off my Saturday with your video.
About the closest thing to "they can go and get f**ked" I've ever heard TM say. Right on!
Would love to see a walkthrough of your hifi setup. Which components are used, how you're routing it. Looks like an awesome setup!
Well the audio experience is in the ear of the beholder
"If it makes you happy, bring on the Megabass" ... love it
your speech at the end was truly inspirational. please continue in future vids :]
that thing is so gorgeous. i really miss this era of audio. thanks for sharing!
Changed a number of ‘memory’ batteries. Was asked ti look at a printer that ‘only printed to Legal size paper. Took off off cover and mentioned poss battery they only last 5 years. Took out the CR2032 and hmm the date of manufacture was 5 years to the day old!! Smiled and said. Told you so. New CR2032 and printer now happy to print in A sizes
It is very nice when Techmoan uploads a video.
Reminded me of a time before youtube when I used to sit with the lights off listening to music by the light of my hifi nothing as good as yours but I wish I still had it.
Really like how you just love your hifi and choices, and you're right, just do what makes you happy. A lot of audiophile gear sounds rather poorly and the listening experience could very much benefit from an EQ and the eighties had some really nice and enjoyable gear. I made, based on good advice, other choises, which are totally unfit for most people. Having 1,30m large horn speakers with 18 inch woofers on a simple system that defies all audiophile laws in the living room is something I enjoy every day. And I hope that everybody enjoys their hobby as much or even more. cheers.
I had the SH-8066 in that catalog. I really like what technics were doing in this era.
I am so happy that I got the matching equalizer for my Pioneer system. I don't use it for playing records, but it makes radio broadcast sound so much better. If it wasn't meant to be a part of my system, the engineers at Pioneer wouldn't have made it.
Great video/explanation. The tape monitor concept can confuse casual users who are frustrated by a silent Hi-Fi, then "blasted" when they finally figure it out. One of my Pioneer receivers flashes the tape monitor indicator every time inputs are switched as a reminder, but the most intuitive controls I have seen are on a Yamaha receiver with a separate "Rec Out" selector instead of tape monitor on/off. You set the input selector to tape, then the rec out selector becomes the input selector...
I've had this equalizer but I gave it to a friend because the plastic glass came loose and I couldn't get it back attached. They glued it to the middle frame with so strong adhesive that I couldn't find any glue that would keep it in place forever. Other than that it's a nice device, I still use the SH-8046 every day.
I remember getting into analog audio thanks to your videos.
That device is precious, as well as your presentation!
Techmoan is still 1337 in 2023. Love it!
8:03 "can do one" Shocking words! XD Well done there.
I personally love your random music setup, and would be more than happy to listen to music on it all day.
Great job.
Nice setup you have there. // I'm glad that you mentioned about avoiding the slider configuration when it comes to equalizers. True, true.
"They and the horse they rode in on can go and do one" - got to be one of the best lines in a YT video ever 🤣
I had the black variety of this equaliser back in the day. I loved it for the same reasons you do.
I love how Techmoan also comes up with solutions. I would never have come up with an idea like this to get around the battery problem. Thanks to videos like this, I'm getting more and more confident about doing my own repairs.
Thank you!
I love your Hi-Fi setup. It looks so cool and sounds great.
The other reason to have an EQ, is that everyones hearing is different. some dramatically.
I've got a 15 band per channel graphic EQ, it looks and feels so cheap and crappy with it's tiny slidy knobs and a power LED. But it works.
Yeah, it's like "no EQ, never! it's a heresy!"... while people tend to lose the upper part of the bandwidth over time. Listening room accoustics differ too, so do speaker systems. While I don't use an EQ myself, it's not final. Things affecting my hearing may happen over time or incidentally.
Thanks. Really enjoy your focus on home audio. Your setup is enviable.
Completely love your set up, very solid components and reminds me of much of my own gear no longer with me. This may start a search marathon.
I don't no why I get relaxed with this channel... Also, I've learn a lot
lol
The end is extremely funny.
Very good choice to add a deported battery holder. No more fear of leakeage anymore (even if this kind of batteries doesn't leak).
This one had a bit of everything. Successful repair with a helpful battery compartment. A money shot of all the items in your collection that made it to the hi-fi/living room. Examination of the dead component with the differences in chemical composition. Under 10 minutes. Great!
Thanks to your nice revisiting of the EQ line of Technics I realized I have a SH-8055 which seems to be at, or near, the top of the range. I should dig it out of my stored gear. Perhaps doing something similar to your battery replacement. Pooh on those who are anti-tone control. My unit was used to help make the best recordings of cassettes for almost a ten-year period until I moved on from cassettes When I listen to those cassettes today they sound really good. Tweaking the curve was a solid decision and the Technics turned out to be a great find as I bought used at the time. in the eighties along with an Optimus receiver that I used until just a few weeks ago for music at my shoe repair shop. It finally died by the interjection of spurious noise making it a fantastic over-achiever needing retirement. Great video as usual!
Technics equipment was always the up-line Matsushita/Panasonic/National marque in the US en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technics_(brand) . This really takes me right back to my teen years in the '80s. As a radio amateur, I'm always impressed at the build quality of these units. I remember how I and my friends were always so mesmerized by those flourescent bar graphic equalizer displays ... so much more "modern" than normal needle VU meters of the day. It was truly a glimpse into the future!
I recently fixed up an old G.E. all in one system from the same period and you should see how big the circuit boards are. 2 the size of the units foot print. This looks so much more elegant.
Love the shots of your complete 2 channel rig near the end. Very cool.
Never heard of Antony Coppens before, that music sounds great!
Thanks for the video. I have had one Technics equalizer similar to this since the 1980's. It has always worked great, flawless.
Thanks for one more interesting video
Live the way your components look together especially with all the lights and by meters
ROFL @ 08:00 "Both they and the horse they rode in on, can go and do one!" Always love your vids, and this is one of the reasons why!
The way I've always heard it was "F**k you and the horse you rode in on."
@@williamjones4483 Me too! I guess this keeps things family friendly... Even though it's worded quite strongly where Techmoan is regarded. And rightly so!
Another great video. Thank you for this channel.
I know Norwich is a long way from you and you enjoy tinkering but there is a good retro repair shop in Norwich. It features in the Retro Electro Workshop TV program.
Such a wonderful display at the end!
Technics always has a place in my teenage heart, beautiful kit, thanks Matt, awesome video, hope you're good mate 👊
That is an absolutely wonderful system you have there! I had a "cough" Realistic/ Radio Shack version of this year's ago and absolutely loved and actually miss it!
Nothing wrong with Realistic gear, so long as you understand that they had a range of models for different budgets. They made decent audio available through their large network of store locations. True audio stores were not always nearby, but Radio Shack was. Similarly there was Lafayette Radio and Olson Electronics, but they had much fewer locations.
And yes, I will admit that the lower-end models were not as spectacular from the viewpoint of an audiophile (or wanna-be)! 🙂
Same, I had a realistic from RS as well, with physical sliders and green/red meter lights. I remember my friends and I all wanted to copy Ferris Beuhler's setup...
Some of the Realistic stuff was pretty decent, in particular for the price. Most of the audio gear rotated through one month a year when it was on sale at a good discount. A lot of my old Realistic stuff from the 1980s was replaced with better gear, but to be fair most of the Realistic still worked when I got rid of it, and some of the very-expensive replacements--while fancier and much higher-end--have failed in less time.
In my home theater setup I have two first-revision "Mach One" speakers (which I sometimes rotate out with Mach Two's) which I find a bit weak on midrange, so I paired them with two nice "end of the era" Optimus speakers with the Linaeum tweeters which have good highs and great midrange but not good bass. Combine the two and I quite like the sound. It's not quite as nice as my friend's speaker set that was $3500 around 1998. But you know, the difference isn't worth $3000. I got the Mach Two's and the Optimus Pro LX5'-2s both on half-price sales.
Your absolutely right about equalization Matt!! For my HiFi I have to use an equalizer (Teac EQA-10) for the Dolby Digital and DTS as they have a habit of losing bass and mid level on my JBL speakers.They are vintage as well, and are known for their bass. And while most home theater/receiver presets are adequate, they do have room for improvement. Especially for a mix of vintage and modern audio components. If you don't like Matt's setup or demonstrations, there are a lot of other channels that specialize in the "audiophile" tastes and sensibilities. Try those and let Matt do what he does best, and thats to share his enthusiasm about his hobby with the community.
I love your setup. I would probably stare at it for a while every day. I've bought a couple components, such as the Akai equalizer that you reviewed, because of your channel. I quite enjoy your videos.
You really have a very nice HiFi-Stereo system of different compotances.
I love technics metering.
The shortest video on the wild west.
I didn't even have time to make coffee ☕😅
Fixing hi-fi. This is the kind of thing I love. ❤
Merry Christmas Matt,Your hi fi setup looks great. Thanks for all the interesting videos you give us throughout the year.
7:59 that setup 😍
Stunning setup. Truly 👌
I always learn so much from this channel- Thank you 🙏
That album by Antony Coppens is stellar, I had to grab a copy after watching this.
Always love seeing your weird spectrum plugins but this has an equalizer on it as well.
That is a truly beautiful collection of kit you have there.
As always thanks for posting the video!
What a neat piece of art!
I agree with you I always like adding a equalizer or tone controls. Listen to it the way you want to listen to it and forget those to tell you how to listen to your own music. Thanks for the good videos have a good holiday.
That's a beautiful setup 👍🏻
Nice set up! Thanks for another great video
You have the best HiFi set up i've ever seen. Very cool.
A new Techmoan video.. the weekend has started!
"Go and do one!" You tell 'em!!
I chuckled at the Leet-clock in the finishing shot 😁
Good repair! I've got the SH-8066 since the end of the 80s and it works properly tilt this day...
Man, this is a throwback for me. The first major Hi-Fi setup we had growing up was a Technics set (I think my parents bought it around 1988 or so, when I was 12 years old). Along with a record player and cassette deck, it also had a multi-disc CD changer, and I'm pretty sure that equalizer you're working on was the same one we owned. If not identical, very similar.
Impressive setup!
Long live techmoan
Not everybody's ears and audio tastes are the same - Equalize away to your heart's content!
Looks amazing.
Hello Tech moan there is a repair place not a million miles from you in Rochdale, give them a shout if you are struggling.
They are called Home Television on mellor Street.
Good Luck