Surly Krampus - 2021 model first look. Soon to be Monster Bikepacking Wagon Wheeler!
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- čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
- A quick look at my new 2021 Surly Krampus! enjoy! This is a size large in the First Loser color. I primarily got this bike to set up as a bike packing rig. I will be posting more videos as I get all the goodies installed. Thanks for watching.
I ride a Surly ECR and very happy... 2019 very cool Orange love the color ..
Yes thanks! The ECR is an awesome bike! Can not go wrong with any 29+ bike!
@@billingsfmx so i got the surly racks and decided to take them off for my winter riding and l really cannot tell the weight difference hehehe.. these bikes built solid, good choice
Very nice, on the Midnight Special myself. Surly is a quality option packed bike maker.
Hell yeah steel is real! I just got done riding the midnight special. I love the way steel frames ride. Surly goes beyond the normal and has a bike for just about anyone.
I got a great deal on a Karate Monkey and went with that instead of the Krampus. I run 29 x 2.6 and believe I can get 3.0’s with the horizontal dropouts. Then it would almost be a Krampus.
Yeah the KM is great bike! My buddy build a custom one and loves it. Id be suprized if a 29x3 cot the back. I wonder how it would ride with 2.6 put back and 3.0 up front?
Get a rack and trunk bag instead of the seat bag. Then you can have a dropper post and no waggle. That's what I did with my Karate monkey
Yes thats a good option, besides adding a bit more weight. My Dad runs that set up on his Timberjack. I havent found any minamalist rear racks I like. Ive been pretty happy with the seat bag, I dont notice much side to side movement while actually riding. Bike weighs about 70 lbs loaded up as it is. Id love to see a video of your karatemonkey set up. Its cool seeing other options!
Also did you see my Topeak Dropper post mount? That allows me to run the seat bag with the dropper. Still can only get about half the drop before the bag hits the big 29+ tire. Thats possibly where the rear rack and bag might be a better setup?
I'm building a Krampus from a frameset, and routed the rear derailleur cable on the right side of the headtube, which puts a tight bend in the cable. I see that your cable comes in from the left side of the headtube and crosses over underneath the top tube. Is that the way the cable routing came from Surly? Thanks.
The cable routing in the video is the correct. You never want a tight bend in the cables/lines. You should route the rear derailleur cable on the left side of the head tube. Route them to have a gradual bend, good handlebar movement without making them too short or too long. The Krampus is a beast! Such a fun bike! What tires are you going with?
@@billingsfmx Thanks for the reply. I already have 2 Jones LWB 29+ bikes, so this Krampus is going to have a suspension fork, and will be for terrain that's too rough for the full rigid bikes. Rekon/Ikon 2.6 front, 2.35 rear.
Sweet those are cool bikes! Im excited for your krampus! Itll be fun with the front fork.
How do you rig your three and mid mount on the fork? What kind of setup is possible whit this fork? (Thinking Bikepacking)
Check out my other videos, ai have a few showing my setup. Right now I run 2 Topeak versa cages and a surly 8 pack rack.
I'm waiting on a size L first loser frameset in mid march. If you have a scale could weigh this up? I'm curious how my budget build will compare to the stock build.
Yeah for sure! Youre going to love it! It was 33.2 lbs with pedals. I set it up tubeless and that cut 1.15lbs off the bike. So set up tubeless with pedals shes a little over 32lbs. After the rack and all my bikepacking gear I dont even want to know how much she weighs! Although it did handle the weight and ride awesome loaded up! I love me some carbon full suspension but a full ridged steelie with phat wagon wheels rides like a dream!
@@billingsfmx Awesome thanks for the info. I can't wait to get one rolling it looks super fun. I subbed your channel and I will watch literally every krampus video you put out.
Very nice! If I ride mostly groomed single and double track for no more than 3 hrs would this be a fun rig for that adventure or would you favor the Karate Monkey? The krampus just looks so good this year.
Hi thank you! The krampus and karate monkey are fairly similar bikes that can go full riged or front suspension wih dropper seat post. Biggest difference is the slight geometry changes and tire size. Both would be great options for riding groomed trails.
The Krampus is a little more stable and rolls over everything with tons of traction, and once up to speed she keeps momentum. Theres a reason all downhill racers are going 29.
The karate monkey should ride slightly more lively and jumpable, little lighter, longer reach, shorter chainstays and will get up to speed a little faster.
Although Ive never rode a karate Monkey I have rode a Salsa Timberjack with 27.5x2.8 and 27.5x3 tires and really enjoyed the ride.
After looking at the subtle nuances it boils down to rider preference and riding style, Im taller at 6.2 and my full suspension bike is a 29er. 29 is plenty playful for my riding style. 29x3 tires add even more traction, rollover, and cushion. Hard to pick a bike with out knowing more about your riding style. Cant go wrong with either bike, but wow do I love this Krampus!!!
@@billingsfmx What size Krampus are you riding again? I'm 6'4 and was told to go with the XL. I have no option to test ride, but ride a Straggler 58 (sizing down from 62, which I don't prefer)
@@JB5D Im 6.2 with a long torso and I ride a large. My inseam is about 33 34. I also ride a Large santa cruz high tower. I like slightly more flickable bikes for offroad. My surly midnight special is a 60 but I should have gone with 58. It works with a 80mm stem, few inches of seat post with the seat pushed forward. The krampus has about 22cm of seat post out for my height. Im also running 4cm of headset spacers with the stock bar. If the seat was any higher id put a riser bar on.
Do you still like it?
I have several other bikes and the Krampus is still one of my favorites! Wtb rangers in 3.0 are my tire of choice right now. They roll good and make the bike feel like less of a tank.
What rim and size, spec did you use for the tyres. Thank you 🙏
They are the stock rims and tires. The tires are 29x3 dirt wizards.the rims are wtb i40 tcs.
Thank you bro 👍
Sorry I just saw where you got it so never mind.
No worries, they were really hard to find so when I found one I snatched it up real quick!
@@billingsfmx Looks sweet!
heavy
Shes about 34lbs with the front rack and a 150mm dropper. I dont really notice the weight much. With the steel frame and 29 plus tires she rides like a dream. Its a full ridged so it does beat you up a bit if the trails get too gnarly.
@chadventureee what store did you get the Krampus ? Thanks bud!
I found it at a bikeshop called Adventuron.
@@billingsfmx is it Aventuron? by any chance you have their website link or IG or Facebook? Thanks bud!
aventuron.com/collections/all/products/surly-krampus-hardtail-29
Have the Straggler. Into it. Krampus Next! Honestly, the Straggler and Krampus could be the only two bikes I'd ever need (weight considered) The only other would be a hyperlight disposable feeling full carbon bike strictly for climbing hah But is that really practical / cost effective? (>_
Nice! I love my Midnight special for more road oriented stuff but it does great off road too. I totally recommend the Krampus! Its such a fun bike!
Nice, but I went for the Kona Unit X after all. They tweeked the geo last year to make it more modern and practical (e.g. longer headtube...). This generation of krumpy felt a bit dated after that tbh. Plus, I never cared for this particular horizontal dropouts design much.
Nice the Unit X is a cool bike! I ended up with the krampus because I really wanted to run 29x3. Ive been very happy with the geo on this bike. Roll over of the 29+ is amazing ive yet to wish for a slacker or longer frame. Its a full ridged steel bike so I only expect so much out of it. I added a 150 dropper post and that made for a more playful ride. Fully loaded up for bike packing the geo handles lots of weight and tight switchbacks. When I want to get super gnarleyand go fast I bust out the Hightower.
@@billingsfmx oh I run 29+ in the front on the Unit, which is enough for me. And I couldn't care less for the gnarl, frankly.
Sorry if I missed it but what size did you get? And what are your measurements?
Im 6ft 2 and my inseam is about 33 34. This is a size large.
@@billingsfmx Thanks! Would you say a Large would fit me? I'm 6ft and inseam 32-33. My arms are rather short though (my reach is about 10 cm/4 inches shorter than my body height)
Yeah id say youd be fine. You could always put a shorter stem on it too. Seat tube to head tube is 23.5 inches. With 70mm stem seatpost to handlebar is about 26 inches. Id compare that to bikes you already own. You could always compare to Geo charts on surlys website as well.
Actually what color is it? Looks white but its silver?
To me it looks like a light cement grey color. Ill try and post a new video of my set up this weekend.
Nice bike.. but no thru axl .
I love it such a fun bike! It does have thru axles. 15x110 up front and 12x148 out back. Does have a horizontal rear drop out but I havent had any issues with it. Im 180lbs and had er loaded down with 70lbs of bikepacking gear rides great. 29+ paired with a steel frame is smooth and rolls over everything.
Where did you buy it from? I'm looking for one in medium.
Sorry just now seeing this, I found it at an online bike shop called adventuron. Did you ever find a Krampus?
@@billingsfmx No, I never did find one. Not really looking that hard though. Are you selling yours? Sounds like were neighbors.
I really like your garage bench! Did you build it?
No, not selling it sorry. Its a super fun bike you should keep looking for one. Cool you live in junction? Thank you yes I built the bench a few years ago. I burned the wood then shellaced it.
@@billingsfmx I saw your video about the Kawasaki. I bought a new 2018 Suzuki DRZ 400 from All Terrain. All Terrain is awesome!
Gosh toss dat tektro, for commuting and casual riding it's great, but for adventure ,,, nah stopping power in wet is weak
They actually arnt that bad for single piston brakes, I was suprized. I like the lever feel better than my code r's, fast engagement like shimano. I just got back from a 3 day trip in Sedona and they stopped me just fine with a 70lb loaded bike weight. I live in the South West and dont ride wet trails so cant say how they perform in those conditions.
@@billingsfmx mmm, they do the job (slowong and eventually stopping the bike) but I'm talking about loaded bike and adventure here, trust me shimano deore level will give you much better feel and power.cheers
How much does it weigh?
Large frame With my 150mm dropper seat post and the front rack its about 34 lbs. Stock it was like 32 33lbs.
Mechanical Disk?
No these are hydraulic disc brakes. Not the most powerful but the definitely get the job done. Ive had the bike fully loaded up at around 70lbs (bikepacking weight) and it did fine on techy trails in Sedona AZ and Grand Junction Colorado. I love the lever feel. These tektros have faster engagement like shimano. My sram code Rs on my other bike stop great but have a long lever throw which I dont like.
Excellent. Was not sure. I have hydraulic breaks on my Salsa. Thank you
Right on! What salsa you riding?
El Mariachi. Classic steel hard tail. It’s a great ride. Considering the Surly Ogre as another bike.