The Black Museum Bill Waddell Documentary 1988 Complete

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  • Here's a definitive documentary about Scotland Yard's museum of criminology known as "The Black Museum" This was broadcast on ITV in 1988,and written and presented by the museums curator of the time Bill Waddell.
    The Crime Museum
    Early drawing of the Crime Museum previously known as the "Black Museum"
    The Prisoners Property Act of 1869 gave authority for police to retain certain items of prisoners' property for instructional purposes, but it was the opening of the Central Prisoners Property Store on 25th April 1874 that provided the opportunity to start a collection. The store was housed in No. 1 Great Scotland Yard, which was at the rear of the Commissioner's Office at No. 4, Whitehall Place.
    The idea of a crime museum was conceived by an Inspector Neame who had already collected together a number of items, with the intention of giving police officers practical instruction on how to detect and prevent burglary, and it is certain that by the latter part of 1874, although it was not described as such, a museum of sorts was in existence. It was later that year that the official authority was given for a proper crime museum to be opened.
    Inspector Neame, with the help of a P.C. Randall, gathered together sufficient material of both old and new cases to enable a proper museum to be opened. The actual date in 1875 when it opened is not known, but the permanent appointment of Neame and Randall to duty in the Prisoners Property Store on the 12th April suggests that the museum came into being in the latter part of that year.
    There was no official opening of the museum, and two years elapsed before we find a record of the first visitors. This was on the 6th October 1877 when the Commissioner, Sir Edmund Henderson, KCB, accompanied by the Assistant Commissioners, Lt. Col. Labolmondiere and Capt. Harris, visited with other dignitaries. By now there was a steady increase in the number viewing the displays and the first visitors book, which spans some eighteen years from 1877 to 1894, reads like a current 'Who's Who'. Certainly not all visitors were asked to sign the visitors book but, as instruction in the museum was part of CID training, the museum was in constant use.
    In 1877 the name 'Black Museum' was coined, when on the 8th April a reporter from 'The Observer' newspaper used the term after being refused a visit by Inspector Neame. However the museum is now referred to as the Crime Museum.
    In 1890 the museum moved with the Metropolitan Police Office to new premises at the other end of Whitehall, on the newly constructed Thames Embankment. The building, constructed by Norman Shaw RA, and made of granite quarried by convicts on Dartmoor, was called New Scotland Yard. A set of rooms in the basement housed the museum and, although there was no Curator as such, PC Randall was responsible for keeping the place tidy, adding to exhibits, vetting applications for visits and arranging dates for them.
    The museum was closed during both World Wars, and in 1967, with the move of the Metropolitan Police Headquarters to new premises in Victoria Street, S.W.1, the museum was housed in rooms on the second floor. In 1981 a new, redesigned museum was opened on the first floor.
    The present museum
    The present museum is in two rooms The first contains an extensive collection of weapons, all of which have been used in murders or serious assaults in London, and displays items from famous cases, generally prior to 1900, such as Jack the Ripper and 'Charlie Peace'.
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Komentáře • 102

  • @pookaflo6836
    @pookaflo6836 Před 4 lety +32

    I live for documentaries like this.

  • @ROCKINGMAN
    @ROCKINGMAN Před 4 lety +11

    Thanks for this upload. This VHS came free with 'Murdercase' Magazine late 80's early 90's. Excellent publications, sold them all in the end. Love the way Bill Waddell presents it.

  • @lburns7952
    @lburns7952 Před 4 lety +18

    I love the inspector 'Don't mess about, where is the rest of the body'. Classic polite British !

    • @cocochocs3126
      @cocochocs3126 Před 4 lety +1

      elle415 English not British

    • @kimmccabe1422
      @kimmccabe1422 Před 3 lety +2

      England has swung too far the other way and they will repetedly regret that. EX. DENNIS NEILSON-KILLS 15 YOUNG MEN BRUTALLY, DISPOSES OF THEM BRUTALLY AND ENGLAND GIVES HIM-WAIT FOR IT-25 YEARS. That is appalling. Less than 2 yrs for each young mans murder? Alert: All psychopaths go to England, Australia, or Canada to kill. Guaranteed free shelter, medical and food for a few years and then you will def be released. #Shame

    • @anniemars
      @anniemars Před 2 lety

      @@cocochocs3126 This was referring to the people, not the language.

  • @cocochocs3126
    @cocochocs3126 Před 4 lety +7

    Absolutely love the opening ripper scenes
    ... so atmospheric. Wish the whole documentary was this 🎩🎩

  • @libbyreesbarresi7459
    @libbyreesbarresi7459 Před 4 lety +6

    True story: My grandfather worked on the montrose, did a repair, and the wood that was removed and replaced he made this awesome oblong stool/seat,,,, arched legs slats on top (if that makes sense) wish i cold post a picture of it as it is a fine piece of furniture....the detail is out of this world

  • @10AntsTapDancing
    @10AntsTapDancing Před 4 lety +22

    I do love the droll and dry wit of the British from the past. I was 10 when the great train robbery happened. The drama and the mystery kept everyone enthralled for years.

  • @cazzab999
    @cazzab999 Před 8 lety +19

    Thanks for putting this clip on here. I remember this being on the TV and I recorded it on video and my TV aerial was rubbish hence so was the video recording ! I still have it though, as it was all I had. I went to the Crime exhibition at the Museum of London yesterday and many of these exhibits are on show there and I was hoping there would be a DVD of Bill Waddell and his Black Museum, but there wasn't. I'm really happy that this has been downloaded onto here. Thanks very much. :)

  • @libbyreesbarresi7459
    @libbyreesbarresi7459 Před 4 lety +5

    my grandfather was a marine engineer and worked on the Montrose,....we have a beautiful hand crafted bench style stool which was made from wood removed from the Montrose when a repair was done by my grandfather

  • @davidandrews8963
    @davidandrews8963 Před 3 lety +8

    God I miss the 80s so much I was born in 68 so was a teen into my early 20s and it was some party the storm of 87 I remember very well I moved down to Brighton got my 1st job and programmes like this were on all the time TV was much better back then who watched Saint and Greavsy? Life now is run by robots and faceless morons millennials we call them they are completely pc and very little is funny can't stand them so more of these programmes please thank you 🍀😊🏆

  • @jenniferbrewer5370
    @jenniferbrewer5370 Před 7 lety +13

    Thank you for uploading this! Great documentary, one of my faves.

  • @samking73
    @samking73 Před 9 lety +6

    Excellent Documentary. Thanks for uploading!

  • @marcjboy1
    @marcjboy1 Před 9 lety +6

    Thank you for this videocurios!!

  • @Dustydreams930
    @Dustydreams930 Před 9 lety +12

    Ive been a fan of this doc ever since it was broadcast in 1988, despite the first 15 minutes being a bit of a mess. It gets into its stride well after that. The music is superb, especially the Train Robbery section.

    • @Gary80264
      @Gary80264 Před 7 lety +3

      The Christie one is interesting.

  • @lisawilliams7836
    @lisawilliams7836 Před 4 lety +1

    Thank you very much.

  • @drangonfliepink79
    @drangonfliepink79 Před 3 lety +3

    no mention of poor little Geraldean and her mum in the christie case??

  • @mrsmith7581
    @mrsmith7581 Před 3 lety +2

    It’s annoying it isn’t open to the public 😔 Id absolutely love to visit this place.

    • @videocurios
      @videocurios  Před 3 lety +2

      there are plans to exhibit some of the items from the now closed museum in the Museum of London

    • @mrsmith7581
      @mrsmith7581 Před 3 lety +1

      videocurios I hope so 🤞🏼

  • @rahawa774
    @rahawa774 Před 4 lety +2

    I live near that old Jones Bros shop on the Holloway Rd!

  • @firthlaist218
    @firthlaist218 Před 9 lety +7

    My Dad showed around this museum ...probably too young ....yet, ALL boys love this stuff : ) )

    • @Reticence9zen924
      @Reticence9zen924 Před 9 lety +2

      Firth Laist How did you and your father get visiting permission to the museum?

    • @lewissniper123
      @lewissniper123 Před 9 lety +3

      Reticence9 You must either be a police officer or an undertaker to be invited to this museum. I myself am an undertaker and am trying to get an invitation sent out to me!

    • @firthlaist218
      @firthlaist218 Před 9 lety

      Reticence9:
      The JOB.

    • @firthlaist218
      @firthlaist218 Před 9 lety +2

      McNair:
      Makes us family then matey - I'm in the same profession.

    • @lewissniper123
      @lewissniper123 Před 9 lety +3

      Ha, funny how the world brings people together isn't it. Anyhow, nice to meet you my friend and I hope you enjoy your profession as do I. :)

  • @silrana37
    @silrana37 Před 4 lety +4

    Ugh. Why do these shows use loud melodramatic screams when talking about the Ripper? Part of his mystique was that no one heard any screams.

    • @thekitowl
      @thekitowl Před 2 lety +1

      Nor was it foggy on the nights of any of the murders.

    • @scrivener68
      @scrivener68 Před 2 lety +1

      I took the scream to be that of the person discovering the body.

  • @kimmccabe1422
    @kimmccabe1422 Před 3 lety +3

    What's strange about the Crippen case is later DNA on the buried body shows it was male. Funny how today's Scotland yard doesn't mention that huge fact. Tho i believe he got rid of his wife, it is now pathetically obvious, the body they found was not a womans

  • @dennis7511
    @dennis7511 Před 4 lety +3

    Would not the purchase of large amounts of acid piqued the curiosity of the supplier?

    • @chuckabutty888
      @chuckabutty888 Před 4 lety +3

      He was hired as an engineer for Hurstleigh Products who leased him the company storeroom on Leopold road. it would have been easy to purchase the acid as and when he wanted.

  • @sirandrelefaedelinoge
    @sirandrelefaedelinoge Před 4 lety +4

    Dismissed for interfering with women in the canteen...? That sounds a bit rapey...

    • @videocurios
      @videocurios  Před 4 lety +1

      who ?

    • @blaise6652
      @blaise6652 Před 4 lety +1

      videocurios I think it was mentioned as Christie. And I’d say it sounds VERY rapey...!

  • @videocurios
    @videocurios  Před 10 lety +1

    • @tonytafoya6217
      @tonytafoya6217 Před 4 lety

      Well then ... What?

    • @videocurios
      @videocurios  Před 4 lety +3

      @@tonytafoya6217 did I write something I can't seem to find it 😃

  • @dennis7511
    @dennis7511 Před 4 lety +2

    "Jack" had beautiful cursive handwriting showing that he was educated.

  • @nicolek4076
    @nicolek4076 Před 7 lety +3

    Ohh caught them in an anachronism. In Flannelfoot, the bike stolen has a rear mud-guard painted white - which was done in WWII during the black-out. The story is set in 1937, at least three years before the black-out.

  • @rodericksloan1255
    @rodericksloan1255 Před 6 lety +4

    Bill Posters is innocent.

    • @videocurios
      @videocurios  Před 6 lety +3

      I don't care he will still be prosecuted

  • @enjoiwhenyoucan
    @enjoiwhenyoucan Před 8 lety +10

    Wonder if Dr Crippens exhibit is still there since DNA testing claimed him innocent in 2011

    • @varanid9
      @varanid9 Před 7 lety

      How did they know his wife was dead to be looking for him?

    • @markshere100
      @markshere100 Před 5 lety +1

      What evidence of this have you, or is this just another urban myth?

    • @Ksknight100
      @Ksknight100 Před 5 lety +5

      That new DNA revelation is highly disputed and was carried out on a tiny sample that is over a century old now and by a private company using a new technique that is, as yet, unproven. Crippen's behaviour was certainly extremely suspicious; why did he flee so quickly after police questioning for eg?
      What happened to Cora? If the body wasn't her then why wasn't she ever seen or heard of again?
      That body may not have been Cora, but Crippen's actions suggest that he KNEW he was about to be arrested for murder. So he was hanged for his wife's murder even though that may have not been his wife's body? IF that "new evidence" is true, then all it means is that he murdered an unknown male as well as his wife.

  • @msthang5366
    @msthang5366 Před 2 lety +1

    Why on earth is it called “Black” Museum

    • @videocurios
      @videocurios  Před 2 lety +6

      due to the grim dark nature of its contents.

  • @ghostcasper3185
    @ghostcasper3185 Před 4 lety

    Lmmfao!!! I took a quick lookat the title of this and thought it said the black Muslim and then clicked on it.

  • @alisonsavill1179
    @alisonsavill1179 Před 4 lety +1

    She killed that man because he kicked her and she lost her baby

    • @jonldn
      @jonldn Před 3 lety

      Then why didn’t she use that as part of her defence?

  • @itkapatanka
    @itkapatanka Před 8 lety +6

    Dr. Crippen was innocent.

    • @rodericksloan1255
      @rodericksloan1255 Před 6 lety +4

      itkapatanka So was Bill Posters but they still prosecuted 😁

    • @jasonedwards7425
      @jasonedwards7425 Před 4 lety +2

      @@rodericksloan1255 check out Charles Latchmere (Aka Charles cross) there's the ripper 100%

    • @vermilliongecko
      @vermilliongecko Před 4 lety +1

      @@jasonedwards7425 Oh DO shut up. We're talking about Crippen on this thread, not JTR.

    • @jasonedwards7425
      @jasonedwards7425 Před 4 lety

      @@vermilliongecko fuck of idiot if you don't have anything good to say don't say shit let people comment and mind your own shit

    • @cocochocs3126
      @cocochocs3126 Před 4 lety +2

      Jason Edwards lechmere
      He wasn’t the ripper

  • @bobmarshall3700
    @bobmarshall3700 Před 4 lety +2

    Yet another BORING docco about Jack the Ripper!
    ENOUGH !!!!

  • @videocurios
    @videocurios  Před 10 lety