TRANSFERRING A PACKED SWARM TRAP - A DIFFERENT METHOD!
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- čas přidán 17. 08. 2021
- I have a lot of bees, so it doesn’t hurt me to do things ‘the right way’ on every hive. I am allowing this hive to expand how they’d like, and I feel like hives with large combs are always so strong and majorly populated.
I think less time is wasted by giving the queen a massive area to lay in before having to switch over to the next comb. This has me wanting to build a Layens hive for next year.
I plan to give some follow up updates of this hive over time!
Awesome young man, I'll be setting up my hives in a couple weeks. By the way you need comms for your homestead and family and friends, as in ham radios.
I'm a Texas beekeeper too. Not sure where you're at but I've subscribed. I'm kinda new to bees but I've been working with an 80 year old guy who's kept bees since age 14 and my wife's family kept bees on a small scale. I've also been watching some guys out of Louisiana as their climate is simular to mine(50 miles west of houston). It's been a bugger of a hot dry summer this year and just about all of the nectar flows have been slim to none so I'm getting a crash course in keeping bees alive right now. I'll be watching!
Thanks for the support! I am in Canyon Lake.
This is just what I’ve been looking for good on you bro thanks very much,so much to learn 👍🏵️🐝🐝
I use a couple medium frames in my brood boxes so the bees can build up the bottoms like that, they seem to really love it, I get lots of communication holes.
This was asking for problems. Not idea but personally I'd have done a cut out and reframe on the day you moved them.
Wow
Those frames would work in a Layens hive.
Great video :)
This is very interesting because all my hive are two hive stacked double-deep boxes which hold frames that are 18.5" deep. More like what you find in nature. I really like working with them longer,a and feel like the bees do as well. But the bottom bar on the deep frame are blocks for them--so my frame are all one frame and 18.5" deep.
The bees do really well with the longer combs. I do this, but with a medium or shallow underneath.
I am going to have to build a Layens hive this winter. I’m too excited for this hive and my new top bar, so it’ll have to happen.
Thank you I had the same situation and I'm going with your idea
Noted and thanks for the advice 🏵️👍🐝
Good luck with the no treatment.
Thanks so much for sharing! Any updates?
I caught a swarm in a large bucket,not in frames any advice how to make the move, in Philadelphia
Thanks
Do it quick! Swarms build fast! It’s likely full of comb. If they haven’t, dump em into a framed box
So I'm guessing checking your swarm traps before that comb gets drawn down below the frames is a good idea?
Yes lol. Usually best to not leave them any amount more than 2 weeks. Swarms have a high energy to build comb and restart a new colony, so they’ll draw it out very quickly
Not a lot of videos - but impressive.
They’re coming! I just started the channel in August which is not a good time to start showing bee work. I will be putting out many more as spring starts next year. 😊
Thanks for your support!
Why didnt you put 2 frames together? 1 on top of the other.
What’s the purpose of having all that extra space in the bottom of the trap to begin with ?
Good question. The bees prefer a cavity size of about 40 liters when hunting for a new box to live in. The “double deep” nuc swarm trap design gives the bees the cavity they want, it allows you to hang it and get it out of a tree easier, and allows you to hang traditional langstroth combs inside. Usually, they haven’t built this much by the time you retrieve them. These bees, however must have been a big swarm and they built a lot.
If you eliminated that space, you might not catch any bees.
This is my ‘I have enough bees and don’t care’ method.
😇😎
Wow so much to think about with bees!
I had some other things to talk to you about. :)
I'm curious if the area you are in is well watered or more arid? And related to that and why I ask, I ran into a guy that commented from Phoenix area that mostly it was africanized bees there that took over the area and that they don't see much that isn't africanized there.
This has me wondering if desert beekeeping, or just keeping bees where there is less water is going to be impossible without africanized genes? For reference I'm in the southwest. Many of the only areas that are cheap to live now are the areas with not a lot of water. Outside town kinds of areas, and areas that don't get much water or vegetation. I'm puzzled how to find data on this and thought I might see if you had any reply. I think your state has both water plenty and water starved areas... so I guess thats a crap shoot on if there will be a hit. But its still interesting to consider, what kinds of bees can survive in various climates.
There’s actually a very large recreational lake just a quarter mile north of me. So as far as what water the bees have access to, they have plenty! But if you’re asking as far as how much rain we get, it has its ups and downs. We’ve stayed away from drought situations for about 5 years now, and usually have good rain throughout the year. But typically if it is dry and crunchy, the bees still have plenty with the tree blooms we get around here that are use to this hot humid climate of Texas.
When you see crawling bees on the ground... I'm curious if you think some of them could be young bees pressured to forage when there's no food? I know the mainstream view is that they are deformed wing virus bees or others. But some of them don't have deformed wings. And this made me wonder if a hive has decided its deficient on a certain thing, maybe it could pressure recruitment for foragers early?
Or what do you do you think?
I know what you mean. I’ve looked at those bees and never see much of a problem with them. I also use to see this more commonly back when I started, where bees would be crawling around everywhere until they die. I don’t see much of that anymore. I think I’ve worked my unhealthy hives out of the bee yard.
I think you have good knowledge & sound reasoning. So if you were to steadily do videos constantly people would watch them. You could make it doing that. (Although I understand the timing isn't good as a lot of us just got too cold to do any bee stuff.)
@@noahriding5780 yeah I am about to do my final inspections and combining for the year, so that will be my final video for the season. It’s hard to do consistent bee videos this time of year for sure! I’m working on some projects at my house that I wanted to film but it takes so long to get them done when I am also going to work each day lol. So it takes a few weeks to get homestead projects done and haven’t found anything worth filming yet. Once spring comes though I’m hoping that gets better!
Will you do a video on combining bees sometime?
Hi Skip!
Funny you say that, I’ve already recorded some clips of some fall inspections and need to film a little more and then put the video together to post. I will be sure to show how I combine.
I got a job and had to suddenly not make many videos! I am planning to have a day off each week when spring starts so I can put out videos a bit more regularly. 😊
Are those your Africanized colonies?
Not a good idea . You cant inspect the hive. You need to be able to inspect for mites ,foulbrood and other ailments of the hive. Your taking a risk and that bottom box is gonna have some wild unworkable comb thanks for the video.
That’s what this channel is all about. Taking risk, zero treatments, natural hives. I don’t check for mites and even if they had them, I don’t do anything about it. This is a treatment free channel focusing on expansion of survival bees. If the mites took them down, I guess I don’t need those bees.
Thanks for the support though. If you keep checking out my videos, I did actually end up doing a cutout of this box because I decided I needed to make use of some of those bees for some splits. 🙂
Disaster in the making.folks don’t build these type of extra deep traps. This happens every time.
Build them to hold more frames to equal the space.