To be honest, I wish we got a fallout 4 with more cities, it just feels boring with only diamond city and goodneighbor, I wish we got Quincy, non raider libertalia, salem with a population, university point, you know. I know fallout 4 is supposed to be about establishing settlements but those minutemen settlements suck and don't function as cities like diamond city and goodneighbor do.
Yeah but bethesda prefers the world to be post apocalyptic rather than post post apocalyptic so they’ll keep cities, nations and tribes as small or non existent as possible
When you look at it, the Gunners and Raiders own a huge part of the map, i which there was actually an impact on the game for clearing their territories or seeing both factions fighting since they cover most of the map. Im also disappointed that Preston didn't ask the Sole Surv to reclaim Quincy, would have been cool to establish a town there.
@@lambups ye but its not as nice since you cant rebuild it you kill them raise a flag and thats it you can go back and gunners will spawn outside to attack but you cant do anything.
it being a major 'reward' quest you get after doing smth like getting max happiness in *x* amount of settlements would've been really cool with competing it coming with an already well-built up settlement
Great map! I just realized, that there is a truck with a Minutemen label on it by the Charles river in between Greygarden and the water treatment plant. If the Minutemen fought in the battle of Charles river, then that's probably an old supply cash for Minutemen forces during the battle. And thus the battle was probably within the area around Oberland station.
I think the worst part about Fallout 4's world lore is that the Gunners are just a basic Raider Gang and that Raider gangs got like 50% of Fallout 4's map without backstory.... They could have made something like the Great Khans were in NV. Instead they made a silly Gang only to have another antagonist Raider Gang to kill without thinking.... The game didnt even gave me a dialogue or a simple quest after I visited Quincy and killed the guys who are responsible for the Minuteman betrayal (even with Preston). Imagine they added a questline to that stroryline.. it would have made the Minuteman along with the Gunners and Quincy so much more important and the Minuteman would have gotten a soul if there would be an actual questline dedicated to the Story of the Minuteman
@@yonblek4542 I love Fallout 4, but yeah.... Fallout 4 has some problems. And 76 is a mess. I hope they learn from the old games. The tv show seems pretty lore accurate so far (if you ignore the Shady Sands part) So the next Fallout game might be a good one. And it seems like they look back to the lore of older Fallout games with the show in particular. That was a thing they kind of refused to in some way, u know. Bethesda just wanted to do their own thing. Maybe they started to respect Fallout's lore. But I wont hope to much for now....
cool video! the dialogue bits are a nice touch. many settlements missing though - country crossing, sunshine tidings, etc. etc. at least 5 missing, probably more. preston sends me everywhere :-/
Wow, amazing video! I'd love to see more of these for other Fallout's and perhaps other similar games. You deserve tons more subs, keep up the great work!
Awesome work and attention to detail man! Whatever you think of the actual main story of Fallout 4, I think Bethesda did a good job at creating a world with some very interesting history for you to step into. And you did a good job filling in the blanks like showing the Battle of Charles River as the Minutemen and Mass State teaming up to wipe out the raiders
I heard i nice though at some old comment under some old fallout 4 machinima: " fallout 4 storyline is not bad, it's just obsidian were such a good story writers that Bethesda couldn't follow people expectations "
This is really great. It is missing the newer lore regarsing the Enclaves operations, and there's also thr Winter War in which the CoA would have gained some territories and there were a few other towns, but still very cool!
What were the locations of the different army remnants shown in the beginning? I know SSGT. Daley in Concord, the Vertibird crash, and the South Boston Checkpoint.
Yes, I feel that Nate would have befriended the minutemen because they were the first people he met in the nuclear apocalypse and Preston Garvey is nice in tell in I realize that the 5000 settlement quest he sent me on has no point😢
Without the institute, the minutemen would be able to expand their territory. The super mutants would be soon destroyed and I think most of the raiders would join farms at a point, because being a raider wouldn't stay worth it. The main issue would be gunners, especially in the south/south west. We can imagine two separate countries if minutemen nor BoS don’t beat them
@@Yannis1a No particular reason. 2240 marked a definitive decline in power for the Minutemen, and there's not really anything that indicates when the Gunners rose to power. So I decided on 20 years as being enough time for people in the Commonwealth to view the Gunners as being the force needed to bring order to the wasteland rather than the Minutemen. Most of this video is guesswork, especially Mass State.
@@patekor2064 Tank you, that make sense, I'm asking because I want to make a TTRPG campaing set years before Fallout 4 and I really liked your map as a guide
@@zwerg0708-_- Mass State is another name given to a faction that was based out of University Point that is only mentioned by Deacon and Nick Valentine. I made it bigger than University Point to show that it had a bigger presence in the years before the Minutemen's decline. The time period that it exists in (including the Battle of Charles River), is complete guesswork based on what I think is most reasonable given the established timeline.
@@jdools4744 ...That's so laughably ignorant I don't know what to say. Do not know the literal namesake of Fallout? It'd take centuries in real life for it to even be somewhat habitable
@@pgbrofficialyoutube349 For your own dignity, please do at least a brief check of scientific facts before writing such a stupid answer. A little hint: Hiroshima has a population of 1 million nowadays
@@magicduke8386 that makes me sad that it’s not canon,maybe the Enclave is in the southern or northern regions of America,maybe we will see them again one day.
@@AmericanLover1865 I don't know, I'm getting tired of the genocidal maniacs. They're in Fallout 2, Fallout 3, Fallout 76, and a little in New Vegas. Time to put them to rest.
God so boring. 200 years and this is all you see, meanwhile the west coast had actual nation states rising from the ruins. Best the east could do was a baseball stadium being a community
It’s literally spelled out for you in the game, it’s because the Institute sabotaged the CPG and has kept the surface war torn through the use of Super Mutants
Its canon that the East Coast was hit a whole lot harder than the West Coast was. The East Coast is still a radioactive hellhole even two centuries where as on the west a lot of the damage (at least outside the big cities) was from the passage of time rather than nukes. Farmers on the East Coast are barely able to grow enough crops in the radioactive soil to feed themselves let alone enough to spur the establishment of a nation. (New Vegas and the Mojave area was hit with only a few nukes thanks to House's defense system. So all the damage you see if from the passage of time or from human action in the two centuries since.) (Also remember the NCR took a long while to get to the point we see in New Vegas and the Legion is less than four decades old and is effectively a very large raider gang.)
@@xdguy2569 it does indeed and it probably is but there was a Vanity Fair article before the show was released that called it the Caswennan which means there’s a possibility that it’s not the Prydwen. (You can only read the name by freezing and zooming, so it’s not something that was supposed to be visible to the casual viewer)
To be honest, I wish we got a fallout 4 with more cities, it just feels boring with only diamond city and goodneighbor, I wish we got Quincy, non raider libertalia, salem with a population, university point, you know. I know fallout 4 is supposed to be about establishing settlements but those minutemen settlements suck and don't function as cities like diamond city and goodneighbor do.
Yeah but bethesda prefers the world to be post apocalyptic rather than post post apocalyptic so they’ll keep cities, nations and tribes as small or non existent as possible
@@ddunfuh9239 Fallout 3 and NV had a decent amount of cities, definitely more than just 2
@@ddunfuh9239 Basically they create pretty shit rpgs
@@dynominerx NV was made by Obsidian. Fallout 1 and 2 by Interplay and Black Isle respectively
@@javierduenasjimenez7930 I also mentioned fallout 3…
When you look at it, the Gunners and Raiders own a huge part of the map, i which there was actually an impact on the game for clearing their territories or seeing both factions fighting since they cover most of the map.
Im also disappointed that Preston didn't ask the Sole Surv to reclaim Quincy, would have been cool to establish a town there.
you can reclaim quincy with creation club content i'm pretty sure
@@lambups ye but its not as nice since you cant rebuild it you kill them raise a flag and thats it you can go back and gunners will spawn outside to attack but you cant do anything.
it being a major 'reward' quest you get after doing smth like getting max happiness in *x* amount of settlements would've been really cool with competing it coming with an already well-built up settlement
Great map!
I just realized, that there is a truck with a Minutemen label on it by the Charles river in between Greygarden and the water treatment plant. If the Minutemen fought in the battle of Charles river, then that's probably an old supply cash for Minutemen forces during the battle. And thus the battle was probably within the area around Oberland station.
I think the worst part about Fallout 4's world lore is that the Gunners are just a basic Raider Gang and that Raider gangs got like 50% of Fallout 4's map without backstory.... They could have made something like the Great Khans were in NV. Instead they made a silly Gang only to have another antagonist Raider Gang to kill without thinking.... The game didnt even gave me a dialogue or a simple quest after I visited Quincy and killed the guys who are responsible for the Minuteman betrayal (even with Preston). Imagine they added a questline to that stroryline.. it would have made the Minuteman along with the Gunners and Quincy so much more important and the Minuteman would have gotten a soul if there would be an actual questline dedicated to the Story of the Minuteman
Yeah the games hollow. An ocean of almost nothing.
@@yonblek4542 I love Fallout 4, but yeah.... Fallout 4 has some problems. And 76 is a mess. I hope they learn from the old games. The tv show seems pretty lore accurate so far (if you ignore the Shady Sands part)
So the next Fallout game might be a good one. And it seems like they look back to the lore of older Fallout games with the show in particular. That was a thing they kind of refused to in some way, u know. Bethesda just wanted to do their own thing. Maybe they started to respect Fallout's lore. But I wont hope to much for now....
Fantastic loved the lil snips of character dialog
Raiders came closer to uniting the Commonwealth than any civilisation after the war
cool video!
the dialogue bits are a nice touch.
many settlements missing though - country crossing, sunshine tidings, etc. etc. at least 5 missing, probably more. preston sends me everywhere :-/
This is probably one of the coolest fallout related vids i've seen, mostly bcs I like mapping as well. great job
Wow, amazing video! I'd love to see more of these for other Fallout's and perhaps other similar games. You deserve tons more subs, keep up the great work!
Hell yeah minutemen ending
Awesome work and attention to detail man! Whatever you think of the actual main story of Fallout 4, I think Bethesda did a good job at creating a world with some very interesting history for you to step into. And you did a good job filling in the blanks like showing the Battle of Charles River as the Minutemen and Mass State teaming up to wipe out the raiders
I heard i nice though at some old comment under some old fallout 4 machinima: " fallout 4 storyline is not bad, it's just obsidian were such a good story writers that Bethesda couldn't follow people expectations "
Great video mate
very good work
This is really great. It is missing the newer lore regarsing the Enclaves operations, and there's also thr Winter War in which the CoA would have gained some territories and there were a few other towns, but still very cool!
ALL HAIL THE MINUTEMEN
It'd missing a few persistence events and factions are not fully mapped, but very good
What were the locations of the different army remnants shown in the beginning? I know SSGT. Daley in Concord, the Vertibird crash, and the South Boston Checkpoint.
Yes, I feel that Nate would have befriended the minutemen because they were the first people he met in the nuclear apocalypse and Preston Garvey is nice in tell in I realize that the 5000 settlement quest he sent me on has no point😢
Without the institute, the minutemen would be able to expand their territory. The super mutants would be soon destroyed and I think most of the raiders would join farms at a point, because being a raider wouldn't stay worth it.
The main issue would be gunners, especially in the south/south west. We can imagine two separate countries if minutemen nor BoS don’t beat them
Awesome fr
Vey cool Man. What’s the Mass state meant to be? The CPG?
University point but bigger I think
I love minutemen
Great video, but is there a reason you chose 2260 as the moment for the Gunners to appear?
@@Yannis1a No particular reason. 2240 marked a definitive decline in power for the Minutemen, and there's not really anything that indicates when the Gunners rose to power. So I decided on 20 years as being enough time for people in the Commonwealth to view the Gunners as being the force needed to bring order to the wasteland rather than the Minutemen.
Most of this video is guesswork, especially Mass State.
@@patekor2064 Tank you, that make sense, I'm asking because I want to make a TTRPG campaing set years before Fallout 4 and I really liked your map as a guide
I have been looking for a fallout 4 map like this for years. Name your price, I would like to purchase a copy so I can roleplay in fallout 4 again
Enclave ?
Make the same with another fallouts games please!
Whats the "Mass State"?
@@zwerg0708-_- Mass State is another name given to a faction that was based out of University Point that is only mentioned by Deacon and Nick Valentine. I made it bigger than University Point to show that it had a bigger presence in the years before the Minutemen's decline. The time period that it exists in (including the Battle of Charles River), is complete guesswork based on what I think is most reasonable given the established timeline.
@@patekor2064 wow! That sounds very interesting!
Wow 200 years of absolutely nothing happening bravo Bethesda peak fiction
It's almost like it's a nuclear apocalypse and people can barely maintain a single settlement.
@@pgbrofficialyoutube349 The nuclear apocalypse ended in 2077 and Fallout is about everything that happens afterwards tourist
@@jdools4744 ...That's so laughably ignorant I don't know what to say. Do not know the literal namesake of Fallout? It'd take centuries in real life for it to even be somewhat habitable
@@pgbrofficialyoutube349 How can you miss the point this hard? Bethesda fans were a mistake 💀
@@pgbrofficialyoutube349
For your own dignity, please do at least a brief check of scientific facts before writing such a stupid answer. A little hint: Hiroshima has a population of 1 million nowadays
Where’s the Enclave?
The Enclave wasnt in Fallout 4 sadly.
@@Bacon94635 technically in the new next gen update,which I think was announced canon
@@AmericanLover1865 No, that's a creation club addition. They are not in Fallout 4 proper, as they have been wiped out.
@@magicduke8386 that makes me sad that it’s not canon,maybe the Enclave is in the southern or northern regions of America,maybe we will see them again one day.
@@AmericanLover1865 I don't know, I'm getting tired of the genocidal maniacs. They're in Fallout 2, Fallout 3, Fallout 76, and a little in New Vegas. Time to put them to rest.
God so boring. 200 years and this is all you see, meanwhile the west coast had actual nation states rising from the ruins. Best the east could do was a baseball stadium being a community
Bethesda being lazy ass designers and story writers, i don't expect anything good from Bethesda at this point.
It’s literally spelled out for you in the game, it’s because the Institute sabotaged the CPG and has kept the surface war torn through the use of Super Mutants
Its canon that the East Coast was hit a whole lot harder than the West Coast was. The East Coast is still a radioactive hellhole even two centuries where as on the west a lot of the damage (at least outside the big cities) was from the passage of time rather than nukes. Farmers on the East Coast are barely able to grow enough crops in the radioactive soil to feed themselves let alone enough to spur the establishment of a nation.
(New Vegas and the Mojave area was hit with only a few nukes thanks to House's defense system. So all the damage you see if from the passage of time or from human action in the two centuries since.)
(Also remember the NCR took a long while to get to the point we see in New Vegas and the Legion is less than four decades old and is effectively a very large raider gang.)
@@Vaultboy-ke2jj im confused was it the Institute, The Enclave, or that vault that created FEWV/Supermutants?
@@jaybazza248 if you’re talking about Fallout 4, it’s the Institute
Uhhh except the canon ending of Fallout 4 is the brotherhood winning.
Says who?
Unless the pridwen was rename before going back from commonwealth, it's undecided.
@@AndroidNoir-L06k we don’t know if it’s the Prydwen or not for sure
@@Vaultboy-ke2jj the ship does say the prydwen on the side but that only means it wasn't the institute or railroad endings
@@xdguy2569 it does indeed and it probably is but there was a Vanity Fair article before the show was released that called it the Caswennan which means there’s a possibility that it’s not the Prydwen. (You can only read the name by freezing and zooming, so it’s not something that was supposed to be visible to the casual viewer)