It's a warning that fire service mode is active. If there was an annunciator, it would say, "Fire service mode is activated. Please exit the elevator when the doors open."
0:08 Elevator fire service recalled is on, nudge mode! 0:17 Nudge Mode Recalled like Otis Elevator 0:21 the Firemen Hat is disappear after Elevator is recalled. 2:41 Bypass to turn off with buzzer. 2:43 Going up chime.
Can you do another fire service on this elevator? If you do, can you put it into fire service, take it up to another floor and turn the key to have it recall when you're inside it?
The buzzer, the arrow and the bells are turned off to save energy. Also, you can tell the elevator is operating because of the motor. All safety sensors except for the door bumper are also deactivated. Lastly, they want to save as much energy as possible to make as many trips and save as many people as they possibly can.
I’ve taken a course on elevator emergency operations when I was in college for my Network administrator certification. I also learned this procedure in high school during training for my internship because it was a mandatory training otherwise I would of been disqualified. Also when I got the job with the port authority of New York and New Jersey I also had to take this course. Because the Air Train at JFK airport has a fire recall system. If there was a fire the train would return to Jamaica station until I put the train into fire service and manually take control over it
"Floor six has nothing, floor seven is a archive office and it is alarmed. Floor eight is a boardroom. " Oh well, nothing really amazing then. Thank you anyway for the answer.
That is the long buzz I would hear if this thing were in nudge mode. The operation of it being in fire service is kinda interesting but I am not going to activate fire service on an elevator because it is illegal but it looks like you had permission because you said it was a brand new Thyssenkrupp elevator.
Floor 4 is not locked it just has a space next to the button for a keyhole. 6 is a empty floor, 7 is a special archives floor and 8 is a meeting room floor.
Dover/TK elevators are the only ones where the fire hat doesn't stay lit after the elevator hits the ground floor and the doors open. On some newer ones, depending on how the light is interfaced with the fire alarm system, it will stay on or even flash, but on this common series of elevators, I think the light should stay on to indicate it's in fire recall mode.
Baytrail is correct. Also when the fire service is activated, the buzzer sounds inside the car and the elevator stops wherever it is at and returns to the first floor.
@msj191961 What your dad said would make sense. In some cases, when the fire alarm goes off the elevators will return to the nearest floor or the lobby automatically. In that case they would be tied in to the fire panel. Ours are not though. As far as the key, I have seen them on Ebay a time or two. Other than that I would not have a clue. Mine came with my job.
That I am unsure of. My guess would be that the buzzer and the floor call bells are wired the same and maybe they would not want others to hear that the elevator is operational as they may try to use it. That is just a pure guess though.
@msj191961 Ours do not. I dont think they would anywhere. It is strictly for if the fire dept arrived and wanted control. I would not think that it would set off any building alarm.
No this key does not work in that switch so I really do not know the answer to that. I believe we have a dover elevator that has a physical stop switch and the fire service. I will go and try that as well.
If the elevator were to not permit access to the locked floors in the fire service mode then people on those floors couldn't be rescued and those people would be incinerated.
So far, all of these travel to the nearest floor without the doors opening and return to the lobby. I dont know about other companies though. Good question!
@neaelevator My dad is an enginner and says in his building, if someone puts the elevator into fire service, it puts a trouble on the fire alarm panel therefore calling the fire department. He said it is different in every building. Do you know where I can get an original Dover H2389 fire key? I can't find one anywhere.
On the Dovers, even the safety edge is decativated. You had better be out of the way of the door cause it will keep closing if the button is being held.
This is one of my favorite elevator videos. This inspired me to start my elevator key collection, this key being one of my first keys ever!
7 is a floor with nothing but offices for the Archive Dept. Floor six is used for storage. Floor 8 has the Presidential Meeting rooms.
Can u do a retake of this elevator?
It's a warning that fire service mode is active. If there was an annunciator, it would say, "Fire service mode is activated. Please exit the elevator when the doors open."
Would fire service call the fire dept/ set off the fire alarm system if I did that?
0:08 Elevator fire service recalled is on, nudge mode!
0:17 Nudge Mode Recalled like Otis Elevator
0:21 the Firemen Hat is disappear after Elevator is recalled.
2:41 Bypass to turn off with buzzer.
2:43 Going up chime.
Is this elevator a traction or HIGHdraulic?
Thyssenkrupp bought Dover Elevators in the late 1990's. Thyssenkrupp continued using the same fixtures from the previous Dovers for several years.
Can you do another fire service on this elevator? If you do, can you put it into fire service, take it up to another floor and turn the key to have it recall when you're inside it?
Floor six has nothing, floor seven is a archive office and it is alarmed. Floor eight is a boardroom.
The buzzer, the arrow and the bells are turned off to save energy. Also, you can tell the elevator is operating because of the motor. All safety sensors except for the door bumper are also deactivated. Lastly, they want to save as much energy as possible to make as many trips and save as many people as they possibly can.
I’ve taken a course on elevator emergency operations when I was in college for my Network administrator certification. I also learned this procedure in high school during training for my internship because it was a mandatory training otherwise I would of been disqualified. Also when I got the job with the port authority of New York and New Jersey I also had to take this course. Because the Air Train at JFK airport has a fire recall system. If there was a fire the train would return to Jamaica station until I put the train into fire service and manually take control over it
"Floor six has nothing, floor seven is a archive office and it is alarmed. Floor eight is a boardroom. "
Oh well, nothing really amazing then. Thank you anyway for the answer.
That is the long buzz I would hear if this thing were in nudge mode. The operation of it being in fire service is kinda interesting but I am not going to activate fire service on an elevator because it is illegal but it looks like you had permission because you said it was a brand new Thyssenkrupp elevator.
Yes you are correct. As I work in safety, I have keys and can run test on fire service to make sure they are working correctly.
@@neaelevator that’s good that you have a certification to do these type things.
This elevator is cruising fast for 8 levels
Floor 4 is not locked it just has a space next to the button for a keyhole. 6 is a empty floor, 7 is a special archives floor and 8 is a meeting room floor.
Dover/TK elevators are the only ones where the fire hat doesn't stay lit after the elevator hits the ground floor and the doors open. On some newer ones, depending on how the light is interfaced with the fire alarm system, it will stay on or even flash, but on this common series of elevators, I think the light should stay on to indicate it's in fire recall mode.
Geez! The buzzer is so loud that you could hear it when the elevator was on the upper floor!
Baytrail is correct. Also when the fire service is activated, the buzzer sounds inside the car and the elevator stops wherever it is at and returns to the first floor.
@msj191961 What your dad said would make sense. In some cases, when the fire alarm goes off the elevators will return to the nearest floor or the lobby automatically. In that case they would be tied in to the fire panel. Ours are not though. As far as the key, I have seen them on Ebay a time or two. Other than that I would not have a clue. Mine came with my job.
That I am unsure of. My guess would be that the buzzer and the floor call bells are wired the same and maybe they would not want others to hear that the elevator is operational as they may try to use it. That is just a pure guess though.
@msj191961 Ours do not. I dont think they would anywhere. It is strictly for if the fire dept arrived and wanted control. I would not think that it would set off any building alarm.
The reason why locked floors go unlocked is because the firefighter needs access to those floors to rescue those people.
The bumper is not active but the door safety edge is active.
How would this operate in "Elevator Emergency Power" mode? All I know is that when it happens, it recalls to the main floor and opens its doors.
Honestly I am unsure. That would be fun to find out.
In the elevator key box or in the manager's office. Occasionally at the police and firemen stations.
No this key does not work in that switch so I really do not know the answer to that. I believe we have a dover elevator that has a physical stop switch and the fire service. I will go and try that as well.
@ZombyZac Not sure. Most all fire services with most all companies requre this. Not sure why.
If the elevator were to not permit access to the locked floors in the fire service mode then people on those floors couldn't be rescued and those people would be incinerated.
Why are some of those floors locked, anyway?
So far, all of these travel to the nearest floor without the doors opening and return to the lobby. I dont know about other companies though. Good question!
Or when there is fire alarm system test and the elevators must work uninterruptedly.
@neaelevator My dad is an enginner and says in his building, if someone puts the elevator into fire service, it puts a trouble on the fire alarm panel therefore calling the fire department. He said it is different in every building. Do you know where I can get an original Dover H2389 fire key? I can't find one anywhere.
@msj191961 I will try to on my next round but it may be a while before I can.
@neaelevator You can find them often on ebay for real cheap. I have every key used for a Dover elevator & multiple copies of each.
On the Dovers, even the safety edge is decativated. You had better be out of the way of the door cause it will keep closing if the button is being held.
@msj191961 This is a traction.
I know floors 6 7 and 8 were locked off restricted why does fire service work on restricted floors I thought you can’t unless you unlock the floor
That is a great question. Fire code requires that fire service override all locked out floors in case there is an emergency on those floors.
Do this. For closing, wait a second after closure or until the motor sounds up. For opening, wait a second after opening.
Could you please do a retake of this video and go to level 6. I want to see what level 6 looks like.
Does the elevator seriously play music when the door opens on 8?
@neaelevator That is the H2389 Dover key.
That is so cool!
Wow! The buzz when you recalled the elevator was so annoying. Not to be rude. But it was so loud.
The arrow turns off in fire service mode.
How do you have a fire mode key? Are you a fireman or do you work for ThyssenKrupp?
I work for maintenance and have to respond to any emergencies with the Police/Fire/EMS
Sounds like otis nudge mode
Just the newer Dovers and all TK elevators.
Thank you.
That would be nice. Nope it was just my cell phone.
I will try to get that to you this week.
@aa9g1 Yep that is how I got mine for our Innovation fixtures.
The arrow is turned off.
What building is this
The Library on our campus.
@elevatorgeek1234 I wish I had all keys available but I only have the one fire service key.
Why do you have to turn it to “Bypass” then “Off?”
ZombyZac that is how you reset the elevator bypass resets the elevator
It’s to reset the smoke detectors and heat detectors. But not the entire fire alarm system.
I work with fire and ems so I have one.
Yes with a key.
Where do you get a key. please send me a link ASAP
Check on eBay its called a Dover H2389 key.
+TheElevator&AlarmGeek☺ I have that one! ThyssenKrupp Elevator labeled it DH2389 for some reason, but it's the same key. :)
How u can get that keys
My work supplied them for me. I have seen them on Ebay though.
It says 2 is the main floor, but the key is on 1! Makes no sense!