@@mangodip2170I feel like knowing a little less about what he was capable of and only hearing about it from “word of mouth” or seeing glimpses, actually did a better job of making his character more intriguing and intimidating. Still love the new alastor, but he definitely could’ve taken a page or two out of the old one’s book.
@@MrMelonsz while there were definitely points where his powers were showcased a bit much, or just felt off (namely giant alastor in Dad Beats Dad), there's only so many times you can do word of mouth and implications before it becomes hot air. Yes its intriguing and intimidating, but it reaches a point of "ok, but can he ACTUALLY do anything or is he just creepypasta sound effects". As it is there still seems to be a fair amount of his power we're yet to see, as well as the implication his deal is stunting his power, so we'll see how it goes
@@MrMelonsz i do agree, i wish they kept it more subtle instead ot adding 73 shots an episode of him looking sinnister and stuff. i feel like it would make him seem more scary with adding an air of mystery and making the viewers wonder the extent of his capabilities
Because it was the ORIGINAL also the art style was different had more emotion regardless of the dusty it was made though the heart and dedication. The other was made for steaming still good though
@@shazaz1059 I preferred it. It made it much more noticeable when the radio effect drops from his voice. I can't really hear if/when that happens in the show.
the tap dance sound made no sense when he was just walking around. sometimes he was even walking on carpet and it still made it. so in my opinion its better now.
Alastor saying “fuck you” is unexpectedly hilarious because you don’t expect him to swear, because he seems to be above it but as it turned out, in the pilot Alastor never swore but in episode 5 when meeting Lucifer he just goes down to his level literally and metaphorically just to insult him.
Al's so reserved when it comes to swearing. He's only muttered a few curses about Vox under his breath in "A day in the afterlife" comic, and that was when he was alone. I think the only reason he said "F*ck you" to Lucifer was because he's the king of Hell. If it were anyone else he probably would've foregone swearing and just tear them apart.
@@TeeHeeTwinkleToesit’s not out of character at all, IMO. He knows that he can’t touch the king of hell so this is all he can get away with to express his anger.
I missed the random radio sounds that accompanied alastor in the pilot all the time. The random sound effects in the pilot sound out of place in certain scenes but the ones played around alastor sound natural. Because well he’s the radio demon
well this is the thing I can definetly see where you are coming from but listening to the pilot and the current show, I think they made the right choice toning the sound effects down a little because I can barely even hear Al's actual voice in the pilot but in the current episode you can actually hear his voice a lot more clearly
things i miss: the way his filter fades out every now and then the radio noises that seemed to follow him (frequency scrolling, bass overload, snippets of actual radio stations) things i like: a presonality that fits his archetype way better being less giddy and more sarcastic being shown his demon form in more natural ways (it feels less forced) his role in the hotel is much more present
His filter still fades out sometimes. In Episode 5, he asks Husk "What is it?" without the filter, implying the filter may be something he can turn on/off. He still does have radio noises that follow him, it's just been turned down a bunch. His role in the hotel is still very present, he's literally the one keeping the hotel afloat. Personally, I like both versions of Alastor.
Old Alastor felt a lot more conniving, jokey and patronising while the new Alastor is a lot more outwardly hostile, with a shorter temper and way more demeaning. This could stem from him apparently being on a rougher spot than he was in the pilot, someone's fucking with him and he's clearly on edge because of it.
You're not wrong. Series Alastor fits a lot better with what the series is doing, between its portrayals of abusers and faster pace. Pilot!Alastor would have needed room to breathe and build up that the format doesn't allow--Series!Alastor is hostile and demeaning, and when he hits hard it keeps the plot going. Also, while Pilot!Alastor had enough affability and charm to sneak into a found family dynamic early on (jambalaya, anyone?), I can almost see Series!Alastor getting more at ease with the cast, getting into a better spot, and easing into something closer to his pilot characterization. Assuming that the series theme of redemption extends to "ruining the villain" or "I can fix him" vibes, anyway.
@@darthrevan4933 I kinda prefer the old Alastor in that aspect. The new one I feel "shows off" too much. It feels like he is *trying* to be intimidating. The old one felt not only powerful, but powerful enough that he didn't feel the need to demonstrate his power. This let your imagination run wild with what he would be capable of. I also wish he had at least one good, dominant fight before his near defeat by Addam.
@@CommentPositionInformer I kinda prefer the look behind the mask the pilot version came off as sort of a Joker twisted psycho archetype and that’s been done to death where this has a different (and somewhat refreshing) feel to it
It's interesting how there's a very clear difference between how touchy-feely Alastor is compared to the pilot. In the Pilot he's quick to shake hands, lean on people, etc. In the show he rarely touches people, gestures to things with his cane, leans out of the way a lot, shakes Lucifer's cane and then wipe his hands off later. I think the most physically close he gets to people are Mimsy who's a old friend, Nifty who's a special case, and Charlie specifically to spite Lucifer.
I find both versions compelling since the original emphasizes the old-timey radio host persona he puts on, and you still get the impression he doesn’t prefer to be close with people outside of performing necessary theatrics for his profession, suggesting that he has always been a capable manipulator… but the standoffish affect captures someone who is realistically under duress and who used to be some serial killer or otherwise fucked up guy, somebody who detests being exposed as vulnerable. So anyway since the pilot seems mostly canon, both coexist well.
It might still come. In the Pilot it only spoke in one single scene. The thing I miss is that Alastor's presence and remarks were followed by sound effects and laughing tracks. That isn’t the case anymore.
2019 Pilot Alastor acted much more like an old-timey, eccentric radio show host to me. He was more energetic and mischevious, and his evil intentions weren't directly obvious and in your face. He was more fun. New 2024 Series Alastor is good, don't get me wrong, but they are clearly working harder to make him more openly bad and coniving. To me, it feels a bit more like they are taking an every-day villian and adding Alastor's looks and powers to it. I miss old Alastor that was more playfull and sarcastic, really.
yes!! this!! 2019 Alastor was a kinda more special/different villain. Not the typical "bad guy". and as u said, not that obvious as villain. Also, as u said(lol), he was literally talking like a Radio reporter from 1930 or sth. Now he is more like joking around, talking like a "modern" villain and it feels off and forced on him. Kinda out of character. Personally, Im also annoyed that he starts always talking of himself like a egoist. Like the scene in the Meeting "I bet you all wondered why I disappeared". I mean, it just doesnt fix to his character that he has to point out WHO he is. In the pilot he did it in a elegant way of showing n not randomly talking about hisself💀💀
Dude I cant even begin to explain how dissappointed I was when I saw the first few eps. Back then he had this charm to him, like a humble yet charismatic radio host. The show version Alastor just feels like the writers are trying too hard to make him marketable and edgy. He always seems so passive-agressive, unlike the the pilot version. The pilot version even had a softer design compared to the new super sharp look.😭 #bringbackpilotalastor
@@kodabear2856I also feel heavily like the old VA (Edward bosco) had a great transatlantic accent that made the radio effect seem way stronger while Amir heavily relies on it to sell the part. (I love both, lean more towards Ed but this is my observation/opinion)
Rather than It being that he got leashed after the Pilot, I feel like he already was leashed, but he used that more energetic personality to buy Charlie Into being a part of the Hotel, like some type of marketing
I don’t dislike the new Alastor, but I get two completely different vibes from the show one and the pilot one. Like feels like they’re two different characters.
Banal because in the pilot he was a gimmick and seemed to them a very dangerous guy from whom it was not clear what to expect. In the current episodes they +- got used to him, but that doesn't change the fact that part of the character's atmosphere was flushed down the toilet
@@arctical417 Literally, in the pilot he was polite but intimidating and only ever liked to annoy Vaggie. In the show he’s really random and hardly has conversations with any of the protagonists, kinda feels like he’s just, there.
In the first episode of the show he says he wants to see people fail. My biggest complaint about the whole dad thing (because it was obviously done to get at Lucifer), is that the whole scene was really the first time Alastor was talking to Charlie since the pilot (unless you count the commercial conversation which was more of a group thing)
He was clearly trying to manipulate Charlie, so she's would reject Lucifer's help offer. I don't think he even cares for Charlie that much. He just wants to pursue his own goals
Let me tell you, Alastor is one of the best characters, for the simple reason that you never know exactly what he's thinking. He made it clear on his first meeting with Charlie that he doesn't think redemption is possible for Hell's sinners, yet he still helps her get the hotel on its feet. Makes you wonder if he's got another motivation beyond the need for entertainment. Furthermore, his interactions with Charlie have become less frivolous and insulting. It's like he's grown to care about her.
I think it could be a Lilith thing, but I don't know what exactly. The amount of time they have been gone for is the same (the 7 years that keep getting mentioned) and Husk did say something about him "also being on a leash" in one of the newer episodes, which provoked a very extreme reaction. That would also explain the instant, and very blatant, dislike that he has for Lucifer and the need to insult him aiming at what he is self-conscious about (trying to be a good father)
if you don't like getting into analysis - then fine, but from what I have seen so far all characters have a purpose in this story and all are there for a reason, not just for the sake of being there - as they should, since everything in a story should happen for a reason and not 'just because' @@gulpingulpin3910
The problem is that you can't see really well that change in the series. In fact the things I hate the most about the seies is that there are soo few episode and the time is too wide between them (like every episode is 1 month) and so its super difficult to see how the characther grow. For example Angel's attitude is complitely different from episode 4 to 6 but we don't see how much effort he put into changing and tring to do the best things, we just see he is now acting right or at least he is tring really hard to do so, and Angel is the character where we see the most change and growth . In Alastor we only see that at the start he is mean and that in episode 5 he really care about Charlie and the Hotel whitout the two of them had any interaction, also we got almost more Alastor screen time in the plot than in the whole series, even if I know this is gonna change because he is going to have an episode dedicated to him.
My favorite part about new Al’s animation is how sometimes he smiles wide enough to see his gums, and it just adds so much ferocity to a normally very calm expression. Top notch
@@Pabloto-dq3sx i draw a lot so it’s something I tend to catch, its very appealing when done right. Its the kind of detail that you dont notice, but your brain did.
Is it just me or does pilot al sounds more like someone who is actually from the twenties and actually has experience with radio. I feel like now its just someone with a radio filter
All fax no printer 💀 what happened? It’s like they decided to let an edgy 14 year old (that has no idea what a dude who died in his late 30s/mid40s) speaks like, mind you) write his dialogue
Well it is a totally different actor and a slightly different writing team. Changes are to be expected. Unfortunately following on from the Ed Bosco and the script in the pilot was always going to be difficult. I think they did a good job, but it does feel like a step down.
yeah maybe its the fact his face isn't constantly on the same smile . the newer one probably does a better job as showing him being more dangerous.. do miss the older design tho
Pilot Alastor was very shifty and had strict difference between his friendly and scary moments making amazing contrast. New Alastor seems pretty much always the same. He looks more aggressive all the time, his voice doesnt change that much and he becomes “scary” very often which kind of deletes the whole contrast thing
I feel like old Alastor often went off-model quite a bit and his sharper features became more rounded, making him seem more goofy and comical at times, it kinda reminded me of how some older animated comedies were animated. Now he stays on model more and his sharper features are retained and no longer squashed and stretched (his new design actually is less round in general, opting for sharper curves or curves that go into a point).
I think its the eyes. They used to be circular, now theyre more angular. Personally theres a lot I prefer about the pilot animation but his eyes are one thing i think are miles better in the show
@@battledroid7628 in shape design, his round and bouncy self in the pilot felt like he was one of the good guys since round shapes are used as a sign of trust in design. In the new version they not only did make his design more sharper but also triangular. Triangle in shape design his the form of evil and danger, many villains and antagonists in games and cartoons have a triangular shape or a more sharp design. It means dangerous
@@nalathefox1983I think that's the issue, back then he was clearly evil but he was friend shaped, now he's still clearly evil but he's also villain shaped, it makes it more obvious he can't be trusted, his pilot design makes him less predictable, his personality clashed with his design in a way that kept you guessing as to what his motives were, or even who's side he was on
I feel like he was way more expressive and comedy focused in the pilot. Like an old time cartoon character and the show version is way more cynical and sinister. I mean he still has some slight cartoon like movements but he keeps them on the downlow. Like the little cane spin behind his back … though I guess with some parts he needs to be a bit expressive with his body language since he can’t stop smiling
I like Pilot Alastor’s writing and voice work (the buzz and acting alike) more. The buzz was a lot stronger and the voice acting was more consistently old timey.
God I remember when the Pilot came out people complained there where too many sound effects an it took away from the performance. Now they take it out people complain its not there.
It's just people being pissy and wanting the originals back. The show is way better with voices and animation, yet this comment section is full of people saying that the pilot was somehow better in every way
This happens with everything people complain, creators remove something people complained about, people complain about things being removed. That's how nostalgia works some movies were hated in the past but decade later began to be loved by everyone, there are countless examples of that in various media. That's how nostalgia works.
I enjoyed the radio sound effects around Alastor because it made sense if they were coming from him directly. The other sound effects in the pilot were a tad distracting but it grew on me.
"They Changed It, Now It Sucks" is a Trope for a reason. I'm honestly glad that I only rewatched the Pilot after jumping into the series. Alastor was my favorite from the first, and I was able to enjoy him in the series before reminding my brain to go, "They changed him, yuck." (Also, I might like Pilot Alastor more, but I like the overall series better than the pilot, and Series Alastor fits better in the series. So yeah.)
Because it's different people taking their turn to complain. The people that silently enjoyed the effects in the pilot are now complaining, while the people that complained about them are now silently enjoying their absence.
Viziepop has changed a lot with a lot of the characters because they dropped most of their introductions. For the average viewer who isn't up to date on the pilot (and if is canon), there's a bit of burden on inferring the characters for who they are. They defo toned Alastor down and removed his "I do this solely on my entertain!", removed Alastor's true purpose for a sense of mystery and intruiged, and gave him that period of absence in the real show. If they had more time in the beginning it wouldn't be as bumpy as it feels now. But they're doing a great job on keeping important aspects of characters 'n whatnot like his filter.
From what I’ve heard the Pilot is still fully canon. I actually tend to recommend people watch it before Episode 1, they flow pretty well from one to the other.
I prefer hazbin hotel over helluva boss because helluva boss kinda fell off after like the sixth or seventh episode imo. It just feels like that show never progressed and if it did it got no where and became dull
From what I can tell nothing about the Pilot and Episode 1 contradict each other. Alastor appearing at Hazbin Hotel isn't really much of a public return since, aside from him absolutely obliterating Sir Pentious and making his support for the Hotel official, he doesn't really do much. As such the Pilot is most likely entirely (or at least mostly) canon to the official show as additional media. Honestly I'm more curious if the Addict music vid is canon.
I liked pilot Alastor better because of how CONTRASTING his scary moments are. Don't get me wrong, show Al is still terrifying, but you see it coming. Pilot Alastor is so charming and upbeat that his snapping points are a lot scarier and less expected, and that's what made him so lovable and mysterious. The show really just turned him into an egocentric jerk.
Pilot Alastor was upbeat for exactly thirty seconds before he went for the “I would have done so already” The pilot was also MUCH quicker to explain Alastor as a murderous disaster who went around killing overlords
Sorry, but an egocentric jerk is exactly what he is... He always looks forward to being the most powerful person and cares a lot about how others perceive him. You can see how offended he is when he isn't recognized and how shocked he was when Adam almost murdered him so easily.
Basically. I like that the show made you see him as a more serious character, but they completely removed his goofiness from the Pilot and now every time he’s on screen you feel like he’s up to something
i rather like that it allows him to better blend into the background, to let charlie and the gang take the spotlight it gives a sense of him quietly plotting
Well the show takes place a week after the pilot. It could be that he used an overly enthusiastic mask as a selling point to get him on charlie's side. He probably dropped it over the course of the week seeing as it was only charlie, vaggie, and angel dust that needed persuasion at the time.
@@SportsFan838 not really he plays it up too much like he's trying to prove a point like a short guy trying to pick fights with tall people especially when he lost his first major fight
@@HeWhoWatched because the show's trying to fit in the new media, vivzie just said they don't want to look like a classy old school mickey mouse animation anymore and that's completely fine. And it would also be completely fine if it stayed the same.
I mean, Al only swore 3 times during the show. Once at Lucifer, calling Susan a bitch, and again at Adam. Yes he never swore in the pilot but you also have to realize that was just him getting a feel for the situation. There is no reason for him to swear. Just like how he doesn’t swear anytime else during the show. Hell before the prime show came out, there was a comic where he walks by vox’s tv stuff and starts cussing him out under his breathe. So he does swear, but only when he feels very strongly about something
If I had to guess, its because the newer design is drawn with a lot more detail and harder edges. Not to mention Old Alastor is much less angular and more expressive than his current counterpart.
Fr, the old one looks like the younger eccentric sibling while the new one is the older brother who is either subtly done with life or just mildly pissed.
For folks who aren't able to put their fingers on the difference, Pilot Alastor is unrepentant to the point that the word itself feels like an understatement, while on air Alastor is obviously a psychopath but tries to carry himself much more gentlemanly, and is surprisingly socially adept for how much effort he puts into being an antagonistic prick to others when the mood strikes him. Big example I don't think people are considering enough, when he tells Mimzy to leave, it's because she got the joint wrecked a bit, but also because he knows damn well that she won't participate in the hotel's aims sincerely and he doesn't want that in Charlie's business. So at some point Alastor went from thinking it's a complete joke to taking it seriously enough that he at least has moved to only wanting to see genuine participants go through the cycle of failure he thinks is the outcome here.
I think he takes it seriously in the show more because he's on a leash and (im assuming) someone is pressuring him into helping Charlie work this out, whereas in the pilot there really isn't any proof that he's indebted to anyone and is just in it for himself
I feel that the two are different in smiles. 2019 alestor has a smile that looks like it's glued to his face, and he's always happy. With his constant movement and everything But the actual show looks like he is putting on a persona with his smile. Like he dosnt move around as much when speaking. Maybe it's just that we have seen him in more stuff that he shouldn't be smiling about, like when Husk said he was on a leash.
It's interesting that in the show proper, he smiles even when no one is around, or in completely inappropriate situations. Like his part in episode 8's song where he's singing alone. It does give the impression that he genuinely can't control it, that it's painfully stuck on his face in some manner. I think animation differences are huge too, pilot face was more subtle and dynamic in it's expression of the smile and the actual episodes seem like his smile is creepily plastered on. Both are cool! Just different.
One thing that strikes me is even though the lines and colours in the pilot need work, the movement is actually far smoother and fun to watch. The amazon show animation can feel pretty janky at times.
Thank God I’m not the only one who noticed the change in Alastair’s character. I don’t mind Alastair in the show but man do I mourn the loss of Alastair from the pilot
Pilot Alastor : Compelling, warm, charming, always in control and also very polite. TV Alastor : Cocky, shows off power to establish control, less charming, cold, and worst.. *He's sloppy.*
Pilot Alastor does have that vintage cartoon/cuphead feel to go with his mannerisms. If Ichimaru Gin (or a Night Lord) was a Looney Tune, he'd be very Alastor.
What are you talking about? Of all the characters, I think he has changed the least from the pilot. He’s shown a bit more of his hand and we’ve learned more about him, but he’s still Alastor. This was always the plan.
@@NotEnoughCharactersForMyUserna Alastor used to have an old-timey charm and mysteriousness to him while only occasionally leaning into his morbid personality. New Alastor is just annoying, you can feel the writers trying to make him the next straight-to-merchandise Tumblr sexyman trying to recapture the magic of Sans and Bill Cipher with constant quips and one-liners followed by a 'ooh but i'm ACTUALLY super scary' moment. For every great line like 'this face was made for radio,' he's got an equally eye-roll worthy amount of 'the proper medium to express onesself'/'that was a productive meeting' zingers and 'this is what happens when you mess with the radio demon!/I will tear your soul apart and broadcast the screams!' lame-ass 'scary' lines. Maybe he was always intended to be this way, but he's 100% a character that has been hurt by getting more screentime.
Highly doubt the Exorcists would let her keep the angelic spear.. and instead she got a new one, especially since it doesn’t have any of the traits an angelic weapon has.
@@endgamer7896 true, but why would she leave such a dangerous weapon? That makes zero sense and I believe it’s just a plot hole or a forgotten piece to animate.
@@Pint-Sized-SlasherAnd why would she threaten Alastor if his weapon is just a common weapon? I'd say it's just a plot hole that he didn't take the gun away from her.
I like Alastor's portrayal in the pilot but it's important to remember that a pilot's job is to show the cast's full potential, so every character in that episode had their personality cranked up to 11. Alastor now is still incredibly similar as the show goes on, his mannerisms and radio bits are just more spread out to match the show's pacing, because honestly it can get kind of exhausting having that going on constantly.
I like his current design more than the 2019 one (I especially like the new white stripe on his suit; it makes his design pop more), though I think his actual character in the 2019 version is a little more fun. I thought it was cool when the radio static would convey his emotions (not just when he was angry).
Honestly, I like the aesthetic of the pilot more, everything looks softer with less harsh lines... I love the show don't get me wrong, but there's something about the pilot that I just miss.
personally, i think the sharper shapes works better it helps convey a more.. almost dangerous feel it works especially well with characters like alastor and husk but the soft style definitely fits charlie more
the new animation is definitely neater but man the pilot was so fluid and expressive... makes me want to go back to 2019 and experience it for the first time again lol
Noticeable differences: pilot: more close ups, doesn't interact with cane very much, very expressive face, s meter in his eyes is static when using powers, has body movements that are purposely rigid and has an accompanying audio que, has a laugh track/ a multitude of raido sound effects One thing to note is that his powers are both radio and elk/stag based now, when in the pilot his abilities seemed to be more radio based. With only minor elk/stag aesthetics. One of the many reasons why he is likely so powerful, he draws abilities from a source based on technology and another on nature. Vox draws his powers solely from the television as a source, technology which is inherently based on and can only exist because of radio waves, which is Al's power. So Al also has that creepy wendigo/leshen/forest eldrich horror stuff to work with.
I mean, I get people liked how he was in the pilot, but I think people let there own head canon get to them a bit too much with the fact that this man is quite literally a psychopathic serial killer and cannibal. He is know from making terrible deals and torturing people for fun. He is quite literally, a terrible terrible person. So I feel them making him less bouncy and more threatening matches his character much more.
@@millionplayz7819 I mean it would make him more potentially threatening if he was fun and bouncy except for some times when he just loses his shit, instead of always being violent and upfront about his terror. it would also make him seem like a more manipulative schemer rather than just another demon. the new version of him seems like a sociopath that always has to prove he's the biggest dick in the room, while the old one had more of a sense of mystery and "what the fuck?" when he would become suddenly scary. I can see the appeal of both sides though. the current version is a somewhat more relatable character that could be seen as a friend further down the line.
i think the new alastor is a lot more emotional and vulnerable which is honestly disappointing- in the pilot he was so unreadable and unpredictable which is what made him so dangerous. now i think he’s too expressive, which strips his character of its intimidation and makes him less dangerous.
@@su_patatita_1951 The whole thing with lucifer, his interaction with vox, the way he reacted to husker calling him out. Everything he did was out of emotion, not entertainment. Like don't get me wrong i don't hate the new alastor, but the old one was a joker, this one is just another interesting character.
@@ameerodah7671 Lucifer was the only time I really felt Alastor was emotionally vulnerable, Vox was way more emotionally vulnerable than Alastor and Al managed to get the upper hand on the TV Demon without much effort before threatening him. Lucifer and Husk were the only times I really felt that Alastor’s composure was broken (there was the tiny bit with Carmilla but Al didn’t really do anything besides a mean look for a second or two). Lucifer is fine because, well, it’s LUCIFER. If there’s anyone who should be able to break Al’s composure, it should be him, although I do think that the manner in which it was broken isn’t the best. Maybe we’ll learn more about that if the whole Lilith connection is true. Husk also is fine to me since he pushed the wrong buttons this time. He cusses at Al, pokes him in the chest and all around isn’t the most respectful, but Alastor never gets mad, but when Husk dares to imply that Al is a pet, all bets are off. Overkill? Yeah a little but that scene was fucking cool and intimidating so I’m not complaining.
When I look back where Alastor in the Pilot was like “Dear if I wanted to hurt anyone here…I would’ve done so here” especially how his voice becomes so powerful and demonic along with the radio sound. When I look at the new one I mean it’s not so bad but the pilot of Alastor just spooks me still.
Same here. The old one felt actually threatening. Felt more threatened by him then I every did with Stolas or the other powerful demons. The new one, well I'm going to steal pilot angel dust's line here "Him? He looks like a strawberry pimp."
He went from a silly but threatening goofball doing this for entertainment, to a stuck up jerk. Not gonna lie, i love both if them, but they feel like completely different characters
I liked his voice way more on the pilot. He seems more like a real old time broadcaster going wild, strong and pontual than the more toned down one. Plus he sounded more old, not necessarily more radical on sounding but over all you could hear that even his dialog was way more robust and elequent.
theyve made his filter cut out way more often than it did in the pilot, and honestly im loving it i think it helps convey a little more emotion- like his "true self" is poking through the veil a little
After watching both of them, you can really sees Vivzie’s style in the art and especially the animation, referencing her old work. Now its all sharp and professional in the amazon series.
It was so much fun to see him having the time of his life everytime he could pester Vaggie during the short pilot, in the series he just does whatever she wants....they nerfed my man, I'll never forgive them. Also him saying words like "b....tch" or "I'll end your f.... life" seem so out of character and edgy.
Actually, I think new Alastor's character suits his story better than pilot's one. In pilot he looked like a goofball which can be intimidating when he wanted to, but in the series he became THE threat and evil itself. Now it looks like he's not just goofing around for entertainment but actually manipulates demons, use them as their puppets and kills uninteresting and troublesome ones. I still like pilot version but this one suits him better imo
You know... considering how long it took for the Hazbin debut... VizziePop missed out on a prime joke opportunity. Lilith and Alastor should have been missing for 5 years XD
I can't quite place why but I feel like the personality changes feel very natural for the longer form medium of a whole series, compared to the short, conceptual pilot
I like the one in the pilot because it’s way more obvious he’s speaking with a radio filter. And his voice seemed like it was from a person talking in an old fashioned radio broadcast and its even better with the crowd laughs and other sound effects.
As much as I enjoy Alastors beef with Lucifer, I think it’s kinda absurd that Alastors that openly hateful. Feels weird that Alastor, a overlord, isn’t scared of Lucifer’s power. Surely he’s the most powerful being in all hell.
Alastor is a sociopathic narcissist, he refuses to fear anyone because they're all "beneath him". Lucifer is one of the only people seen as "above him" so he is immediately hostile towards him. Also considering that people like Vox and Val aren't afraid of Charlie's connection to Lucifer, I don't think Lucifer really abuses his power much otherwise every sinner would be kissing the ground Charlie walks on out of self preservation.
I think he *is* scared, and is trying to piss him off as much as he can because that's all he can do. He feels threatened when he's not the most powerfulin the room
My impression is it’s similar to Alastor, Lucifer hasn’t been publicly active for a a long time so people forgot he’s a genuinely powerful and frightening being. Odds are he probably would’ve made Alastair into a Clown and used him for Lucifer’s “Circus of Pain” for everyone in hell to watch and remember who runs the place, but Charlie was there and he clearly just wants to be on a good note and same page as her. So he didn’t do anything too…intense
I was thinking that too. Alastor is powerful, but is he really that powerful to the point of where he can be openly hateful and express his anger towards Lucifer??? I mean, the guy is the straight up ruler of hell. You'd think that even Alastor would show some respect or back down. You could argue that well, since Lucifer is Charlie's dad it does make sense for them to have similar personalities not wanting to really hurt anymore, but it just feels a bit odd how there seems to really be no threat for Alastor except for potentially Lillith.
It's hard to describe what it is that makes the pilot's animation look better to me. I think it's because it looks drawn the whole time, whereas the official show sort've looks like they're drawn puppets? It's more stiff, I guess. The colors and art style consistency are leagues better, though. You win some you lose some, I guess.
Well it’s mostly because with the pilot being 30 minutes, (estimate) they put all the budget into it where as in an 8 episode series they need to be able to spam the budget out, they just use the same models and time to time add hand made expressions. But I agree with what you said.
Imo the pilot is more janky and idk....stiff to me? The new one is much more fluid and the lines are consistent instead and having characters whole face shape be changed. Crazy how much the team has improved.
@@razoreniye2038 I'm just going off the clip here and my memory for the pilot, so maybe it is less fluid overall. But what clips I've seen of the official show, it has a less hand-drawn look to it. The only thing I can think to compare to it is the latest Lackadaisy short, where two characters are playing chess. That has a fluid feel, as though everything is alive, instead of just the mouth or a moving limb. Whereas, what I've seen of the official Hazbin show, has moments where a character just squeezes into a different pose, or flips instead of turning. Maybe it's because it's a very fast paced style? I dunno, it's hard to describe. And, again, maybe the pilot did have more stiff animation, I haven't watched it in a bit. These are just at-a-glance observations, and they're more preferences than critiques. But yeah, the improved consistency is great. The looks are better, I'm just not really a fan of the movement in a few scenes. I don't know if I'm even making sense, really.
@@bluelfsuma theres actually a reason theres less general movement in the show! its waaayyyy easier to have a still face and only move the mouth instead of moving the entire face. most shows actually do that but i TOTALLY get the stiff movement your talking about- especially one scene from Happy Day in Hell, when charlies running up the stairs- its like theres no weight or momentum there. id guess its probably because of the sheer amount of animating the team has done, with 2 seasons in production for the show
I honestly rather pilot alastor In the show he’s more demonically powerful In the pilot he’s more demonically horrifying also the radio sound effect is a lot less effective than the pilot. I also loved and miss the vintage sound effects within alastor.
The pilot Alastor was better i think, The way he acts with a lot of energy it really shows that he is in a position of power cause he clearly doesn't care at all what other think or say he just does as he pleases, This made him far more intimidating to me then the newer rendition.
Lmao for me, the fact that I didn't even notice till you pointed it out is a testament to how unimportant a detail it was! Nice touch for sure, but I don't think I was the only one who wasn't aware haha
Alaator was definitely a lot more low-key in the pilot then he is in the show. I'm not sure which one i prefer. On one hand Alastor is much more interesting when he's being really subtle, but on the otherhand he has a lot more memorable moments as a result of being more bold in the TV show. I dont imagine hes be well remembered from the pilot alone but stuff like his song with Vox or eating a dead deer is super memorable. I think his character is mroe unique in the pilot but his new personality lers him have a lot more fun character moments that honestly feels like a worthy trade off
What i miss the most is the bizarre effects that appear when he goes mad like in 0:24 or when we see husk for the first time, The new ones are a bit too polished and '''''correct'''''''
1:31 Tumble down line.... Makes my toes curl in sheer pleasure at his voice, good golly makes me shiver like im in a blizzard 2:51 That voice makes me shiver and MAN, does it feel good to be looked at like that.
@@ZanderEditz_ Apparently, Tall, classy, eccentric men with voices like that with red and black hair do it for me. This character lately has.... Well caused some inner searching.
tbf the firs one feels like when you just meet someone and wants to show your best side. This new one just feels like we know him for quite some time, but not well enogh yet, that we still get glimpses of a silly side.
Yes, but they were 2 very specific instances. The original commenter was saying it like just anybody could get under his skin, when that clearly is not the case. He was threatened by Lucifer being more powerful than him, and he was ashamed (?) of being on a leash@@Mainasugomi2402
I love how at 0:18 when he says “I haven’t been that entertained since the stock market crash of 1929” you can hear a stage audience laugh. And 0:13 when he says “What a performance!” You can hear clapping. I miss his old voice details.
In the pilot episode, Alastor tended to provoke others and play with their emotions, which gave a wonderful character to his provocative personality, in addition to the clearer voice of the pilot episode, which you can notice as the sound of a real radio, amazing sound effects and frequencies placed in the background, and the character of mystery in his actions that suggest a real devil. Therefore, I hope they repeat the character of Alastor in the second part, as they did in the pilot episode.
I still miss Edward Bosco's voice. Mainly the Bassy aspect. The new actort has the high end down pat, but the low register bosco had brought this incredible menace to him when he got serious.
Alastor in the pilot was the goofy version of "fuck around and find out" Went from -10 to 100 if he felt like it In the series he's just a narcissistic edgelord Still amusing But nothing compared to the pilot
@@richardch.4356 It just feels like the pilot version knows how powerful he is so he doesn't care much at all in general The series version feels like he knows how powerful he is and HAS TO let everyone know most of the time There are times where there are minimal to no differences But the parts where it counts feel very different For example I can't see the pilot alastor say "Show them not to mess with the radio demon" It's just a pilot I know But still
@@richardch.4356 for me it sometimes feels like he's a completely different character That's how I perceive it When the trailer dropped, I was completely disappointed with the voice But now I think it really fits But nothing compared to edward Bosco
I love the effect on his voice in the pilot a lot more. Makes his presence feel like there's a radio show going on and like it's the deciding factor of reality around him instead of just part of the voice design
the old alastor seems alot more bubbly with a sevearly twisted side, the new alastor seems like a sevearly twisted guy with a bubbly side.
That's why I like the new Alastor, you know you shouldn't mess with him and at least be on his bubbly side if you don't want to die
And I like it that way.
@@mangodip2170I feel like knowing a little less about what he was capable of and only hearing about it from “word of mouth” or seeing glimpses, actually did a better job of making his character more intriguing and intimidating.
Still love the new alastor, but he definitely could’ve taken a page or two out of the old one’s book.
@@MrMelonsz while there were definitely points where his powers were showcased a bit much, or just felt off (namely giant alastor in Dad Beats Dad), there's only so many times you can do word of mouth and implications before it becomes hot air. Yes its intriguing and intimidating, but it reaches a point of "ok, but can he ACTUALLY do anything or is he just creepypasta sound effects".
As it is there still seems to be a fair amount of his power we're yet to see, as well as the implication his deal is stunting his power, so we'll see how it goes
@@MrMelonsz i do agree, i wish they kept it more subtle instead ot adding 73 shots an episode of him looking sinnister and stuff. i feel like it would make him seem more scary with adding an air of mystery and making the viewers wonder the extent of his capabilities
Never realized how weirdly dusty the pilot looks
I don’t get how people prefer the pilot animation. It’s so much more clean now
Because it was the ORIGINAL also the art style was different had more emotion regardless of the dusty it was made though the heart and dedication.
The other was made for steaming still good though
@@ceoofwandaism7380 its a bit more soft... friendly and simpler
I liked the soft weirdly smooth and VERY detailed things like the DUSTYNESS. But I so really like both of the styles
And also it feels like the art style changes every few frames
His radio filter is much more prominent in the pilot
So much better too
A lot of people found it to be annoying back then
@@shazaz1059 I preferred it. It made it much more noticeable when the radio effect drops from his voice. I can't really hear if/when that happens in the show.
@@JenamDrag0n For a lot of people it made him much harder to understand, so it makes sense that they’d play it safer with toning it down.
I like it because it shows how radio focused demon he is but to be honest, it would be annoying if it keeps happen every dialogue he does
There are two things I miss about Alastor
1. His small modest smile. So he doesnt have to always keep that big grin
2. The tap dance sounds
I think they replaced his small smile with just closed smile. It's wide, but he doesn't flash the teeth half the show. A bit unusual to see
the tap dance sound made no sense when he was just walking around. sometimes he was even walking on carpet and it still made it. so in my opinion its better now.
@@TheLore. Little clickidy clack was kinda neat, it gave the impression of hooved feet
He literally has the same grin most of the pilot what r you on
I prefer the big grin. It's more unnerving that he maintains that same expression at all times. It makes it feel that much less genuine.
Alastor saying “fuck you” is unexpectedly hilarious because you don’t expect him to swear, because he seems to be above it but as it turned out, in the pilot Alastor never swore but in episode 5 when meeting Lucifer he just goes down to his level literally and metaphorically just to insult him.
Its so out of character, I love and hate it at the same time. Honestly experienced the 5 stages of greif when I heard it 😭
Al's so reserved when it comes to swearing. He's only muttered a few curses about Vox under his breath in "A day in the afterlife" comic, and that was when he was alone. I think the only reason he said "F*ck you" to Lucifer was because he's the king of Hell. If it were anyone else he probably would've foregone swearing and just tear them apart.
@@TeeHeeTwinkleToesit’s not out of character at all, IMO. He knows that he can’t touch the king of hell so this is all he can get away with to express his anger.
@@TheLastJack Thats true, he also probably felt threatened because of Lucifer's power status
@@TheLastJackeven when it comes to saying the F-Bomb to the king of hell but it was indeed funny 😂
I missed the random radio sounds that accompanied alastor in the pilot all the time. The random sound effects in the pilot sound out of place in certain scenes but the ones played around alastor sound natural. Because well he’s the radio demon
It was one of the things I loved about the pilot. I understand why they toned it down, but I loved the more radio sounds with the pilot.
That’s one thing I agree with
well this is the thing I can definetly see where you are coming from but listening to the pilot and the current show, I think they made the right choice toning the sound effects down a little because I can barely even hear Al's actual voice in the pilot but in the current episode you can actually hear his voice a lot more clearly
It was probably to make it easier for people to understand what he's saying, if I had to guess a reason.
Didn't Husk also have Casino noises follow him throughout the pilot? Like how you hear a fruit machine go off as he drinks the cheap booze.
things i miss:
the way his filter fades out every now and then
the radio noises that seemed to follow him (frequency scrolling, bass overload, snippets of actual radio stations)
things i like:
a presonality that fits his archetype way better
being less giddy and more sarcastic
being shown his demon form in more natural ways (it feels less forced)
his role in the hotel is much more present
His filter still fades out sometimes. In Episode 5, he asks Husk "What is it?" without the filter, implying the filter may be something he can turn on/off. He still does have radio noises that follow him, it's just been turned down a bunch. His role in the hotel is still very present, he's literally the one keeping the hotel afloat. Personally, I like both versions of Alastor.
his filter does actually fade out in the show several times!
but the fliter is less noticable, so its easy to miss
Yeah it’s cool, but I miss that creative spark the old one had a little bit more of.
Still love the new though of course.
literally all the facts i agree with
so much complaining 🙄🙄
Old Alastor felt a lot more conniving, jokey and patronising while the new Alastor is a lot more outwardly hostile, with a shorter temper and way more demeaning. This could stem from him apparently being on a rougher spot than he was in the pilot, someone's fucking with him and he's clearly on edge because of it.
I hope that's the case, if we're lucky maybe once he "unclips his wings" he'll turn more manipulative than outright threatening
You're not wrong. Series Alastor fits a lot better with what the series is doing, between its portrayals of abusers and faster pace. Pilot!Alastor would have needed room to breathe and build up that the format doesn't allow--Series!Alastor is hostile and demeaning, and when he hits hard it keeps the plot going. Also, while Pilot!Alastor had enough affability and charm to sneak into a found family dynamic early on (jambalaya, anyone?), I can almost see Series!Alastor getting more at ease with the cast, getting into a better spot, and easing into something closer to his pilot characterization. Assuming that the series theme of redemption extends to "ruining the villain" or "I can fix him" vibes, anyway.
Nah he just loves pushing people buttons and getting reactions he's not on edge
@@Meetskink I doubt it, since the writing team and help is fundamentally different
@@samuelokampo30 I know, but I'm still going to sit here and keep huffing copium pretending there's a chance
I love both versions of Alastor. The pilot Alastor was so feral, and the new Alastor is a bit more reserved. They're both wonderful.
Same, I think both are a perfectly valid take on the character with their own strengths
The new Alastor feels like a nigh unstoppable beast masquerading under a very heavy layer of sophistication that can drop at an instant
agreed 100%
@@darthrevan4933
I kinda prefer the old Alastor in that aspect.
The new one I feel "shows off" too much. It feels like he is *trying* to be intimidating.
The old one felt not only powerful, but powerful enough that he didn't feel the need to demonstrate his power. This let your imagination run wild with what he would be capable of.
I also wish he had at least one good, dominant fight before his near defeat by Addam.
@@CommentPositionInformer I kinda prefer the look behind the mask the pilot version came off as sort of a Joker twisted psycho archetype and that’s been done to death where this has a different (and somewhat refreshing) feel to it
It's interesting how there's a very clear difference between how touchy-feely Alastor is compared to the pilot. In the Pilot he's quick to shake hands, lean on people, etc. In the show he rarely touches people, gestures to things with his cane, leans out of the way a lot, shakes Lucifer's cane and then wipe his hands off later. I think the most physically close he gets to people are Mimsy who's a old friend, Nifty who's a special case, and Charlie specifically to spite Lucifer.
Rosie too!
If you look in Alastor’s song in the pilot, he actively smacks Vaggie’s ass.
I find both versions compelling since the original emphasizes the old-timey radio host persona he puts on, and you still get the impression he doesn’t prefer to be close with people outside of performing necessary theatrics for his profession, suggesting that he has always been a capable manipulator… but the standoffish affect captures someone who is realistically under duress and who used to be some serial killer or otherwise fucked up guy, somebody who detests being exposed as vulnerable. So anyway since the pilot seems mostly canon, both coexist well.
The small detail I miss about Alastor in the show is that the microphone doesn't talk anymore like it did in the pilot :(
It might still and we just haven’t heard it again yet I suppose
It probably will still talk, just not that much
Completely forgot it talked. Tbh I didn't like it
@@Diogenes323yeah, it was like a one time bit. It was never really gonna be a prominent thing lol.
It might still come. In the Pilot it only spoke in one single scene.
The thing I miss is that Alastor's presence and remarks were followed by sound effects and laughing tracks. That isn’t the case anymore.
2019 Pilot Alastor acted much more like an old-timey, eccentric radio show host to me. He was more energetic and mischevious, and his evil intentions weren't directly obvious and in your face. He was more fun. New 2024 Series Alastor is good, don't get me wrong, but they are clearly working harder to make him more openly bad and coniving. To me, it feels a bit more like they are taking an every-day villian and adding Alastor's looks and powers to it. I miss old Alastor that was more playfull and sarcastic, really.
yes!! this!! 2019 Alastor was a kinda more special/different villain. Not the typical "bad guy". and as u said, not that obvious as villain. Also, as u said(lol), he was literally talking like a Radio reporter from 1930 or sth. Now he is more like joking around, talking like a "modern" villain and it feels off and forced on him. Kinda out of character.
Personally, Im also annoyed that he starts always talking of himself like a egoist. Like the scene in the Meeting "I bet you all wondered why I disappeared". I mean, it just doesnt fix to his character that he has to point out WHO he is. In the pilot he did it in a elegant way of showing n not randomly talking about hisself💀💀
Dude I cant even begin to explain how dissappointed I was when I saw the first few eps. Back then he had this charm to him, like a humble yet charismatic radio host. The show version Alastor just feels like the writers are trying too hard to make him marketable and edgy. He always seems so passive-agressive, unlike the the pilot version. The pilot version even had a softer design compared to the new super sharp look.😭 #bringbackpilotalastor
@@iwantedtobethatanomaly2270they're exactly the same
2019 Alastor feels like is more like spamton atleast that's the vibe I get from him
@@solo_solomeh your just sulking, both of these alastors have there own strengths
Would've been amazing if they somehow kept that vintage feel of pilot Alastor in the show.
I agree!! Don’t get me wrong, Amir does an excellent job as Alastor, but the radio effect could give more like the pilot
SERIOUSLY THO I MISS IT SM
@@kodabear2856 Agreed on both points
@@kodabear2856I also feel heavily like the old VA (Edward bosco) had a great transatlantic accent that made the radio effect seem way stronger while Amir heavily relies on it to sell the part.
(I love both, lean more towards Ed but this is my observation/opinion)
@@Mads_Hatter I agree!
*Headcanon:* Alastor in pilot is how he used to be before he got put on leash.
that's my headcanon too!! same character, but a changed man
Rather than It being that he got leashed after the Pilot, I feel like he already was leashed, but he used that more energetic personality to buy Charlie Into being a part of the Hotel, like some type of marketing
I actually dig this- He's been more pissy since he got chained up lmfao
I like this :D
@@cacklingcryptidPussy? He's literally a schemer, his whole facade keeps people like Charlie fooled.
I don’t dislike the new Alastor, but I get two completely different vibes from the show one and the pilot one. Like feels like they’re two different characters.
Same, they just seem like different characters
Banal because in the pilot he was a gimmick and seemed to them a very dangerous guy from whom it was not clear what to expect. In the current episodes they +- got used to him, but that doesn't change the fact that part of the character's atmosphere was flushed down the toilet
Exactly
@@arctical417 Literally, in the pilot he was polite but intimidating and only ever liked to annoy Vaggie. In the show he’s really random and hardly has conversations with any of the protagonists, kinda feels like he’s just, there.
I just took it that the group got mostly comfortable around him and he got more comfortable and doesn't feel the need to be as threatening as often
Pilot: wants to see people fail miserably
Show: Dad
In the first episode of the show he says he wants to see people fail. My biggest complaint about the whole dad thing (because it was obviously done to get at Lucifer), is that the whole scene was really the first time Alastor was talking to Charlie since the pilot (unless you count the commercial conversation which was more of a group thing)
He isn't a dad in the show lol, that was purely to piss off Lucifer
@@flap.d.jack247yes he made it pretty clear in the show he's using her yet people keep thinking he's a good guy
He was clearly trying to manipulate Charlie, so she's would reject Lucifer's help offer. I don't think he even cares for Charlie that much. He just wants to pursue his own goals
I liked him better ngl
Let me tell you, Alastor is one of the best characters, for the simple reason that you never know exactly what he's thinking. He made it clear on his first meeting with Charlie that he doesn't think redemption is possible for Hell's sinners, yet he still helps her get the hotel on its feet. Makes you wonder if he's got another motivation beyond the need for entertainment. Furthermore, his interactions with Charlie have become less frivolous and insulting. It's like he's grown to care about her.
I think it could be a Lilith thing, but I don't know what exactly. The amount of time they have been gone for is the same (the 7 years that keep getting mentioned) and Husk did say something about him "also being on a leash" in one of the newer episodes, which provoked a very extreme reaction. That would also explain the instant, and very blatant, dislike that he has for Lucifer and the need to insult him aiming at what he is self-conscious about (trying to be a good father)
I mean it doesn't really make me wonder why he's here, any character is added in because the writer wanted someone like the character to be here.
if you don't like getting into analysis - then fine, but from what I have seen so far all characters have a purpose in this story and all are there for a reason, not just for the sake of being there - as they should, since everything in a story should happen for a reason and not 'just because' @@gulpingulpin3910
@@lumilumiiThat would explain why Alastor had the ability to tear souls apart too, especially after arriving in Hell so suddenly and rising so quickly
The problem is that you can't see really well that change in the series. In fact the things I hate the most about the seies is that there are soo few episode and the time is too wide between them (like every episode is 1 month) and so its super difficult to see how the characther grow. For example Angel's attitude is complitely different from episode 4 to 6 but we don't see how much effort he put into changing and tring to do the best things, we just see he is now acting right or at least he is tring really hard to do so, and Angel is the character where we see the most change and growth . In Alastor we only see that at the start he is mean and that in episode 5 he really care about Charlie and the Hotel whitout the two of them had any interaction, also we got almost more Alastor screen time in the plot than in the whole series, even if I know this is gonna change because he is going to have an episode dedicated to him.
My favorite part about new Al’s animation is how sometimes he smiles wide enough to see his gums, and it just adds so much ferocity to a normally very calm expression. Top notch
Weird detail, good catch!
@@Pabloto-dq3sx i draw a lot so it’s something I tend to catch, its very appealing when done right. Its the kind of detail that you dont notice, but your brain did.
Is it just me or does pilot al sounds more like someone who is actually from the twenties and actually has experience with radio. I feel like now its just someone with a radio filter
He lost that transatlantic accent and that radiohost vibe
All fax no printer 💀 what happened? It’s like they decided to let an edgy 14 year old (that has no idea what a dude who died in his late 30s/mid40s) speaks like, mind you) write his dialogue
Well it is a totally different actor and a slightly different writing team. Changes are to be expected.
Unfortunately following on from the Ed Bosco and the script in the pilot was always going to be difficult. I think they did a good job, but it does feel like a step down.
Something about the 2019 Alastor seemed a bit more friendly compared to the 2024 version. But that's just me.
yeah maybe its the fact his face isn't constantly on the same smile . the newer one probably does a better job as showing him being more dangerous.. do miss the older design tho
Pilot Alastor was very shifty and had strict difference between his friendly and scary moments making amazing contrast. New Alastor seems pretty much always the same. He looks more aggressive all the time, his voice doesnt change that much and he becomes “scary” very often which kind of deletes the whole contrast thing
I feel like old Alastor often went off-model quite a bit and his sharper features became more rounded, making him seem more goofy and comical at times, it kinda reminded me of how some older animated comedies were animated. Now he stays on model more and his sharper features are retained and no longer squashed and stretched (his new design actually is less round in general, opting for sharper curves or curves that go into a point).
I think its the eyes. They used to be circular, now theyre more angular. Personally theres a lot I prefer about the pilot animation but his eyes are one thing i think are miles better in the show
His eyes are the only thing I can say I LOVE in the show. They're so pretty
they made his design a lot more… i’d say angular? sharper? whatever, it’s a really good use of shape language.
Definitely so they could streamline the animation process better, which would be my guess.
Honestly I kind of miss the old design a little, combined with the animation it was a lot more expressive
@@battledroid7628 in shape design, his round and bouncy self in the pilot felt like he was one of the good guys since round shapes are used as a sign of trust in design. In the new version they not only did make his design more sharper but also triangular. Triangle in shape design his the form of evil and danger, many villains and antagonists in games and cartoons have a triangular shape or a more sharp design. It means dangerous
@@nalathefox1983I think that's the issue, back then he was clearly evil but he was friend shaped, now he's still clearly evil but he's also villain shaped, it makes it more obvious he can't be trusted, his pilot design makes him less predictable, his personality clashed with his design in a way that kept you guessing as to what his motives were, or even who's side he was on
They did that with every single character
I feel like he was way more expressive and comedy focused in the pilot. Like an old time cartoon character and the show version is way more cynical and sinister. I mean he still has some slight cartoon like movements but he keeps them on the downlow. Like the little cane spin behind his back … though I guess with some parts he needs to be a bit expressive with his body language since he can’t stop smiling
I like Pilot Alastor’s writing and voice work (the buzz and acting alike) more. The buzz was a lot stronger and the voice acting was more consistently old timey.
God I remember when the Pilot came out people complained there where too many sound effects an it took away from the performance. Now they take it out people complain its not there.
It's just people being pissy and wanting the originals back. The show is way better with voices and animation, yet this comment section is full of people saying that the pilot was somehow better in every way
This happens with everything people complain, creators remove something people complained about, people complain about things being removed.
That's how nostalgia works some movies were hated in the past but decade later began to be loved by everyone, there are countless examples of that in various media.
That's how nostalgia works.
I enjoyed the radio sound effects around Alastor because it made sense if they were coming from him directly. The other sound effects in the pilot were a tad distracting but it grew on me.
"They Changed It, Now It Sucks" is a Trope for a reason. I'm honestly glad that I only rewatched the Pilot after jumping into the series. Alastor was my favorite from the first, and I was able to enjoy him in the series before reminding my brain to go, "They changed him, yuck." (Also, I might like Pilot Alastor more, but I like the overall series better than the pilot, and Series Alastor fits better in the series. So yeah.)
Because it's different people taking their turn to complain.
The people that silently enjoyed the effects in the pilot are now complaining, while the people that complained about them are now silently enjoying their absence.
Viziepop has changed a lot with a lot of the characters because they dropped most of their introductions. For the average viewer who isn't up to date on the pilot (and if is canon), there's a bit of burden on inferring the characters for who they are. They defo toned Alastor down and removed his "I do this solely on my entertain!", removed Alastor's true purpose for a sense of mystery and intruiged, and gave him that period of absence in the real show. If they had more time in the beginning it wouldn't be as bumpy as it feels now. But they're doing a great job on keeping important aspects of characters 'n whatnot like his filter.
From what I’ve heard the Pilot is still fully canon. I actually tend to recommend people watch it before Episode 1, they flow pretty well from one to the other.
@@johnsledge3942of course the pilot is canon. That's literally where they first meet alastor! They already knew him on episode 1.
I prefer hazbin hotel over helluva boss because helluva boss kinda fell off after like the sixth or seventh episode imo. It just feels like that show never progressed and if it did it got no where and became dull
From what I can tell nothing about the Pilot and Episode 1 contradict each other. Alastor appearing at Hazbin Hotel isn't really much of a public return since, aside from him absolutely obliterating Sir Pentious and making his support for the Hotel official, he doesn't really do much. As such the Pilot is most likely entirely (or at least mostly) canon to the official show as additional media. Honestly I'm more curious if the Addict music vid is canon.
@@CouchSpud91 pretty sure both are Canon it's really not that difficult to connect them to the show
I liked pilot Alastor better because of how CONTRASTING his scary moments are. Don't get me wrong, show Al is still terrifying, but you see it coming.
Pilot Alastor is so charming and upbeat that his snapping points are a lot scarier and less expected, and that's what made him so lovable and mysterious. The show really just turned him into an egocentric jerk.
Pilot Alastor was upbeat for exactly thirty seconds before he went for the “I would have done so already”
The pilot was also MUCH quicker to explain Alastor as a murderous disaster who went around killing overlords
Well you’re not supposed to love a cannibalistic serial killer lol
Sorry, but an egocentric jerk is exactly what he is... He always looks forward to being the most powerful person and cares a lot about how others perceive him. You can see how offended he is when he isn't recognized and how shocked he was when Adam almost murdered him so easily.
This is EXACTLY what it's all about! He felt a lot more sly, and his mercurial moods constantly under his complete control, yet no less genuine.
Basically. I like that the show made you see him as a more serious character, but they completely removed his goofiness from the Pilot and now every time he’s on screen you feel like he’s up to something
Honestly, old Alastor seemed to show more expression, while new Alastor lacks the amount of energy he showed in the Pilot.
i rather like that
it allows him to better blend into the background, to let charlie and the gang take the spotlight
it gives a sense of him quietly plotting
Yes, idk why people say they're different characters :v
yeeeeeeeees 100% agree and i love both of them
If you watch the pilot and the show back to back, pilot Alastor almost feels like an excited child at Christmas, messing around with his newest toy.
Well the show takes place a week after the pilot. It could be that he used an overly enthusiastic mask as a selling point to get him on charlie's side. He probably dropped it over the course of the week seeing as it was only charlie, vaggie, and angel dust that needed persuasion at the time.
Pilot Alastor was more intimidating than the show version
It's the opposite.
Pilot Alastor had a More cartoony design, this one Is "sharper" trying not to say edgier
Quuuite the opposite for me.
@@SportsFan838 not really he plays it up too much like he's trying to prove a point like a short guy trying to pick fights with tall people especially when he lost his first major fight
@@HeWhoWatched because the show's trying to fit in the new media, vivzie just said they don't want to look like a classy old school mickey mouse animation anymore and that's completely fine. And it would also be completely fine if it stayed the same.
The previous alastor VA was a fast talker, smooth and charming. he didn't swear once.
I mean, Al only swore 3 times during the show. Once at Lucifer, calling Susan a bitch, and again at Adam. Yes he never swore in the pilot but you also have to realize that was just him getting a feel for the situation. There is no reason for him to swear. Just like how he doesn’t swear anytime else during the show. Hell before the prime show came out, there was a comic where he walks by vox’s tv stuff and starts cussing him out under his breathe. So he does swear, but only when he feels very strongly about something
I miss Edward's Alastor
@@millionplayz78194 times actually, he dropped one more f bomb after asking ''what just happened'' after Adam completely obliterated him
@@defectiveemeralds9093i knowwww. i loved the rasp he had to his voice, it was endearing
He is so much more expressive in the pilot, I miss the old Alastor
Why does the new Alastor design look like the father of the old Alastor design?
Omg you’re right, maybe it’s because he has a sharper design and the original is more rounded
If I had to guess, its because the newer design is drawn with a lot more detail and harder edges.
Not to mention Old Alastor is much less angular and more expressive than his current counterpart.
Fr, the old one looks like the younger eccentric sibling while the new one is the older brother who is either subtly done with life or just mildly pissed.
For folks who aren't able to put their fingers on the difference, Pilot Alastor is unrepentant to the point that the word itself feels like an understatement, while on air Alastor is obviously a psychopath but tries to carry himself much more gentlemanly, and is surprisingly socially adept for how much effort he puts into being an antagonistic prick to others when the mood strikes him.
Big example I don't think people are considering enough, when he tells Mimzy to leave, it's because she got the joint wrecked a bit, but also because he knows damn well that she won't participate in the hotel's aims sincerely and he doesn't want that in Charlie's business.
So at some point Alastor went from thinking it's a complete joke to taking it seriously enough that he at least has moved to only wanting to see genuine participants go through the cycle of failure he thinks is the outcome here.
I think he takes it seriously in the show more because he's on a leash and (im assuming) someone is pressuring him into helping Charlie work this out, whereas in the pilot there really isn't any proof that he's indebted to anyone and is just in it for himself
I feel that the two are different in smiles. 2019 alestor has a smile that looks like it's glued to his face, and he's always happy. With his constant movement and everything
But the actual show looks like he is putting on a persona with his smile. Like he dosnt move around as much when speaking.
Maybe it's just that we have seen him in more stuff that he shouldn't be smiling about, like when Husk said he was on a leash.
It's interesting that in the show proper, he smiles even when no one is around, or in completely inappropriate situations.
Like his part in episode 8's song where he's singing alone. It does give the impression that he genuinely can't control it, that it's painfully stuck on his face in some manner.
I think animation differences are huge too, pilot face was more subtle and dynamic in it's expression of the smile and the actual episodes seem like his smile is creepily plastered on.
Both are cool! Just different.
One thing that strikes me is even though the lines and colours in the pilot need work, the movement is actually far smoother and fun to watch. The amazon show animation can feel pretty janky at times.
Thank God I’m not the only one who noticed the change in Alastair’s character. I don’t mind Alastair in the show but man do I mourn the loss of Alastair from the pilot
Yeah he was a lot more intimidating in the pilot!
Pilot Alastor : Compelling, warm, charming, always in control and also very polite.
TV Alastor : Cocky, shows off power to establish control, less charming, cold, and worst.. *He's sloppy.*
I love both the old and new VA, really amazing character
What happened to the old one?
@@Ariennon was replaced after the pilot with a new VA
I kinda miss the sounds of hoofs when Alastor is walking and I miss the radio sounds that Alastor made in the pilot
OG Alastor vs Bugs Bunny with anger issues
There more or less the same all though the old had that old black and white cartoon feel to it.
don't forget the new one swears
Pilot Alastor does have that vintage cartoon/cuphead feel to go with his mannerisms. If Ichimaru Gin (or a Night Lord) was a Looney Tune, he'd be very Alastor.
I miss old Alastor :(
What are you talking about? Of all the characters, I think he has changed the least from the pilot. He’s shown a bit more of his hand and we’ve learned more about him, but he’s still Alastor. This was always the plan.
@@NotEnoughCharactersForMyUsernajust let me have an opinion
@@NotEnoughCharactersForMyUserna in the show he has lost a LOT of the trans-atlantic accent, it really hurts the character in my opinion.
@@Haydenwern4113 YEEEES
@@NotEnoughCharactersForMyUserna Alastor used to have an old-timey charm and mysteriousness to him while only occasionally leaning into his morbid personality. New Alastor is just annoying, you can feel the writers trying to make him the next straight-to-merchandise Tumblr sexyman trying to recapture the magic of Sans and Bill Cipher with constant quips and one-liners followed by a 'ooh but i'm ACTUALLY super scary' moment. For every great line like 'this face was made for radio,' he's got an equally eye-roll worthy amount of 'the proper medium to express onesself'/'that was a productive meeting' zingers and 'this is what happens when you mess with the radio demon!/I will tear your soul apart and broadcast the screams!' lame-ass 'scary' lines.
Maybe he was always intended to be this way, but he's 100% a character that has been hurt by getting more screentime.
I just fucking realized that Vaggie can easily kill Alastor with her spear as Alastor is a sinner and can die to an exorcist blade
I don't think Alastor would be that weak to let that happen😂.
Highly doubt the Exorcists would let her keep the angelic spear.. and instead she got a new one, especially since it doesn’t have any of the traits an angelic weapon has.
I mean when we saw Lute take off her wings and her other accessories, we never actually saw her take Vaggie's spear@@Pint-Sized-Slasher
@@endgamer7896 true, but why would she leave such a dangerous weapon? That makes zero sense and I believe it’s just a plot hole or a forgotten piece to animate.
@@Pint-Sized-SlasherAnd why would she threaten Alastor if his weapon is just a common weapon? I'd say it's just a plot hole that he didn't take the gun away from her.
Crazy to think 5 minutes of Alastor, and people made houndreds of comics.
"HaHAAA! Fuck you."
best Alastor line of season 1.
all the fangirls seem to disagree.
but I agree with you.
I prefer his "HA! No" from pilot
I like Alastor's portrayal in the pilot but it's important to remember that a pilot's job is to show the cast's full potential, so every character in that episode had their personality cranked up to 11. Alastor now is still incredibly similar as the show goes on, his mannerisms and radio bits are just more spread out to match the show's pacing, because honestly it can get kind of exhausting having that going on constantly.
Alastor appears more energetic in the pilot, while in the new version, he seems somewhat more subdued.
Pilot version has more personality.
I really like Alastor’s design from 2019
especially his VA and also the more played radio-noise sounds
I like his current design more than the 2019 one (I especially like the new white stripe on his suit; it makes his design pop more), though I think his actual character in the 2019 version is a little more fun. I thought it was cool when the radio static would convey his emotions (not just when he was angry).
Honestly, I like the aesthetic of the pilot more, everything looks softer with less harsh lines... I love the show don't get me wrong, but there's something about the pilot that I just miss.
personally, i think the sharper shapes works better
it helps convey a more.. almost dangerous feel
it works especially well with characters like alastor and husk
but the soft style definitely fits charlie more
The squash and stretch, probably.
@@bug_a_boo3309 Someone else commented that Pilot Alastor is friend-shaped, which helps with the dissonance of knowing what he can do.
The old style fits Charlie while the new one fits every other character which Is kinda odd ngl
the new animation is definitely neater but man the pilot was so fluid and expressive... makes me want to go back to 2019 and experience it for the first time again lol
His face went from weirdly rounded from very sharp looking
Noticeable differences:
pilot: more close ups, doesn't interact with cane very much, very expressive face, s meter in his eyes is static when using powers, has body movements that are purposely rigid and has an accompanying audio que, has a laugh track/ a multitude of raido sound effects
One thing to note is that his powers are both radio and elk/stag based now, when in the pilot his abilities seemed to be more radio based. With only minor elk/stag aesthetics. One of the many reasons why he is likely so powerful, he draws abilities from a source based on technology and another on nature. Vox draws his powers solely from the television as a source, technology which is inherently based on and can only exist because of radio waves, which is Al's power. So Al also has that creepy wendigo/leshen/forest eldrich horror stuff to work with.
new Alastor is less old timey and more threatening.
I mean, I get people liked how he was in the pilot, but I think people let there own head canon get to them a bit too much with the fact that this man is quite literally a psychopathic serial killer and cannibal. He is know from making terrible deals and torturing people for fun. He is quite literally, a terrible terrible person. So I feel them making him less bouncy and more threatening matches his character much more.
@@millionplayz7819 I mean it would make him more potentially threatening if he was fun and bouncy except for some times when he just loses his shit, instead of always being violent and upfront about his terror. it would also make him seem like a more manipulative schemer rather than just another demon. the new version of him seems like a sociopath that always has to prove he's the biggest dick in the room, while the old one had more of a sense of mystery and "what the fuck?" when he would become suddenly scary.
I can see the appeal of both sides though. the current version is a somewhat more relatable character that could be seen as a friend further down the line.
I perfer the old Alastor honestly. He had more personality and was a bit more fun. Not that the new one doesn't, but the old one had more.
I love the shows animation, but there's something so charming about the pilots animation, its so bouncy and round
i think the new alastor is a lot more emotional and vulnerable which is honestly disappointing- in the pilot he was so unreadable and unpredictable which is what made him so dangerous. now i think he’s too expressive, which strips his character of its intimidation and makes him less dangerous.
Could you give an example of the new Alastor being emotional and vulnerable?
Yeah aside from that one example where he loses his cool with Husk cause he mentioned some very dark secret he doesn't want to share
@@su_patatita_1951 The whole thing with lucifer, his interaction with vox, the way he reacted to husker calling him out. Everything he did was out of emotion, not entertainment. Like don't get me wrong i don't hate the new alastor, but the old one was a joker, this one is just another interesting character.
oh and the "fuck you" line.
@@ameerodah7671 Lucifer was the only time I really felt Alastor was emotionally vulnerable, Vox was way more emotionally vulnerable than Alastor and Al managed to get the upper hand on the TV Demon without much effort before threatening him. Lucifer and Husk were the only times I really felt that Alastor’s composure was broken (there was the tiny bit with Carmilla but Al didn’t really do anything besides a mean look for a second or two).
Lucifer is fine because, well, it’s LUCIFER. If there’s anyone who should be able to break Al’s composure, it should be him, although I do think that the manner in which it was broken isn’t the best. Maybe we’ll learn more about that if the whole Lilith connection is true. Husk also is fine to me since he pushed the wrong buttons this time. He cusses at Al, pokes him in the chest and all around isn’t the most respectful, but Alastor never gets mad, but when Husk dares to imply that Al is a pet, all bets are off. Overkill? Yeah a little but that scene was fucking cool and intimidating so I’m not complaining.
When I look back where Alastor in the Pilot was like “Dear if I wanted to hurt anyone here…I would’ve done so here” especially how his voice becomes so powerful and demonic along with the radio sound. When I look at the new one I mean it’s not so bad but the pilot of Alastor just spooks me still.
Same here. The old one felt actually threatening. Felt more threatened by him then I every did with Stolas or the other powerful demons.
The new one, well I'm going to steal pilot angel dust's line here "Him? He looks like a strawberry pimp."
He went from a silly but threatening goofball doing this for entertainment, to a stuck up jerk. Not gonna lie, i love both if them, but they feel like completely different characters
I liked his voice way more on the pilot. He seems more like a real old time broadcaster going wild, strong and pontual than the more toned down one. Plus he sounded more old, not necessarily more radical on sounding but over all you could hear that even his dialog was way more robust and elequent.
Is no one else noticing his laugh at 2:59 theres no radio filter on it
Also the filter cuts off at 2:14 1:58 2:45 for a second
theyve made his filter cut out way more often than it did in the pilot, and honestly im loving it
i think it helps convey a little more emotion- like his "true self" is poking through the veil a little
0:10 bro doesn't know what to call an advertisement its so cute given the fact he died around the golden age of radios 😂😂😂
YESS, it’s adorable.
After watching both of them, you can really sees Vivzie’s style in the art and especially the animation, referencing her old work. Now its all sharp and professional in the amazon series.
1:22 this little twirl is one of my favorite pieces of internet animation. It's perfect for his character and the accompanying sound is magical
I literally couldn't find where this little music thing is from, it would sound so good as an electroswing sample
Before or After, New or Old, he NEVER fails to make me smile.
It was so much fun to see him having the time of his life everytime he could pester Vaggie during the short pilot, in the series he just does whatever she wants....they nerfed my man, I'll never forgive them.
Also him saying words like "b....tch" or "I'll end your f.... life" seem so out of character and edgy.
Alastors smile is more pointy in the main show vs the pilot if that makes sense
Actually, I think new Alastor's character suits his story better than pilot's one. In pilot he looked like a goofball which can be intimidating when he wanted to, but in the series he became THE threat and evil itself. Now it looks like he's not just goofing around for entertainment but actually manipulates demons, use them as their puppets and kills uninteresting and troublesome ones. I still like pilot version but this one suits him better imo
no.
You know... considering how long it took for the Hazbin debut... VizziePop missed out on a prime joke opportunity. Lilith and Alastor should have been missing for 5 years XD
I can't quite place why but I feel like the personality changes feel very natural for the longer form medium of a whole series, compared to the short, conceptual pilot
I like the one in the pilot because it’s way more obvious he’s speaking with a radio filter. And his voice seemed like it was from a person talking in an old fashioned radio broadcast and its even better with the crowd laughs and other sound effects.
As much as I enjoy Alastors beef with Lucifer, I think it’s kinda absurd that Alastors that openly hateful. Feels weird that Alastor, a overlord, isn’t scared of Lucifer’s power. Surely he’s the most powerful being in all hell.
Alastor is a sociopathic narcissist, he refuses to fear anyone because they're all "beneath him". Lucifer is one of the only people seen as "above him" so he is immediately hostile towards him. Also considering that people like Vox and Val aren't afraid of Charlie's connection to Lucifer, I don't think Lucifer really abuses his power much otherwise every sinner would be kissing the ground Charlie walks on out of self preservation.
I think he *is* scared, and is trying to piss him off as much as he can because that's all he can do. He feels threatened when he's not the most powerfulin the room
My impression is it’s similar to Alastor, Lucifer hasn’t been publicly active for a a long time so people forgot he’s a genuinely powerful and frightening being. Odds are he probably would’ve made Alastair into a Clown and used him for Lucifer’s “Circus of Pain” for everyone in hell to watch and remember who runs the place, but Charlie was there and he clearly just wants to be on a good note and same page as her. So he didn’t do anything too…intense
He knows lilith would kick his ass if he layed a hand on her radio demon
I was thinking that too. Alastor is powerful, but is he really that powerful to the point of where he can be openly hateful and express his anger towards Lucifer??? I mean, the guy is the straight up ruler of hell. You'd think that even Alastor would show some respect or back down. You could argue that well, since Lucifer is Charlie's dad it does make sense for them to have similar personalities not wanting to really hurt anymore, but it just feels a bit odd how there seems to really be no threat for Alastor except for potentially Lillith.
Can we appreciate the cameraman's camera being able to record alastor without it glitching/breaking
It's not a camera. It's a video radio, so it's fine.
@@ludo_narrThe Idea of a Video Radio Is actually pretty funny
It's hard to describe what it is that makes the pilot's animation look better to me. I think it's because it looks drawn the whole time, whereas the official show sort've looks like they're drawn puppets? It's more stiff, I guess. The colors and art style consistency are leagues better, though. You win some you lose some, I guess.
Huh, I actually like how they move in the show a lot more, it's a lot more pleasing to my eyes I think.
Well it’s mostly because with the pilot being 30 minutes, (estimate) they put all the budget into it where as in an 8 episode series they need to be able to spam the budget out, they just use the same models and time to time add hand made expressions. But I agree with what you said.
Imo the pilot is more janky and idk....stiff to me? The new one is much more fluid and the lines are consistent instead and having characters whole face shape be changed. Crazy how much the team has improved.
@@razoreniye2038 I'm just going off the clip here and my memory for the pilot, so maybe it is less fluid overall. But what clips I've seen of the official show, it has a less hand-drawn look to it.
The only thing I can think to compare to it is the latest Lackadaisy short, where two characters are playing chess. That has a fluid feel, as though everything is alive, instead of just the mouth or a moving limb. Whereas, what I've seen of the official Hazbin show, has moments where a character just squeezes into a different pose, or flips instead of turning. Maybe it's because it's a very fast paced style?
I dunno, it's hard to describe. And, again, maybe the pilot did have more stiff animation, I haven't watched it in a bit. These are just at-a-glance observations, and they're more preferences than critiques.
But yeah, the improved consistency is great. The looks are better, I'm just not really a fan of the movement in a few scenes. I don't know if I'm even making sense, really.
@@bluelfsuma theres actually a reason theres less general movement in the show! its waaayyyy easier to have a still face and only move the mouth instead of moving the entire face. most shows actually do that
but i TOTALLY get the stiff movement your talking about- especially one scene from Happy Day in Hell, when charlies running up the stairs- its like theres no weight or momentum there. id guess its probably because of the sheer amount of animating the team has done, with 2 seasons in production for the show
Kinda wish that he made more radio noises.
I’m so happy the pilot seems to still be canon. A lot of my fav lines from Alastor are from the pilot. 😊
I can’t see pilot Charlie and new Charlie as the same character! So much changed
I think you mean Alastor lol
YOU SAW THAT MORE THREATENIONG VERSION TOO-
“Do you mind? I am in the middle of breakFAST!”
IDK Why this line is the funniest
I miss how the pilot showed alastor using the old timey accent, and making all those references now it’s just a guy with a distortion
you get it :(
I don’t think he has really changed think he’s just showed us more
I honestly rather pilot alastor
In the show he’s more demonically powerful
In the pilot he’s more demonically horrifying
also the radio sound effect is a lot less effective than the pilot. I also loved and miss the vintage sound effects within alastor.
It feels like they toned him down as a character in the amazon series.
Honestly 2024 Al just feels like what Bosco was doing in the hunicasts.
I kinda thought this too 🤣🤣🤣🤣
My favorite character he just oozes so much charisma
The pilot Alastor was better i think, The way he acts with a lot of energy it really shows that he is in a position of power cause he clearly doesn't care at all what other think or say he just does as he pleases, This made him far more intimidating to me then the newer rendition.
Current Alastor feels like the adult cartoon version of Old Alastor and I don’t necessarily mean that in a good way.
I think he changed more in ep 3-6 than before.
I’ve noticed that Alastor doesn’t tap dance while walking in the 2024 series
I think they removed that because some may find it annoying.
Also I think it's because it's unneeded.
Lmao for me, the fact that I didn't even notice till you pointed it out is a testament to how unimportant a detail it was! Nice touch for sure, but I don't think I was the only one who wasn't aware haha
Alaator was definitely a lot more low-key in the pilot then he is in the show. I'm not sure which one i prefer. On one hand Alastor is much more interesting when he's being really subtle, but on the otherhand he has a lot more memorable moments as a result of being more bold in the TV show. I dont imagine hes be well remembered from the pilot alone but stuff like his song with Vox or eating a dead deer is super memorable.
I think his character is mroe unique in the pilot but his new personality lers him have a lot more fun character moments that honestly feels like a worthy trade off
1:23 why do I actually relate to this line!?!? 😭😭😭
What i miss the most is the bizarre effects that appear when he goes mad like in 0:24 or when we see husk for the first time, The new ones are a bit too polished and '''''correct'''''''
1:31 Tumble down line....
Makes my toes curl in sheer pleasure at his voice, good golly makes me shiver like im in a blizzard
2:51 That voice makes me shiver and MAN, does it feel good to be looked at like that.
hello, horny office? i'd like to file a report
Bro, you good? 😂💀
@@ZanderEditz_ Apparently, Tall, classy, eccentric men with voices like that with red and black hair do it for me.
This character lately has.... Well caused some inner searching.
Oh dear.
@@Dodsodalo some really gay stuff right there apparently...
tbf the firs one feels like when you just meet someone and wants to show your best side. This new one just feels like we know him for quite some time, but not well enogh yet, that we still get glimpses of a silly side.
The only thing i feel that change is that on the series, people can easily get under his skin.
Uhh, not really lol. The only time Al got genuinley mad was when he felt threatened by Lucifer, and when Husk brought up his leash.
@@flap.d.jack247 Those are the exact instances where people easily got under Alastor's skin.
Yes, but they were 2 very specific instances. The original commenter was saying it like just anybody could get under his skin, when that clearly is not the case. He was threatened by Lucifer being more powerful than him, and he was ashamed (?) of being on a leash@@Mainasugomi2402
Who sat down with Alastor and taught him modern slang
Angel probably
@@flap.d.jack247 or rosie
I love how at 0:18 when he says “I haven’t been that entertained since the stock market crash of 1929” you can hear a stage audience laugh. And 0:13 when he says “What a performance!” You can hear clapping.
I miss his old voice details.
In the pilot episode, Alastor tended to provoke others and play with their emotions, which gave a wonderful character to his provocative personality, in addition to the clearer voice of the pilot episode, which you can notice as the sound of a real radio, amazing sound effects and frequencies placed in the background, and the character of mystery in his actions that suggest a real devil. Therefore, I hope they repeat the character of Alastor in the second part, as they did in the pilot episode.
I still miss Edward Bosco's voice. Mainly the Bassy aspect. The new actort has the high end down pat, but the low register bosco had brought this incredible menace to him when he got serious.
I absolutely adore how dusty and… smooth(??) it looks
Alastor in the pilot was the goofy version of "fuck around and find out"
Went from -10 to 100 if he felt like it
In the series he's just a narcissistic edgelord
Still amusing
But nothing compared to the pilot
I mean the old one was kinda edgy too just more cartoony and the changes are only miner
@@richardch.4356 It just feels like the pilot version knows how powerful he is so he doesn't care much at all in general
The series version feels like he knows how powerful he is and HAS TO let everyone know most of the time
There are times where there are minimal to no differences
But the parts where it counts feel very different
For example
I can't see the pilot alastor say "Show them not to mess with the radio demon"
It's just a pilot I know
But still
Like I said these are small changes for me its not that much different
@@richardch.4356 for me it sometimes feels like he's a completely different character
That's how I perceive it
When the trailer dropped, I was completely disappointed with the voice
But now I think it really fits
But nothing compared to edward Bosco
@@SonGoku953 I understand what your saying but it not like they changed his character completely there are differences yeah but it's Allister.
I love the effect on his voice in the pilot a lot more. Makes his presence feel like there's a radio show going on and like it's the deciding factor of reality around him instead of just part of the voice design
The animation type also changed... For the pilot they used classic animation, while for the series has the vector animation (probably)
There is no difference between the animation, only the subtle differences in the artstyle. The pilot had multiple animators.
never realized how much more bouncier and dustier the pilot is than the actual show