HIFIMAN SUSVARA UNVEILED HEADPHONEs 2024 sound impressions featuring Zahl HM1 & IDEON ABSOLUTE DAC.
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- An initial first 15M breakdown of the sound characteristics of THE brand-new $8000 super flagship planar Headphones from Hifiman. SUSVARA UNVEILED 2024.
And a quick side-by-side comparison of the original Susvara.
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I AM SUSVARA, HEAR ME ROAR!! A definitive review.
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An in-depth chat with Dr Fang of Hifiman. Susvara, Shangri-La SR the story.
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First impressions out of the box within the first 15 minutes.
Using the CMA reference set up in 2024
Zahl, Ideon absolute.
Would appreciate it very much if you guys could share to where you think it might be appropriate .
The real news for us mortals is that the Susvara OG will be discounted heavily probably starting in the next few HIFIMAN sales. Anyone want to bet at what price? I'm thinking $2800 USD new, $1800-2200 refurbrished, maybe $2400 openbox....
Glad to see your channel growing. I always enjoy your opinions, thanks~
@@harackmw 🐅❤️
Awesome review brother!
easier to drive than the earlier version which was a nightmare to drive sounds good,a much needed improvement.
@@edwardbit8225 also as we go through the testing phase, I’m hoping we get higher SQ on the lower category of equipment as well, SUS has always been a very deep investment and it would be good to step away from that a very small amount
Will we be seeing the Hifiman Mini Shangri-La on the channel in the near future?
What will also influence the sound over time is the slight flattening of the earpads. Brand new earpads always sound slightly too bright in my experience (I just bought a new pair for my Susvara OG, and it’s *very* apparent),and will warm up a bit when they sink into the shape of your head for better seal. Can’t wait for your further experiences with it!
@@Godbluffer yes, this is actually quite accurate. My most extreme experience was with. Liric
@@ConvinceMeAudioI'm not surprised. The difference can be huge! And since your old Susvara's earpads may have actually flattened out too much over time, you may currently be comparing apples and oranges, so I'd recommend getting a fresh set of stock Harmony pads for your Susvara OG and wear them in for a bit, simultaneously with those of the UV, *or* you could use the new UV pads on both the OG and the UV - if the fit is identical - although switching the pads from one headphone to the other and back may be a bit cumbersome in practice. :D
Good lord ..given the source chain and the quality of the Sus ‘ …you’d have to try and make it sound “bad”..and in say bad in quotations ..because it’s in a league of exceptional performers .🎭
Thank you for this 👍
Can the questyle cma 15 still drive 'em shiny cans?
5:58 you pushed the drivers to the abolute limit indeed by destroying them 😂 , sry koji I had to do that joke , this is indeed the funniest story in my entire headphone journey ;D I bet you laughed aswell later with your friends xD
@@x32i77 oooo I understand where you’re coming from, this does not refer to volume LOL. I should be more careful with my words, I’m talking about equipment and resolution. Haha my listening is no higher than ADB most of the time 70 to 75, LOL, I wonder if that’s the misunderstanding, no I don’t listen loudly I can’t tolerate it personally.
@@ConvinceMeAudio I know that you are not listening loud . It was an accident , everything is fine 🙂 shit happens , but super funny story
Could you try this on bliss, a26. That’s a popular chain for susvara owners nowadays. (And maybe with a primaluna pre amp but that’s not as popular)
Koji I'm sure that you have already thought of throwing it on tubes! May I ask what your test tracks are from the Converting Vegetarians (2003?) album?
@@giorgosapo4508 of course, remember this is just a test first 15 minutes,
Let me get you a few tracks
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@@ConvinceMeAudio Thank you very much 😁 🤝
I wonder how it compares to top estats like Shangri-La Sr, HE-1 and Aperio. Maybe it has a better value?
@@Justin-xk7yj I think it has serious potential, might be a little more resolving still, but I’ll put it into the test and let you know
I'm liking your detailed and comprehensive approach. Curious to know how this one wil sound off speaker taps, so I hope you will cover that in your review too. My OG Susvara is attached to AIC10 speaker taps - for my ears the only way to truly unleash the Susvara. Using Lina dac. Cheers!
@@alexismasset I will definitely check, I will reach out to Dr Fang as well to see if the driver can take the voltage as well, not only that I will test it out with the AIC 10 taps
And where is the DS Tungsten review?
After six months, (I placed an order on December 23, 2023), I received my SS Tungsten on June 18th, 2024.
I have been burning them in for about 80 hours as of this writing - and listening to them too.
My chain:
Gustard A26 DAC
Burson Soloists 3XP with Supercharger 3A and the new V7 opamps.
Balanced inputs and balanced outputs
Other headphones I use on this setup:
• Meze Empyrean, Hifiman HE1000 v2, DCA Aeon Closed X, AKG k702 (modified) (Austria edition)
I have over 8,000 songs in FLAC format.
• Jazz, soundtracks, classical, house, hip-hop, reggae, beatless, lounge, rock, world, R&B, et, et, pretty much everything except K-pop & country.
Impressions:
• Driving the Tungsten is not an issue with my setup. Of all the headphones I’ve tried, the Tungsten is the only pair I had to use high-gain. I’ve been comfortably listening at levels between 40 and 70 out of a max level of 99 on the Burson. Yes, this is a lot of power/voltage.
• The sound is balanced and musical. Extremely enjoyable. They sound more realistic than any headphones I’ve heard -> am I listening to live music?? Details stand out. Bass is strong, clean, and impactful. Male and female voices come thru clean and are placed where they should be. Separation is great. Details shine.
• Every genre sounds great. These are extremely enjoyable and comfortable to listen to.
• I could not be more happy considering the value-to-performance and FUN the Tungsten (combined with the Burson and Gustard) offers.
Update: 7/1/2024 After hours of listening, the Tungsten is, by FAR, a more enjoyable experience than I have ever heard. Enough said!
@@oblio44 unfortunately I got mine from mimic and they are only getting to orders from December. I ordered in February. I have to send it back to get customized. I have a Ferrum OOR and flux mentor. RME ucxii is the dac
@@oblio44 that's only the SS version.
🎉🎉
Not a word about that this unit died shotly after you received it. You are not part of the Hifiman marketing team but a reviewer and customers (especially potential early customers) should know if even a review unit dies.
@@amaya897 this video was shot way way before that, it will be explained what the problem is when I know further information the problem could’ve been at my end, I don’t like spreading misinformation not until I know the facts
Obviously it will be part of the review otherwise I wouldn’t have shared it on Facebook Headfi would I LOL, please don’t question my integrity again
@@ConvinceMeAudio I see. I doubt that problem was at your end considering how often Susvaras die on their customers. With exposed driver community is very reserved in regard of the new Unveiled design. Thanks for your work in any case, I still think reviewers should be more straightforward about issues of companies and not cover for them. Hifiman is a problematic brand in this regard.
@@amaya897 my discretion is not to protect companies, my discretion is in regards to my own knowledge and giving accurate assessment for you guys, I’m not until I’m 100% sure, like my reviews, will I put things on video but I did put my concerns into the communities forums to declare that there has been a little issue with Chanel should be resolved. I have a fresh unit arriving momentarily, and I’m waiting to get feedback from the lab for the other one, and then this will be addressed in the upcoming video first of all that I will publish in the next few days in regards to this unit running on lower end equipment than the original video, and then discussing if any other units go through the same problems in the full review
But your concerns have been taken into consideration, and be assured I do not protect manufacturers that’s not my job
@@ConvinceMeAudio I am sure Hifiman PR team will come jp with a good explanation for why a reviewer unit dies. In any case I understand your position and again thanks for your work
Is there more tonal weight to Sus2 than to electrostats in general?
@@Berkanann exponentially, yes, except the couple of outliers where I think they do an incredible job such as he-1 aperio and bravura
Otherwise it only takes the characteristics of resolution and speed, not the tonal density and weight or lack of
Damn, after my covid experience i tend to really struggle with crisp or bright or shrilly sounding headphones - obviously going to wait and see how your opinion is going to change over time, but for now ... Slughtly worried. Also considering the immanis, but those are even harder to get
@@firegon2288 the slightly brightest sounding headphone is only in comparison to the original SUS, the unit like the original has a tendency to follow the chain you put it on, and like a chameleon changes drastically according to what the system is and how good it is, and what resolution it’s at, but it will sustain the characteristics and is extremely easy to drive compared to before
@@ConvinceMeAudio I wonder if this is why you rarely hear anyone claiming they can run the end game HIFIMANs on topping gear....
🍄Converting Vegetarians mentioned 🍄
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I've got to say that I lost interest after it was stated that this review was done on an $80k setup - I simply cannot relate!
Fair!
@@oblio44 you really shouldn’t, if you would like to know what SUS unveiled characteristics is like.
because it’s technicality is there to be heard and you will be getting some version of that
It will be tested on everything. Don’t worry this is just the first 15 minutes of testing.
I just needed to see what the drivers could do
🤦🏻♂️
@@dzemoski45 ? 😂
@@oblio44 any specific equipment you had in mind that you would want it tested on?
Let me know what set up you will have in mind, also it’s a good comment and put a few things into perspective in regards to initial impressions, I’ve never done a video like this before, and maybe I should’ve balanced it out with the ferrum stack 🐅
I assumed it would be the Headphones that would be the main focus for everybody and be curious about how far I could go
But I will bear this in mind for future impressions thanks again
My man reviewed these like a champ!! In most cases, you want to spend about twice as much on the amp as the cans and twice the cost of the source as the amp. Nicely done😎
@@PickanPop this was just the first out of the box impression, I just wanted to see what the drivers were capable of, the full review will cover everything on the sound like the original SUS review. I can get hold of.
@PickanPop Oww man, if only, if you're not spending four times as much as the chain component below, you may as well just not bother, you can't even hear value.
I wont buy it because the driver breaks way too easy . I mean you destroyed the Susun ( Susvara Unveiled ) yourself by placing those cups wrong . Its a super funny story by the way :DD
Dont be ashamed , shit happens xD
@@x32i77 no, it did not break because you put the cover on the cups the wrong way round LOL there is no interaction between it and the magnet, that comment on HEDDFI was somebody misunderstanding and taking the comment and running away with it he has now corrected it, don’t be silly you cannot damage drivers like that
The company are not stupid to create a cover that interact with a driver LOL. They’re just pieces of metal that covers the dust, and it’s held in place by the magnet of the driver, there is no interaction.
It’s simple QC for that unit I think
But we will see when the results are back from the lab
@@ConvinceMeAudio yeah yeah okay then 👍🙂 can't wait until you receive your new model 🙂
@@x32i77 it’s here. It arrived a couple of hours ago, I’m listening. 🐅
@@ConvinceMeAudio enjoy my friend 😊👍 can't wait for Immanis comparison
Guy, take off your sunglasses, please!