Instead of people being like "We totally care about the original" just say "Yeah this is gonna be our own take on it" Lying in promotional material holing to sell it to mor people will just get more angry people to refund it.
If you look up the careerz of the leads, the answer would actually be no, they had zero involvement with any DR game before 4, they didnt even work for the studio before DR4. So the answer actually is no they did not
He's a straight white male, so of course the Canadian game studio had to make him look bad. Like when he tries to fist bump the strong intelligent black wahmen and they make him behave like an idiot
@@liamcollinson5695sure because all great things should always come to an end because "this one was bad" We got 3 good games, a mediocre to bad one, and a terrible one. This series is more than salvageable.
imagine if dead rising 4 gets redconned as a dead rising movie based on frank wests story that even he hated or said something like "it wasnt cancerous to watch but it missed the mark so much to what i actually did in that mall all those years ago" hell maybe make frank an old guy with him having a grown son with his own family. "old man frank"
@@Shift_Salt yeah but at the same time not every franchise can go on forever. Things end one way or the other regardless, plus we got pretty solid ports so its not like the whole series is lost media or sth like that
Not even dev, everyone in interviews were just talking heads put in front of cameras to lie. The real devs when interviewed regret this game and said CV was a miserable company to work at.
At this point I just want a dead rising remake in the likes of the RE remakes. Dead rising 1 is my favorite game of all time and dead rising 4 shattered all hope that the series would be revived 😭
As much as I’d love a RE2R style remake of Dead Rising 1, I don’t trust any modern day developers to not try and censor or change any “problematic” material from the original game
@@GustEdgeOfficialI can see what you’re saying but I think the only “problematic” part of the original was the Cheryl photoshoot. Capcom has been on a hot streak in the past few years so if it were to happen I have faith it’ll be good
@@GustEdgeOfficiali have no idea what you're going on about, capcom made chief irons even more fucked up and less cartoonish than the original. If anything they might make psychos even more fucked up.
@@SpAC3GH0sT100nah that wasn't problematic she literally asks frank to do it because she's a model, and beauty models do like doing photoshoots. So if you're in a zombie apocalypse and you're worried you might not make it out and want to leave something behind may as well lean into your strengths and call the guy who's literally a photographer to help.
@@GustEdgeOfficial There is literally no "problematic" material in the first game. It's not like Frank ever looks and the camera and says "Hey, gay people don't deserve to have rights!" or anything like that so there is nothing to censor or remove.
what kills me about this game is how much they hype about frank being in it except that he is nothing like frank from the OG game. he acts so differently that he might as well be a different character entirely
Am I the only one who was very dissapointed that you couldn’t play the free roam and story in co-op? Because DR3 was such a blast to play with a friend.
16:54 the problem I have with their statement saying they needed Frank to sound more grizzlied, or sounding more older, is that it can be possible with the same voice actor. RE2 remake and re4 remake is the same dude, but because of the writing and the voice actor able to use his talent to make the character sound and seem more mature, it works
If they ever did make a Dead Rising 5 I wanted 4 to be retconned into being a crappy made for tv movie that’s supposed to be a “sequel” to Frank’s book. Frank wrote the script or at least approved of it as a quick cash grab, It’s all there - Frank feels more like a generic action movie hero with bad quips and catchphrases - Frank doesn’t look or even sound like Frank so it could be some actor - Going back to Willamette for an incredibly contrived reason is lazy writing for both a video game and movie. - Him turning into a zombie only for it to be cured is so stupid and pathetic it could only happen in a bad “Hollywood ending”
This is actually similar to a few ideas floated around some years back on the Dead Rising Reddit. One person suggested that DR4 should be retconned into a terrible movie and that Hank East was an actor hired to play Frank but the project turned into a complete joke when they pushed the real Frank out of the project kinda like how Dragon Ball evolution turned out after pushing out the original creator. lol
It’s crazy they tried to make Frank grizzled when the fact he is a unique character BECAUSE he is not someone that raised themselves to be strong and grizzled. The charm of his character is that he’s a old nerd journalist that is a bit sassy but a decent human being. To me he kinda has an Ada Wong type of appeal where he always tries to collect himself and figure out what has to be done no matter how troubled he is. If they wanted a grizzled tough protagonist, Chuck Greene was literally right there. Of course…. he shouldn’t be written with the same writing Frank got in DR4.
ive never understood how they made nick in dead rising 3 and he was like the chosen one out of all the orphans and they seemed like they were going somewhere with the story and had all these harvest zombies then the game returns with this shit and it doesnt correlate at all to whats just happened in the dead rising 3
@@Yoshinator5000I either went through true achievements or one of the Deadrising clubs on Xbox and was able to farm it with someone else as well. I’m just happy that I never have to play this garbage game ever again, it legit ruined my all time favorite franchise. The good thing though is that at least now I have all the Deadrisings 100%.
Idk why but watching this reminded me of that odd port of the original Dead Rising on the Wii called Chop till you Drop The one that ran on a modified version the RE4 Wii editions engine Anyways I enjoyed the vid and hopefully you’ll have a good Christmas
Dead Rising 4 was a game that felt like it was striving to be mediocre and managed to fall short of even that. An absolutely miserable way to end the series.
Exactly, the cheesiness did not feel forced in the old games. DR4 devs said, lets just make Frank a retard who tries to act like a influencer. It would have been more badass to just have him act the same, stuck in his older ways/methods contrasting the modern social media stuff.
Resident Evil 4 could have also struck a good balance between survival horror and action horror, as well as Leon's character development, but it didn't.
Dead Rising is one of my favorite game series ever. DR1, DR2 and Off the Record are some of the best games ever imo. I would even say DR3 was good, not great but good. DR4 was just a disaster. I hated it so much with how it ruined Frank and its stupid retcons. Never even played Frank Rising. The only thing I sort of like about 4 is its Christmas theme and even then that is not enough to bring me back. I hate how it killed the series.
they turned dead rising into a mindless zombie killing game with no stakes. ruined existing characters and lore. etc. this game was literally made in 1 year, Vancouver were forced to scrap everything and start over. the pitch to bring back frank and willamette was the reaction to capcom japan making them scrap their current work to make a more traditional dr game. (plenty of vids covering it on yt, it was being called climber i think). they went out of their way to recast franks VA because "frank is older now", even though tj rotolo was actually right around the same age as frank apparently.. gameplay wise every single thing is streamlined or removed, from available weapons on the ground to survivors and "maniacs". bugs and glitches everywhere, horrible color, constant crashes, online was always a mess. dr4 is a 3/10 if it was not a dead rising game it still would get a 4.5/10 for everyone who just "wants to kill zombies mindlessly" or "don't care about a story or lore" etc. that is exactly why every other dead rising game let you do just that, fail a mission in dr1 and 2? well click continue and you can mindlessly wander the malls. otr added sandbox mode with challenged for single player and coop. on top of dr2 and otr having full story mode being fully coop as well. TLDR: dr4 is trash, it was rushed to be made in 1 year, script rewrites constantly. if you just want to kill zombies play literally any other dr game, or left4dead2 or dying light 1.
Players who hate the timer when the games actually tried to accommodate them: "This series is so hard, I wish I could just kill zombies without a timer." 1 also had infinity mode which was a harder experience but not that different than OTR's sandbox mode.
@@Shift_Salt i swear people have really short attention spans and just don't read what's right in front of them lol like bro it says right there! continue playing 🤯
Look how they slaughtered my boy😭 Frank was neutered down to a "generic new age" Somehow a whole new character ...And exactly what my worst nightmares had in mind ruined my favorite zombie killer in games when dead rising 1 and even 3 was not even bad to..it is sad to me that xbox had the rights to dead rising 3 but it got a bad rep due to xbox promoting the Xbox Kinect original Xbox one (which I own still with DR3) it's fun at first but it's such a dumb niche feature that it gets laughable.
Capcom vc devs had multiple passion projects being built behind the scenes. Im pretty sure they were told to churn another DR out. But I do know they worked on a more cinematic/ dark/ moody DR that was supposed to take place in Mexico on day of the dead. No idea what happened to it
@@theoneandonly06 capcom Vancouver shut down. A lot of talented people lost their jobs cuz they were forced to throw dr4 together last minute. Part of the reason the ending was partially locked behind dlc & a ton of items couldn't be interacted with. Had no time for refinement or polishing. A lot of those devs didn't think dr4 was going in the right direction & weren't too enthusiastic about adding exo suits. But the corporates up top were convinced they knew better than the devs. The skeleton for the game probably still exists but a different studio would have to flesh it out. Tonal shift would've been deadrisings version of RE switching to first person after fans demanded more horror than action. Somewhat of a soft reboot. Wouldn't be surprise to see a full reboot soon.
@@TG-pq9zf I wouldn’t mind a reboot but I’d prefer if they just erased what happened in DR4 or make it like a parody within the universe like someone else suggested. But I do love the idea of a more serious tone shift, feel like that would really help with reviving the series.
Dead Rising 5 was going to give Katey psychic zombie powers so I really doubt it would've been any better. As for what happened with CV, during the development of 3 and later 4 they wanted to pitch a couple new IPs to Capcom JPN and both were rejected because Capcom felt they would be too ambitious to fund and CV didn't have a good track record in terms of budgeting and turning a profit. CV bled money for Capcom so until they could really prove Dead Rising could be a hit series they weren't going to budge. However one factor people neglect in both 3 and 4 is Microsoft, Microsoft got heavily involved in the creative process of 3 and 4 even moreso than Capcom themselves. The "Darker and grittier" direction one of the games was taking was I believe an earlier build of 4 called "Climber" and it was heavily influenced by The Last of Us as Microsoft wanted a LoU equivalent on their systems to compete with Sony. When Capcom heads got involved and saw what CV presented them they were furious because it was nothing like a dead rising game anymore. So no, Dead Rising 4 didn't "only have one year" dead rising 4's development was wasted on a totally different direction that wasn't like the series at all pushed heavily by Microsoft who were providing CV additional funding ever since 3. And ever since 3 CV upper management has been increasingly terrible and the devs were pretty openly miserable about their jobs and said they didn't blame Capcom JPN for taking the actions they did with the company.
Having no psychopaths in it should’ve been enough to tell me not to buy it. RIP my all time favorite franchise, here’s to hoping it can somehow make a comeback one day.
Dude your editing and talking points were genuinely great! Looking forward to watching more vids from you. As a massive fan of DR1 and 2/OTR I'm so glad I dodged the bullet with this one, I still remember the outrage when it was announced that TJ Rotolo wouldn't be returning to voice Frank despite his openness and clear enthusiasm to come back and voice the character but in the long run I'm glad he didn't, this game feels like a waking nightmare with it's cringe fanfic tier writing and TJ keeping away from it, for me, was for the best.
Apparently Vick doesn't changed her clothes for 20 years. Thats how they know its her. Also, Capcom been doing this shit with every release. They destroyed Marvel vs Capcom, then Resident Evil, then Dead Rising and the list goes on.
@chandllerburse737 Revived how? They just started beating a dead horse at this point. RE7 is the worst of the franchise. Doesn't even look or play like a RE game. Then there is the "REMAKES" like Capcom doesn't even understand what this word means, the games are all reboots, which made every game released after the classics complete nonsense lore wise. They managed to destroy every single character in the franchise, from Ada to Jill, to Chris and even fucking Alissa. The IP has no soul anymore.
@@abnnizzyI really don't know how you can say the series has gotten worse when we got shit like 5,6, Umbrella Chronicles, ORC, etc. There are worse Resident Evil games, there have always been worse resident evil games, the current games whether to your liking or not are better made and have more care put into them than many other titles new and old alike. They may not be better than all the classic games but that doesn't mean they're bad.
@@Shift_Salt 5 was ok. 6 had outstanding writing at least. Umbrella Chronicles was awesome, they expanded the lore without disregarding the classics, which is what the so called remakes should've done. The other spin off are only that: Spin Offs. ORC can be enjoyable if you take it for what it is: A what if scenario. Now, what did RE7 done for the franchise besides destroying Chris a character and having the most uncharismatic protagonist of all time? With a story that is connected to the other games by a thread? And the remakes that shitted all over the classics? RE4 Remake was the fasted refund I've ever did. The original is 100% better.
This game being Christmas themed made me really hate it even more and frank being hank east just because they wanted a new actor made me hate it far more.
I think this game was the drop that forced Capcom to change direction, and focus on making, ya know, good games. And it seems it has been working; MH world, DMC 5, RE, heck,even Dragon Dogma is back with a sequel. I hope Dead Rising eventually returns as well.. And maybe some old IPs
No that was Resident Evil 6 for capcom themselves, after that was received poorly they let the last few RE projects that they greenlit get released then reassessed their priorities with RE7, the remakes and so on. Dead Rising 4 was a CV problem, and CV was a problem for Capcom because they kept wasting money and not turning a profit. Hence why they finally pulled the plug on them.
@@Shift_Salt CV was a problem for Capcom because CV kept wanting to do other things than churn out Dead Rising games. DR4 wasn't even supposed to be a Dead Rising game but the Capcom executives saw it and basically flipped off CV and then told them to make it into DR4.
Am I really the only one here that genuinely had good memories of this game? Granted I haven’t played it since its release but man I remember thoroughly enjoying this game especially because of the Christmas vibe!
It didn't, it was confirmed higher ups at CV specifically didn't consult him or offer for him to return. They wanted to recast him from the beginning, probably because they thought he wouldn't be good for the "material" they gave Frank in this game
A great companion vid for this is Matt McMuscles Wha Happun: Dead Rising 4. While this goes through this game, his vid goes through the bts stuff that happened involving Capcom Vancouver, Capcom Japan, and Microsoft. It'll explain.....alot.
Very often when Canadian game studios take on an established property, they make a game that is worse than the previous installments. Like when Eidos Montreal made the final Tomb Raider reboot game. Shadow of the Tomb Raider was so much worse than the previous two games. Canadian studies seem to be sub-par in many cases.
Unpopular opinion: DR4 to me is...fine. Worst game in the series, but on it's own, just a mere distraction Not a horrible experience, but I definitely felt like I needed a better use of my time.
It wasn't fine, it was a glitchy, ugly mess that was so poorly put together that the first game in the series is more technologically superior than it. It is objectively a bad game, even the stupid golf game was glitchy and stupid.
@@MysteriousTomJenkins Like I said, Unpopular Opinion. I'm aware that the game is poorly made, but I still got something resembling enjoyment, even if it was sparse compared to the older entries. Still, I wouldn't recommend this if you or anyone is a diehard fan of the series because, sparse enjoyment or not, this is still the worst game in the series.
A game needs to be more than "passably entertaining at times" to even be "fine" Like, nearly any bad game experience can be squeezed for "yeah I'm kinda having fun" That's the baseline, not a sign of any real quality.
@@Shift_Salt That's kind of what I was doing. Again, even though I some fun moments with it, I still could've found much better uses for my time. Still, Frank Rising was nice distraction, the exosuits were pretty cool, and I still got a laugh or two from this so it's not a total slog to get through.
What if Dead Rising 4 is in an alternate universe in the Dead Rising series? it would make sense because Frank is basically not the same character as in the other games and there's a lot of alternate universes in other pieces of media as a cliché at this point so it would make sense that it wouldn't even be the same reality; This version's Frank never actually covered wars and only remembers Willamette because he was one of the residents of the town and Chuck is absent from this universe entirely.
My family ruined December for me last christmas, I don't think I'll every speak to them on the 25th ever again. Plan on walking around town in full cowboy get up. Better to make strangers happy than my family, what could be funnier than a guy dressed weirdly?
Here's how to fix the plot in this game. frank is a photography teacher like he is in the game, but he's found a passion for teaching a new generation of journalists. With Vick who Frank has a soft spot for and tries to mentor her, but she desperately wants a scoop so frank and her argue about what being a reporter is really about, leading to the events of the outbreak and the game. I think it would have been a solid direction to take Frank's character. So basically change some stuff around, fix the gameplay to make it like the previous games and give Vick the unlikable personality that hank east has in this game to develop her as a character. That would require passion though, something the devs of this game clearly lacked.
LORD. This is such shit. It's the Saint's Row reboot before the Saint's Row reboot. 😒 Love this video though! Your disdain for this game is well deserved
the most needed improvement of the old DR games is that it needs to be fully voice acted and not text boxes. It is difficult to read the tiny text boxes while dodging zombies every 15 seconds. DR1 was the worst offender.
My issue of the game is the categorised weapons so now instead of being able to pick up anything and throw it at the zombie for a good laugh you're not even able to do that anymore instead you have to find specific throwing weapons you can't melee with your guns anymore and it just takes away the variety
Everyone caulder was talking all I had in my head was planet of the apes. So much so every time he was on screen I’d just say “ zombie not kill Zombie” doesn’t he actually yell no as well? I haven’t touched it since release
i would give this game another chance... if it wasnt for everyone in the city the game takes place in deciding to dress as christmas elfs at the same time... i mean it never ends... there are millions of christmas elves... its down right tragic...
Me as a kid/teen seeing obese frank having DR2 OTR as my first game but seeing all of DR1. "Look how they butchered my boi" Me seeing DR4 cuz of Vanoss . Who is everyone and why are they fighting Santa? Me seeing this very video "Ok now they actually butchered our boi"
I remember the lil side game with the protag from 2 Frank was constantly reassuring him and making sure he was OK. Capcom, you're doing good now just do us a favor and reboot the first game with an explorable Map and Town.
Resident Evil 4 could have also struck a good balance between survival horror and action horror, as well as Leon's character development, but it didn't.
After enjoying the hell out of dead rising 3; I was so hyped for the release of dead rising 4 and it was so fucking awful I literally couldn’t even come near to finishing it
Resident Evil 4 could have also struck a good balance between survival horror and action horror, as well as Leon's character development, but it didn't.
Also forgot to mention the remember the first game came out when Bayonetta Dante's Inferno and DMC Devil May Cry remastered collection all came out it isn't as prominent in the first two games but damn if it isn't noticeable it's just it tries so hard in the fourth game to do everything that the first two games had and it ends up making it look weird when you crank it all up to 11 I mean yeah the game was originally not supposed to be taken as seriously but still taken seriously but now it's just why
Even tho i have the frank riding dlc i gave frank the good ending imo which is him becoming a zombie and just letting him rest at this point after all he’s been through rip frank cant wait to see you reincarnated back to dead rising 1 reboot hope they dont butcher this timeline or game 😩😩😩😩
capcom japan gave capcom Vancouver only a year to make the game and every game was made by completely different people which didn’t help things. rushing them for a christmas release really screwed this game. but the staff that worked on this game were idiots.
1. No Capcom did not give them one year, they wasted a lot of dev time trying to make it a last of us clone before scrapping and starting over. 2. Not every game was made by different people, staff gradually left and new people were brought on. 1 was all Capcom, 2 was part capcom devs and mostly Blue Castle(CV) with Keiji Inafune overseeing it, 3 was just CV devs and some people from Blue Castle who were still with CV at the time, DR4 initially was being worked on by an older team of CV before they left after the project sat in development hell and CV higher ups decided to make two teams to work on 4 and 5 simultaneously only for 4 to be burdened by the same higher ups forcing the new devs to stick to old gimmicks and 5 was just cancelled after 4 flopped. 3. The devs who worked on the projects were victims of bad management from CV higher ups, they know the game was bad and are disappointed having worked on it. All the blame is on CV higher ups with this one, and THEY are who lied through their teeth about the game in pre-release interviews. All of this information has been documented in various videos and posts/interviews online.
"We're returning to the roots of Dead Rising", dr4 is the farthest thing from what dr is. BUT, they did release the dr1+2+otr remaster on september 12th 2016. a little under 3 months before dr4 released. they knew dr4 was not a good dead rising game, so they rushed out ports to satisfy people who want an actual dead rising game..
How can they claim Frank is back without looking like him or sounding like him? God i pray for a reboot, good video bro
Probably because it wasnt actually Frank orginally before a bunch of guys in suits came in and said "Just call him Frank who cares"
or no, how about just leave it alone and stop trying to reboot everything lol
I would love a ps5/xbox one updated true to the orginial Dead Rising remake with updated graphics 🖤
@@darian1819shut up meg
He looks like a cheap wannabe cosplay of Negan lol.
"We're returning to the roots of Dead Rising", my ass. The only game I can think that lied as much in the campaign advertising was Halo 5.
The "epic" fight between Chief and Locke was a 2 minute cutscene at the beginning of the game. I remember being like wtf that's it?
You were a kid when Dead Rising 4 came out?! How old are you then?
@@key0777 who said anything about being a kid?
That sounds a lot like the "We made this with full respect to the original source" from thundercats roar creators
Instead of people being like "We totally care about the original" just say "Yeah this is gonna be our own take on it"
Lying in promotional material holing to sell it to mor people will just get more angry people to refund it.
Dead Rising 4 feels like a CW show version of what they thought Dead Rising 1 was.
Lol, that is a good description for it.
i really hope it gets redconned one day with dead rising 5.
i just wanna see frank be annoyed someone produced this based on his story.
Frank West is pretty much Homer Simpson in this game. CV missed the mark so much that it makes you wonder if they even played any of the other games.
If you look up the careerz of the leads, the answer would actually be no, they had zero involvement with any DR game before 4, they didnt even work for the studio before DR4. So the answer actually is no they did not
He's a straight white male, so of course the Canadian game studio had to make him look bad. Like when he tries to fist bump the strong intelligent black wahmen and they make him behave like an idiot
discount Ash Williams from Evil Dead and Michael from GTA V
@@chris_player2 We have "El Jefe" at home...
@@middlesiderriderstop making it about race dude...
It's just cringe writing.
I preordered dr4 and got a collectible snowglobe that was so poorly made the water inside it spilled out
I pre-ordered that version then returned it for a full refund 8 days after getting it but got to keep the snow globe and steelbook.
Damn...
the only thing we can wish for is that they reboot and bring back that classic dead rising feeling
Nah I would rather they just left it alone for once
@@liamcollinson5695sure because all great things should always come to an end because "this one was bad"
We got 3 good games, a mediocre to bad one, and a terrible one.
This series is more than salvageable.
imagine if dead rising 4 gets redconned as a dead rising movie based on frank wests story that even he hated or said something like "it wasnt cancerous to watch but it missed the mark so much to what i actually did in that mall all those years ago" hell maybe make frank an old guy with him having a grown son with his own family.
"old man frank"
@@Shift_Salt yeah but at the same time not every franchise can go on forever. Things end one way or the other regardless, plus we got pretty solid ports so its not like the whole series is lost media or sth like that
Lol nope just a second remaster
I like when the bearded soylent drinking dev told me "Frank is Back"
Not even dev, everyone in interviews were just talking heads put in front of cameras to lie. The real devs when interviewed regret this game and said CV was a miserable company to work at.
At this point I just want a dead rising remake in the likes of the RE remakes. Dead rising 1 is my favorite game of all time and dead rising 4 shattered all hope that the series would be revived 😭
As much as I’d love a RE2R style remake of Dead Rising 1, I don’t trust any modern day developers to not try and censor or change any “problematic” material from the original game
@@GustEdgeOfficialI can see what you’re saying but I think the only “problematic” part of the original was the Cheryl photoshoot. Capcom has been on a hot streak in the past few years so if it were to happen I have faith it’ll be good
@@GustEdgeOfficiali have no idea what you're going on about, capcom made chief irons even more fucked up and less cartoonish than the original.
If anything they might make psychos even more fucked up.
@@SpAC3GH0sT100nah that wasn't problematic she literally asks frank to do it because she's a model, and beauty models do like doing photoshoots. So if you're in a zombie apocalypse and you're worried you might not make it out and want to leave something behind may as well lean into your strengths and call the guy who's literally a photographer to help.
@@GustEdgeOfficial There is literally no "problematic" material in the first game. It's not like Frank ever looks and the camera and says "Hey, gay people don't deserve to have rights!" or anything like that so there is nothing to censor or remove.
what kills me about this game is how much they hype about frank being in it except that he is nothing like frank from the OG game. he acts so differently that he might as well be a different character entirely
I always thought this series deserved better.
we all collectively agree
THIS NEVER HAPPENED AND ITS NOT CANON
This game likes acting like the previous 3 with the exception of certain details from the first game, don’t exist
Am I the only one who was very dissapointed that you couldn’t play the free roam and story in co-op? Because DR3 was such a blast to play with a friend.
16:54 the problem I have with their statement saying they needed Frank to sound more grizzlied, or sounding more older, is that it can be possible with the same voice actor. RE2 remake and re4 remake is the same dude, but because of the writing and the voice actor able to use his talent to make the character sound and seem more mature, it works
Dead Rising 1 was way ahead of its time
If they ever did make a Dead Rising 5 I wanted 4 to be retconned into being a crappy made for tv movie that’s supposed to be a “sequel” to Frank’s book. Frank wrote the script or at least approved of it as a quick cash grab, It’s all there
- Frank feels more like a generic action movie hero with bad quips and catchphrases
- Frank doesn’t look or even sound like Frank so it could be some actor
- Going back to Willamette for an incredibly contrived reason is lazy writing for both a video game and movie.
- Him turning into a zombie only for it to be cured is so stupid and pathetic it could only happen in a bad “Hollywood ending”
This is actually similar to a few ideas floated around some years back on the Dead Rising Reddit.
One person suggested that DR4 should be retconned into a terrible movie and that Hank East was an actor hired to play Frank but the project turned into a complete joke when they pushed the real Frank out of the project kinda like how Dragon Ball evolution turned out after pushing out the original creator. lol
It’s crazy they tried to make Frank grizzled when the fact he is a unique character BECAUSE he is not someone that raised themselves to be strong and grizzled. The charm of his character is that he’s a old nerd journalist that is a bit sassy but a decent human being.
To me he kinda has an Ada Wong type of appeal where he always tries to collect himself and figure out what has to be done no matter how troubled he is.
If they wanted a grizzled tough protagonist, Chuck Greene was literally right there. Of course…. he shouldn’t be written with the same writing Frank got in DR4.
Frank in this bears a strong similarly to the Frank from that 2015 Dead Rising TV movie. Wonder if there is a connection.
Well the guy who pushed for Frank's change in personality and voice also was heavily involved in the movies.
So probably.
ive never understood how they made nick in dead rising 3 and he was like the chosen one out of all the orphans and they seemed like they were going somewhere with the story and had all these harvest zombies then the game returns with this shit and it doesnt correlate at all to whats just happened in the dead rising 3
I remember when this came out i was hyped but i was disappointed so bad, i replayed the first one again to remember how good this series was
The more I see of old Frank the sadder things get thinking about the new "Frank".
What about remake Frank?
100 percenting this game was a very painful experience.
Especially if you had to restart multiple times due to bugs like me😂
The golf dlc was the worst lol
@@theoneandonly06 I ended up meeting somebody by pure luck online for that, and we ended up "boosting" all those achievements lol
@@xbeliefs4242 ended up finding a glitch so I could fall and lose half my health and live because I was max level
@@Yoshinator5000I either went through true achievements or one of the Deadrising clubs on Xbox and was able to farm it with someone else as well. I’m just happy that I never have to play this garbage game ever again, it legit ruined my all time favorite franchise. The good thing though is that at least now I have all the Deadrisings 100%.
As someone who hates the franchise for its rushed gameplay and timers, this was a welcomed change of pace.
The setting is what makes this so awkward if you play this pre-winter
Idk why but watching this reminded me of that odd port of the original Dead Rising on the Wii called Chop till you Drop
The one that ran on a modified version the RE4 Wii editions engine
Anyways I enjoyed the vid and hopefully you’ll have a good Christmas
Dead Rising 4 was a game that felt like it was striving to be mediocre and managed to fall short of even that.
An absolutely miserable way to end the series.
Dead rising 4 is a hollywood adaption
god bless the cheesy puns in old rising games
Exactly, the cheesiness did not feel forced in the old games.
DR4 devs said, lets just make Frank a retard who tries to act like a influencer. It would have been more badass to just have him act the same, stuck in his older ways/methods contrasting the modern social media stuff.
That basically only happened in 2 though.
yup @@Shift_Salt
I always thought they were trying to make Frank look like Michael from GTA v
Cool video. Fingers crossed for a reboot…
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This game insults the Dead Rising series the same way Saints Row 2022 is a insult to the previous Saints Row games
Resident Evil 4 could have also struck a good balance between survival horror and action horror, as well as Leon's character development, but it didn't.
Resident Evil 4 very much insulted Resident Evil franchise aswell.
Saints Row 3 is the insult for Saints Row games actually.
@@White927 What is bro yapping about
@@romancatholicgameing The truth.
Dead Rising is one of my favorite game series ever. DR1, DR2 and Off the Record are some of the best games ever imo. I would even say DR3 was good, not great but good. DR4 was just a disaster. I hated it so much with how it ruined Frank and its stupid retcons. Never even played Frank Rising. The only thing I sort of like about 4 is its Christmas theme and even then that is not enough to bring me back. I hate how it killed the series.
To be fair many of 4's issues are just issues 3 had. Especially reconning previous plot elements to justify the current story being told.
Ugh...
Frank west looks like GTA Michael
they turned dead rising into a mindless zombie killing game with no stakes. ruined existing characters and lore. etc.
this game was literally made in 1 year, Vancouver were forced to scrap everything and start over. the pitch to bring back frank and willamette was the reaction to capcom japan making them scrap their current work to make a more traditional dr game. (plenty of vids covering it on yt, it was being called climber i think).
they went out of their way to recast franks VA because "frank is older now", even though tj rotolo was actually right around the same age as frank apparently..
gameplay wise every single thing is streamlined or removed, from available weapons on the ground to survivors and "maniacs". bugs and glitches everywhere, horrible color, constant crashes, online was always a mess.
dr4 is a 3/10 if it was not a dead rising game it still would get a 4.5/10
for everyone who just "wants to kill zombies mindlessly" or "don't care about a story or lore" etc. that is exactly why every other dead rising game let you do just that, fail a mission in dr1 and 2? well click continue and you can mindlessly wander the malls. otr added sandbox mode with challenged for single player and coop. on top of dr2 and otr having full story mode being fully coop as well.
TLDR: dr4 is trash, it was rushed to be made in 1 year, script rewrites constantly. if you just want to kill zombies play literally any other dr game, or left4dead2 or dying light 1.
Players who hate the timer when the games actually tried to accommodate them: "This series is so hard, I wish I could just kill zombies without a timer."
1 also had infinity mode which was a harder experience but not that different than OTR's sandbox mode.
@@Shift_Salt i swear people have really short attention spans and just don't read what's right in front of them lol like bro it says right there! continue playing 🤯
They turned frank into a garbage bin Ash Williams
Did not even realize this game existed
Dead Rising 4 is a disappointment. It killed the series and Frank 😢
Look how they slaughtered my boy😭 Frank was neutered down to a "generic new age" Somehow a whole new character ...And exactly what my worst nightmares had in mind ruined my favorite zombie killer in games when dead rising 1 and even 3 was not even bad to..it is sad to me that xbox had the rights to dead rising 3 but it got a bad rep due to xbox promoting the Xbox Kinect original Xbox one (which I own still with DR3) it's fun at first but it's such a dumb niche feature that it gets laughable.
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To be fair they did this in DR3 too
Yeah 4 is just a lot of 3's issues but even worse.
I didn't even know there was a Dead Rising 4 lol. News to me! Great video
You forgot the freaking running zombies . I hate them when they're grab you it's so annoying
Weird that they looked at Dead Rising 1 and decided Frank is known for making constant terrible wise cracks
Capcom vc devs had multiple passion projects being built behind the scenes. Im pretty sure they were told to churn another DR out. But I do know they worked on a more cinematic/ dark/ moody DR that was supposed to take place in Mexico on day of the dead. No idea what happened to it
Damn are you serious?!? That would’ve been so cool. Hopefully if we ever get a DR5 one day they go back to working on that.
@@theoneandonly06 capcom Vancouver shut down. A lot of talented people lost their jobs cuz they were forced to throw dr4 together last minute. Part of the reason the ending was partially locked behind dlc & a ton of items couldn't be interacted with. Had no time for refinement or polishing. A lot of those devs didn't think dr4 was going in the right direction & weren't too enthusiastic about adding exo suits. But the corporates up top were convinced they knew better than the devs. The skeleton for the game probably still exists but a different studio would have to flesh it out. Tonal shift would've been deadrisings version of RE switching to first person after fans demanded more horror than action. Somewhat of a soft reboot. Wouldn't be surprise to see a full reboot soon.
@@TG-pq9zf I wouldn’t mind a reboot but I’d prefer if they just erased what happened in DR4 or make it like a parody within the universe like someone else suggested. But I do love the idea of a more serious tone shift, feel like that would really help with reviving the series.
Dead Rising 5 was going to give Katey psychic zombie powers so I really doubt it would've been any better.
As for what happened with CV, during the development of 3 and later 4 they wanted to pitch a couple new IPs to Capcom JPN and both were rejected because Capcom felt they would be too ambitious to fund and CV didn't have a good track record in terms of budgeting and turning a profit.
CV bled money for Capcom so until they could really prove Dead Rising could be a hit series they weren't going to budge.
However one factor people neglect in both 3 and 4 is Microsoft, Microsoft got heavily involved in the creative process of 3 and 4 even moreso than Capcom themselves. The "Darker and grittier" direction one of the games was taking was I believe an earlier build of 4 called "Climber" and it was heavily influenced by The Last of Us as Microsoft wanted a LoU equivalent on their systems to compete with Sony.
When Capcom heads got involved and saw what CV presented them they were furious because it was nothing like a dead rising game anymore.
So no, Dead Rising 4 didn't "only have one year" dead rising 4's development was wasted on a totally different direction that wasn't like the series at all pushed heavily by Microsoft who were providing CV additional funding ever since 3. And ever since 3 CV upper management has been increasingly terrible and the devs were pretty openly miserable about their jobs and said they didn't blame Capcom JPN for taking the actions they did with the company.
Having no psychopaths in it should’ve been enough to tell me not to buy it. RIP my all time favorite franchise, here’s to hoping it can somehow make a comeback one day.
Dude your editing and talking points were genuinely great! Looking forward to watching more vids from you.
As a massive fan of DR1 and 2/OTR I'm so glad I dodged the bullet with this one, I still remember the outrage when it was announced that TJ Rotolo wouldn't be returning to voice Frank despite his openness and clear enthusiasm to come back and voice the character but in the long run I'm glad he didn't, this game feels like a waking nightmare with it's cringe fanfic tier writing and TJ keeping away from it, for me, was for the best.
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Frank devolved not evolved
Please give dead rising one more chance don’t let the flame die out
Yess it's like Bethesda and fall out we know what it could be and what it was please
Probably would have gotten a better reception if it didn't include an updated Frank West for a... Modern Audience 😒
Apparently Vick doesn't changed her clothes for 20 years. Thats how they know its her.
Also, Capcom been doing this shit with every release. They destroyed Marvel vs Capcom, then Resident Evil, then Dead Rising and the list goes on.
@chandllerburse737 Revived how? They just started beating a dead horse at this point.
RE7 is the worst of the franchise. Doesn't even look or play like a RE game. Then there is the "REMAKES" like Capcom doesn't even understand what this word means, the games are all reboots, which made every game released after the classics complete nonsense lore wise.
They managed to destroy every single character in the franchise, from Ada to Jill, to Chris and even fucking Alissa. The IP has no soul anymore.
@@abnnizzyI really don't know how you can say the series has gotten worse when we got shit like 5,6, Umbrella Chronicles, ORC, etc.
There are worse Resident Evil games, there have always been worse resident evil games, the current games whether to your liking or not are better made and have more care put into them than many other titles new and old alike. They may not be better than all the classic games but that doesn't mean they're bad.
@@Shift_Salt 5 was ok. 6 had outstanding writing at least. Umbrella Chronicles was awesome, they expanded the lore without disregarding the classics, which is what the so called remakes should've done.
The other spin off are only that: Spin Offs. ORC can be enjoyable if you take it for what it is: A what if scenario.
Now, what did RE7 done for the franchise besides destroying Chris a character and having the most uncharismatic protagonist of all time? With a story that is connected to the other games by a thread? And the remakes that shitted all over the classics?
RE4 Remake was the fasted refund I've ever did. The original is 100% better.
@@abnnizzydo you actually believe that Resident Evil 6 had outstanding writing? Thats crazy and I wish you the best in your insane life
This game being Christmas themed made me really hate it even more and frank being hank east just because they wanted a new actor made me hate it far more.
It's Wrank Frest in Bread Drising Bored.
I think this game was the drop that forced Capcom to change direction, and focus on making, ya know, good games. And it seems it has been working; MH world, DMC 5, RE, heck,even Dragon Dogma is back with a sequel.
I hope Dead Rising eventually returns as well.. And maybe some old IPs
No that was Resident Evil 6 for capcom themselves, after that was received poorly they let the last few RE projects that they greenlit get released then reassessed their priorities with RE7, the remakes and so on.
Dead Rising 4 was a CV problem, and CV was a problem for Capcom because they kept wasting money and not turning a profit. Hence why they finally pulled the plug on them.
@@Shift_Salt CV was a problem for Capcom because CV kept wanting to do other things than churn out Dead Rising games. DR4 wasn't even supposed to be a Dead Rising game but the Capcom executives saw it and basically flipped off CV and then told them to make it into DR4.
The way you explain stuff is hilarious😂 love the videos man, you earnt a subscriber😂🙏🏻
I liked that the time limit was gone since I was allowed to go at my own pace without messing something up.
It’s widely accepted that this is an imposter posing as Frank
Am I really the only one here that genuinely had good memories of this game? Granted I haven’t played it since its release but man I remember thoroughly enjoying this game especially because of the Christmas vibe!
You’re not the only one
Terrence Rotolo did voice William Burkin in RE2 remake, maybe that had something to do with him not coming back for DR4.🤔
@chandllerburse737 He not only did voice work for Burkin, he also did motion capture for both his human & mutated forms.
It didn't, it was confirmed higher ups at CV specifically didn't consult him or offer for him to return.
They wanted to recast him from the beginning, probably because they thought he wouldn't be good for the "material" they gave Frank in this game
"Me being neive and a stupid twat" Hahahaha 😂🎉❤
I’d like to think it’s canon that Hank East is the main protagonist of Dead Rising 4 not Frank West because he was on vacation in Hawaii or something.
I had no idea there was a 4th game
A great companion vid for this is Matt McMuscles Wha Happun: Dead Rising 4. While this goes through this game, his vid goes through the bts stuff that happened involving Capcom Vancouver, Capcom Japan, and Microsoft. It'll explain.....alot.
Very often when Canadian game studios take on an established property, they make a game that is worse than the previous installments. Like when Eidos Montreal made the final Tomb Raider reboot game. Shadow of the Tomb Raider was so much worse than the previous two games. Canadian studies seem to be sub-par in many cases.
Unpopular opinion: DR4 to me is...fine. Worst game in the series, but on it's own, just a mere distraction
Not a horrible experience, but I definitely felt like I needed a better use of my time.
It wasn't fine, it was a glitchy, ugly mess that was so poorly put together that the first game in the series is more technologically superior than it. It is objectively a bad game, even the stupid golf game was glitchy and stupid.
@@MysteriousTomJenkins Like I said, Unpopular Opinion. I'm aware that the game is poorly made, but I still got something resembling enjoyment, even if it was sparse compared to the older entries.
Still, I wouldn't recommend this if you or anyone is a diehard fan of the series because, sparse enjoyment or not, this is still the worst game in the series.
A game needs to be more than "passably entertaining at times" to even be "fine"
Like, nearly any bad game experience can be squeezed for "yeah I'm kinda having fun"
That's the baseline, not a sign of any real quality.
@@Shift_Salt That's kind of what I was doing. Again, even though I some fun moments with it, I still could've found much better uses for my time. Still, Frank Rising was nice distraction, the exosuits were pretty cool, and I still got a laugh or two from this so it's not a total slog to get through.
Dead Rising 4 is more Saints Row than anything else.
What if Dead Rising 4 is in an alternate universe in the Dead Rising series?
it would make sense because Frank is basically not the same character as in the other games and there's a lot of alternate universes in other pieces of media as a cliché at this point so it would make sense that it wouldn't even be the same reality; This version's Frank never actually covered wars and only remembers Willamette because he was one of the residents of the town and Chuck is absent from this universe entirely.
My family ruined December for me last christmas, I don't think I'll every speak to them on the 25th ever again. Plan on walking around town in full cowboy get up. Better to make strangers happy than my family, what could be funnier than a guy dressed weirdly?
Underrated channel, like the Chris video 👍🏻
Well said. I especially agree with that Dead Rising, despite of the silly elements, always had a serious story.
And your edits are really well done.
_"The best thing Dead Rising 4 ever did, was making sure that Dead Rising 3 wasn't the black sheep of the franchise..."_
Thank you for saving me money on this one. Was considering buying it but definitely not going to now.
2016? Has it really been that long already?
Here's how to fix the plot in this game. frank is a photography teacher like he is in the game, but he's found a passion for teaching a new generation of journalists. With Vick who Frank has a soft spot for and tries to mentor her, but she desperately wants a scoop so frank and her argue about what being a reporter is really about, leading to the events of the outbreak and the game. I think it would have been a solid direction to take Frank's character. So basically change some stuff around, fix the gameplay to make it like the previous games and give Vick the unlikable personality that hank east has in this game to develop her as a character. That would require passion though, something the devs of this game clearly lacked.
Low key this reminds me of how Ace Attorney 5 and 6 handled Phoenix's character, but worse.
Seems to be an overall Capcom problem.
LORD. This is such shit. It's the Saint's Row reboot before the Saint's Row reboot. 😒 Love this video though! Your disdain for this game is well deserved
nah the SR reboot was far worse. at least DR4 had fun zombie killing. theres not a single redeeming quality about the SR reboot
I hate the fact that I asked for this gane for Christmas. It was just god awful, and I wish this game had never been made.
the most needed improvement of the old DR games is that it needs to be fully voice acted and not text boxes. It is difficult to read the tiny text boxes while dodging zombies every 15 seconds. DR1 was the worst offender.
We got our wish ;))
My issue of the game is the categorised weapons so now instead of being able to pick up anything and throw it at the zombie for a good laugh you're not even able to do that anymore instead you have to find specific throwing weapons you can't melee with your guns anymore and it just takes away the variety
Everyone caulder was talking all I had in my head was planet of the apes. So much so every time he was on screen I’d just say “ zombie not kill
Zombie” doesn’t he actually yell no as well? I haven’t touched it since release
It is literally just "Planet of the apes but zombies"
i would give this game another chance... if it wasnt for everyone in the city the game takes place in deciding to dress as christmas elfs at the same time... i mean it never ends... there are millions of christmas elves... its down right tragic...
Santa's complete workforce was wiped out.
Me as a kid/teen seeing obese frank having DR2 OTR as my first game but seeing all of DR1.
"Look how they butchered my boi"
Me seeing DR4 cuz of Vanoss . Who is everyone and why are they fighting Santa?
Me seeing this very video
"Ok now they actually butchered our boi"
I remember the lil side game with the protag from 2 Frank was constantly reassuring him and making sure he was OK.
Capcom, you're doing good now just do us a favor and reboot the first game with an explorable Map and Town.
Case West with Chuck and Frank yeah.
1:03 that killed me 💀😭
great vid man can’t wait for DRDR
This game pretty much put Capcom Vancouver out of existence
CV was always costing Capcom money, they were already festering this was just their last wet fart before death.
I was laughing from the emo cat appearance. Hope your channel blows up man
this was a really good video, subscribed.
This game honestly broke my soul. Sucks to see what they allowed to happen to dead rising
Resident Evil 4 could have also struck a good balance between survival horror and action horror, as well as Leon's character development, but it didn't.
After enjoying the hell out of dead rising 3; I was so hyped for the release of dead rising 4 and it was so fucking awful I literally couldn’t even come near to finishing it
I’ve covered wars you know
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What an underrated gem of a vid! :)
DR4 is a game that is better forgotten among the annals of bullsh*t game releases...
Resident Evil 4 could have also struck a good balance between survival horror and action horror, as well as Leon's character development, but it didn't.
That intro got me laughing.😂
og frank has a ash Williams kind of attitude
Bad Ash Williams rip
joe "nickles" should move on to making baby mobile games. his thought process with making this game is insanity
Also forgot to mention the remember the first game came out when Bayonetta Dante's Inferno and DMC Devil May Cry remastered collection all came out it isn't as prominent in the first two games but damn if it isn't noticeable it's just it tries so hard in the fourth game to do everything that the first two games had and it ends up making it look weird when you crank it all up to 11 I mean yeah the game was originally not supposed to be taken as seriously but still taken seriously but now it's just why
Dead rising 4 : Farcry from dead rodding
Even tho i have the frank riding dlc i gave frank the good ending imo which is him becoming a zombie and just letting him rest at this point after all he’s been through rip frank cant wait to see you reincarnated back to dead rising 1 reboot hope they dont butcher this timeline or game 😩😩😩😩
probably unpopular but i enjoyed the gameplay of this game actually have really fond memories didn’t care for the story but they had some cool stuff
capcom japan gave capcom Vancouver only a year to make the game and every game was made by completely different people which didn’t help things. rushing them for a christmas release really screwed this game. but the staff that worked on this game were idiots.
1. No Capcom did not give them one year, they wasted a lot of dev time trying to make it a last of us clone before scrapping and starting over.
2. Not every game was made by different people, staff gradually left and new people were brought on. 1 was all Capcom, 2 was part capcom devs and mostly Blue Castle(CV) with Keiji Inafune overseeing it, 3 was just CV devs and some people from Blue Castle who were still with CV at the time, DR4 initially was being worked on by an older team of CV before they left after the project sat in development hell and CV higher ups decided to make two teams to work on 4 and 5 simultaneously only for 4 to be burdened by the same higher ups forcing the new devs to stick to old gimmicks and 5 was just cancelled after 4 flopped.
3. The devs who worked on the projects were victims of bad management from CV higher ups, they know the game was bad and are disappointed having worked on it. All the blame is on CV higher ups with this one, and THEY are who lied through their teeth about the game in pre-release interviews.
All of this information has been documented in various videos and posts/interviews online.
"We're returning to the roots of Dead Rising", dr4 is the farthest thing from what dr is.
BUT, they did release the dr1+2+otr remaster on september 12th 2016. a little under 3 months before dr4 released.
they knew dr4 was not a good dead rising game, so they rushed out ports to satisfy people who want an actual dead rising game..
Idk about anyone else but I really enjoyed the mini golf dlc
1:38 that’s how I felt about it