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I am just burned out by the sheer number of new sets.
There are more sets out there than Rudy videos at this point.
@@simonthekindcutthroat6324 Definitely feels like especially if you count secret lairs and commander deck sets.
I really miss the Ixalan block and everything before it. Did not realize what a good formula that earlier era was using.
How does a MTG set "wear" you out if you don't buy it? Lol MTG nerds complain about everything.
@@jessicastevens538 Because it still affects the metagame? Do people saying things like this even think at all... (also destroys stores and the secondary market)
Rudy should make an OF called "Rudy's Crack," and it's just videos of him cracking packs
Pack opening ASMR
Look above market price is a clean word I like to say people are throwing away money so a middle man can be successful giving him a bigger platform to preach ideas that favor guys like him, very human on both sides but ehh I'm just some poor, dont listen to the poor people that don't care about your money ,trust the guys that need there bank account numbers to go up to get that sweet sweet dopamine release
@@Duransurik Damn bro, where is your "sport car"?
Topps destroyed the original model of baseball cards in the 80s and 90s but the 1950s topps base sets are still nearly priceless. There will never be another Alpha / Beta and those cards will never lose their value entirely.
Add Arabian Nights to that
@@aaron11217 plus Legends and antiquities.
@@Ragnarok691 Legends cards are a dime a dozen. You could still buy cartons of those things at cheap prices back in the 2000s when sets like Ice Age were getting rarer.
@@Chris-ey8zf sure but I still love them. It's all overprinted compared to Alpha and Beta
Unlimited too to a certain extent
"Does Hasboro have the ability to reduce the value of Magic to zero?" Yes.
Magic will never get to “zero” nothing will ever get to zero…at some point the price point will get so low someone will take a shot…Ford stock got down to $1.5 in 2008…and than people started to buy the hell out of it. I’m sure they are glad they did.
Exactly, a key distinction would that this is not WOTC but straight up Hasbro
people must not know what caused the video game crash of the 80s.
They could definitely cause a big value impact but they absolutely cannot reduce the value to zero. Even if they printed a hundred thousand cases of new Beta cards I don't think they could do it.
Hell, even in a post apocalyptic US where things turned into Mad Max, you'd have some guy (probably Rudy) who was smart enough to bunker up with some playsets of ABU and some rich asshole (also Rudy?) would pay handsomely for them.
Original cards will never go to nothing 🤭
I don’t buy or play magic, i just watch Rudy videos
This is the way.
Always have been
What draws us here, brothers?
reformed mtg addict personally
I'd wager fewer than half of this channel's subscribers actually play Magic. The channel is entirely centered around Magic cards as financial investments.
The old cards will still be rare and desirable even if reprinted. People will want the old ones to collect or bling out their decks. The reserve list does nothing now except stroke investors ego and gatekeep cards from the majority of players.
They will still drop in value.
L take😂😂
@@damo9961 Oh no! My $1000 Chains of Mephistopheles will only be worth $500! 😩Someone think of the investors!
@@babe9961 "I like the reserved list because Rudy told me to."
@@WormxHarvester naw b.
I see new Rudy video, I click watch. It’s that simple.
Pmuch
Me too!
Same haha
Same and I have no interest in magic, but I still watch this creepy man.
Where does it say "watch" that you can click on?
As someone who spend 70.000$ form 2016 Eldritch Moon to Throne of Eldraine and tons in Legacy Decks. I can say the reserved List was untouchable before Wizards farted Magic 30th.
Now it lost its special thing. They showed its not as untouchable anymore.
"I bought a few..." This, in Rudy terms, means one bathroom full of Secret Lairs
He's definitely set the FAB vid investment house up as a stronghold to stash shit at. Whole BEDROOMS full of shit.
I'm in the "artwork reserve list card" opinion, but with 5+ versions of every new cards that sounds hardly feasible now.
I don’t know what necessarily happened during the sports card collapse of the 1990s. But I FEEL that Hasbro is taking MTG right to the edge of whatever the 1990s card collapse is.
na even as shitty as it is with hasbro, they were releasing 5x the amount of product annually for the power 4 sports in the 90s NHL/NBA/NFL/MLB my dad who has at least 7 figures in sports card and memorabilia never shuts up about it 25 years later.
Same thing that is happening to magic. I grew up through sports card collapse of 1990's. I was into it but one day it just became to much to keep up with and like Rudy said "it just wasn't cool anymore". Friends had super rare cards they wanted to trade and all of a sudden I could care less. Burnt out, sick of it. Soon I found out I wasn't alone and a new group formed and took over. We moved on to other things until sports cards were never spoke of again.
Edit: Funny enough the few die hard collectors even moved on to things like Magic because it was new and exciting again. I expect many Magic fans will or already have done the same.
People realized that trading cards were just overpriced pieces of cardboard with no inherent value. It took 20 years and pandemic lockdowns for people to start forgetting that.
anything sportsball is cursed to die at this point
Let's remember marvel cards as well. I still have my marvel masterpieces 1995 still love the art thought.
The worst thing a company can do is break the illusion. The illusion of continue worth vs trouble. The illusion of caring for the customers. Like i used to play one of those early korean mmorpgs. Started spending like $5 a month. Later i bought into the VIP items & in the end i spend a good $200+ a month. Game was getting old & half my friends had left the game. Then one day i bought 10x cheapo something & only saw 9 in my cluttered inbox. Items had to be manually delivered by the devs, so i politely send a customer ticket if they had missed one. Got a rude answer. I probably misscalculted that is true. But the answer broke the illusion. Made me ask myself why i was even there. I stopped playing the game instantly. The worst thing a company can do is breaking the "the normal" pace/monotony of their spending customers. That is alos why everyone is trying to get you to sign up for subscriptions.
i love when rudy just goes on tiny tangets in the videos
@@ChristopherSmithNYC FOLKS!!! 💯🤣
in any conversation thats where the best good stuff is.
Rudy: _"It's Magic 30 time!!"_
Timmy: _"No! Rudy! No!!"_
“It’s Rudy time”
I think many people are just trying to anticipate what may happen when Wizards releases the rest of their 30th Anniversary boxes into the wild.
Hey, just wondering your thoughts on the effect on the market you'd have if you decided to sell any one set of mtg you have and also if you sold all of your mtg products.
Always appreciate the great content and hope for the best for you in the new year friend 🤙
That's *Mr.* Mark Bottomwater to you, Rudy!
Mark "belle delphine's bathwater"
No one is saying the reserve list is “going to zero”. But a lot of people are saying that Wizards breaking the spirit of its reserve list promise will put downward pressure on prices now, and likely limit growth in perpetuity going forward.
This is the way. “It’s not going to zero” is a red herring argument IMO.
Good is what I say. I don't want it to go to zero, but it could use some downward pressure.
@@MarkFillmore it's a galloping goalpost into false dichotomy
Thats good for the game honestly. Reserved list prices being high is never EVER part of what made magic successful. And if they do abolish reserve list guess what, many of those vintage cards will go UP in value. Look at the ptk imperial seal price after its reprinting for evidence.
@Mr. Joesterr oh ffs. No, that's not how this works. The argument "the original will still be worth money" is a trap. Sure, the originals having a smaller amount out there, a smaller amount of people have them. But the point remains, the lowest priced version of an item is the only version that matters, even moreso if the art is exactly the same. Just because 5 people say something is worth $1000 doesn't mean you can sell it. Meanwhile the version that is 25 cents sales multiple a day, reprinting hurts the ability to actually sell the cards.
I can't wait for the new collection set buy videos. I love hearing everyone's story and the history of cards.
It's hard to have a bull market in sealed when the singles get reprinted on a monthly basis with no end in sight with lairs and new sets. With modern Era boxes, reprints do affect the sealed prices.
I'm probably done picking up specific Reserved List cards because I've completed my objectives. I'm sure I'll get some in collections, but not going to target them any more.
I'm not sure we've hit the bottom yet -- I can see the bear market continuing -- but we'll see. But yes, the lack of competition has been nice -- acquiring my targets has been far easier and less expensive than I had planned for.
hei Rudi. I haven't been here in a while. Just passed by to tell that I'm still buying and holding to my collection. Just got three classics from Antiquities this week (Gaea's Avenger, Golgothian Silex, Urza's Miter). Still missing Blood Moon to finish The Dark, but I will get it, sooner or later. Started this journey a little bit before Covid. And it's been a pleasure to collect all this. By now I have complete sets of Fallen Empires, Ice Age, Alliances, Homelands, Mirage, Visions, Weatherlight, Prophecy, Unglued, Chronicles, Portal, Portal Second Age and Starter 1999. Still slowly trying get more cards from Legends and english Portal 3K. Best Regards and thank you for the inspiration.
It’s over for sealed mtg ain’t it….
Maybe their new products, but the older products are still a very interesting choice
@@Hekkr The Urza's block is 1000% getting reprinted. There's just too much money to be had there. Dark back I wouldn't buy because I wouldn't trust the product (those early packs are EASY to search). You do you but buying sealed MTG now is not smart. Does $600 a box for Fallen Empires sound sane to you? In 1999, we couldn't move that crap for $40 a box. Like, at ALL.
This is why we have cube
@@Hekkr agreed….
It's over for everything. Everything is going to zero. The sun will not come up tomorrow. We're just seizing the opportunity to complain as much as we can on the way down. (" -.-)
Appreciate you being one of us for a few weeks. Now back to taco benders, step sisters and failing to repair the wash/drier.
It's like all the sudden, they're viewing them as easily reprintable cardboard! I am shocked by this. It's also a big mystery why people are losing interest in a game they cannot physically play with anyone. Again, I am shocked by this. It's almost like investing millions of dollars into a highly illiquid assets puts you at the whims of all kinds of factors. Again, I don't know how anyone could have predicted this. Also, it's almost like the boomers and millennials are a finite resource because wizards is failing spectacularly at bringing in new players. Again, I am shocked by this.
So much of this resonates as a pokemon collector.
I just maxed out three credit cards on sealed Fallen Empires booster boxes!
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those will be worth gold when the SHTF
@@fsmoura your welcome am the CZcamst of this channel do well by texting me okay 👌👌
I feel like so many people are trying to collect magic now and that's why Wizards is messing up so much. It used to be that Magic was a game to play. Build a standard deck, run drafts, then play commander or modern with all the rotated cards plus some newer staples. But when COVID hit everyone started collecting for money and so Wizards printed collector boosters, Wizards printed Secret Lairs, etc. Wizards needs to go back to printing 4-5 standard sets a year plus one masters, commander or modern set. Collector boosters and set boosters need to either dissappear or have their concepts be merged with draft boosters to create a booster that has cool art cards and a chance to hit value without needing to pay an extreme premium (like how double masters has 2 rares instead of one)
I remember back when I had the entire reserve list in my deck (late 1990s). Plus Chaos Orbs. And Shaharazad! Good times!
Reserved List for Card@Specific artwork is a good approach. Protects the value of the card without compromising the game or making it impossible to new players have access to certain formats/mechanics/types of decks. an original black lotus from Alpha will always be an original black lotus from alpha, it's the same as a vintage car, like a Camaro or a Ferrari...you can't buy a new Camaro 73, you can buy a new Camaro from the current year but if you want that vintage one you'll have to find a Camaro 73 that was made in 73.
I'm not against your idea, but the car argument is flawed. A new Camero does not even look like an old one never mind be mechanically similar. I mean it's got 4 wheels, that's about the end of the similar stuff
@@davidbaker9412 >I'm not against your idea, but the car argument is flawed.
It's not really though, there's a huge market in reproduction parts for many classic cars, even complete new fiberglass bodies on new chassis with same look as the original.
Yeah, I think it should always be new artwork. I think it should always be in the new frame. They should not be able to print reserve list cards with a retro frame and I think they should always be white border
The main issue with this comparison is that magic cards hold value because of the success of the game, the comparative strength of the card, rarity compared to other cards, and complete strangers willingness to buy cardboard rectangle from eachother for large amounts of inked cloth rectangles. As the magic community shrinks, the wow factor of owning an old banned card also diminishes. As it stands magic cards, like art are a fantastic commodity to launder money.
you are the problem with mtg
The revised dual lands have cooled some, but I agree not dramatically. I unloaded a Bayou when it was a hundred or more higher. I feel like these old sets will have a build in scarcity factor that keeps their values up. That's why I'm slowly grabbing up lower alpha printings
Great video.
I only have a few reserved list cards, the ante cards.
I'm so happy I bought them two years ago, they're the coolest cards ever imo, and 30th whiffing on them puts them in another category.
Still need some duals, definitely good timing, tho times are scary.
I want to sell all of my reserve list cards to corner the market on war mammoths
Name checks out
Good stuff. Got thinking on the future. It’s going to be great. I’ve always pick and choose lightly on what to purchase/invest or to play enjoy. I love commander.
Bro. That’s a lot of merch in the back. Love it. Looking like a card emperor
*cardboard emperor
I think there are a lot of variables that come into play. [I believe that] Sealed product becomes valuable because of nostalgia; if the sense of feeling at the moment is that Hasbro/WOTC is toxic and everyone has came down off of the high that was 2020 and 2021 and walking away from MTG who is there to create the nostalgia for the sets. I would love to buy sealed, Ice Age, 4th edition, Alliances, fallen empires, Homelands, Mirage, Tempest and Visions and relive those sets again. I know if I brought sealed boxes of them that I would not be able to keep them sealed because of my attachment to the cards. I would love a digital game so that my friends and I could experience them over and over and play Shandalar every 3 to 5 years just to experience that awesomeness again.
I got black bordered power for 2$ a card from China for my future cube. Thanks for promoting proxies wotc!
So now that theyre willing to reprint reserve list cards with alternate backs, whats stopping them from printing new, eternal format only cards that are on par or better than reserve list cards?
Hi Rudy, I just got some more NM RL today and wanted to brag about it:
4 Bubble Matrix, 1 Deranged Hermit, 5 Faerie Noble, and 1 Time Spiral
Rudy - I started watching you in 2020, I got into MTG because my son developed an interest and my inner nerd totally loved it. Being my son's financial investor (lol) and learning to navigate the product, my initial views of your channel totally confirmed my growing understanding that the "sealed product" really gains value as time goes on. I am not buying pallets or anything of that scope, but for every box we open I buy one for "the shelf" and for myself, as a life long collector and dealer in collectibles, my intention is holding long term. I look forward to all of your videos, and all I can add as a comment to this current theme of "no one is buying/ investing" is that I absolutely continue to expand my investment in MTG in singles, boxes, etc. Because I love it and I know, aside from the turbulence of the day to day, the cardboard is as good as Gold. Maybe better. Also, the Reserved List ought to be expanded every January 1st.
Tried hiking and backpacking in your city? Ik it's cold, but shorts with jeans and a hooded sweatshirt with a coat really make winter hiking possible....
Awesome channel Rudy. Been a fan of the channel long time. Love the game of magic an I've been playing for about 14-15 years now. Work hard, play hard moderns been my choice of battle for a longtime being that I can never really afford cards from magics past "wish I would have start playing in the 90s lol" wizards making even just some of those cards available again would make it easier for us "newer" players to get ahold of them. Totally with ya on this.
Plus....im pretty sure reprinted reserved land's..they might look better in the new style~ who knows.
The way things is...most those reserved cards are not even getting played...they get collected and prisoned in plastic at an unreasonable demanding prices.
Making like 90% of those cards impossible to find unless you watch rudy'z channel. Great investment :)
From a players outlook.
Vintage/Legacy is holding up because of commander. A game style not even made by the creators. Game style made by fans.
cheers! Keep on collecting
We all need better lands in play!!!
What a time to TRY and learn how to play. I started in November (LATE November). And guess what? I actually DO know what you are talking about. For the most part (maybe not individual card names, but I do know the sets).
Im all down for the reserve list being expanded towards art/special frames, but we should always allow new versions of old cards to be reprinted so that they can continue to be used as game pieces without costing 1000s to obtain
Yea I'd love to play Legacy, but I dont have 4-10k for a set of lands or two.
Honestly this compromise aligns with what I want.
In a world of non-stop spoiler season, products are 'retro' the second they've released. Everything's coming up Reserved List!
How much is sealed affected by the massive reprints though. Will anyone want to buy these sets when they are old if they can pick up something new with most of the cards they want in it?
Shouldn't affect their price. What matters for old cards isn't as much the card per say but the set they are from. Generally speaking, the older and smaller the set, the higher the price. Add to that how some cards are artificially inflated because they are turned into a symbol of status (black lotus) and you create an economy where the set is what dictates the price.
When Hasbro said “reserved list” they meant “reserved for us to print at a later date”
Good! Now let’s have them actually do it already
That's the way it was intended. Reserved list cards aren't supposed to be reprinted. But, if they ever wanted to, they still reserve the right to add and REMOVE cards from the reserved list, at will. If they wanted to, they could just remove the power 9 from the reserved list, print it into oblivion, and then add them right back, and theres nothing anybody could do about it. And I honestly hope they do that. I can't afford standard because wizards charges to much for new sealed and standard rotates. I can't afford the eternal formats because the singles are way too expensive, and this is against the will of Garfield himself. Every single problem with magic right now can be traced back to one thing: This is what happens when collectors and professional investors run the entire market for game pieces. It ceases to be a game, because it's no longer fun.
@@joshuacrumley2031 just play arena..and print proxies...your logic is flawed...
@BrightForest no, there shouldn’t have been a reserved list to begin with. It was a mistake and it’s anti-new player.
@@ThunderfallFilms How is it anti-new player? How many RL cards does one absolutely need to play Modern, Standard, Kitchen Table or EDH?
It comes down to whether you want Magic to be accessible and fair or if you want it to be expensive and pay-to-win. I, for one, would like it to be a game and not an investment opportunity.
It don’t matter the cards don’t make the player, trust me still getting my butt kicked in with GC, duels, mox, even free spells like FG and DR, over $2500 decks and still couldn’t win a game, those cards help but knowing how to play means way more!! 😉
@@jtmoney606 You misunderstand the concept of pay-to-win. Player skill is irrelevant. A player can make their deck stronger by buying prohibitively expensive cards. This isn't good for any game.
On the next episode of Rudy goes insane.
I agree, they should expand the reserve list. This will also force wotc to design new stuff and not depend on the secondary market for making a good new product. This will up the value of newer products and I think will increase sales of things to come
Hell, a 5 year limit on reprinting would be helpful.
I mean 2 others and me have been heavily investing in older boxes and reserved lists consistently. You don't stop buying during a down turn. You ramp up and don't try to hit a bottom.... consistent buying is investing 101
The wife and kid's and job will have to wait there's a new Rudy the 🌮👑 video up lol...
I started watching 59 seconds after this was posted which is 10 seconds early, which we'll just call taco special.
Hasbro is aligned with Larry Fink and Jerome PowPow.... Magic: The Great Reset
iirc, the retro frame cards are actually closer to the original meaning of retro - retro simply meaning old is more of a recent phenomenon.
My method of investing into Magic sealed is to buy a draft box of each decent set. If it goes up, great and can make some money. If they don't, I still win with a fun draft for the future. The latter my original goal.
It ain’t no fun sitting on them lol like not opening a toy so you can’t play with it, I don’t know how long we got on earth but I try to live it up lol im older big reason I play the game and open about everything have fun. ah magic is a young man’s game anymore the cards and getting to Goofy to understand I got dudes beating my power 9-10 level decks with monkeys and banana tokens from jumpstart 🤦🏼♂️ I’m getting ready to switch to standard 1-1 games start seeing some old cards I grew up playing, these kids and this new commander stuff is to much for my A.D.D. To handle lol
@@jtmoney606 There's no token in Jumpstart.
I think you missed the point
Holy shit am I about to be able to plat with duel lands? HOPEFULLY!!
Once the duals were about half off I started buying
Do you store lesser wanted boxes in the bathroom
Great video Ruby
Sales going down will create opportunities. Hasblow with have to slow the new releases and do smaller print runs, which will make sealed product investable again.
Hello Rudy! Long time fan, always love your content!
As An individual that collected roughly 150 RL cards a couple years back, im honestly hopeful for the future of those truly original prints.
People who are true collectors always want the genuine thing.
In terms of enjoying this game as a game. I think more people need to be accepting of proxies, especially when we are playing for fun in the comfort of eachothers homes.
My best friend and his wife actually print their entire decks as good quality proxies to play with the rest of our friend group and it honestly just feels good to see that they are included and are not destroying their bank account just to have old or powerful cards.
As far as sealed product, hasbro, wizards, etc.
For many years now, I have purchased full boxes of cards. I enjoyed opening them with friends and family, however, I think the direction of greed that these two companies are heading is not where I want my money to go any longer.
So I decided to only purchase from friends, tcgplayer, or stores I trust in order to accumulate the collection I wish to own.
A dream that I personally have is that Wizards eventually gets sold to someone who cares about what the fans really do want for the game that we have loved for 30 years.
These are just some thoughts I have.
As always, I hope you have a solid day boss!
It doesn't matter who Wizards gets sold to or what they do. Nostalgia for older cards only lasts with the generation that first had them. Boomers are dying out. Gen X is a tiny generation. Millenials didn't start until later sets. Gen Z isn't even in the conversation. Old Magic cards are going to lose massive value if only because nobody will be dumb enough to buy them.
If the first to market thing is real, why has Ultimate Masters with the box toppers been dead money? I'm going to hang onto those boxes for the long run, but I'm curious if that is the exception or maybe the rule isn't the rule in MTG anymore.
its likely time to be a "willing buyer" but never time to be all in
And I was thinking keeping all my draft boxes was a mistake, .......whew.
I just started buying beta unlimited. My first magic cards. Was a pokemon kid, but I only really like the actually old vintage cards.
I am shifting to buying more reserved list cards over the new products.
The reason m30 failed was price.
If this was 99.99 this would have been a grand slam.
The reserved list is dead and this video and comment are cope.
Please be careful
Rudy gonna be stuck with all the inventory no one will buy when the market crashes.
I maintain he can wait until the next panic lockdown for people to go crazy for toilet paper, recycle his cardboard into that, sell TP at a premium, boom profit.
Fire wood
@@simonthekindcutthroat6324 Portal 3 Kingdoms could be the new Demo Man 3 seashells.
Fully agree with everything you've said, I'll always love magic but stopped buying years ago, It's probably seven years since I stopped buying and it's the first ten years I'll always love. I'm glad I didn't buy but even I nearly fell for 30th anniversary edition. I'm not rich by any means but I was going to blow $1000+ on having a pack and keeping it sealed. I'm glad I didn't buy though. That's not what I'm interested in.
"Retro, Rutrooo" - Scooby Rudy
when Rudy owns every magic card there is , are they still valuable?
That stands on what your definition of value is. What IS value?, valuable.
The diamond handed collectors in the hobby are the greatest security of value you could hope for.
Still buying reserve list cards. I like the cards.
i have a feeling this is definitely NOT the last magic 30th video
Rudy your doing great all it is that most people can't afford the cards and most commander players don't need them for their decks
I'm investing in sealed Rudy. I'm Canadian does that have anything to do with it?
I think it's a double-edged sword. I know with me and my friends who are newer to magic, the RL just encourages us to print proxies. Without affordable access to older, more powerful cards, we're stuck either buying standard and playing with crappy cards meant for limited, or finding a "sweet spot" in EDH/Pioneer.
If the RL was expanded, I feel like it would make it harder and harder to make new cards worth buying. Either the new cards will be better than the old ones, and tank the value, or will be way worse, and nobody who has the old stuff will want the new stuff.
Reprints give us a fair barrier to entry to powerful cards.
It's kinda a good thing bro when there is no competition, although it can be boring when you are on the top of the food chain
Still waiting on that full series on Dom collector box openings. Oh wait lmaooo
Rudy the old cards are outdated. You need to dump that crap and get yourself a modern frame Black Lotus with a back that's been printed using an HP printer from 1997.
Anything is possible. Especially when it comes to price manipulation.
People hanging onto old sealed product: how often does, let's say, a sealed box of Mirage or Tempest sells?
72 secret lairs + 24 commander decks + 7 sets/supplementals + the pioneer decks and probably a few other things I'm missing = over 103 mtg products this year so basically 2 products a week ☠️☠️☠️
It's awesome right? You can just buy what you want. Variety is good. Am I jealous of stores trying to predict demand? No. But as a consumer it's good.
@@refroggy that would require self control. Clearly mtg sales are driven by addicts.
@@refroggy How's it good when the product becomes worthless both in resale value and because people stopped playing...
@@refroggy its only good for hasbro.... stores and players get so burn out from this and I bet 75% of tcg stores die just because of this year mass fuck printing.
@@patsk8872 why would people stop playing? If MTG becomes a living card game it'll be fine. Don't let people with huge positions in cardboard ruin your good time.
Rudy, wake me up when we get the retro cardboard so my foils are flat cards and my pack to pack cards feel comparable to other games.
Rudy's moving on from Magic 30th, but will Wizards let him? Still a whole year of celebrations to go...
That's what happen when you've damaged the trust and love people had in your product.
They have opened the eyes of a LOT of people as to the fact that the cards we love and value a lot are, in the end, just stupid cardboard rectangle of no real value that Wizard can just print again at any second.
It's impossible to repair the damage done.
Solid ending there.
Is the RL cracked, though? It's at least not eroding that much any more -- and here we were thinking the cruel summer was over and prices would start recovering in Q4 2022, Q1 2023. Looks like trending sideways indeed is the new mode of okay.
I miss Rudy throwing shit. Please just throw more things. Makes me a happy Timmy.
Nearly every single set use to have something about it that made it unique.
I am in favor of ending the reserved list in its current form for all cards and implementing a new expanded reserved list where the original artwork for any rare card released is never reprinted as part of a new reserve list. Basically a reserve list for art rather than gameplay pieces. This way the first run of any art remains special without locking needed game pieces behind the reserve list. They can reprint old cards as needed for commander and other formats but there remains something special and collectible about the original first printing. Those card arts will become progressively rarer over time and give a collectability to newer players while functioning similarly to the original reserve list without the downsides.
That honestly sounds amazing. People will buy cards for the art alone. On the cheaper end, The recent painland reprints didn't tank prices; people are paying for the older classics arts. The older art is history, and it'd he great to preserve that
The reserved list is the worst thing for magic long term.
I dont buy seal product. I only buy single cards. Last time I bought sealed product was Lorwyn era.
Rudy, this is my approximation of distribution of rares in M30, so ease of math, let's say 11,000 MTG30 collectors so 44k packs (44k rares in the world) sets were thrown out into the world. 98(Junk rares being 80.2% of the rares) = 35,288 junk rares in the market. Dual lands printed "doubley" equating to another 20 slots of the rares being 15.8% of the 6,952 dauls and last but not least P9 cards being 4% to the market which is a measly 1,760 (about 200 of each P9 card) added to the market. This does not include the "old framed" cards. This is my theory on the product release %'s
I cashed out most of my ABU in 2016 and why I did not get out at the peak. I was just happy to pay of my Los Angeles property. The last time I played magic was the 25th anaverseey I remade a flash hulk deck. With 25 cards and some of my old collection and had a blast playing. The fact that there was no 30th set for me to buy and come back to was sad. I made a lot of money off magic. Maybe not Rudy money but I made some good adult money from a child investment. How ever I still think this game is a game and not an investment opportunity. I have been buying vintage cards when I see some crazy deals. But I'm not buying to invest. Just trying to rebuild my old vintage decks
I buy what I like, just happens to be cards that were made before WotC was sold to Hasbro
If they're after money, they're foolish for not expanding the reserved list to at least certain editions of cards. For example, masterpiece cards. If people knew that there were true limited edition cards in new products, it definitely wouldn't hurt sales!
I also like Bitcoin and Eth. I even like some ada, but i am a little weary of that one especially 😅
In Regards to the Reserve List: Its simple cards with trash effects are worthless and cards with good effects that see play in cEDH are worth a ton. Another note is that even though a lot of prices dropped this year the prices for reserve cards are still too high compared to before 2017 when the "investment hype" started. Its like Bitcoin it will come down soon and normalize unless people are willing to bind money forever in Reserve cards. But you would need the buying power of the world wide supply to make that happen Rudy.
If WoTC decides to abandon the Reserve List all prices will crash it doesnt matter if the card is 30 years old or not. People will buy the cheapest playable NM copy if its new for 30 Dollar instead of 3k.
My advice for anyone reading: Buy only Reserve Cards if you use them for play or have nostalgic feeling towards them but not as an investment.
One thing I've wondered is if they would ever circumvent the RL by just making better versions of the cards: tri-lands that come in untapped, tri-fetches, dual moxs, etc. They've inched closer with talismans, signets, shock-lands, triomes, and with some of the power creep going on with commanders and creatures, there's obviously some kind of planned obsolescence going on.
@@LeonBelmont1000 It technically would not violate their "promise".
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That translates to bath water. You want " Agua de tasa or chorro " the colloquial versions. Chorro means gush or stream, but we say it to mean diarrhea or watery shit stream
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Even as (primarily) a player of the game, I'm starting to move toward acquiring RL pieces. Big trades, saving small bits working toward big ticket items - I definitely see it as something earned or held onto over time. I'm definitely in the camp that the RL could be amended but should *NOT* be abolished.
The market ran out of greater fools.