New Cannondale Topstone Carbon 2022: You Won't Believe What They've Done!
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- čas přidán 2. 08. 2024
- This is the brand new Cannondale Topstone Carbon and they addressed two issues that held the previous bike back from being as good as it could have been. They've also dropped some weight and have added the SmartSense tech but only to select models. Watch on to get all the details you need to know
More info at Cannondale bit.ly/3K7wm6Y
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As an owner (and lover) of the OG Left equipped gravel bike, the Slate, I'd love to see a back to back to back of the Slate, original Topstone Lefty, and this latest iteration.
I love my yellow topstone lefty . Had a smooth 60 km forestroad ride today with a lot bad tarmac too. The damping gives comfort and safety.
I respectfully request a TopGear style mixed conditions race off between this and a Scalpel HardTail xc race rocket. Bet they end up quite similar baring the obvious different personal preference for hand position...might be wrong.
actually on rougher terrain I would expect MTB to come out on top. THere's also a quistion of the tyres. On my MTB I am running 29" x 2.5" so still way bigger than any gravel
I like it. I'm currently enjoying the heck out of my aluminum Topstone 1.
I don't have enough pennies left for the lefty. Or the other one.
My GRX 800/600 11 speed is incredible.
As are the GRX 400 brakes.
What an upgrade from my stolen Fuji Cyclocross 3.0 LE.
Loved my Fuji.
And am loving my new Cannondale.
I'll be preparing for my first bike pack adventure soon. Gotta get the rest of the kit together though.
Good times!
Thanks for the video!
Bikepacking yes! You'll absolutely love it, so much fun
Price: $7,800. I have a 2021 Topstone 1 Alloy that cost $2,150 which is kind of outrageous at that. I can't imagine needing anything "better' than that.
Some nice improvements though they are a bit pricey. Not sure why you’d need smart sense on a gravel bike but at least it’s not standard on all models. Love the yellow. Nice preview. 👍🏻
I've moved on from gravel bikes to trail bikes. The more gravel bikes I see with some sort of 'innovative' suspension I just keep thinking 'just buy a dual suspension bike'. I have my doubts on how much flex that kingpin system actually provides
I look at gravel bikes as good long distance capable commuter. For me the choice for wider tyres with a slack geometry is a plus.
Wow. I was not expecting one so soon. The geometry didn't change much, 5mm longer chainstays, the rest seems to be the same. Wish the 100g lighter kingpin was retro compatible :D
What's the handlebar bag in 7:11 ? Can't seem to find it.
What mounts did you use to add the bag to the handlebars and saddle? Also, I'm curious about the bag you used. I am a topstone carbon 3l user.
Hello,
Is the lefty 2022 different from the 2021 model.
To accept 700c instead of 650B
What was the tire clearance if you put 700c wheels in the older model?
HELLO HAMBINI FANSSSSS! (I watch your channel religiously btw David, but I like my CZcams bike drama)
What I like about my gravel bike is the simplicity. No suspensions, no additional weight, no maintenance of pricey parts. For regular gravel and off-road rides I don't need any suspension. I find my gravel bike more comfy than my former XC bike with front suspension.
Gravel bike is more comfy huh?
@@Akkiben imo yes
It looked great in 2018 but I don’t know what they were thinking that’s one ugly looking bike.
Was hoping to get a Salsa Cutthroat or Warbird GRX 600, but since they are almost impossible to find, I might go with the Topstone 3. Regular Fork. They are the same price, just wonder which frame might be sturdier, Cannondale or Salsa, long term.
„Hey look, there is a neat way, to put the front light below the bag!“
„Nevermind, let’s do it the shitty, complicated way and put a GoPro extension pole below the bars” 🤦♂️
Why is the front light not mounted in the fork crown? They have a threaded hole from the looks of it and route the cable out from the top of the downtube where the gear cables are entering. Hope the next model that comes out has internal storage in the down tube... seems like a waste of space not to do it now
Hi, can anyone say, what rear bag is on Tospstone 1 RLE?
Front fender/ mudguard? I have this bike arriving next week and really need something
Have questions: Is Cannondale Topstone Carbon 2022 Lefty 2 equipped with Shimano microspline hub?
To cover up the stupid gap where the "DumbAss" battery should be they strap a spare inner tube? That really is smart. And radar on a gravel bike? What's that for, to tell you when a rambler is coming up behind? Cannondale have really lost the plot.
I use Garmin Radar on my gravel all the time as I need to get to the forest rails first... Still Garmin IMO is better as you can easily swap between bikes and works with all major bike computers.
@@lechprotean OK I'm game and keen to learn. What do you do differently when your Garmin buzzes to let you know there is a car behind?
Nothing like a gritty inner tube when you need one!
Awesome & Thanks :)
Hambini is currently writing a response video, and giggling because he used some naughty words
I hope this is true 🤞
I am 190 cm this is fit for me?
LOVE! I want one 🙂
I have the old Topstone (2020) which is awesome, however - Cannondale won't let you attach a trailer to it (or to the 2022 version).
I know it's a non-issue for most; but I only wonder why some companies (3T, Canyon, Specialized) have no problem with attaching a trailer to the rear axle, while other companies ('Dale, Giant and others) - do have a problem with it... for me, that's one of the main points for the next gravel bike.
Carbon is meant to have strength applied in very specific directions. Having a trailer destroys all that.
There is The Roblert Axle Project. Check it out
Imagine making a frame specification that uses a wheel dish that is different than any other frame ever lmao
Not sure why the offset wheel thing is such an issue... Never even noticed on mine.
Any idea how much the lefty fork models weigh?
Claimed weight is 1,340g
Surely the rear end will twist due to the dropped stay on the drive side only?
If the lefty doesn't twist I don't see why 4 arms would.
@@endianAphones lefty’s are square! Simple mechanics the arms are different lengths so the lower ‘pivot’ is not in the same position at the root (bottom bracket)
Isn't it interesting that in 1997 most MTB fullys made the step from bushing bearings to ball bearing because of reliability and performance? And now they go back to bushings? Just to save a few pennies... :/
Any ideas on when we can expected the motorized version of these to come out?
They sell it now. Topstone Carbon neo lefty.
I'm not into the one legged fork
It isn’t going to win many awards in the looks department but if the changes are there for the right reasons and not just marketing BS then I could live with it. Smart sense makes zero sense on this bike and feels like cannondale are flogging a dead horse
hi. took my topstone carbon 3 for 1900 euros it is pretty good price I suppose but I was forced to change the tape, saddle, seat post and the wheel set with tyres. Why should I do all of this annoying things for such price?. I could not imagine who would buy it for 2800+ euros! it can't be compared to the diverge in same price category. I would definitely go for diverge but specialized decided to put on 1 front cogs for front most of the bikes except Comp version which has 2 cog on front but it costs too much.
And one more thing is the size. The topstone is extremely huge! I'm 188 cm bought Large but it is too big so I switched stem to 80mm + flipped it to upside also saddle adjustment didn't help to fit it correctly...
I'm not going to buy a new bike, I think my two bikes, road & CX, will last another 10 years at least. Why spend money when what you've got works fine? Ignore the marketing and spend your money on utility bills :)
Starting to look more and more like a mtb
Finally they removed press fit rubish.
literaly a rock can fly up and smash the frame
Finally someone said it. I was beginning to think I'm the only one worried about carbon frames and gravel. Bit of mud on the tyre, stone picked up, sticks to the mud momentarily then flung off a fraction of a revolution later, flies off, smashes into the underside of the down tube.
no cable management for this level in 2022...no way!
Oh no a Leftie.... I wonder when the first recall is 🤪
lol so Cannondale gets applauded for removing proprietary standards from ONE bike, yet the rest of their line has some sort of proprietary crap built in.
They flushed the toilet only take another massive shit.
Cannondale without BB30? What is happening... I don't even... I feel dizzy...
That bike looks like it’s designed to be ridden for a season and then tossed in a landfill. The perfect bike for cyclists who don’t love bikes.
These days the bike companies are marketing towards consumers of cycling products who do not maintain their own equipment and I guarantee you they are spending more time looking at internet ads and videos about cycling products than actually using their own perceptions through riding and working on bikes.
those one sided front ends make no sense
that type of flex isnt good, carbon will eventually fail as it gets older it continues to degrade and small micro cracks grow, thats one of its main qualities. use a dropper post or suspension post, bigger tyres, and or more padded shorts / saddle and get more travel, compliance, comfort those ways. carbon frames can easily be engineered to last forever and still lighter than alloys but bike brands dont want that. imagine if carbon frames were made to be as heavy as a high end alloy frame it literally would be bomb proof, its breaking point would be insane with no weight penalty
They build carbon wings and fuselages in the aerospace industry. You think that Boeing 737 wings would fall off in a few years?! Ok, to be honest... Boeing maybe. But Airbus certainly not. :D))))
@@DilbertMuc few yearrs?? im talking few months lol. or wait... how long did i say?? oh yea thats right, i didnt. ask the professionals in the industry tho. tahts what i would go by. carbon is very strong but like all materials does degrade and will eventually fail. pro cyclists chuck bikes after one season because they "break in" they feel as tho they loose the snappyness, and they do. look it up theres info on carbon's life, it doesnt last forever, like a ti or steel frame would if cared for properly. on the other hand if they made an existing 800 gram carbon frame 50 percent thicker/heavier then yes that would last generations. im not an expert per say, but its not hard to listen to what all the experts say and implement common sense.
@@DilbertMuc its called engineering, mostly anything can be made to last one use or thousands of years. check out your light bulbs, theyr emade to last a certain time length so you have to buy more- that is by design, same with cars, appliances, clothes, ect... its not a coincidence that warranties are usually only good right before things start to fail.... google it or ask just about anyone else. youll be ok tho
@@timtaylor9590 Read again my comment. I said I would not trust Boeing 737 with carbon wings and I certainly wouldn't board any new 737 in my life. On the other hand I have no problems boarding any Airbus with carbon wings. It's not in the engineering... it's in the engineering shortcuts demanded by the finance department. Of course there are regulators and tests, but after the 737 debacle I don't trust the testers.
@@timtaylor9590 So true. An engineer get's fired if his product survives warranty time plus some months of leeway. The other example is Miele (German producer of washing mashines). Miele had the reputation for rock solid washing mashines that would work for decades without maintenance. German engineering. The result was that Miele almost went bankrupt because once a customer bought a machine from them they will probably never see him again. His washing machine would follow him all his life until his funeral. So they had to deliberately reduce the quality in order to sell new machines again after a few years.
It better be effective because it sure ain’t pretty!
Still persisting with that stupid fork.. 🤦♂️
Paint job is terrible though.
That's an ugly ass bike right there. The rear suspension is too much effort for too little effect.
Bendy Carbon is never a good idea for frame life. The lefty forks always look so awkward, a real eye sore.
If one wants dual suspension why not get a trail bike, these half-assed compromises for top dollar are the brainchild of shifty marketing types not bike riders.
Still got a Cannondale Super V1000 from '96 and a Cannondale CAAD 8 with frames still made in the US, this current overpriced stuff is just future landfill fodder.
The ugliest, engineering-wise singularly most bullshitting bike in the World? I believe we have a serious candidate.
You Won't Believe What They've Done! - they did nothing
Um, they've done quite a lot actually...
@@davidarthur These changes do nothing to improve their bikes in comparison to Trek/Giant/Merida/Canyon, not even talking about small brands with much more value or less price. Even new(old) BSA BB will not change cannondale positions in global market, same with new synapase, hopeless brand
- They finally trashed the BB30 crap bottom bracket - the biggest source of complains about Cannondale bikes for years.
- They removed Assymetric Integration - maybe the second biggest thing about their bikes that have been putting people off for years.
- and the other stuff (geo, new pivot..)
If you call this nothing, then ok, they did nothing :) For me it's turning point and Cannondale is now back on my radar.
aka an mtb with drop bars 🤦♂️
I'd want a bit more than 30mm suspension on my mountain bike but I get where you're coming from. Can't wait to ride it and see if that is the case or not
@@davidarthur plz, choose an mtb trail to check ;)
Silly silly bike..
Pretty close to MTB!
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Cannondale bikes are just plain ugly.
Over built for gravel.
Cannondale could have solved peace in the Middle East for all I care… but this is one UGLY bike.
how do you f... talk men!!
😀😀😀
Sounds like he is drunk
don`t need the radarlight, but appreciate the bearings and the seat clamp. Have already ordered months ago: Finally, come over the desk with it...:-) thanks for the review
A great looking bike that I would have considered but a 45mm tyre limit was disappointing for an adventure style gravel bike. Others have moved onto to 48-50mm.
pay more attention. he said you can fit up to 2.1 inch tires with 650b rims.
@@nosegrindv4951 No, I paid attention but 650c is compromised and soon to be outdated technology. Specialized, Canyon and others all run 48mm+ with 700c now.
@@bdyer4606 ok, i see, thanks. im just wondering if you could briefly explain to me how 650 is outdated or compromised? thanks.
@@nosegrindv4951 Sure. Less tyre options and those that used to run 650c in a wide spec have moved to second gen frames that maintain the width but moved to 700c instead. You can see which way the wind is blowing if you see what I mean. As a sidebar, this is compounded by new products like gravel suspension forks only being designed for 700c too.
@@nosegrindv4951 More limited tyre options at 650c and if you look at brands on their recent second gen offerings such as Specialized, Giant, Ridley, Canyon, etc (as well as the new sus forks), they've moved to 48mm+ but now at 700c.