I bought a Maytag Gemini gas double oven December 2005. I love it and have no regrets. I’m 72 now and sometimes my hip arthritis acts up from bending down for cooking tall tube cakes and baking for the holidays. I use both when making 100+ cookies. I use the upper oven for majority of baking other foods. At one point I was baking so much sweet stuff that: I burnt out the gas element, I had to have the gaskets on both doors replaced, my adult daughter wasted milk down one knob that made the cooktop stop working. I’ll be sad if my gas range has to be replaced. Especially if gas ranges are no longer available.
I love this! If you have to replace it, I'd recommend the Cafe [model CGS750P2MS1] featured in this video. Whirlpool/Kitchen [who now own Maytag] also offer an updated version of the Gemini as well [KitchenAid KFGD500ESS]
I have a GE CAfe double oven just like the on in this video, with GAS top and oven and love it. This range is genius because you do not have to turn on an entire oven just to use a portion of an oven.
couldnt live without the double oven, I can cook a full size (20 lbs plus) turkey in the main oven at 325 while cooking roast potatoes at 400 in the top oven
We just renovated our kitchen and put one of these in (got the induction model) and we love it. We found the same thing between gas and induction (harder to clean, and doesn’t heat near as fast). For anyone considering a GE Cafe model induction oven they’re really great. They are expensive, but they do come on sale. We got ours 15% off, so was $3565 instead of the listed $4100.
@@w.miller7282 I’ve owned both and for me it’s not even a contest. The induction is LEAGUES better. I was excited to finally own and use a gas cooking surface when we purchased our last house two years ago. The reality was that the temperature range and simmering was awful, the cleaning was massively awful, the amount of time it took to preheat cookware and boil even small amounts of water was awful. Heat travels up the sides of the pan so the “stay cool” handles were always hot to the touch and cast iron handle covers would burn. No amount of scrubbing would EVER make it look clean. I ended up replaced it with an induction range within a year and don’t regret it. I might still consider owning a BlueStar Range-Top at some point though. 🤷🏻♂️
@@appliancesexplained you have some great points, I have to use pot holders. I have a wolf gas range which simmers great. My turnoff with induction is being limited on which cookware I use
Yeah and then when an induction oven breaks and needs repairs, prepare to open your wallet because repair costs on induction ranges are phenomenal. If GE or any other brand were to come out with an induction double oven range that passed the test of time, and were tried and true I would buy one. I have had to deal with GE getting warranty service on one of their dryers, and they are a nightmare to deal with! My dryer was in warranty, but it took them 3 months to fix it. If an induction range breaks within the warranty period, then ok fine you don't have to pay for it. But it it breaks AFTER the warranty period ends you are screwed. I would love an induction range, but not until one of the manufacturers had a reliable one that is tried and true.
I remember people coming in to replace them 20 (plus) years ago. They were always pretty upset to learn that manufacturers were no longer making them. 😕
UPDATE Nov 29, 2023: Regarding the rear oven vent issue I described below in the last paragraph. I finally bought a piece of stainless steel and cut a piece 1 inch x 12-5/8” wide and pre drilled and attached with screws covering the 3 right rear vent openings facing forward leaving the vent openings behind them facing upwards open. Now I have NO ISSUE with the exhaust blowing across the right side burners and they now only blow upwards towards. I am very surprised I cannot find other people online mentioning this issue. First one delivered had about 15 stripped screws and one oven door hinge not working quite right. Almost all of the screws along the inner panel of one of my oven doors were stripped so the inner panel/glass would move and almost completely separate from the outer door panel. A bunch of screws on the back panels were also stripped and one of the electrical wires that was supposed to be behind the small rear panel was protruding between two sheet metal panels and the wire insulated was cut through to the wire as a result of the sharp panel edges. Also the GE repair person mentioned the whole side panel of the range needed to be removed to replace the hinge. So due to the issues I mentioned here and a few other issues, they sent me a new one. The new one only had about a handful of stripped screws, all on back panels which are not as important. Both ranges sent to me had the same issues as listed in the next two paragraphs. I have the GE Cafe CC2S950 gas range. From new(2020 or 2021), the front right burner on simmer up to number 2 setting where flame is still low would cause the sensor to think the flame is out and would activate all spark ignitions of all burners 1-2 times every minute. Cannot use it on simmer. Had tech out 3-4 times for this. They tried to add a ground cable to another burner (front left burner) and it seems to have helped. ALSO a very bad design flaw is that the exhaust vent for the oven, which operates when the oven is on and for several minutes after the oven is off, located at the rear right blows horizontally across the right two burners. If you are using those burners when the exhaust is operating, the blowing air will blow out the burners unless on medium to high flame. But then the flame is not uniform and dancing all over the place due to the exhaust air flow. To some extent, it also affects the flame on the middle burners. When the rear right oven exhaust is operating, I must use something thin and upright and police it at the rear of the right cast iron grate to block the airflow if using the burners on the right. The the exhaust will blow upwards. I use my stainless steel stove top round burner covers. No fix from GE. This is my first double oven and I love the double oven. Shortly after buying this gas model (I have always purchased gas ranges on the past 35 years), I learned of the hazards (the 3 different chemicals released that are hazardous to us) of the gas fired appliances, especially appliances where you will like be close to while operating such as ranges. Had I known this earlier, I would have purchased electric.
Worth remembering that on almost all of these if you want convection/airfry, it’s only available on the LOWER oven. Want to roast some vegetables or frozen fries or chicken nuggets with the airfryer? Gotta use the bottom.
The concept of double oven freestanding ranges dates back several decades. My grandparents had a 40 inch double oven electric range, turquoise blue, dating from 1967 when they brought that house , and remained in good working order as of August 2022 when we sold the estate after grandma passed away that April. Together they raised 7 kids and life would have been far more stressful than it already was, without a double oven. Since young couples today are having fewer children on average, than say during the 1950s - 1970s, that's likely the reason double oven ranges are not as commonplace as they once were. Nonetheless they are convenient for those who love to bake, and almost a must for larger than average households.
I recommend *"Ben's Appliance and Junk"* for how to do CZcams right btw meaning you'll see a number of affiliate links selling ... you guessed it *"gas ovens, ranges"* depending on the type of product he is talking about that doesn't work...probably why your video has done so well actually.🎉🎉🎉😊😊
Thanks so much for the video!! It is so informative. I have a question - it seems like the upper oven is not convection. Does it still work for chicken nuggets and stuff... like air fryer...crispy food?
I was planning on ordering this but in induction but seems like people are complaining that the temps aren't actually what they say they are. Just ended up getting the Bosch induction industrial oven instead
Did you get installed yet? If so, how do you like the Bosch so far? I’m curious about the banking performance and how easy the oven is to keep clean without a self clean function.
@@appliancesexplained Love it glad I went with the Bosch, convection fan a little loud but I really don't care I'll take that over what others complain about with their induction range
I was surprised by his comment as it seems most folks prefer the quick heat up with a gas range top. I'm trying to get hubby to run gas so that I can get a gas range now that we are shopping for a new one.
😂 That’s because you guys haven’t cooked on Induction. Cooking with gas for me was like going back to the stone ages after having induction for so long. I’d recommend checking with your local independent appliance dealers to see if they have any live induction cook-tops on display. If they do, try to get over and see a demonstration before pulling the trigger on the gas range.
I had that Maytag Gemini oven and loved it! Yes, the large oven is low to the ground and I am 5' 1" so the arm reach into any oven is a challenge with the door open. Looking for a new range and looking for a double oven or the Samsung that converts from double to single oven.
@@taylorsee864 Thank you for that. I had not yet researched reviews but simply looked at the display. Just the hubby and I so the smaller oven would be most useful but I like the idea of a full size on the rare occasion I needed it, but if the reviews are bad it is not worth considering.
I have the Maytag Gemini I love it!!! They gave it to me used, do you now HOW to use the clean mode on the oven? I have no idea, I use the top oven a lot, i do not know how to use it but have sean the button that say clean on top and button oven.
I have a GE Profile old slide in. The bottom is on the floor. I hate it but unless i remodel I would buy another one. The convenience vs “on the floor” works.
I get what you’re saying, but if that’s your use case wouldn’t it be way better to get a couple of small wall ovens so they’re at least at waist height?
If that was your case, you would love the GE PTS9200SNSS. It’s the same dimensions of a single wall oven but has two ovens just like the range. A smaller one on top and a larger one on the bottom.
@@gagejohnson3778 not the case for me… I need full size. I just don’t see the point of putting a half oven at floor level. It was even said in this video (iirc) that it doesn’t get used much.
Yes it would but only if you’re willing to remodel your kitchen and then potentially turn off certain buyers who might perceive the ovens to be “too small”. Some kitchens just don’t have enough counter space to sacrifice for a raised oven. That said, I agree with you 100%. My next kitchen renovation will have a couple small built-in ovens that will be situated such that I won’t have to bend. This might turn off future buyers for my home but I don’t really care. 😁
Thank you for this!! So helpful. I was debating whether to get a double oven or not and after watching your video I think the double one will be perfect for me. Really hoping I can get my hands on the Café (but induction).
@@appliancesexplained grease, crumbs, dust... it will get dirty... just like that bottom drawer in a single oven. This is just poor design.. who would wast their money for a sizable miss in usage?
@@sexymisssasha I had the Maytag Gemini his mentions and it didn't get dusty and gross like a utility drawer. I loved it. Yes, a bit inconvenient to have it low for lifting a turkey, but that isn't something done often. Also, my Maytag was self cleaning.
Thanks for making this video. I am torn between the slide-in cafe double and single oven induction. Understanding that convection is only on the bottom, what can't you do in the top oven? Is there a temp restriction on top? Can it get to 500 degrees?
The upper oven has a broiler so I’d be surprised if it didn’t get up to 500. You can always check the use and care to be sure though. products-salsify.geappliances.com/image/upload/s--SDI8Pi63--/8d5313e6c50d9718de0f5fd7373300b195760694.pdf?_ga=2.252513545.1644913757.1705882537-1469228144.1705882537
Unfortunately the top oven doesn’t have convection so it doesn’t really compare from a speed/performance standpoint. I believe the lower oven does have both convection and a no preheat air-fry function though.
I bought a Maytag Gemini gas double oven December 2005. I love it and have no regrets. I’m 72 now and sometimes my hip arthritis acts up from bending down for cooking tall tube cakes and baking for the holidays. I use both when making 100+ cookies. I use the upper oven for majority of baking other foods. At one point I was baking so much sweet stuff that: I burnt out the gas element, I had to have the gaskets on both doors replaced, my adult daughter wasted milk down one knob that made the cooktop stop working. I’ll be sad if my gas range has to be replaced. Especially if gas ranges are no longer available.
I love this! If you have to replace it, I'd recommend the Cafe [model CGS750P2MS1] featured in this video. Whirlpool/Kitchen [who now own Maytag] also offer an updated version of the Gemini as well [KitchenAid KFGD500ESS]
I have a GE CAfe double oven just like the on in this video, with GAS top and oven and love it. This range is genius because you do not have to turn on an entire oven just to use a portion of an oven.
Exactly!
couldnt live without the double oven, I can cook a full size (20 lbs plus) turkey in the main oven at 325 while cooking roast potatoes at 400 in the top oven
I know right?
We just renovated our kitchen and put one of these in (got the induction model) and we love it.
We found the same thing between gas and induction (harder to clean, and doesn’t heat near as fast).
For anyone considering a GE Cafe model induction oven they’re really great.
They are expensive, but they do come on sale. We got ours 15% off, so was $3565 instead of the listed $4100.
Thank you for sharing! ❤️
I’m not a fan of induction, gas is more reliable.
@@w.miller7282 I’ve owned both and for me it’s not even a contest. The induction is LEAGUES better. I was excited to finally own and use a gas cooking surface when we purchased our last house two years ago. The reality was that the temperature range and simmering was awful, the cleaning was massively awful, the amount of time it took to preheat cookware and boil even small amounts of water was awful. Heat travels up the sides of the pan so the “stay cool” handles were always hot to the touch and cast iron handle covers would burn. No amount of scrubbing would EVER make it look clean. I ended up replaced it with an induction range within a year and don’t regret it. I might still consider owning a BlueStar Range-Top at some point though. 🤷🏻♂️
@@appliancesexplained you have some great points, I have to use pot holders. I have a wolf gas range which simmers great. My turnoff with induction is being limited on which cookware I use
Yeah and then when an induction oven breaks and needs repairs, prepare to open your wallet because repair costs on induction ranges are phenomenal. If GE or any other brand were to come out with an induction double oven range that passed the test of time, and were tried and true I would buy one. I have had to deal with GE getting warranty service on one of their dryers, and they are a nightmare to deal with! My dryer was in warranty, but it took them 3 months to fix it. If an induction range breaks within the warranty period, then ok fine you don't have to pay for it. But it it breaks AFTER the warranty period ends you are screwed. I would love an induction range, but not until one of the manufacturers had a reliable one that is tried and true.
I"m surprised that no one makes the models with the eye level ovens anymore.
I remember people coming in to replace them 20 (plus) years ago. They were always pretty upset to learn that manufacturers were no longer making them. 😕
UPDATE Nov 29, 2023: Regarding the rear oven vent issue I described below in the last paragraph. I finally bought a piece of stainless steel and cut a piece 1 inch x 12-5/8” wide and pre drilled and attached with screws covering the 3 right rear vent openings facing forward leaving the vent openings behind them facing upwards open. Now I have NO ISSUE with the exhaust blowing across the right side burners and they now only blow upwards towards. I am very surprised I cannot find other people online mentioning this issue.
First one delivered had about 15 stripped screws and one oven door hinge not working quite right. Almost all of the screws along the inner panel of one of my oven doors were stripped so the inner panel/glass would move and almost completely separate from the outer door panel. A bunch of screws on the back panels were also stripped and one of the electrical wires that was supposed to be behind the small rear panel was protruding between two sheet metal panels and the wire insulated was cut through to the wire as a result of the sharp panel edges. Also the GE repair person mentioned the whole side panel of the range needed to be removed to replace the hinge. So due to the issues I mentioned here and a few other issues, they sent me a new one. The new one only had about a handful of stripped screws, all on back panels which are not as important. Both ranges sent to me had the same issues as listed in the next two paragraphs.
I have the GE Cafe CC2S950 gas range. From new(2020 or 2021), the front right burner on simmer up to number 2 setting where flame is still low would cause the sensor to think the flame is out and would activate all spark ignitions of all burners 1-2 times every minute. Cannot use it on simmer. Had tech out 3-4 times for this. They tried to add a ground cable to another burner (front left burner) and it seems to have helped.
ALSO a very bad design flaw is that the exhaust vent for the oven, which operates when the oven is on and for several minutes after the oven is off, located at the rear right blows horizontally across the right two burners. If you are using those burners when the exhaust is operating, the blowing air will blow out the burners unless on medium to high flame. But then the flame is not uniform and dancing all over the place due to the exhaust air flow. To some extent, it also affects the flame on the middle burners. When the rear right oven exhaust is operating, I must use something thin and upright and police it at the rear of the right cast iron grate to block the airflow if using the burners on the right. The the exhaust will blow upwards. I use my stainless steel stove top round burner covers. No fix from GE.
This is my first double oven and I love the double oven. Shortly after buying this gas model (I have always purchased gas ranges on the past 35 years), I learned of the hazards (the 3 different chemicals released that are hazardous to us) of the gas fired appliances, especially appliances where you will like be close to while operating such as ranges. Had I known this earlier, I would have purchased electric.
Yes! We moved into an existing home recently that has this range. I too have noticed this design flaw. Do designers never use their own products?
*"premium product"* sells well in the USA as a premium product but yes usually as a separate item that is elevated. Great explanation as to why so.
Worth remembering that on almost all of these if you want convection/airfry, it’s only available on the LOWER oven.
Want to roast some vegetables or frozen fries or chicken nuggets with the airfryer? Gotta use the bottom.
The concept of double oven freestanding ranges dates back several decades. My grandparents had a 40 inch double oven electric range, turquoise blue, dating from 1967 when they brought that house , and remained in good working order as of August 2022 when we sold the estate after grandma passed away that April. Together they raised 7 kids and life would have been far more stressful than it already was, without a double oven. Since young couples today are having fewer children on average, than say during the 1950s - 1970s, that's likely the reason double oven ranges are not as commonplace as they once were. Nonetheless they are convenient for those who love to bake, and almost a must for larger than average households.
Actually looking for a replacement to my Gemini and considering this exact model Cafe range :). Thanks for the vid.
@@dumbledor123 Glad to help and thank you for watching!
Old ranges have 4 oven compartments
I wish it came in 36 inch! I also love the rangemaster in the Uk I wish they sold that type our size here in the US.
Is Rangemaster just another name for AGA Ranges? If so, a lot of those products are sold over here.
I wish Cafe make one of these two ovens a steam oven
I recommend *"Ben's Appliance and Junk"* for how to do CZcams right btw meaning you'll see a number of affiliate links selling ... you guessed it *"gas ovens, ranges"* depending on the type of product he is talking about that doesn't work...probably why your video has done so well actually.🎉🎉🎉😊😊
Thanks so much for the video!! It is so informative. I have a question - it seems like the upper oven is not convection. Does it still work for chicken nuggets and stuff... like air fryer...crispy food?
Can you use one of the ovens as a salamander?
I was planning on ordering this but in induction but seems like people are complaining that the temps aren't actually what they say they are. Just ended up getting the Bosch induction industrial oven instead
Did you get installed yet? If so, how do you like the Bosch so far? I’m curious about the banking performance and how easy the oven is to keep clean without a self clean function.
@@appliancesexplained Love it glad I went with the Bosch, convection fan a little loud but I really don't care I'll take that over what others complain about with their induction range
Just use gas. You can still cook when there’s a power outage
@@solomons5669Not everyone has gas
The author says it takes forever to get hot. Mine is superfast at getting hot on the range top and the oven.
I was surprised by his comment as it seems most folks prefer the quick heat up with a gas range top. I'm trying to get hubby to run gas so that I can get a gas range now that we are shopping for a new one.
😂
That’s because you guys haven’t cooked on Induction. Cooking with gas for me was like going back to the stone ages after having induction for so long. I’d recommend checking with your local independent appliance dealers to see if they have any live induction cook-tops on display. If they do, try to get over and see a demonstration before pulling the trigger on the gas range.
@@appliancesexplainedthere’s just something special about cooking with fire
@@solomons5669 Agreed… but only when it comes to cooking over burning wood or charcoal. 😜
I had that Maytag Gemini oven and loved it! Yes, the large oven is low to the ground and I am 5' 1" so the arm reach into any oven is a challenge with the door open. Looking for a new range and looking for a double oven or the Samsung that converts from double to single oven.
That Samsung has HORRIBLE reviews. I was sold on it at the store, but after doing a TON of research, I will be staying FAR away.
@@taylorsee864 Thank you for that. I had not yet researched reviews but simply looked at the display. Just the hubby and I so the smaller oven would be most useful but I like the idea of a full size on the rare occasion I needed it, but if the reviews are bad it is not worth considering.
I have the Maytag Gemini I love it!!! They gave it to me used, do you now HOW to use the clean mode on the oven? I have no idea, I use the top oven a lot, i do not know how to use it but have sean the button that say clean on top and button oven.
Can the top oven be an air-fryer? We are seriously considering this model. Thank you!
@@lisebeane8480 There’s no convection in the upper oven so you’d have to use the lower oven.
I have a GE Profile old slide in. The bottom is on the floor. I hate it but unless i remodel I would buy another one. The convenience vs “on the floor” works.
Thank you!
I get what you’re saying, but if that’s your use case wouldn’t it be way better to get a couple of small wall ovens so they’re at least at waist height?
If that was your case, you would love the GE PTS9200SNSS. It’s the same dimensions of a single wall oven but has two ovens just like the range. A smaller one on top and a larger one on the bottom.
@@gagejohnson3778 not the case for me… I need full size. I just don’t see the point of putting a half oven at floor level. It was even said in this video (iirc) that it doesn’t get used much.
Yes it would but only if you’re willing to remodel your kitchen and then potentially turn off certain buyers who might perceive the ovens to be “too small”. Some kitchens just don’t have enough counter space to sacrifice for a raised oven. That said, I agree with you 100%. My next kitchen renovation will have a couple small built-in ovens that will be situated such that I won’t have to bend. This might turn off future buyers for my home but I don’t really care. 😁
That is a really cool oven!
Thank you for this!! So helpful. I was debating whether to get a double oven or not and after watching your video I think the double one will be perfect for me. Really hoping I can get my hands on the Café (but induction).
Thank you! I’m glad I could help. ❤️
You would have to lay on the floor to clean oven !?
Honestly, it most instances it probably won’t get used often enough to get that dirty. 😉
@@appliancesexplained grease, crumbs, dust... it will get dirty... just like that bottom drawer in a single oven. This is just poor design.. who would wast their money for a sizable miss in usage?
@@sexymisssasha I had the Maytag Gemini his mentions and it didn't get dusty and gross like a utility drawer. I loved it. Yes, a bit inconvenient to have it low for lifting a turkey, but that isn't something done often. Also, my Maytag was self cleaning.
Only issue is the choice of no convection on the upper unit.
Is anyone making a (true) dual cavity 30 inch range with convection in the upper auxiliary oven?
Since you mentioned that you use induction at home, you should really do a video on induction cooktop options and their pros and cons 🙂
I absolutely should. I’m on it. 😉
@@appliancesexplained I read the technology isn’t even there yet.
How to bake a cake here?
Thanks for making this video. I am torn between the slide-in cafe double and single oven induction.
Understanding that convection is only on the bottom, what can't you do in the top oven? Is there a temp restriction on top? Can it get to 500 degrees?
The upper oven has a broiler so I’d be surprised if it didn’t get up to 500. You can always check the use and care to be sure though.
products-salsify.geappliances.com/image/upload/s--SDI8Pi63--/8d5313e6c50d9718de0f5fd7373300b195760694.pdf?_ga=2.252513545.1644913757.1705882537-1469228144.1705882537
Who is lifting a hot turkey literally from the floor after a few glasses of wine?!?!
lol
I can do it with a few glasses but any more than that and we’re having a vegetarian Thanksgiving!
Anybody know how to turn off the oven lights? The knob is turned off but the light is still on.
@@manicmurph there should be a sensor key for the oven light on the control panel.
@@appliancesexplained does it say sensor key or is it called something else?
@@manicmurph Nope. It’ll say “oven light”. On the Cafe double oven ranges it should be below the number 7 on the key pad.
I wouldn’t be able to stand up ending that far down, lol
How does the top oven compare to an air fryer?
Unfortunately the top oven doesn’t have convection so it doesn’t really compare from a speed/performance standpoint. I believe the lower oven does have both convection and a no preheat air-fry function though.
This oven has air fry capability.
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