My main is a blood elf warlock. But my first was a night elf hunter. I fell in love with Teldrassil immediately. The colors, the music, the architecture, all of it. Imo the best starting zone of them all. So it was very heartbreaking to see Teldrassil burn. No bueno Blizzard 😢
I played a Forsaken back in Vanilla through Cata, but with all the changes to everything between there and WoD, couldn't do it any more. Couldn't get "into" the Horde any more. And now, I'm simply an Alliance player and proud of it.
The Story for Teldrassil, in my opinion, is same ol' same old for Nelves. A lot of us have been tired with how they've handled us, and this -really- didn't help that much. Making Tyrande just come in from Stormwind to Hearth Malfurion out: Nerfing Malfurion so the Horde wont suffer massive casualties for trying to attack the Night Elves... But it's somewhat understandable, because at full power Night Elves wont lose. If we have them at full power plot cant progress. But it still feels like, after how so many of our characters we're treated in Legion, they coulda harkened back more to Warcraft 3. Night Elves are used to represent the High Elves in this, Sylvannas killing ancient elves... but that doesn't really feel like a good thing to use as an analogy, because Night Elves have their own Warcraft 3 themes to harken back to ignored for this storyline. It's difficult as a Night Elf lore fan to keep seeing them say we're stagnant, but ignore all the societal changes written in Cataclysm.
That said: Totally understand nerfing Malfurion. Like, I do take issue that they'll nerf the Night Elf characters but not Jaina, but DAMN. He would just put Sylvannas soul in her arrows and make her into a tree. Would just throw a hurricane through the Wisp wall and kill all the Horde, etc. Same thing would happen if they acknowledged the 6 Ancient Guardians, or all the Ancients, or the Shen'dralar, etc. It's hard for them to tell a story with such ridiculous strength present in a single region.
Look. edgy. Night Elves are not, and I repeat, ARE NOT as powerful as you're making them out to be. They aren't. What Malfurion blows a horn and blows up Archimonde with the SOULS OF THEIR DEAD ANCESTORS and all of a sudden Night Elves is the most powerful military force Azeroth has ever seen? Get out of here... Yeah sure, pre sundering the Night Elves were a powerful military force and empire. But they still weren't shit in comparison to the Trolls... the Draenei are definitely far powerful than them and I STILL wouldn't say the Draenei are the most powerful.
Night Elves got a lot of screen time in Legion, it's not the end of the world if they take a backseat in BFA. We have no idea where the story is gonna go after the first raid, so no need to be all doom and gloom. I'm sure they'll be back in strength for the next expansion. And who knows, maybe they'll get a "payback" arc in BFA.
Nixxiom, glad you spoke on this as I agree the Night elf starting zone and Teldrassil will always be home for me so that cut scene hit me in my nostalgia and feels. An yes agree show do not tell is always the best way to go in gaming and films.
My purple brother! Elwynn Forest was my first and foremost home, and Varian my king. Because my husband loved the undead race, I did make a mage to his warlock. We played Horde up until we just couldn't tolerate the harsh, stark and sometimes ultra disturbing quest content. Aric was a lover of lover so I too learned to read quests. I got caught up in stories. As an emotional person I invested in my character and those around me, including NPCs. I hated the pervasive tone of destruction Hordeside and longed for the softer bosom of Alliance. Aric agreed once we quested through Hillsbrad and were charged to apply plague to a puppy. Back to blue we went. Forward through the years to Draenor. I had a few times tried out Horde again--and so appreciated the varying perspective, the other side of the story--but primarily played Alli. Until a horrendous guild leader was cause for mass egress. A bunch of us went Hordeside and played there. Two years nearly. By the time Legion rolled to a close, I had (have) more Alli characters than Horde, but felt both. Loved both. BfA sounded heartbreaking. We had a working peace! Now my factions were going to be at war? I was so conflicted. When I viewed the trailer my heart surged with pride for both sides. And I cried each time I viewed it, out of love, out of dismay at the battling. I wanted all the newness of the expansion--new lands, new stories, new people--but couldn't embrace the expac. Now I am. As with you, I WANT to see what happens next. I am in the story. I still hate war and warring, but I will play the blue play the red and support both.
I find it telling in Astranaar that all the rogues left behind are Forsaken and saying 'For the Dark Lady'.... no wonder all the people were killed not, just the sentinels ( well in the Horde quests you could kill civvies but it isn't required ) the Horde left em alone but the Forsaken just wanted more bodies...
What incoming attack on Astranaar? Nixxiom, in case you didn't notice, the attack had already happened. Astranaar was already in flames and filled with horde rogues killing the few survivors that remained.
Now that I see the whole picture, I love the contrast between the priestess' of Elune staying behind to comfort the dying vs Sylvanas jumping ship and killing all her own troops. It really shows that despite all of Sylvanas' rhetoric about helping the horde survive, when the chips are down all horde lives are expendable to her. If one life is worth nothing than a thousand lives are also worth nothing.
As a horde i didnt know of these quests and i would agree, that 2 minutes of saving ppl, that was a GREAT move on blizzards part, we need more of this, harsh hits of reality.
I, too, started WoW as a Night Elf hunter, back in the days just before Wrath came out. I faction changed to the Horde in Cata, and that hunter is still my main today. Though I haven't played a Night Elf since then, I still remember quite a bit of the starting area quest line and I remember taming my first pet there, so Teldrassil will always have a special place in my heart. I've never been so tempted to have a max level Alliance character so I could experience the story from their side.
First toon I made for WoW was a NE rogue. Remember logging in that day for the first time and was overwelmed by the scenery of trees overtaking the sky above. From the first quest to taking the boat that would lead you to Darkshore the scope of Teldrassil was pretty amazing in my eyes. As I entered Teldrassil as it burned on my rogue we just stood there at the doorway to the temple and was just. No words. Shock in disbelief that our home was burning. And there was nothing we could do to stop it.
Hmmm so now I see how N'Zoth returns - the trees were planted strategically to guard the prisons of the old gods... now that Teldrassil is over, nothing guards N'Zoth's prison. He comes, to take us to Ny'alotha...!!!
After having read the novella "Elegy" I agree that on the alliance side we don't get to see enough. We could've seen Delaryn being promoted or the battle at Falfarren river or even the naval engagements at Zoram'gar.
Teldrassil was the very first place that I experienced in a mmo over a decade ago...all the night elves running around in their underwear, people following me and trolling, it was amazing... I kept thinking back on my night elf hunter back in the days and the feeling it gave me...needless to say I took a few tours throughout teldrassil before officially starting the burning
I love warmode. It's like groups are forming and reacting on attacks and attacking themselves. Players asking in chat "Where are we needed" and all this cool stuff (I'm AD Horde). Sometimes I felt sorry for the poor Alliance players, that just got caught up and were in the wrong place at the wrong time, but it doesn't matter. It's war. - I must say, the burning of Teldrassil itself, it was so extremely depressing. I played it with my Alliance main (Dwarf Paladin) and then I thought, I have to go through that with my Nightelf Character as well. It's depressing, because you just can't protect your home. You can't. It's so well done.
Calling Ancient Protectors treants... DAMMMN that hurt :D And I just still don't understand this Sylvanas doing what she wanted from day 1... For me, Sylvanas was a completely different character. She was a high elf that repsected the elves above everything else. Now burning down elven territory, is just a big middlefinger to her character.
I will never forget my first night elf druid mission and having to face the spiders in the cave and also climbing up aldrassil for many quests....ven di ‘de’elune
But alas, Blizzard will make some BS excuse for the player to defeat the Old God's... Whilst completely ignoring the fact that the TITANS themselves had a massive problem with dealing only ONE Old God, and the only way they managed to kill it was by ripping it off from the planet. The result in the death of that Old God? *The Well of Eternity.*
Read before the storm. I would have suggested reading it before you saw the cutscenes you did see. I managed to pick it up before hand and now understand where both leaders are in this conflict.
This isn't the first time I've heard someone mention the possibility of a 3rd faction. I think that's interesting but have no opinion on it as far as for or against. What I don't get is who would be in said faction? I mean a faction of only undead doesn't really sound very interesting to me. In a way I am annoyed by this questline from both the Alliance and Horde perspective. My favorite Alliance city was Darnassus and my favorite Horde city was the Undercity and now they're both gone. Blizzard has a knack of messing up my favorite zones. Prior to Cataclysm I loved Azshara because it was beautiful and remote and I loved the beaches with all the ruins from the old Night Elf empire...and then Blizzard makes it a goblin starting zone and ruins it. The bastards keep ruining my favorite places!
Need to see Malfurion doing more. He’s been a punching bag during this whole xpac despite being one of the strongest characters in the game and at the moment he had to really shine the most we saw him do was make a wall and then root some enemies. I wanna see more from Malf.
There is one thing, regarding second part, that makes it even better - after the quest when you try to save citizens of Teldrassil and before leaving back to Stormwind, you should go and burn your character in fire. Flying around as a spirit just makes the whole scene much more awseome (it even better if you're night elf).
I love that Sylvanas used the plan she would've used against Arthus. Her big plan if Lordaron was ever attacked was to drown it in the plague like that. It's honestly an efficient move. I wish the Forsaken players got their own story for Lordaron though. Like evacuating the citizens who were putting themselves back together with fresh parts. I wonder what happened to that council in Lordaron during this event too. Also I bet Nixxiom kind of regrets fishing for fire elementals for that "mysterious buyer" now.
Sums it up pretty well. You can basically feel the desperation of the situation in Darnassus and my heart clenched when I saw teldrassil on fire. I also have my wow roots with the night elves and this is frickin horrible. Well, time to rebuild in Feralas
In those pdf recent books says horde outnumber alliance by 8 to 1. In my server group is more like 15, 20 to 1 and by that I mean there is only me against all of them. Very happy to see there are more server groups balanced.
"A good kind of stab in my nostalgia" -- Nixxiom 2018 I totally agree though, I am both sad that it's gone and excited because it means some really big story development.
It would be the Scourge with the new Lich King honestly. The Forsaken without the Valyre have no means to replenish their numbers and they lost their capital city.
@Nixxiom Hey since you've been sharing a lot of your thoughts about wow recently I was wondering what do you think about the current position of hybrid classes? It would seem like classes have a much more basic take on it and hybrids aren't nearly as popular. How would you feel if blizz brought back the ability to make a lot more hybrid classes or if out of nowhere they introduce this new mechanic where you could chose to be a specialist of two classes allowing you to use abilities from both classes. Thanks nixx or anyone out there willing to share you opinio, I hope to be making a video here soon about it once I get a little bit more information.
I hope they let us retake Ashenvale for the Night Elves. They are currently without a home, and Ashenvale is quite similar to Teldrassil when it comes to appearance. Tyrande hinted that she would return eventually in "Elegy", so I hope Blizzard makes good on that. They could also possibly work Azshara into the story, as she tries to foil the Night Elves' attempt at reclaiming their home.
people fail to understand that its the wrong tree, archimonde tried to destroy nordrassilin hyjal, not teldrassil, also, horde and alliance fought TOGETHER to stop his advance and barely made
Imagin the 3rd faction can be undead versions of all the current races that want to follow sylvannas and sourfang becomes warchief, then he gives the forsaken an option to stay with the horde or go with sylvannas, that be kool i think.
so is there an alliance-only mount reward for the alliance side of this questline ? gotta know before the event ends in case I'd need to power through levels on an ally to do it
dam if i get a long term job i may come back and only do 1 thing go to tedrasill ruins to show my respects to the fallen ones and see how the wisp dance trought the forest. Hope they find peace in elune shadow below the trees of ashenvale. Elune adore Sylvanas will know our rage Ana'doreini talah!
I considered myself a horde player, I loved playing Taurens since TBC. But ever since Sylvanas burned that tree down, it gave me a damn question: Is this a warchief i want? So I´m changing sides.
It needed a bit more meat to it, imo. A battle in Astranar would've been a fantastic sight. Maybe more of those quests that fail and sends you to a different quest.
not gonna lie I started getting emotional for both the tree and undercity though I mostly play Horde, and just overall the feeling of a war ripping people apart in shreds, I first played wow when pre legion came out so I'm not a true vanilla player but just....dam it hits me in the feels.
Ok question. With all of the night elves dying on Teldrassil (because we didn’t save them all). Would there be enough wisps there to atleast put out the flames that are there now? Or is it just going to burn forever?
Nixxiom you kinda missed the point of Astranaar. The alliance thought the horde was on their way to Silithus with their army. So when they went north instead of south it came as a surprise and Astranaar wasn't warned about it. You then get sent there + some soldiers from Darnassus to defend it. But by the time you and the soldiers arrive at Astranaar it have already fallen to a stealth attack. So no battle ever happened at the place. You then try and save as much you can of the town and honor the death (and get revenge on the horde still remaining). But at the end you are forced to abandon the place.
Voljin, Green Jesus and the Tauren will *NOT* like Sylvanas burning down Teldrassil. The Trolls joined the horde after being exiled from their home and Voljin was even accepted as the horde warchief by King Wrynn himself who said "Lead with strength and honor." Plus, the darkspear tribe has also recently become involved with the Cenarion circle by becoming druids. Voljin is not likely to take well to watching the home of the Night Elves, a people who are in fact distant cousins to the darkspears (descendants of trolls who became druidic), exiled from their home the way his own tribe was. If Blizz stays true to their own writing, I imagine that's going to become a point of contention between Voljin and Sylvanas. Meanwhile the Tauren have been deeply linked to Teldrasil since day 1 WoW due to their connection to the Cenarion circle. First Bloodhoof is killed in his duel with that horrendous chode Garrosh and now the home of those who built the Druid sanctuary Moonglade and formed the Cenarion circle is burnt to the ground, after that very same people had given up their immortality to save Azeroth from kil'jaeden. That is not going to sit right with the Tauren, not at all. They're a spiritual people, both shamanistic and druidic, have been say day 1 WoW. Warring for the horde they've never had a problem with: but to kick an enemy when they're down and destroy their home? I can't imagine any Tauren being right with that. It really seems like the horde is going to split down the middle with the Trolls and Tauren being at odds ends against the Orcs and Forsaken as a result of Garrosh and now Sylvanas. Ever since green jesus gave up his role as Warchief the Horde's been on a downward spiral. Bring back Thrall, I liked Thrall, Thrall was fucking awesome. Bring back Thrall so he can *Make the Horde Great Again.*
Wish I experienced a good Wpvp environment that doesnt require a raid. Seems like there's a significant disproportion of Horde to Alliance. Makes me feel bad for choosing Alliance.
While I agree that the population of certain servers can be very skewed, but I've had a blast forming up smaller parties to try and fight back against the other faction players even when we are outgunned and out maneuvered.
That Teldrassil quest made me think of Halo reach last quest. Infinite waves of ennemies and you need to survive. But you don't and the "goal" or fate is to LOOSE. That's what missing in Wow rn : emotional involvment
Before the War of Thorns ends I plan to see if you can group up for that last quest and attempt to save everyone. Doubt there's any achievement for it, but I just want the glory of saying 'we did it'.
I never really liked playing in Teldrassil to be honest. My first character was a Night Elf druid as they were the alliance druids at the time. I was so very happy when Worgen came out and that they could be druids... only for them to lose their amazing capital city and hide in freaking Teldrassil where I abandoned my Night Elf. Not a fan of Night Elves at all and even though I love the druid theme and class I couldn't be a Night Elf. Even with this though the burning of Teldrassil hurt a little. Wasn't a home I wanted to live in but seeing the ancients burn with the tree hit me. All in all though this makes me happy, as I hope we take back Gilneas and the Worgen have a proper home and capital!
I think that maybe blizzard is setting upp a 3rd Factions for only the forsaken and new race would come like does big forsaken monsters. And when the 3rd faction come they would add the necromancer hero class. Would that not be amazing when i do not know what is. And when the 3rd faction is created the forsaken will witch to the 3rd faction. Or maybe you got to chose because it fels random that a race would be missing in the chose horde a race meny. Or maybe they will go over to the 3rd faction and hord got a new race that is the one to learn many of the other races how to be a necromancer. you know like when the pandari come and learned many race how to be monk.
I will never play WoW, but BFA has really gotten me back into the lore, made me reinstall Warcraft 2 and 3, gotten me interested in the books; great stuff!
My main is a blood elf warlock. But my first was a night elf hunter. I fell in love with Teldrassil immediately. The colors, the music, the architecture, all of it. Imo the best starting zone of them all. So it was very heartbreaking to see Teldrassil burn. No bueno Blizzard 😢
But did you see the burning dog meme in there? Theres a worgen sitting in a burning house saying this is fine lol
Even just the thought of this made my day haha good one bro
When I saw that I was hysterical
nice good work xD
RIP Tedrassil... Best music and starting zone. 💔
you forgot the worgen who sits back down int he burning house that says "this is fine" XD
they forgot to make the fishing trainer in Darnassus stop fishing...
Its the perfect situation for him. Catch fish, use fire on fish, cooked fish.
I guess he adopted the same philosophy as the Worgen in the first aid building. "This is fine"
Nixxiom starting to fall in love with WoW and its Story again brings tears to my eyeholes.
I played a Forsaken back in Vanilla through Cata, but with all the changes to everything between there and WoD, couldn't do it any more. Couldn't get "into" the Horde any more.
And now, I'm simply an Alliance player and proud of it.
The Story for Teldrassil, in my opinion, is same ol' same old for Nelves. A lot of us have been tired with how they've handled us, and this -really- didn't help that much. Making Tyrande just come in from Stormwind to Hearth Malfurion out: Nerfing Malfurion so the Horde wont suffer massive casualties for trying to attack the Night Elves... But it's somewhat understandable, because at full power Night Elves wont lose. If we have them at full power plot cant progress. But it still feels like, after how so many of our characters we're treated in Legion, they coulda harkened back more to Warcraft 3. Night Elves are used to represent the High Elves in this, Sylvannas killing ancient elves... but that doesn't really feel like a good thing to use as an analogy, because Night Elves have their own Warcraft 3 themes to harken back to ignored for this storyline. It's difficult as a Night Elf lore fan to keep seeing them say we're stagnant, but ignore all the societal changes written in Cataclysm.
That said: Totally understand nerfing Malfurion. Like, I do take issue that they'll nerf the Night Elf characters but not Jaina, but DAMN. He would just put Sylvannas soul in her arrows and make her into a tree. Would just throw a hurricane through the Wisp wall and kill all the Horde, etc. Same thing would happen if they acknowledged the 6 Ancient Guardians, or all the Ancients, or the Shen'dralar, etc. It's hard for them to tell a story with such ridiculous strength present in a single region.
You're all still just trolls.
night elves got shafted in Warcraft 3 too remember? RIP World Tree
Look. edgy. Night Elves are not, and I repeat, ARE NOT as powerful as you're making them out to be. They aren't. What Malfurion blows a horn and blows up Archimonde with the SOULS OF THEIR DEAD ANCESTORS and all of a sudden Night Elves is the most powerful military force Azeroth has ever seen? Get out of here... Yeah sure, pre sundering the Night Elves were a powerful military force and empire. But they still weren't shit in comparison to the Trolls... the Draenei are definitely far powerful than them and I STILL wouldn't say the Draenei are the most powerful.
Night Elves got a lot of screen time in Legion, it's not the end of the world if they take a backseat in BFA. We have no idea where the story is gonna go after the first raid, so no need to be all doom and gloom. I'm sure they'll be back in strength for the next expansion. And who knows, maybe they'll get a "payback" arc in BFA.
This is depressing to watch the tree burn
Night elf quest starting zone was one of the best fam
Håvard Ramberg well I do prefer Gilneas but I respect your opinion
Ilija Kovachevich thank
It was ok, goblin is personally my fave lol
It will probably be phased, I don't think blizz will make 2 new leveling zones for Nelves and forsaken.
Antonio
Orcs. Trolls. Dwarves. That last fight in the gnome start zone where you press one single button for five minutes
Have you saved Ishnu Alah guy?
My sweet Nixxiom saved my ass uuuhhhh
the very reason sylvanas wanted to burn down the tree.
I thought it was for worgens. Sylvanas hates them so much she destroys both of their homelands. Bet their jewish or sth.
he went "ishnu allahwakbar"
@Przemyslaw Chlebiej Gilnean chemistry is a threat to her plague. As is druidism.
the Ishnu Alah Guy better have survived
Nixxiom, glad you spoke on this as I agree the Night elf starting zone and Teldrassil will always be home for me so that cut scene hit me in my nostalgia and feels. An yes agree show do not tell is always the best way to go in gaming and films.
Please nixxiom tell me that you saved the ishnu alah guy
Still waiting for the Alliance Full rendered cinematic showing Malfurion and Tyrande.
My purple brother! Elwynn Forest was my first and foremost home, and Varian my king. Because my husband loved the undead race, I did make a mage to his warlock. We played Horde up until we just couldn't tolerate the harsh, stark and sometimes ultra disturbing quest content. Aric was a lover of lover so I too learned to read quests. I got caught up in stories. As an emotional person I invested in my character and those around me, including NPCs. I hated the pervasive tone of destruction Hordeside and longed for the softer bosom of Alliance. Aric agreed once we quested through Hillsbrad and were charged to apply plague to a puppy. Back to blue we went. Forward through the years to Draenor. I had a few times tried out Horde again--and so appreciated the varying perspective, the other side of the story--but primarily played Alli. Until a horrendous guild leader was cause for mass egress. A bunch of us went Hordeside and played there. Two years nearly. By the time Legion rolled to a close, I had (have) more Alli characters than Horde, but felt both. Loved both. BfA sounded heartbreaking. We had a working peace! Now my factions were going to be at war? I was so conflicted. When I viewed the trailer my heart surged with pride for both sides. And I cried each time I viewed it, out of love, out of dismay at the battling. I wanted all the newness of the expansion--new lands, new stories, new people--but couldn't embrace the expac. Now I am. As with you, I WANT to see what happens next. I am in the story. I still hate war and warring, but I will play the blue play the red and support both.
we need to work together, for something will take advantage of us while we are weak.
I love that!
RIP How to Night Elf. Do we get an extended burning of Teldrassil? I'm sure Nixxiom is the true culprit to the burning.
Wildchild_inc i want to know if ichnu alah guy is alive :(
Alexander kjellberg same here
I find it telling in Astranaar that all the rogues left behind are Forsaken and saying 'For the Dark Lady'.... no wonder all the people were killed not, just the sentinels ( well in the Horde quests you could kill civvies but it isn't required ) the Horde left em alone but the Forsaken just wanted more bodies...
What incoming attack on Astranaar? Nixxiom, in case you didn't notice, the attack had already happened. Astranaar was already in flames and filled with horde rogues killing the few survivors that remained.
Man the sound on the mic of yours is crystal clear.... nice video as always ;)
Love the format of how you sit and chat with us when the video cuts to you speaking.
Now that I see the whole picture, I love the contrast between the priestess' of Elune staying behind to comfort the dying vs Sylvanas jumping ship and killing all her own troops. It really shows that despite all of Sylvanas' rhetoric about helping the horde survive, when the chips are down all horde lives are expendable to her. If one life is worth nothing than a thousand lives are also worth nothing.
I love your enthusiasm you have for what's going to happen next, Nixxiom. Have fun!
'Im angry! That's my tree' I feel ya bro. That was my tree too.
As a horde i didnt know of these quests and i would agree, that 2 minutes of saving ppl, that was a GREAT move on blizzards part, we need more of this, harsh hits of reality.
My bro. I must say, I've watched you for a while now. Really awesome on weight loss dude! Congrats and hope you keep pushing!
I, too, started WoW as a Night Elf hunter, back in the days just before Wrath came out. I faction changed to the Horde in Cata, and that hunter is still my main today. Though I haven't played a Night Elf since then, I still remember quite a bit of the starting area quest line and I remember taming my first pet there, so Teldrassil will always have a special place in my heart. I've never been so tempted to have a max level Alliance character so I could experience the story from their side.
First toon I made for WoW was a NE rogue. Remember logging in that day for the first time and was overwelmed by the scenery of trees overtaking the sky above. From the first quest to taking the boat that would lead you to Darkshore the scope of Teldrassil was pretty amazing in my eyes. As I entered Teldrassil as it burned on my rogue we just stood there at the doorway to the temple and was just. No words. Shock in disbelief that our home was burning. And there was nothing we could do to stop it.
4:19 because they didn't evacuate before hand. Wow, Thousand of years of War knowledge gone out of the window
If you read Elegy you'd see that they did evacuate beforehand.
ArchDemonGaming still 942 guy left behind euh?
Blizzard is often lazy in matching the game to the books.
Hmmm so now I see how N'Zoth returns - the trees were planted strategically to guard the prisons of the old gods... now that Teldrassil is over, nothing guards N'Zoth's prison. He comes, to take us to Ny'alotha...!!!
R.I.P. The ishnu alah guy =(
MMMMMM uuuuuuunnng the fire makes me so hot and sweaty (slaps ass) ooohh yeah! ungh!
That's what I imagine
After having read the novella "Elegy" I agree that on the alliance side we don't get to see enough. We could've seen Delaryn being promoted or the battle at Falfarren river or even the naval engagements at Zoram'gar.
Teldrassil was the very first place that I experienced in a mmo over a decade ago...all the night elves running around in their underwear, people following me and trolling, it was amazing... I kept thinking back on my night elf hunter back in the days and the feeling it gave me...needless to say I took a few tours throughout teldrassil before officially starting the burning
Nixx the reason that big battle didn't happen was because it wasn't supposed to, it's a distraction while the Horde marches on Darkshore.
I'm also excited, good or bad. I'm Horde for life and it's great seeing everyone being so passionate.
“Pay-va-pay!” 😂 Love it.
I love warmode. It's like groups are forming and reacting on attacks and attacking themselves. Players asking in chat "Where are we needed" and all this cool stuff (I'm AD Horde). Sometimes I felt sorry for the poor Alliance players, that just got caught up and were in the wrong place at the wrong time, but it doesn't matter. It's war.
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I must say, the burning of Teldrassil itself, it was so extremely depressing. I played it with my Alliance main (Dwarf Paladin) and then I thought, I have to go through that with my Nightelf Character as well. It's depressing, because you just can't protect your home. You can't. It's so well done.
Calling Ancient Protectors treants... DAMMMN that hurt :D
And I just still don't understand this Sylvanas doing what she wanted from day 1... For me, Sylvanas was a completely different character. She was a high elf that repsected the elves above everything else. Now burning down elven territory, is just a big middlefinger to her character.
I will never forget my first night elf druid mission and having to face the spiders in the cave and also climbing up aldrassil for many quests....ven di ‘de’elune
What happens? It's very simple.
The Old Gods return.
Right when Azeroth, the Horde and Alliance are at their weakest.
n'zoth got replaced by g'huun
Tuba whale
Different names...
But the end result is still the same.
Sounds about right. Whatever they do in this expansion is a prelude for the next one which will most likely feature the old gods are there finest.
But alas, Blizzard will make some BS excuse for the player to defeat the Old God's...
Whilst completely ignoring the fact that the TITANS themselves had a massive problem with dealing only ONE Old God, and the only way they managed to kill it was by ripping it off from the planet.
The result in the death of that Old God?
*The Well of Eternity.*
sega616 well, unless they pull another retcon. We've already killed 2 old gods.
Read before the storm. I would have suggested reading it before you saw the cutscenes you did see. I managed to pick it up before hand and now understand where both leaders are in this conflict.
This isn't the first time I've heard someone mention the possibility of a 3rd faction. I think that's interesting but have no opinion on it as far as for or against. What I don't get is who would be in said faction? I mean a faction of only undead doesn't really sound very interesting to me.
In a way I am annoyed by this questline from both the Alliance and Horde perspective. My favorite Alliance city was Darnassus and my favorite Horde city was the Undercity and now they're both gone. Blizzard has a knack of messing up my favorite zones. Prior to Cataclysm I loved Azshara because it was beautiful and remote and I loved the beaches with all the ruins from the old Night Elf empire...and then Blizzard makes it a goblin starting zone and ruins it. The bastards keep ruining my favorite places!
Need to see Malfurion doing more. He’s been a punching bag during this whole xpac despite being one of the strongest characters in the game and at the moment he had to really shine the most we saw him do was make a wall and then root some enemies. I wanna see more from Malf.
There is one thing, regarding second part, that makes it even better - after the quest when you try to save citizens of Teldrassil and before leaving back to Stormwind, you should go and burn your character in fire. Flying around as a spirit just makes the whole scene much more awseome (it even better if you're night elf).
I love that Sylvanas used the plan she would've used against Arthus. Her big plan if Lordaron was ever attacked was to drown it in the plague like that. It's honestly an efficient move. I wish the Forsaken players got their own story for Lordaron though. Like evacuating the citizens who were putting themselves back together with fresh parts. I wonder what happened to that council in Lordaron during this event too.
Also I bet Nixxiom kind of regrets fishing for fire elementals for that "mysterious buyer" now.
The only tragic thing about this is that Ishnu-Alah guy is probably dead.
SAD!
Hurlock alpha the Anti-Globalist imagine his wisp....damn
Don't worry guys, I'm not dead. (slaps ass) uuuhhhhh
Plot twist Silvanas took him captive and now is her sexual slave/toy in the depths of Ragefire Chasm.
is it really tragic though?
The book is GREAT
Sums it up pretty well. You can basically feel the desperation of the situation in Darnassus and my heart clenched when I saw teldrassil on fire. I also have my wow roots with the night elves and this is frickin horrible.
Well, time to rebuild in Feralas
Before the storm is kinda slow, but it explained a bunch of things that are already happening. Like motivation wise and stuff
Random worgen sitting at the table in teldrassil while it burns is like "this is fine" best reference to a meme in wow
In those pdf recent books says horde outnumber alliance by 8 to 1. In my server group is more like 15, 20 to 1 and by that I mean there is only me against all of them. Very happy to see there are more server groups balanced.
"A good kind of stab in my nostalgia"
-- Nixxiom 2018
I totally agree though, I am both sad that it's gone and excited because it means some really big story development.
Make Forsaken third faction plz blizz
It would be the Scourge with the new Lich King honestly. The Forsaken without the Valyre have no means to replenish their numbers and they lost their capital city.
Mailsman Man Heresy! I just reported you to the Commis. . .wrong game.
Honestly, I just want Kel’Thuzad back lol
Mailsman Man no, give the Alliance Vulpera and lightbound undead. Lolz
Undead third faction with Bolvar as leader has northrend, alliance has eastern kingdoms, horde has kalimdor. Could work
Love your videos Nixxiom!
@Nixxiom Hey since you've been sharing a lot of your thoughts about wow recently I was wondering what do you think about the current position of hybrid classes? It would seem like classes have a much more basic take on it and hybrids aren't nearly as popular. How would you feel if blizz brought back the ability to make a lot more hybrid classes or if out of nowhere they introduce this new mechanic where you could chose to be a specialist of two classes allowing you to use abilities from both classes. Thanks nixx or anyone out there willing to share you opinio, I hope to be making a video here soon about it once I get a little bit more information.
I hope they let us retake Ashenvale for the Night Elves. They are currently without a home, and Ashenvale is quite similar to Teldrassil when it comes to appearance. Tyrande hinted that she would return eventually in "Elegy", so I hope Blizzard makes good on that. They could also possibly work Azshara into the story, as she tries to foil the Night Elves' attempt at reclaiming their home.
Battle stratagems for each region/area in WoW please! (Also do you think we'll finally get Gilneas back???)
As a horde player it still hits me for this, like if I played alliance it would be Night elf 100%, just all round amazing
За Тёмную Госпожу! For the horde!)
Did you see the Worgen with the top hat that was sitting at a table and all he said while everything was on fire around him was "This is fine."
also damn Sylvannas is more badass than Archimonde.
it took her one "try" to destroy a freaking tree and beat Mal-F'N-Furion Stormrage...
She didnt beat him though. Saurfang had to stab Malf in the back and save her.
people fail to understand that its the wrong tree, archimonde tried to destroy nordrassilin hyjal, not teldrassil, also, horde and alliance fought TOGETHER to stop his advance and barely made
FOR THE ALLIANCE!
is there going to be a machinma covering how Ishnu Alah guy feels about Teldrassil?
Got an add before this video of SylvANUS staring angrily at me.
The way you say "burn" is hilarious.
nixxiom lookin like he's ready to compete in the PGA anytime now
Imagin the 3rd faction can be undead versions of all the current races that want to follow sylvannas and sourfang becomes warchief, then he gives the forsaken an option to stay with the horde or go with sylvannas, that be kool i think.
so is there an alliance-only mount reward for the alliance side of this questline ? gotta know before the event ends in case I'd need to power through levels on an ally to do it
Love you Nixxiom!😍
In remembrance of their fallen kin, the Night Elves will now henceforth be known as the Dark Elves. /s
dam if i get a long term job i may come back and only do 1 thing go to tedrasill ruins to show my respects to the fallen ones and see how the wisp dance trought the forest. Hope they find peace in elune shadow below the trees of ashenvale. Elune adore
Sylvanas will know our rage Ana'doreini talah!
I considered myself a horde player, I loved playing Taurens since TBC. But ever since Sylvanas burned that tree down, it gave me a damn question: Is this a warchief i want? So I´m changing sides.
I really want to see Sylvanas becoming the lich king
It needed a bit more meat to it, imo. A battle in Astranar would've been a fantastic sight. Maybe more of those quests that fail and sends you to a different quest.
not gonna lie I started getting emotional for both the tree and undercity though I mostly play Horde, and just overall the feeling of a war ripping people apart in shreds, I first played wow when pre legion came out so I'm not a true vanilla player but just....dam it hits me in the feels.
If the player base was big they would of made a third faction but right now i dont think so.
These events look awesome. Really miss WoW.
if ya going for a WArcraft book, post cata (beside Before the Storm) can I recommend War Crimes. That Book was AMAZING!
Ok question. With all of the night elves dying on Teldrassil (because we didn’t save them all). Would there be enough wisps there to atleast put out the flames that are there now? Or is it just going to burn forever?
I play both factions, but my heart is in the Alliance! Paladin from the start!
Nixxiom you kinda missed the point of Astranaar. The alliance thought the horde was on their way to Silithus with their army. So when they went north instead of south it came as a surprise and Astranaar wasn't warned about it. You then get sent there + some soldiers from Darnassus to defend it. But by the time you and the soldiers arrive at Astranaar it have already fallen to a stealth attack. So no battle ever happened at the place. You then try and save as much you can of the town and honor the death (and get revenge on the horde still remaining). But at the end you are forced to abandon the place.
Voljin, Green Jesus and the Tauren will *NOT* like Sylvanas burning down Teldrassil.
The Trolls joined the horde after being exiled from their home and Voljin was even accepted as the horde warchief by King Wrynn himself who said "Lead with strength and honor." Plus, the darkspear tribe has also recently become involved with the Cenarion circle by becoming druids. Voljin is not likely to take well to watching the home of the Night Elves, a people who are in fact distant cousins to the darkspears (descendants of trolls who became druidic), exiled from their home the way his own tribe was. If Blizz stays true to their own writing, I imagine that's going to become a point of contention between Voljin and Sylvanas.
Meanwhile the Tauren have been deeply linked to Teldrasil since day 1 WoW due to their connection to the Cenarion circle. First Bloodhoof is killed in his duel with that horrendous chode Garrosh and now the home of those who built the Druid sanctuary Moonglade and formed the Cenarion circle is burnt to the ground, after that very same people had given up their immortality to save Azeroth from kil'jaeden. That is not going to sit right with the Tauren, not at all. They're a spiritual people, both shamanistic and druidic, have been say day 1 WoW. Warring for the horde they've never had a problem with: but to kick an enemy when they're down and destroy their home? I can't imagine any Tauren being right with that.
It really seems like the horde is going to split down the middle with the Trolls and Tauren being at odds ends against the Orcs and Forsaken as a result of Garrosh and now Sylvanas. Ever since green jesus gave up his role as Warchief the Horde's been on a downward spiral. Bring back Thrall, I liked Thrall, Thrall was fucking awesome. Bring back Thrall so he can *Make the Horde Great Again.*
That tree had it coming.
Wish I experienced a good Wpvp environment that doesnt require a raid. Seems like there's a significant disproportion of Horde to Alliance. Makes me feel bad for choosing Alliance.
Your side, objectively, is better at PvP. Just a fact. look it up. You just suck.
I didnt say better. There are more Horde Warmode players on my shard than Alliance. Read before you insult.
While I agree that the population of certain servers can be very skewed, but I've had a blast forming up smaller parties to try and fight back against the other faction players even when we are outgunned and out maneuvered.
That Teldrassil quest made me think of Halo reach last quest. Infinite waves of ennemies and you need to survive. But you don't and the "goal" or fate is to LOOSE. That's what missing in Wow rn : emotional involvment
What was the 3d rotating portrait add-on that's used in the video?
You got Dublin as an unclaimed name? I love it
I'm going to hide my shoulders on my Orc until Sylvanas is no longer Warchief, however that will happen.
Does anyone know where can I find the cinematic at 6:03 with Saurfang yelling at Sylvanas over Teldrassil?
Before the War of Thorns ends I plan to see if you can group up for that last quest and attempt to save everyone. Doubt there's any achievement for it, but I just want the glory of saying 'we did it'.
@Nixxiom Make a machinima with You and Moocluck about the Questline so far. xD
Now we need to know what Nixxiom and Moocluck did during the Burning of Teldrassil event, and what happended to Ilthalaine...
Bro... I love you Nixxiom. You're the goodesy proud boy in red. #FortheAlliance.
So then, with it bruned down.. where is the starting zone for night elves gonna be?
Shoutout to the bois in blue!
I never really liked playing in Teldrassil to be honest. My first character was a Night Elf druid as they were the alliance druids at the time. I was so very happy when Worgen came out and that they could be druids... only for them to lose their amazing capital city and hide in freaking Teldrassil where I abandoned my Night Elf.
Not a fan of Night Elves at all and even though I love the druid theme and class I couldn't be a Night Elf. Even with this though the burning of Teldrassil hurt a little. Wasn't a home I wanted to live in but seeing the ancients burn with the tree hit me.
All in all though this makes me happy, as I hope we take back Gilneas and the Worgen have a proper home and capital!
don't worry teldrassil doesn't go anywhere
it's phased
I think that maybe blizzard is setting upp a 3rd Factions for only the forsaken and new race would come like does big forsaken monsters. And when the 3rd faction come they would add the necromancer hero class. Would that not be amazing when i do not know what is. And when the 3rd faction is created the forsaken will witch to the 3rd faction. Or maybe you got to chose because it fels random that a race would be missing in the chose horde a race meny. Or maybe they will go over to the 3rd faction and hord got a new race that is the one to learn many of the other races how to be a necromancer. you know like when the pandari come and learned many race how to be monk.
man that would be cool a dedicated necromancer class, personally though i still want my furbolgs though
Nixxiom did you not read the book that explains how Sylvanas is right now?
I will never play WoW, but BFA has really gotten me back into the lore, made me reinstall Warcraft 2 and 3, gotten me interested in the books; great stuff!
Battle of Lorderan: Slyvannas turns Bond villain a bombs her own damn Under City with Blight!!!