I know. Take mine for example. $1500 (second hand) and even on a bad day, I can climb into mine and go for a barrel round the block and still emerge smiling a little bit.
They’re just something about these. You know they’re not well built. You know they’re probably going to be unreliable. But it’s just gorgeous and none of that really matters.
I also have a basic one (without the seal leak b.t.w.)... 1.2 petrol and it drives like a dream: wouldn't mind the extra horse power though. I don't understand their complaint about the steering wheel being too light... it is especially with the 'city' mode enabled at low speed to facilitate maneuvers... but it stabilizes as speed picks up and it's also rather precise. This is my 1st Fiat and I'm delighted with it!
I have 2012 1.2 69hp Stock, it did not have a front anty roll bar, so it did actually oversteer on the limit. I added the anty roll bar, and it made handling more neutral, it still does oversteer.
It comes with big brakes and buckets from standard, the eseseseses wheels look amazing! If it had more power.. say 220bhp, this would go down in hot hatch history!
@kylio85 The same plastic can have different things done with it and the overall effect can be totally different. I think you'd have to agree that the inside of the 500 looks far nicer than the inside of the punto. I'd still rather have the punto though :-)
@sammsamuels i dont know so much anymore the fiat group has some pretty amazing technology now. Iv got an alfa mito and its got 3 stage engine managment switch,assisted hill start,tcs,blue and me,pillarless doors,and a really advanced engine, what citroen hatchback has those sort of options,all they have got is air suspension and digital techometer displays which looks cheap and nasty. (although the ds3 might change things interior wise)
@number9ninja Well thanx m8. Actually neither of them, as much as I like FIATs... But Iif I had to choose, The 500 for sure...it's a loot prettier & for its dimensions, u get enough room for 4 adults. The Grande Punto is too long & not that spacious; plus I'm not really keen on the style :( (especially the front end) but gotta say it handels very nicely.
i've got this fiat grande punto with a A/M + / - shifts , i like the car so much but changing the gears while driving is so tough and aggressive as if i'm driving a manual transmition car without a clutch do any one have this model agree with me?? i just need your kind reply because i think i have a problem with my car
Yes. It is a piece of utter shit. My family owns one since 2009. With the 1.4. Aaand... It broke 4 times. FOUR!!! And it is slow, and it wont downshift when going up a hill untill the engine is at 1000rpm or lower. What I have in mind to do is to swap it to a manual and get that DualStupid thing out the way... For the rest... It's a great litle car.
People notice mediterranean cars like Seat Cupra/FR's and Fiat Abarth/Sportings and go "thats a nice car" No one ever notices ST's or VXR's but all the road knobs inside them believe they are standing out from the crowd when they aren't. When an ST/VXR is driven fast everyone thinks "What a twat/cock" yet when a Cupra/Abarth is driven fast nobody seems to care. We can get away with it because we don't have a known knob image.
sorry for you,but here in belgium a friend has buy the renault clio last model sport,and lost mirors and his daschboard was goind up and down,if i was you i do my complaint in the fiatdealer,my fiat on this moment has 20.0000km on the clock,no problems
@2007PHATE That's true, but... Well the 500's dashboard is coloured that's why it immediately strikes you as far more good looking... Anyway @ 13 & 1/2 thousand pounds u cannot expect the plastics of a Bentley, can u??
@Taylor40667 Wow Ford are so behind with the times, you mean to tell me they have only just caught on to supermini's being 180+bhp? Renault were getting 182 over half a decade ago with the 2.0 Clio Cup and Fiat were getting 180bhp out of a 1.4T 4 years ago. I can't believe Ford have taken over 4 years to wake up and smell the coffee with the new Fiesta ST. When everyone else is putting out 180bhp on a 1.4 Ford are still putting out 30 horses less on an engine double the size! Ha ha
@odin52 well i went in fiat car shop and i bought it ...60 month credit...i was driving like about three months and allready had to go on repair... i love this car and its style and everything but has disappointed me...
Just come back after a month, haha, 7 poor comments? I should have stayed clear from all the fiat enthusiasts and not posted. I don't need to see one I've been in many! It is still a nice car though this is why I was checking this out, however, things like the overall build quality and the fact that my mates gearbox went just makes me a bit cautious.
I've owned lots of small Fiats, from 127 Sports to Punto Abarths..........a shit road test from someone who clearly doesn't get the idea of feisty little road hogs with a quirkiness that we love.......Yes FIAT are marmite, but that's what makes them great little cars
I have purchased a Fiat Grande Sporting Punto 1.9 Turbo Diesel and remapped it, diagnostic machine clocked it at running 194bhp and I hit a 0-60 in just under 6.2 seconds, much better option than buying a sporty overpriced abarth + nothing beats the face of the lads in their BMW 330i when i'm matching what there V6 has to offer. Their faces drop even more when I do them off the lights and they realise im 17 with the fastest first car since the young kardashian girl kylie borought a 5.0L Mercedes Monster.
That's like stating an MG is superior to a Rover, the fact of the matter is an abarth is an overpriced plastic toybox with some sporty decals. What matters is under the bonnet and a 1.9 remap with a faster output is alot nicer than an overpriced mechanical mess.
JamiePlaysFifa ''diagnostic machine clocked it at running 194bhp'' oh god. What diagnostic machine can tell you the power your car is producing? enlighten me.
@StormDragon ツ I got the exact same engine (1.9 JTDm) and that engine is relatively reliable. Personally, I had to change fuel pump (at 120k km), nothing more yet. In general, one can say this engine is quite good (better average). BUT! Power of this engine is really crazy for that kind of small car. After remap engine can be boosted to +- 190 HP and that is just enormous (0-100km/h in less than 6 sec)
"Engineering Ford can't do"? I guess you didn't hear about the 2.5 litre 300bhp RS that went on sale early this year? Probably not. Fiats are cheaper because: they are known to be unreliable.
As with all so called " motoring journalists” this one shows his pure ignorance many times in this video. Complaining about the dashboard materials is a favourite of plonkers like him. It’s a hot version of a low priced small hatchback and this buffoon would prefer a Lexus quality dash . And then all Fiats are like French cars without any qualification at all. Does he even care ? This is bloke should be selling iphone cases …. not talking with fake authority about one of the great european carmakers.
the base abarth is painfully slow, 155 hp is simply not enough for these big and heavy cars. It is not a hot hatch, the only car that can make use of such small engine and poor power is the 500 abarth and that one (the 160 hp) is not fast, it just feels fast. They should stop calling these hot hatches, they're not hot, for that, you need at least 2.0 turbo and 200 hp minimum
relax your little dickus Mr. Hamilton who need a v8 engine to just go to starbucks and get a takeaway.. 155hp is just enough for most of the people, no one is racing on fucking roads, if you want that go to the track and get humiliated by AMGs.
I now own this exact test car 😂
I drove RO08VAK yesterday and I can safely say that it is still a fun little car! 👍🏼
Never understood why people don't like the steering on the fiat punto, I love the light steering! Doesn't feel unresponsive at all
Same
I owned 4 punto:each one had problems with steering!suddenly it would remain completely blocked!
@@gypzino lol not with my 3 puntos
Just bought myself a 2009 Abarth Grande Punto 155BHP in red loaded with every extra there is ;)
Michael Noble I have a 1.9 fiat punto, modded, currently at 220bhp
How's she running for you? I got teh tjet model and love it to bits, recently had it remapped too, it's a pokey beast at 168bhp
what is that plonk talking about. Fiat has always been about cars fun to drive for pocket money.
exactly. Fiat Coupe 20VT owner talking :)
I know. Take mine for example. $1500 (second hand) and even on a bad day, I can climb into mine and go for a barrel round the block and still emerge smiling a little bit.
i bet a fat women with a large fanny would be able to satisfy u
PUNTO POWER!!!!
ABARTH FOREVER!!
La migliore utilitaria degli ultimi 10anni equilibrata spaziosa bella esteticamente con una gamma motori veramente ottima
I LOVE FIAT ABARTH
I bought one of that yesterday.. It's fantastic, faster than my mind, and it looks like a rally car
You can say what you want, but fiat cars are one of the best in the world!!!
I've got a fiat grande punto basic and i'd love one of these!
Hows the punto 9 years on?
King of cars Fiat punto
Cant wait to get one of these!!!
I love my punto so much
They’re just something about these. You know they’re not well built. You know they’re probably going to be unreliable. But it’s just gorgeous and none of that really matters.
I also have a basic one (without the seal leak b.t.w.)... 1.2 petrol and it drives like a dream: wouldn't mind the extra horse power though. I don't understand their complaint about the steering wheel being too light... it is especially with the 'city' mode enabled at low speed to facilitate maneuvers... but it stabilizes as speed picks up and it's also rather precise. This is my 1st Fiat and I'm delighted with it!
I have 2012 1.2 69hp
Stock, it did not have a front anty roll bar, so it did actually oversteer on the limit.
I added the anty roll bar, and it made handling more neutral, it still does oversteer.
@1ns4ne1d10t the ford fiesta was 5 years ago, the new fiesta st has 180bhp
l o v e A B A R T H!!!!!!!!!!!
It comes with big brakes and buckets from standard, the eseseseses wheels look amazing! If it had more power.. say 220bhp, this would go down in hot hatch history!
Joe Spencer no point giving it that much horsepower, because unless your on a track it can't be used!
My mate had a TD04 turbo fitted to his and different injectors and made 250 👀👀👀
TJET this is wonderfull
what is the reggae called, starting at 2:23 ? THX
@sergionuno I think his point was that the one he was test driving was leaking around the door seals...
He's wrong, all fiats have that passion. All of them..
Abarth > All
I have also one! I Love it! :-)
Grande punto ! Just the look...
@kylio85 The same plastic can have different things done with it and the overall effect can be totally different. I think you'd have to agree that the inside of the 500 looks far nicer than the inside of the punto. I'd still rather have the punto though :-)
Extreeme conditions show differences between good design and good car. Honestly I'd like to see next step in hot hatches - 250+whp 4x4
@kylio85 No they're not. The dash on the 500 is completely different to the Grande Punto
@Cogitotal
Yes of course they look different as an overall line & design, but the materials r absolutely the same
I can guarantee u
I swear the guy in the hoodie is from balls of steel.
@sammsamuels
i dont know so much anymore the fiat group has some pretty amazing technology now.
Iv got an alfa mito and its got 3 stage engine managment switch,assisted hill start,tcs,blue and me,pillarless doors,and a really advanced engine, what citroen hatchback has those sort of options,all they have got is air suspension and digital techometer displays which looks cheap and nasty. (although the ds3 might change things interior wise)
What can we expect from a reviewer that seems to pronounce Abarth like 'aRbarth' ???...
@quarryMTB I belive you, that guys make things up very often.
the 2005-present Fiat Grande Punto is assembled in
Melfi, Italy
Mirafiori, Italy
Betim , Brazil
Ranjangaon India
Is actually looks like top gear without Jeremy Clarkson James May and Richard Hammond
Grande Punto 4 ever
what's the intro rock song?
@number9ninja
Well thanx m8.
Actually neither of them, as much as I like FIATs...
But Iif I had to choose, The 500 for sure...it's a loot prettier & for its dimensions, u get enough room for 4 adults. The Grande Punto is too long & not that spacious; plus I'm not really keen on the style :( (especially the front end) but gotta say it handels very nicely.
i've got this fiat grande punto with a A/M + / - shifts , i like the car so much but changing the gears while driving is so tough and aggressive as if i'm driving a manual transmition car without a clutch
do any one have this model agree with me??
i just need your kind reply because i think i have a problem with my car
Hi there,any comment on the dual logic transmission on 1.4 engine? Anyone?
Yes. It is a piece of utter shit. My family owns one since 2009. With the 1.4. Aaand... It broke 4 times. FOUR!!! And it is slow, and it wont downshift when going up a hill untill the engine is at 1000rpm or lower. What I have in mind to do is to swap it to a manual and get that DualStupid thing out the way... For the rest... It's a great litle car.
i will own one in 2 months depending to the kit arrival...the essesse!i am one happy 18 years old bastard...!
People notice mediterranean cars like Seat Cupra/FR's and Fiat Abarth/Sportings and go "thats a nice car" No one ever notices ST's or VXR's but all the road knobs inside them believe they are standing out from the crowd when they aren't. When an ST/VXR is driven fast everyone thinks "What a twat/cock" yet when a Cupra/Abarth is driven fast nobody seems to care. We can get away with it because we don't have a known knob image.
YES U R...
My Punto diesel has 170 hp 👍
esseesse model 1.4 turbo has 180+ bhp, beat a shitty diesel any day
Chill fuck head.
Heavy as fuck also, not as good suspension or steering or braking neither, you’d never keep up with an abarth
@@madadz69 I know one 1.9 that had full Abarth suspension and it would shit on most of the Abarths
@@miralemnermina142 i know one abarth that had 440hp it would butt fuck all yall any day
this cars now for sale on auto trader
what do you think,citroen c3 or fiat grande punto?
Fiat grande punto
Tenho um amarelo tjet 2010 no brasil
FIAT THE BEST FOR EVER
12 year
@2007PHATE As in saying Fiat has poor build quality, that was his point.
My fathers 18 year old FIAT is waterproof, and so is mine. So i dont understand his point about the leeking
@smolinski93 dude Bugatti is french =) only in 1991 i guess it stayed for a while in italian control or something now is owned by Volkswagen
fiat cars are best cars
FIAT-Fix It Again Tomorrow
sorry for you,but here in belgium a friend has buy the renault clio last model sport,and lost mirors and his daschboard was goind up and down,if i was you i do my complaint in the fiatdealer,my fiat on this moment has 20.0000km on the clock,no problems
Fiat the best for ever
I'm don't think a test of a high performance car in the rain is worth much
fiat the best
@k4milo900 noo im not...
FIAT THE BEST IN THE WORLD .
@2007PHATE
That's true, but...
Well the 500's dashboard is coloured that's why it immediately strikes you as far more good looking...
Anyway @ 13 & 1/2 thousand pounds u cannot expect the plastics of a Bentley, can u??
@Taylor40667 Wow Ford are so behind with the times, you mean to tell me they have only just caught on to supermini's being 180+bhp? Renault were getting 182 over half a decade ago with the 2.0 Clio Cup and Fiat were getting 180bhp out of a 1.4T 4 years ago. I can't believe Ford have taken over 4 years to wake up and smell the coffee with the new Fiesta ST. When everyone else is putting out 180bhp on a 1.4 Ford are still putting out 30 horses less on an engine double the size! Ha ha
@odin52 well i went in fiat car shop and i bought it ...60 month credit...i was driving like about three months and allready had to go on repair... i love this car and its style and everything but has disappointed me...
Fiat the best.!!!!!!!!!!!
compare it to 1960's Fiat 850 2000 OT Abarth and see that today Abarth is only a sign!
oh god, its the new top gear :(
@kylio85 Expensive LOOKING. Not feeling. But whatever, I don't expect this car to be a luxury car anyways.
Just come back after a month, haha, 7 poor comments? I should have stayed clear from all the fiat enthusiasts and not posted. I don't need to see one I've been in many! It is still a nice car though this is why I was checking this out, however, things like the overall build quality and the fact that my mates gearbox went just makes me a bit cautious.
yes you are... =/
Yeah you are luckyish, you can say your a lucky bastard when you have an BMW M6 like me.
@trystanb It wouldn't be a true italian car if things didn't go wrong with it...its all part of the charm! It's why i drive alfa's :-) lol
I've owned lots of small Fiats, from 127 Sports to Punto Abarths..........a shit road test from someone who clearly doesn't get the idea of feisty little road hogs with a quirkiness that we love.......Yes FIAT are marmite, but that's what makes them great little cars
@MartinArgg ....
why cant i thumb up your comment, a hundred times more??!!!
:)
I have purchased a Fiat Grande Sporting Punto 1.9 Turbo Diesel and remapped it, diagnostic machine clocked it at running 194bhp and I hit a 0-60 in just under 6.2 seconds, much better option than buying a sporty overpriced abarth + nothing beats the face of the lads in their BMW 330i when i'm matching what there V6 has to offer. Their faces drop even more when I do them off the lights and they realise im 17 with the fastest first car since the young kardashian girl kylie borought a 5.0L Mercedes Monster.
That's like stating an MG is superior to a Rover, the fact of the matter is an abarth is an overpriced plastic toybox with some sporty decals. What matters is under the bonnet and a 1.9 remap with a faster output is alot nicer than an overpriced mechanical mess.
JamiePlaysFifa ''diagnostic machine clocked it at running 194bhp'' oh god. What diagnostic machine can tell you the power your car is producing? enlighten me.
Josh Winn a rolling road would tell you
Exactly my point, not a diagnostic machine.
@StormDragon ツ I got the exact same engine (1.9 JTDm) and that engine is relatively reliable. Personally, I had to change fuel pump (at 120k km), nothing more yet. In general, one can say this engine is quite good (better average).
BUT! Power of this engine is really crazy for that kind of small car. After remap engine can be boosted to +- 190 HP and that is just enormous (0-100km/h in less than 6 sec)
lol nice t-shit :))
abaff....oooohh!! si dice abarth pirlone
@yugogti ure wrong
Rather them be owned by an Italian Company than any other
"Engineering Ford can't do"? I guess you didn't hear about the 2.5 litre 300bhp RS that went on sale early this year? Probably not. Fiats are cheaper because: they are known to be unreliable.
500 Abarth looks and goes so much better :)
I HAD THIS CAR FOR SEVEN MONTHS AND AFTER THAT I HAD DISCOVERD AN FABRIC ERROR... FUCK THIS CAR I AM NOT BUYING EVER AGAIN FIAT!!!!
Si e dimenticato di dire la lamborghini
@kylio85 Its a tv show. Its all scripted, he probably has no say in it.
haha yeah and Ferrari, Maserati, Lancia and Alfa Romeo are all owned by Fiat :D
fiat lost it ,they need 2000 cc =250 hp, good int,good abarth gearbox,and italian flag.
Jesus ... its not a fiat punto abarth ... its abarth punto
@TheKIngBP Because you dont know how to drive it
@TheKIngBP you dispointing us,just like the 4 idiots of top gear,the astra lovers or fiesta or focus,cars for ladies,for me always fiat
As with all so called " motoring journalists” this one shows his pure ignorance many times in this video. Complaining about the dashboard materials is a favourite of plonkers like him.
It’s a hot version of a low priced small hatchback and this buffoon would prefer a Lexus quality dash . And then all Fiats are like French cars without any qualification at all. Does he even care ?
This is bloke should be selling iphone cases …. not talking with fake authority about one of the great european carmakers.
@kylio85 Thats why I dont like fifth gear. they always changes opinions....
why don't you comment your luxurious but crapy british cars?
damn just close the window a bit better next time..omfg
What the f*** is this guy on about? Hmmm maybe why I pre-fare TopGear over 5th gear, ohh wait a mo, I don't watch 5th gear....
I. HATE. 5TH. GEAR!
I LOVE MY FIAT.
ford SUCKS¡¡¡
Why is this fcuking show always copying everything Top Gear does and says?
5th gear is shite
were known to be unreliable.
fiat aren't really reliably.
the base abarth is painfully slow, 155 hp is simply not enough for these big and heavy cars. It is not a hot hatch, the only car that can make use of such small engine and poor power is the 500 abarth and that one (the 160 hp) is not fast, it just feels fast. They should stop calling these hot hatches, they're not hot, for that, you need at least 2.0 turbo and 200 hp minimum
relax your little dickus Mr. Hamilton who need a v8 engine to just go to starbucks and get a takeaway..
155hp is just enough for most of the people, no one is racing on fucking roads, if you want that go to the track and get humiliated by AMGs.
mikecustoms lol ever been in one? Beats a golf vr6 anyday and wil go mad in corners