An Almost Perfect, Inexpensive Jet - NEW FMS F-16 64mm

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  • čas přidán 17. 07. 2024
  • Most people think 64mm jets are dinky and boring. This is anything but, especially set up the way ours is. Make it wild: move that battery back and use full throws. Make it more scale-like - move the battery further forward and be less aggressive on the sticks. Either way, have fun - because this jet is a ton of fun.
    Use the code FMS2NR and save 5% on the F-16 via bit.ly/FMSF-16_64mm
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    0:00 Introduction
    1:49 Landing Gear
    4:42 Make Sure You Glue the VStab Well
    5:40 Flight Time
    6:11 Wheeled Agility
    9:22 No Wheels Agility
    13:40 Extreme Agility
    15:25 Fit & Finish
    16:29 Avionics & Lighting
    17:15 Overall Score
    18:19 Final Thoughts
    20:35 Nosewheel Mixing & Quick Setup Info
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Komentáře • 104

  • @flyandplayAUSTRALIA
    @flyandplayAUSTRALIA Před měsícem +6

    Love how you went crazy full bore after you removed the gear! Those front flips made the jet almost look like a 3D plane! The trees definitely add to the excitement. Was on the edge of my seat watching those manoeuvres. Sick video Jon! And kudos to wifey filming and keeping up with the jet with you flying crazy.

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Před měsícem +3

      Haha, thanks man! Happy to hear you're enjoying what we do.

  • @BrianPhillipsRC
    @BrianPhillipsRC Před měsícem +3

    @ 18:18 - NICE CATCH!!!! Love this plane, and FMS did a nice job!

  • @HarryBunnGRVOTV
    @HarryBunnGRVOTV Před 16 dny +1

    I bought this on your recommendation, no gyro, no wheels, rear c of g, maxed out elevator & omg! I was expecting good but it’s such great fun, even the sound is fantastic. Low high alpha across the strip and as i go past myself turn away and nail the throttle & it howls beautifully. Love it. It hand launches hands free so ditch those wheels.

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Před 16 dny

      Happy to hear that! It definitely benefits from a gyro the further back you move the CG - but if you're enjoying it without one, keep at it!

  • @ModelAV8RChannel
    @ModelAV8RChannel Před měsícem +6

    Fun Jet, and I KNEW you would set it up to high alpha like a big dog! Nice!

  • @airhammer6203
    @airhammer6203 Před měsícem +4

    Hilariously fun little F-16!!
    Good stuff FMS
    Great flying Jon.
    I hope FMS gives the 64mm F-15 rudder control.

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Před měsícem +1

      That would be fantastic if they did!

  • @AL-RCjunkie
    @AL-RCjunkie Před měsícem +2

    I love watching reviewers have fun while running these rc planes through their paces. Thanks, Jon and Jon's wife for some fun flight footage 👍

  • @timriecken5453
    @timriecken5453 Před 8 dny +1

    I really know nothing about rc planes but I've become obsessed. I really want to get in to it. I've looked at a bunch of little beginner planes to get and they are on my christmas list 😊 I'm a long way off from flying any EDF jets but that's what I'm striving for. I want to be able to so exactly what u just did with this awesome F16 ❤ Thanks for the vid!

  • @timriecken5453
    @timriecken5453 Před 8 dny +1

    I just gotta say after my last comment.... bro.. I just strive to be a pilot like u! #amazing

  • @RaGeRC
    @RaGeRC Před měsícem +3

    Didn't think I'd be buying another 64mm 4s jet but I think Im gonna have to get this one. It looks pretty dang cool!

  • @mithrandir1313
    @mithrandir1313 Před měsícem +2

    good quality review!! thanks!! Well Done!

  • @ficosk8
    @ficosk8 Před měsícem +3

    Wow I was waiting for this since a friend has the small Freewing and she flies great, looking forward for this video :))

  • @BrianPhillipsRC
    @BrianPhillipsRC Před měsícem +1

    @ 3:03 - AWESOME!!!

  • @BrianTurner-ub2tu
    @BrianTurner-ub2tu Před měsícem +1

    Heck yea! looking forward to getting my first Scaleish Jet!

  • @erikshute7153
    @erikshute7153 Před měsícem +2

    Great review Jon! You are my go to these days for reviews keep up the great content!

  • @biggnasty989
    @biggnasty989 Před měsícem +3

    I dove headfirst into this hobby because of you, starting with the F-35, setting it up and rewiring it just like you did. Sure, I crashed when I attempted some wild maneuvers, but I've rebuilt the jet, and now I can't get enough of flying. What isn't often mentioned is the challenge of using OpenTX (TX16s) compared to Spektrum. I've toughened up by teaching myself, and it's been intense. I thoroughly enjoy mixing, linking throttle gains and gear. It's tough to match what you do. But after nearly a month in this hobby, I feel like I'm hooked for life. I was considering the Freewing F-16 to complement my F-35, but the lighting on this one might just tip the scales. However, I'm not a fan of the vertical stabilizer's construction.

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Před měsícem +1

      You should totally hop on Discord with us, man! bit.ly/TBRCDiscord - we'd love to see vids of you pushing yourself. That said, the vstab on this jet isn't ideal, but most jets at this size require you to glue in the stabilizer. Not a fan of it, but physical realities of scale model construction will always take precedence over what we personally prefer.

    • @biggnasty989
      @biggnasty989 Před měsícem +1

      @@TwoBrosRC Joined!

    • @tonyyimbo
      @tonyyimbo Před měsícem

      Same here , it was the slow shorts of high alphas over water

    • @biggnasty989
      @biggnasty989 Před měsícem

      @@tonyyimbo This guy could sell an ice cube to an Eskimo. I was on the fence for over a decade, and took the leap watching his F35 videos.

  • @stewjade
    @stewjade Před 6 dny +1

    Oh so close to ordering one but got way too many planes already. Greatest review out there by far. Love your work and top marks to your camera lady. Stew J.

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Před 6 dny +1

      Good thing it's small and can be disassembled into storage pretty easily!

  • @jeremyduff9313
    @jeremyduff9313 Před měsícem +1

    Awesome flying! I have the 70 eflite and its probably my favorite jet. I definitely can't make it do what you did with the 64.

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Před měsícem

      Sure you can! It's just practice. 👀

  • @edwardranno7119
    @edwardranno7119 Před měsícem +1

    Cool looking jet!😊

  • @lewiemotorsports3616
    @lewiemotorsports3616 Před měsícem +1

    You know it's a good jet when Jon starts yelling 😅 good stuff man

  • @larrycung9131
    @larrycung9131 Před měsícem +2

    I really wish I had more RC flying experience to fly this. I'm still learning with my Ranger.

  • @brianturner4215
    @brianturner4215 Před měsícem +2

    Ordered one!

  • @ficosk8
    @ficosk8 Před 22 dny +1

    Super video and review! I already ordered mine last week also in this sheme to be more colorfull. I also don´t like that plain white foam. It looks too cheap, so I was about to get the gray one. But the eagle on the bottom looks nice. Super cool watching the differences between with and w/o landing gear. As we have grass I´ll go without. It will be my F-16 training model so I think I´ll get the ventral fins off also. Is that OK? I would have flown without gyro but I´ll better put one reflex V3 I have sitting for weeks better. Or an AR631 that I would need to configure and I haven´t done that yet. Super and thanks!!

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Před 22 dny +1

      We landed it several times with gear removed, definitely had no issues with the ventral fins - just don't slam it into the ground and it should be totally OK! The AR631 is a better choice. Hop on Discord with us via bit.ly/TBRCDiscord and ask for help with setting it up in #tech-and-setup!

  • @PropplaneRC
    @PropplaneRC Před měsícem +2

    I need one !

  • @kianwong4625
    @kianwong4625 Před měsícem

    Wow John. Thats an amazing jet for the price. Incredibly agile, of course piloted by you. Doe this run the new v3 reflex gyro, as i am not that familiar with forward programming the AR630.. cheers

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Před měsícem +1

      Ours didn't come with Reflex. Our community can help you learn how to program a receiver if you'd like to join our Discord server! bit.ly/TBRCDiscord

    • @kianwong4625
      @kianwong4625 Před měsícem +1

      @@TwoBrosRC thanks ill take a look -great review -I’m very tempted to buy.

  • @mattcook5302
    @mattcook5302 Před měsícem +1

    Crazy!

  • @Munchymonke
    @Munchymonke Před měsícem +4

    Wow

  • @Fridolin23
    @Fridolin23 Před 28 dny

    Great video of a lovely little jet! Thanks for the brilliant review! I'm wondering about how long the flight time with a standard 4s 2200mAh pack would be. If I understood it correctly you used a 2400mAh HV pack and got up to 5:41 minutes out of it, which is incredible! I'm tempted to get a gray one 😅
    Unfortunately HV packs are quite tricky to get over here.
    Cheers Jannick

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Před 28 dny +1

      Hey man! You'd probably get close to four minutes.

    • @Fridolin23
      @Fridolin23 Před 28 dny

      Sounds good to me! Thanks a lot Jon

  • @rodeopilot7495
    @rodeopilot7495 Před 29 dny

    Great review, one question: how do you get your pack voltage on the main screen of the ix-20?

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Před 29 dny

      It's easier to ask on Discord via bit.ly/TBRCDiscord - pop that question in the #tech-and-setup channel!

  • @CentralRC24
    @CentralRC24 Před měsícem

    You should review the free wing L-15/J-10 64mm 6s, I own one and it is my favorite model near 1:1 twr and can do a lot of stunts it is a great jet, I would love to see a review over it from you.

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Před měsícem

      When we've got money to spend on it, sure, that'll be something to consider!

  • @windscreenrepairmanrich5528

    Hi John! Two questions. First is this as easy as rafale 64mm to high alpha? Also for longer weedy grass is there more to dig in/damage on belly landings?

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Před měsícem

      Yes, and the nose cone and wingtip rails will be the most likely damage scenarios if you're trying to land with wheels on grass.

  • @kianwong4625
    @kianwong4625 Před 15 dny

    I have been flying the arrows 50mm bae hawk jet, and practicing jets on the simulator. Im torn between the fms 70mm viper/ fms 64mm f-16 and the fms 80mm BAE hawk? Any thoughts for best fun and ease of flight? Cheers John.

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Před 15 dny

      The FMS Viper 70 is a solid choice for a trainer jet - not a beginner jet. It'll teach you how to fly: czcams.com/video/8PzK0_7x_lQ/video.html

    • @kianwong4625
      @kianwong4625 Před 15 dny +1

      @@TwoBrosRC thanks john - your videos are so much fun to view.

  • @Henrusin
    @Henrusin Před 7 dny

    Is it possible to install the reflex v2 or reflex v3 gyro in this one? I mean is there already this plane available in the v2 software or the v3 app? Thank u!

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Před 7 dny

      It's possible, but we don't use Reflex - can't help ya there.

  • @BrianTurner-ub2tu
    @BrianTurner-ub2tu Před měsícem

    Do you think you can fit the 64mm Free 6s setup in this F-16? W/ a 1800 6s battery.

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Před měsícem +1

      No idea, but probably. Though that would come at the consequence of nose heaviness and added wing loading. Not really our style, but most likely something you could do.

  • @nirlachman007
    @nirlachman007 Před 15 dny +1

    Great video Jon!! Where is your CG at?

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Před 15 dny +1

      Isn't it demoed in the vid? It should be!

    • @nirlachman007
      @nirlachman007 Před 15 dny

      @@TwoBrosRC yup, it is :) I mean mm wise but never mind I’ll can get to it from the video 😉

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Před 13 dny

      Sorry yeah, we generally don't use a ruler for that!

  • @ShockeWulf190
    @ShockeWulf190 Před měsícem +2

    HAHA YESS I NEED IT

  • @kyurise6685
    @kyurise6685 Před měsícem

    Hello there! Love the video. May i know what is the materials of the plane used? Is it plastic or styrofoam or different kind of foam?

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Před měsícem

      It's EPO foam.

    • @kyurise6685
      @kyurise6685 Před měsícem

      @@TwoBrosRC the whole chasis including the fuselage and wings? Alright thanks !

  • @matthewmorrissey2568
    @matthewmorrissey2568 Před měsícem

    Would you say this is pretty similar to the fms F16 70mm for half the price? Which one would you recommend?

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Před měsícem

      It's basically the same jet sans retractable gear and 4s compatibility.

  • @papapsadventures6119
    @papapsadventures6119 Před měsícem +2

    Grass landings are out of the question then?

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Před měsícem +1

      With wheels, probably, unless it's very manicured grass. Did you miss the grass belly landing?

  • @AdamDemas
    @AdamDemas Před 26 dny

    @17:22 Would you really give the landing gear a 4/5? I was thinking you would have put it at a 2/5 the way you showed it in the beginning

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Před 26 dny

      Gotta go by the metrics, not personal feelings about how loud something is. The Landing Gear chapter explains why it got the score it did.

  • @Estuardomendez13
    @Estuardomendez13 Před měsícem

    i wonder if the 70mm 6s will fly the same if i take the retracts off XD

  • @DownNDirtyRc
    @DownNDirtyRc Před měsícem

    I think I'm going to get one and toss my freewing 6s setup in it.

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Před měsícem

      Be wary of 6 cell setups on jets designed for 4 cell weight - it won't be as forgiving in stalls, and it'll get into stalls at higher airspeeds than a 4 cell setup will. You'll certainly get more thrust, but it comes at the cost of aerodynamic performance.

  • @cruzzer1500
    @cruzzer1500 Před měsícem

    What wheels do you suggest for this to be perfect ?

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Před měsícem

      The E-flite Viper 70mm wheels mentioned in the vid will be a drop-in replacement: alnk.to/6IF4kna

  • @andybest2409
    @andybest2409 Před měsícem

    What receiver are you using?

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Před měsícem

      It's under "Equipment used" in the description!

  • @jeremyduff9313
    @jeremyduff9313 Před měsícem +1

    How many years have you been flying?

  • @user-ln6hf2zr5b
    @user-ln6hf2zr5b Před měsícem

    Try to find a 64mm with thrust vectoring.

  • @modelaircraft6576
    @modelaircraft6576 Před 12 dny

    I wish it had full size elevators

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Před 12 dny

      Full flying stabilators would be quite nice.

  • @Kbeezzy23
    @Kbeezzy23 Před měsícem +1

    The codes not working!! Ahhhh

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Před měsícem +2

      Yeah, that's on us. Jon forgot that the 5% off code only works after a new model has been out for a bit. FMS changed the way the codes worked a couple of times and threw us for a loop.
      Sorry about that!

  • @kennyjohnson3837
    @kennyjohnson3837 Před měsícem +1

    Yes, the landing noise in electric planes is almost unbearable

  • @cbyrd4423
    @cbyrd4423 Před měsícem

    The discount code does not work.

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Před měsícem +1

      Yeah we totally forgot that it doesn't work for new releases. It will eventually work. Sorry, our bad on that one. 😢

  • @rungy8214
    @rungy8214 Před měsícem

    I don't mind unpainted foam. Paint is HEAVY...and every gram matters with RC Jets. Would you cut your battery size in half for white paint? I would NOT.

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Před měsícem

      Paint isn't so heavy that a battery reduction would be needed.

    • @rungy8214
      @rungy8214 Před 8 dny

      @@TwoBrosRC ok so then give this plane a 10 out of 5 for agility, because you gave 5 to another plane that is not in the neighborhood of this remarkable jet! John, seriously...you have the BEST RC reviews/footage ! Subscribed and lovin' ALL of it!

  • @SMModels1200
    @SMModels1200 Před měsícem

    Why are you flying with a gyro, good airplanes and experts don't need a gyro 😂

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Před měsícem +2

      Not sure if serious.

    • @biggnasty989
      @biggnasty989 Před měsícem

      A gyro will have someone like me who's been in the hobby for less than a month do things that you would maybe end up crashing doing with the aft CG. I don't have a reputation to maintain here, so I'm going to tell it like it is. Nobody cares if Mr Old and Crusty (YOU) flies with or without a gyro. You asked for the smoke bro, I mean Old and Crusty.

    • @SMModels1200
      @SMModels1200 Před měsícem

      Ok, sure I understand. I know why the gyro manufacturers offer this. The point is that any test of a model with a gyro is strongly influenced by the actual gyro and is not completely objective. What the model itself really is. The test tells mainly about the quality and settings of the gyro.

    • @windscreenrepairmanrich5528
      @windscreenrepairmanrich5528 Před 29 dny

      Jon I now fly on my own because most of 'The flying clubs here in the uk have at least one old crusty that ruins the fun and gyro technology.

  • @rungy8214
    @rungy8214 Před 8 dny +1

    Re-watching this vid 10 times a day for the past two weeks. In Top Gun 2 Phoenix said it's not the plane it's the pilot. In this vid it is the plane AND the pilot. I have searched all over you-tube and NEVER found more aggressive high speed maneuvering than in this vid. The F22 might turn sharper, but sacrifices all of its energy (not at this speed) I want a follow up that demos Flat Scissors, Rolling Scissors, High Yo Yo, Low Yo Yo, Lag Rolls, Barrel Rolls, Splits, Slice Backs, Pitch Backs, and Descending Spirals as seen here... czcams.com/play/PLnyigzFtHeNr9zTkpxyD0ksFD3CwLa2UE.html

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Před 8 dny +1

      No way you're watching us that much! That's awesome, man. Happy to hear you're enjoying the content!

    • @rungy8214
      @rungy8214 Před 8 dny +1

      @@TwoBrosRC 9:30 to 15:20...Holy F... RC 4Ever? Slow floaty cheezwiz...as are sooo many others....call me a liar! There are no vids on youtube that are even close...like Wes F16 is not even close. Seriously SEARCH...you will not find. 999 out of 1000 others..."Hey, watch me fly in a straight line a billion feet in the air! Tee hee hee!"

    • @rungy8214
      @rungy8214 Před 7 dny +1

      @@TwoBrosRC you're turn rates are matched up and slightly faster than Markus Rummer AKA "Dr. Low" czcams.com/video/TU0WmnGFK-s/video.html