What if Carmelo Anthony went to the Pistons in 2003? | The Jump
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- čas přidán 17. 08. 2021
- The Jump’s Malika Andrews, Kendrick Perkins and Richard Jefferson ask what if Carmelo Anthony would’ve been drafted second overall in the 2003 NBA Draft instead of Darko Milicic.
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A rookie Melo being a part of that "Going to work" Pistons chemistry and culture would have definitely altered his mindset for the rest of his career.
“Me and Malika” I dream sometimes too perk
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The pistons are literally known for 3 things:
1. Bad boys
2. 2004
3. Selecting Darko
and Grant Hill...
@@kalmkorn Grant Hill was great on Home Improvement
Ron arrest ?
silly. bulls are known for 2 things. jordan and pippen?
@@andrewdurand3181 what about derrick rose
Malika is absolutely gorgeous 😍😍
Facts 😩😩
“Don’t come over with that sassy attitude towards me and Maliki” -Kendrick Perkins
As a Piston fan, it's been like a Decade since this city and team has been on ESPN so much
right?! excited about my pistons
We shoulda got jalen green tho he’s the rookie of the year and future super star
@@jaydendebro3819 i think you are right about Green but not right about picking him over Cade. Cade could be an elite floor general for many years. Green will possibly chase scoring titles but I don't see him impacting the game far beyond that. Pistons needed to start with the best young leader they could get. Things will fall in place after that.
Richard is so right here. Rasheed was not on the team yet.
RJ is 100% correct it's not like adding Melo wouldnt have affected the Pistons other moves
Yea that's an important point, I prefer when people suggest that the kind of culture, mindset, and leadership on those Pistons teams would have altered how he developed as a player particularly on the defensive end, and that may have led to championships down the road. But honestly these what if's are always imagined too favourably, maybe he gets a career ending injury in Detroit on a freak accident? There's no point think about it, we're here now.
@@ShutThePuck worr or Melo an Sheed wuda just been to gangster for that whole roster an everybody wuda just developed a Melo mentality
No he isnt smh Dumars was trying to get Sheed for over 2 years before they got him they wouldve gotten him either way cause Dumars loved Sheeds attitude and knew it was key to a ship smh everyone who thinks getting Melo that they wouldnt have gotten sheed is retarded
So let me get this straight, people think Melo would have been fine as the 2nd overall pick just sitting on the bench with Larry Brown notoriously not playing rookies? People actually think Melo would have been fine sitting on the bench just "learning" after being a huge star all his life up to that point and just winning the National Championship as the star of the team, while his draft classmates Lebron and Wade would be the focal points of their respective teams getting numbers and playing time? Use common sense and what you have seen from Melo throughout his career, try to understand why Chauncey Billups said Melo was often more concerned about scoring and getting his scoring numbers even more than winning.
I agree but at the same time vets ran the league at that time and rookies came in and followed the culture of the Vets not like today. So I think Melo would have gotten shaped to playing a role as a go to bucket guy for the pistons if he was used but you’re right though about Larry brown not playing rookies he was notorious for that but that personality that Chauncey was saying Melo had came from years of having his way with the Nuggets organization before Chauncey got there so yeah he was more concerned with points but it was because the Nuggets had zero identity at the time and Melo knew he was the best thing that ever happened to them.
*I'm a simple man. I see Malika, I like the video.*
@Blake W That's not what my mind keeps telling me
Malika >>>>> Rachel
Spitting
RJ is 100% correct...it's not like adding melo doesn't affect other moves the pistons make lmao
Malika should host her own show in espn. Such beauty
Kendrick Perkins is irritated that Richard Jefferson brings up a common sense argument why this question is so dumb
Carmelo vs Dwade in the 05 conference finals would’ve been crazy
They need to invite Mike Korzemba when doing these segments.
Hahaha that’s funny
Kinda funny how Melo could’ve been the best nugget of all time and now he’s not even the best #15 in nuggets history
Malika is really like that no cap.
The fact that Melo is admitting this makes me feel like he's realized that his career didn't match up to the expectations
Yep he realized the media n fans don’t see you the same no matter how good you are if you’re ringless
@@FrankWhite248 i can accept people not liking his game, fair. but when ppl say he’s not HOF? comical
Malika was like 9 in 2004. Why is Perk including her in his argument? Who knows? Time travel scenarios are endless.
Kids are much more observing and smarter than adults think.
I'm the same age as her. 2003/04 is when we started paying attention lol
I was 7 back then
I hate what if’s technically everything can be a what if
dr j and Pistol Pete 72' yw
Man I cried when we picked Darko
The thing that really got me was a few years later when Dumars said that he would make the same pick even if he could go back and use what he knew after seeing how things played out. To this day, I can't wrap my mind around that.
he would have got 3 rings and probably keep building around him and probably make a couple more finals.
Yup they made 6 straight ECFs, Melo's offense would've put them over the top more times than not
Melo wins a championship, maybe two, maybe even three with Detroit. Pistons lost to a young Lebron after they went to the Finals in '05. A young Melo and a veteran Detroit team beats Lebron in '06. All of a sudden, Melo is a Detroit dude. He is signing long term with this team that he just won multiple titles with and doesn't care about going to play with Lebron and Wade in Miami. At this point, Lebron and Wade are teaming up so that they can beat Melo and the Detroit Pistons who are running an NBA dynasty. As a result, Melo gets into the conversation with Wade AND Lebron as best of a generation.
THANK YOU RJ!
That lips pouting 😍😘😍 - malika
It would have definitely worked for Melo if he bought in but I 100% agree with Melo that you don't know how this plays out because it affects the roster going forward and the team chemistry.
Rj is correct everybody so quick to give melo championships had he gone to the pistons this is a what if game Rasheed was a very important part of that pistons championship do they go get sheed at the all star break if they had melo everyone wants to look at the positive aspect of melo going to the pistons and ignore the negative u can’t do that when you playing the what if game because at the end of the day that’s what it is A WHAT IF and you gotta look at both sides of the coin not just one side
Melo & the Pistons vs Ron Artest & the Pacers in the Palace would've been way more exciting
“Why are you yelling” lmao
Melo to Detroit in '03 would have changed NBA HISTORY. That team would've been a legit dynasty and kept D. Wade from his 'chip in '06. Melo's whole career would be looked at differently.
Melo's career would have looked a lot better had he joined the big 3 in Miami. Him taking over and becoming the 2nd option in the 3rd or 4th season, after Wade started to decline but was still solid playmaker, would have made things alot different imo.
If would be so unfair for the league if Detroit drafted him, he was scoring monster.
Cade Cunningham is an apology for not drafting Carmelo
Melo is a scorer he wasnt the problem coaches try to build a team around him & have him be a playmaker , that's like asking shaq to improve his 3 point shooting point beeing if they just made him an outside shooter & let iverson be the leader Nuggets would have been a treat
When bad times and hard times are suddenly here, notice those that remain, and the ones that disappear.
Rj and perk are great
Ben Wallace said it best. " it wouldn't have worked ". Plain an simple
Why??
The Pistons will make more rings with Melo and Melo will have a better career overall.
if they got melo they never would’ve traded for sheed stop the nonsense
Richard actually brings up an amazing point! Because think about it, they might not have gone after Sheed if Melo fit on the team perfectly. and without Sheed, there is no chip!!
No he doesnt cause Dumars has admitted multiple of times that he was trying to trade for Sheed for over 2 years before they got him cause Dumars loved his attitude smh Melo wouldnt have changed that and when you look at the trade for Sheed they literally got him for basically nothing cause Sheed had a bad image cause his bad "attitude" on and off the court but that's exactly why Dumars wanted him on the roster anyone who thinks Melo wouldve changed Dumars chasing a trade for Sheed obviously doesnt know anything bout the whole reason they got Sheed in the first place smh
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He is my 2nd favorite player of all time after Iverson, he probably would've had that 2004 ring
That’s a disgusting lost my god
@@kvngcjgaming5559 I am a Sixers fan but I wouldn't mind him getting a ring with the Lakers, I don't like the Lakers but you know what i'm saying.
Man imagine if he won with denver with Iverson. 🔥🔥
@@skii7602 I know man and i'm gonna be honest, my first ever team was the Sixers because Iverson is my favorite player of all time, so when he got traded to Denver I ended up being a Nuggets fan since Carmelo was already there and both of them are my top 02 favorite players, then when Iverson left the Nuggets I ended up staying extra years with the Nuggets, but i'm back with the Sixers since 2016 , I don't care what folks say neither LOL 😄
My basketball fandom is simple Iverson + Carmelo = Top 02 favorite players of all time. Sixers = My first ever team, am I a bandwagon? LOL 😄
@@shawnd.dawkins006 lol not at all. I hope melo gets a ring
The Lakers would have won the 2004 Finals.
so Malika finally replaced Rachel Nichols......lmao
Melo would've been a more complete player. He would've bought it on thst Piston culture. Played defense, pass and do whatever he needed to do.
When has Carmelo Anthony ever played defense?
@@mazengwe28 did you ever read my comment?
@@mazengwe28think man 😂😂😂
KP: he bought it up
Me: why is he pocket watching and off subject.
Malika can get it
ESPN should do what Marvel is doing and do a NBA What If series.
.....it Be the only way melo wins a ring so sure y not
Tbh he probably 3 or 4 .. his offense was the missing piece for a dynasty
Wow dang how many times y’all gonna talk about this situation.
No one ever won a ring without playing defence
Never been this early. Hope Melo wins a chip this year
its impossible for him to win it this year as the bucks did it. they won a REAL ring, unlike the L-akers mickey mouse championship
@@ZombieZifiction just cry
Central Division
Melo Pistons
LeBron Cavs
D Wade Bulls
2004-2005 Pistons Back to Back Champion
RJ is one of the most objective person
Then he wouldn’t get much playtime cause Larry Brown hated playing rookies from what I heard
yeah i heard that too
Facts
6 year run Big Perk, 6 years!!
Perk’s mic is trash 😂
They would have still won the title in '04, despite what Ben Wallace thinks, and Melo could have helped them win in '05 and '06 also, and maybe even '07.
I went back and looked and added melo they would 5 pester most likely 💀 this is why 03-04 they still beat lakers 04-05 they beat spurs in game 7 with melo offensive maybe 30 point game 05-06 they beat Miami and beat Dallas to much for Dirk Ben and Rasheed 06-07 they beat cavs and most likely beat spurs again but quicker with melo being even better then before then 07-08 I think they could beat Boston and then go on to beat lakers now 08-09 they beat Orlando face lakers do they win again maybe 09-10 they beat Celtics again face lakers 2010-11 they possibly could beat Miami and face Dallas and win that so Detroit by then probably would have won 5-6 rings from 03-11 after that probably never win again but 12-13 is the year they might upset Miami and get to finals and Lose to spurs idk it’s all possiblr
I think they will not beat the heat lebron wade and bosh, the dynasty might stop on boston 07-08 will be tough match
@@kramtype987 Bron Wade and Bosh didn’t form until the 2011 season
We would've repeated if we didn't lose key players off the 04 team.
Richard Jefferson and Perk should get their own sports show….that would be must see lol 😂
a big what if for sure but it’s almost TOO BIG to say like the CP3/Kobe duo or what if D Rose was never hurt … Hella players shoulda been drafted by a team before after they turn out to be stars (T Wolves and Curry) 😂😂
If melo drafted by Pistons it would be awesome in 2003
He would have ruined that championship year. Remember, he went to the olympics with Larry Brown right after this year and they clashed immediately in that short stint. Imagine the drama if they had to work together for a whole year! It would have been Ug Lee!
Word I was saying the same thing. Everybody sayin how pistons culture would have changed him. OR OR how bout Melo being the superstar he was and his lazy work ethic rubs off on the rest off the Pistons and they never win a chip. Somethings are inevitable also butterfly effect. Him going there wuda altered so many other different moves
Call me crazy but what if T’challa was star lord in marvel..I would love to see that
Where is rachel??
I grew up in Michigan and Detroit Pistons were top of league for multiple seasons. If they got Melo they would of won back to back no way to say no. They won against the Lakers with Kobe Bryant and squa nd they the reason they broke up in my opinion. Kobe Bryant told squa he too fat lose weight and that was why he felt they lost to Pistons and let me clear this up we won game one lost game 3 and won 3 in row so we won series 4-1 . We killed a prime Kobe Bryant and squa without Melo....but the funniest part of this is Richard Jefferson still salted about Taushon Prince chase him down and blocked him and if he didn't we would of lost in Eastern conference finals to the nets ... lmfao 😂😂😂 salty Richard Jefferson don't want to talk about this subject made my day
For me the piston missed the greatest opportunity of drafting 3 great player from carmelo Anthony , Chris Bosh and dwayne wade... i include d wade because he still available on that time what i mean if you draft a player you should draft whats the best available player ... if i was the GM i am thinking about the future of my franchise as well. You could not argue about it in either way because the pistons won the 2004 championship but the future of Detroit piston was not so good interms of drafting darko on the 2nd pick
Melo would've sat the bench!
Larry Brown does NOT PLAY ROOKIES who dont play DEFENSE. Tashawn Prince played DEFENSE which is why he played.
Yes melo could have been that guy.. But forget all dat malaika andrews is so beautiful man smh.. To beautiful
Perk just outrageously disrespected Sheed.What a clown.
He would’ve went down as a better player then kd believe it or not
Tayshawn Prince or Carmelo Anthony?
Dang
I was gazing into Malika's beautiful eyes and forgot what was being discussed.
He would had won a ring
yes it is possible if they drafted Melo, the Pistons maybe couldnt get Rasheed Wallace, it is totally different scenario
He didn't go move on media
Pistons should've drafted Chris Bosh or DWade
I think we know who ESPN is going to replace Kellerman with if he leaves First Take ...
Malika?
And are there rumors of max leaving first take?
@@WinedandDined27 yes
They wouldn’t have played as a team and Detroit wouldn’t have won the 04 championship.
I don’t blame the pistons for darko that much anymore, they were banking on him being the next Dirk Nowitzki, and it just didn’t happen.
He’d have 2 rings at least
Sorry, but people forget rookies need playtime to progress & if I'm not wrong, pistons coach preferred veterans anyways. Melo probably wouldn't have reached his potential. Maybe he wins 2 rings, but he won't be the fmvp there
Why these ‘if’ topics 🤷♂️🤷♂️
Like Shaq said, if doesn’t excits !!
If the Pistons got Carmelo, the Lakers or Spurs would have had another title. Pistons wouldn't have been defensive minded.
Rashid Wallace is what put the Pistons over anyways. Rashid would have been traded somewhere else.
What’s up with Rachel? 🤔
Larry Brown hated playing rookies, Melo’s always been about his stats and would’ve pouted and forced a trade. Common sense is officially dead
People are dumb Larry Brown wouldn’t have played Melo that much being a young ball hog with no defense
Perk acts like Larry Brown plays rookies.
No more Rachel?🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Its gonna be a sad day for me when Malika Andrews marries somebody, heart bout to be broken. She too bad!
Thank you Richard , they might would have included Melo in the trade for Sheed!!
Kendrick Perkins really just piggy back off what Stephen A says mostly
Carmelo Anthony = No Rashid Wallace, which also means no championship and 5 consecutive Eastern Conference Finals appearences.
The question should be if Larry Brown would have coached Carmelo Anthony in Detroit better than how George Carl coached him in Denver?
I mean Larry Brown hated rookies so it would have been up in the air
I could’ve sworn the Pistons was tryna get Rasheed since 2002 so they definitely would’ve still tried to get him
Malice n the palice
Kendrick you got destroyed shut up, Richard spit facts
tomorrow on the jump: what if the nazis won ww2?
Larry Brown would be in jail for murdering his career
All pro Joe Dumars claimed Tayshawn Prince was the reason he didn't take Melo.
I have no idea how Detroit didn't pick Carmelo thats the worse pick/ mistake ever made in the draft..